Fit & Proper test opens Pandora’s Box

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I hear the SFA had asked for clarification on Craig Whyte’s alleged disqualification as a director, without getting confirmation one way or another, since the issue was initially brought to their attention by the landmark BBC documentary, Rangers: The Inside Story.  Rangers disclosure to the Plus Exchange (where the club’s shares are traded) on Wednesday that this specific BBC allegation was correct, was the information the SFA needed before they were in a position to act and apply a Fit and Proper Person (FPP) test to Whyte.

Dramatic though it sounds, failing a FPP test, in itself, is only likely to cause superficial damage to a club or its owner.  An owner would need to resign as a director but he could allow the other directors to continue running the business, or he could appoint a proxy to take control of the business, which is often the way controllers run football clubs anyway.

What is of more interest, however, are matters likely to be disclosed as part of the SFA investigation.  The Association would require Mr Whyte to explain what he did to be barred from holding a directorship for seven years, something the BBC lawyers would be able to question Whyte on in the witness box, should he actually sue, instead of repeatedly threatening to do so.

Of most interest to the SFA will be Rangers financial submission for their Uefa licence, which enabled the club to be nominated as Scotland’s participants in this season’s Champions League.  A condition of participation in Uefa competitions is that no debts to tax authorities due on 31 December the preceding year remains unpaid on 31 March.

In September HM Revenue and Customs gained permission from the court to freeze £2.3m of Rangers money in connection with an unpaid tax bill.  The principle element of this bill has not been disputed by Rangers.  The SFA will now be keen to establish if any part of this bill was in connection to taxes due in prior to 31 December 2010.  If it was, Celtic were entitled to be Scotland’s Champions League representatives, when overcoming the likes of Malmo stood between them and a £15m pay-day.

This is a legal minefield for the SFA chief exec, Stewart Regan, who has my sympathy. Things are about to become interesting.

While we are on the subject of that £2.3m tax bill, HM Revenue and Customs are due to get their hands on the cash after Friday next week, the last day Rangers are able to dispute the debt. If Rangers enter administration prior to that date, the cash would revert to the administrator and the club’s secured creditors would be entitled to it.

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  1. Well done anyone who has phoned in to snyde tonight, 2 hrs and not 1 mention of Huns issues but all about kayal again.

     

     

    Celtic fans have done well to fall into the media trap again and avoid talking about there favourite team the Huns so well done Any snyde lurkers.

  2. History is being rewritten on here tonight.

     

     

    Gordon Strachan was detested by a sizeable proportion of our support when he played for Aberdeen.

     

     

    There is no doubt about that.

     

    He was attacked twice by Celtic supporters.Once infront of the Paddock at Aberdeen ,and once in front of the Jungle.

     

     

    I can remember thousands of Celtic fans howling abuse at him when he played for Aberdeen.

     

     

    He was a magnificent player who liked to rub it in when they were winning.

     

     

    I detested him for it.

     

     

    There is no doubt that it made it difficult for me to take to him when he became Celtic manager because of this.

     

     

    I would find it difficult to take to Mojo also.

     

     

    If Celtic were to appoint Ian Ferguson as manager would feel the same way.

     

     

    TT

  3. WHIT!! Anyone see that advert for the dailyorc and Sundayhun on STV

     

     

    Appparently if you buy the Orc on saturday you get a free celtic book detailing the best 20 celtic v thems matches

     

     

    Buy the sundayhun and get a free book of 25 thems v celtic

     

     

    Astonishing as MON would say

  4. Houlyerwheest – it’s an oldie but a cracker. I can literally never see a Bee without thinking of the Big Effin Bee and the big effin polis in his big effin boots. It’s enough to get you banned from FaceTweet and Twitbook and quite possibly CQETims too.

     

     

    Are people from Effin known as Effers?

     

     

    Have a good effin night!

  5. James Forrest

     

     

    You have some audacity coming on here and taking the moral high ground and down crying other Celtic supporters.

     

     

    Despite having the ability to.

     

     

    You don’t even go and support the team.

     

     

    No doubt you will have some moral and ethical reason for not doing so.

     

     

    TT

  6. James Forrest is Lennon on

    TinyTim:

     

     

    Absolute garbage son. You are aware, right, that you just give the halfwit Neil Lennon haters answer there, almost word for word, right?

     

     

    To equate Gordon Strachan with Ian Ferguson or Judas …. Get a grip of yourself.

     

     

    You’re not speaking for me. You best believe that.

  7. fergus slayed the blues says:

     

    2 December, 2011 at 19:40

     

     

    Their natural instinct id to close ranks.

     

     

    They are so used to everything working in their favour that they probably assume that this will continue.

     

     

    After whining long and hard about Murray, after his departure, they threw all their eggs into the Whyte basket.

     

     

    They are de peepil.

