Yesterday’s The Price of Football BBC article was fascinating. Celtic, not surprisingly, have the most expensive season ticket in Scotland at £559. That’s around the midway mark for English Championship clubs, and a lower top price than only Sunderland and West Brom in the English Premier League.
Our cheapest adult season tickets, costing £337, is among a group of Premiership clubs bookended by Hearts and Kilmarnock (£280), and Hamilton Accies (£350). Inverness are an outlier, with a season ticket costing only £200.
Some of the prices in the English Premier League are astonishing Arsenal tickets cost between £1,014 and £2013 – and that’s for standard seats. Football is expensive everywhere, but in London in particular. The cheapest ticket at Arsenal, Chelsea (£750), Spurs (£765) and West Ham (£617) is matched only by Liverpool (£710).
Manchester City, with their petrodollars and newly enlarged stadium offer £299 tickets. Good value, but the most obvious question from reading the EPL stats is why, with all that TV and sponsorship money reducing match-ticket income to a tiny percentage of the pot, don’t they bring prices down further- like City, Stoke (£294) and Sunderland (£190).
The BBC also surveyed the price of tea, shirts, programmes and pies. One thing I checked for but couldn’t find, is the price all clubs in British and Irish football charge visiting Celtic fans – compared to the standard price they charge all other visiting fans.
Only Kilmarnock have one tariff for all home and away fans, apart from Celtic fans; and another, higher, ticket price for Celtic fans. You may think the people at Kilmarnock would be embarrassed by this. They should be, but I suspect they couldn’t care less. They don’t care what you think of them, and they are taking you for mugs……. Mugs. Think about that for a moment.
I like Aberdeen and hope they do well. Their success is good for Scottish football, but you can see the cracks opening up on what was a very promising season only a few weeks ago. Yesterday’s statement from the club, asserting that their manager would not be leaving, cut to the heart of the matter. Speculation is part of football. Clubs do themselves no favours by getting dragged into official comments over such issues. Better to brief one or two people off the record, let them quell the chatter.
Instead Aberdeen grandstanded with this fatal mistake, “we would question the motivation of those individuals looking to unsettle the club”. So it’s unsettling. There you have it. The players, and manager, have an excuse ahead of tomorrow night’s game.
Give players an excuse to fail and they will often grab it with both hands.
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ACGR
Good to see you post amigo.
Need sleep. GNGB. See ye soon I hope.
Re Gregor Stevens, met him when I was working for HP, surprisingly, came across as a nice guy. Asked him about his playing style, said it made up for his limited skill, as he laughed.
As for the elephant man, you remember the sign as you went into Aberdeen in the 80’s, keep Grampian beutiful, somebody wrote beneath it………. sell Davie Dodds.
Bma
BMA
Loved it when we sang the Davie Dodds elephant man song to him and he ran to us in the Jungle waving his arm fae his nose like an elephant trunk. Great craic.
DD
Even a mother couldnae love that…………….ugly bassa.
Bma
Cloghercelt- as I told Alan, it was no effort on my behalf. D did it all. Sorry to miss you and everyone else on Sat. Will contact soon. Hh
Seeing as we’re on ugly hun bassas, surely Hately must get a mention.
DD,
Ain’t they all:)
Acgr, still howlin Mick, good to see haha
Bma
The New Age Movement have always had one aim, the total annihilation of Christianity, it started way back.
Worth reading prior to the comment below
The latest Government (Tory or Labour – both are furthering an agenda) want to strip everyone of their liberties, these ‘extremism disruption orders’ are being brought in to attack Christianity, make no mistake about that, yes the comments are about radicalising Muslims but the real target is the Word of God, it isn’t hard to see the new age agenda when you are aware of the New Agers goal, like all the secretive ones in various societies from various religions – The Target is Christ and his Divinity, they will try and deny it, boldly and Subtly, yesterday and until the End of Time. God stepped into his Creation and took away all the Sins of the World, what a Tremendous Father and as so many flee from War, Preaching the Word of God is likely to become a No No in the ‘catch all Extremism’.