     

     

    Our natural instinct, forged through bitter experience, is to be cautious and trust nobody.

     

     

    Unfortunately, this sometimes leads to internicene warfare amongst us ; or, as Willie Maley put it, ” It’s an Irish thing”.

  8. hen1rik

     

     

    There are a lot of lonely people out there. they need an outlet. Snyde seems to be doing great work in that respect – giving a voice to the clueless.

     

     

    Offski fur me…………………….

  9. fergus slayed the blues on

    RobertTressell says:

     

    2 December, 2011 at 19:44

     

    Even CW would baulk at the casino moonbeam surely .

     

    A wee bit of fun bhoys ,who can think of something CW has NOT done since he has taken over the ragers ……I’ll start

     

    1.HE HAS NOT PAID THE SMALL TAX BILL

  10. Seven Fishes Four Steaks says:

     

    2 December, 2011 at 19:45,

     

     

    Don’t want to say in case I cause offence.

     

     

    Alternatively, I would be happy travelling with a club who is travelling at a decent time and maybe coming back later that night.

     

     

    Barrach Obampot says:

     

    2 December, 2011 at 19:50

     

     

    Very decent of you. Thanks

     

     

    Lurgan 53,

     

     

    She is indeed a great woman. Maybe not the best judge of character-:),

     

     

    Seriously though, I love the bones of her.

     

     

    Árd Macha

  11. James Forrest is Lennon on

    TinyTim:

     

     

    I have REASONS for not going, many of which are none of your damned business and having explained many of them on this site before I am not doing it again. You try and score cheap points against me all you want, but I say again you don’t speak for me on this issue of Gordon Strachan, who is a far better man that you, a superior human being and, in my view, epitomises Celtic in a way you never will no matter how many more games than me you’ve been to this, or any, season.

     

     

    That man has never said a bad word about this club or its fans since leaving, despite the inescapable fact nice little media careers have been carved in this bigoted backwater for going the opposite way once leaving Celtic behind. In my view, his dream job was to be manager of Scotland and he cast that one to the four winds by his association with our club, so if you don’t think he made sacrifices to come here, again you’re barking.

     

     

    Your hate filled spiels tonight, first against Strachan, and then against me, sum up my argument in a nutshell.

  12. James Forrest

     

     

    Yet again condescending.

     

     

    Calling me son.

     

     

    I am probably older than you,but certainly not young enough to be your son.

     

     

    I never once said i was speaking for you or anyone else.

     

     

    One thing is for sure.

     

     

    I don’t act like you.

     

     

    I actually go and support my team in the flesh whenever that is possible.

     

    Irrespective of the form of the team or who the board of directors are.

     

     

     

    Your some Celtic supporter right enough.You know how to read and write you just don’t know how to physically support.

     

     

    TT

  13. glendalystonsils on

    Googybhoy

     

     

    I was talking to a couple of guys in the pub earlier who gave me a few bits of solid gold information.

     

    Apparently all our decent players will be signing for EPL teams for next to no transfer fee, while R@ngers will be keeping all of their superstars and adding

     

    a few world class ones for their assault on next seasons CL. I didn’t catch the names of the two guys but I couldn’t help feeling I’d seen them somewhere before . One was a weasel faced guy with glasses and moustache and the other was a fat ,ugly guy with lamb gravy all down his tie.

     

    Seemed nice fellas though………………

  14. DUSHANBE BILLYBHOY on

    James Forrest is Lennon says:

     

    2 December, 2011 at 19:14

     

     

    James Forrest….Post of the Day, so far.

     

     

    Stand up and take a bow.

     

     

    I salute and respect you!

  15. Paddy Gallagher on

    San Diego Bhoy says:

     

     

    2 December, 2011 at 19:57

     

     

     

    Sorry pal it’s eldeigobhoy I was thinking of……..

  16. Árd Macha says:

     

    2 December, 2011 at 19:59

     

     

     

    Do you not think that your attendance in Sharkey’s would be more beneficial, given your winning record, than dragging that wee boy away from his toys, so soon after Christmas, in the middle of the night?

     

     

    I’ll get the Cruelty onto ye.

  17. Paddy Gallagher on

    fergus slayed the blues says:

     

     

    2 December, 2011 at 19:58

     

     

    RobertTressell says:

     

    2 December, 2011 at 19:44

     

    Even CW would baulk at the casino moonbeam surely .

     

    A wee bit of fun bhoys ,who can think of something CW has NOT done since he has taken over the ragers

     

    *************

     

     

    A/ Went to confession.

  18. James Forrest

     

     

    Yet again making stuff up.

     

     

    Where did i say i was speaking for you .

     

     

    And when was Gordon Strachan offered the Scotland Job?

     

     

    Total mince.

     

     

    Away to the top of your political and moral high ground.

     

     

    You have no reason not to go and see Celtic and support them,you have an opinion which you have adopted as an excuse not to go.

     

     

    TT

  19. James Forrest is Lennon on

    TinyTim:

     

     

    I said in my first post on this that “in my personal opinion” Gordon Strachan is more a Celtic man than some of his critics.

     

     

    In my personal opinion. But let me tell you what I know of the wider Celtic Family.

     

     

    When Celtic played Manchester United in the recent Legends match, the whole of our ground, almost to a man, stood and applauded this “detested” person onto the pitch.

     

     

    They made it abundantly clear how far removed their views of him are from the malignant ones you pass off a anything more than your own.

  20. TT

     

     

    Why did WGS face more hostility from a section of the Celtic support when we did not take that view towards ex-huns Alfie C, Kenny M , Barry R & Dylan McG, or towards a Hearts player who kicked one of ours, Paul Hartley, or towards our next keeper, Craig Gordon, who seemed desperate to score agin us?

     

     

    Of all the ex-enemies who have joined us, WGS has had to face the highest level of animosity from this section.

     

     

    I think Scott Brown has had the 2nd hardest ride from our support.

  21. James Forrest –

     

     

    your post at 19:14 summed up my thoughts completely. Excellent!

     

     

    Gordon was the catalyst for the changes in the last couple of weeks. In the studio before the Inverness game when talking about the then 12 point deficit he said, and I paraphrase “there’s 6 months to go, try to clawback 2 points a month…”. And look waht’s happened in the 2 weeks since!

     

     

    I forecast that Sunday will be minus 1!

     

     

    Jobo

  22. Lurgan 53 says:

     

    RobertTressell says:

     

     

    2 December, 2011 at 19:46

     

    Was in Ballycastle today and picked up a couple of bottles of poitín. Later on I’m going to heat up a drop and put a big dollop of EFFIN honey in it.

  23. James Forrest is Lennon on

    TinyTim:

     

     

    You sling as much mud as you want in “defence” of your point. I know what my own reasons are and although good ones they are difficult ones to reconcile with how much I care about our club.

     

     

    And before you accuse me of lying again LEARN TO READ.

     

     

    Nowhere did I suggest he was OFFERED the Scotland job. I said it was a career ambition of his, and one he sacrificed because of his association with Celtic. In my view he would have been the perfect appointment instead of Craig Levein, and had he not managed Celtic, with whom he won three league titles – and quite how Craig Levein was viewed as a better bet than a three time league winning coach is indefensible – he almost certainly WOULD have been national coach.

     

     

    No more responses from me to your posts tonight. I can argue all day and night with someone, but you don’t want a discussion on the points, on the facts, and you’ve made no effort to defend your views with anything other than personal invective.

  24. Gordon Strachan No1 Celtic man

     

    Our only media friend

     

    He is a Celtic legend

     

    C’mon the Gordon Srachan

  25. The Calton’s greatest-ever wordsmith was away ahead of the EFFIN Irish story. He was referring to the French town of Effen…..

     

     

    THE BEE FROM THE OLD TOWN OF EFFEN

     

    (Matt McGinn)

     

     

    He kept bees in the old town of Effen

     

    An Effen beekeeper was he

     

    And one day this Effen beekeeper

     

    Was stung by a big Effen bee

     

     

    Now this big Effen beekeeper’s wee Effen wife

     

    For the big Effen polis she ran

     

    For there’s nobody can sort out a big Effen bee

     

    Like a big Effen polisman can

     

     

    The big Effen polisman he did his nut

     

    And he ran down the main Effen street

     

    In his hand was a big Effen baton

     

    He had big Effen boots on his feet

     

     

    The polis got hold of this big Effen bee

     

    And he twisted the Effen bee’s wings

     

    But the big Effen bee got his own back

     

    For this big Effen bee had two stings

     

     

    Now they’re both in the Effen museum

     

    Where the Effen folk often come see

     

    The remains of the big Effen polis

     

    Stung to death by the big Effen bee

     

     

    That’s the end of that wee Effen story

     

    ‘Tis an innocent wee Effen tale

     

    But if you ever tell it in Effen

     

    You’ll end up in the old Effen jail

  26. thomthethim says:

     

    2 December, 2011 at 20:05,

     

     

    Believe me that boy thinks of nothing else but football. he couldn’t care less about toys.

     

     

    As for me, I could very well sample the delights of Sharkeys instead.

     

     

    Hoping to be down for the New Year. Would love to meet up for a few drinks, as we did last year/2 years ago?

     

     

    Árd Macha

  27. Hebcelt

     

     

    Cheers mate, as it happens the mother in law has a Costco card, we are going tomorrow, im aw excited here!! is it time yet doll, is it, is it?????

     

     

    hail hail

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