Evolve or die right enough.
Just try and Preach John 14:6 if this is brought in…. I mean you shouldn’t preach to anyone these days, a lot of people would be very offended – He must be an Extremist saying that Jesus is the Only way.
We are not all one with the Universe, sins and evil do Really exist despite the truly sickening excrement spouted by these chancers on this especially, there is no ascending to a higher plane, no consciousness going higher, no becoming God, none of that Baloney that the New Agers are filling peoples heads with, all Masonic sources as well. The lie of the serpent, is just that, a lie, those transhumanists and posthumanists are going for it big time but they are doomed to fail miserably.
EfeAmbrose.csc
melbourne mick.
ha ha .I ‘ve just read ur post and seen u’v got a couple of the good guys who like what u write. Its great that bobby winkle picker organised a day out for the troops I would love a good day out back home . Goodonya Bobby. Sunday should be a good day as the leader of the band is a big Tim and used to play in TheAdmiral in Waterloo st .My wife was in the fan club so it should be a good reunion.As far as me wearing German girly gear Michael, Inyer dreams pal.
Morning cqn.
Early start for me .
Catch you all laters.
PETEC on 16TH OCTOBER 2015 4:51 AM
The New Age Movement have always had one aim, the total annihilation of Christianity, it started way back.
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What exactly has this to do with Efe?
This is the plan of Ronny-D, and why I think he will bring real success to Celtic.
“We want them (15 – 21 year olds) to win but we want them to win our way.
If you try to win tactically by closing down the opposition then they have no chance.
It then becomes all about the system and the players are not using games to develop their skills.
However, if you allow them to play then you will get results in the end.”
The future is bright, it’s green & white!
Not been on the blog all week for everybody whose family members need the prayers they have them, for everybody celebrating stuff well done…..
Nipped on and off for a wee read this week my take is
The blog is rubbish….the blog is magic
The board are rubbish…the board are magic
Ronny is rubbish…Ronny is magic
At least the morra we can moan (or rejoice) watching the champions
To steal Jobo’s weather update “you canny see the most for the fog in ML5”
Clogher glad you made it home safe and well hope you enjoyed a few days with your family interrupted by meeting strangers face the Internet
Good morning Newradbhoy ……..
Wee Griffiths hat trick the morra to show Mr Strachan that he is the best striker by a country mile for his or any other Scotland team at the moment
Off to work,
Good morning from Bulgarski, a few injury worries creaping in to some key players, Broon, Griff, and Forrest to name three.
Hopefully nothing serious though.
Morning awe
international week a real drag
if yer a Scotland fan especially
wee Gordon set for a new contract
with the sfa only cos he’s popular
wi the fans Scotland will not quality for Russia 2018 anyways
I put horse up last week that won.. Johann Bach
It’s running today at Dundalk again.
Race 6 . Seems to be fancied again, gone from 10/1 to 13/2 pretty quickly.
P.s
Bet responsibly
lennon’s passion on 15th October 2015 8:30 pm
If someone was to Google Celtic forum’s/chat rooms and stumbled upon CQN they would be hard pushed to work out this was a Celtic blog. Just read back lucky if there’s a dozen post about Celtic. Politics, Zombies some utter pish gets posted.
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Ah know, it’s all about….
Clique backslapping
Certain egotistical fans who think that ‘they’ are the best fans that Celtic FC have ever had, spitting the dummy coz they didny get a ticket….grow up ffs.
Dreamers telling us that we are the biggest club in Scotland and should become all hunlike and flex our muscles to demonstrate that point….completely oblivious to the fact that Celtic PLC are ‘more’ than willing bedfellows with the O## F### pals and, continue to look the other way when the fans are being given it tight by the media and the establishment….being charged more admission momey for example….who fights the fans corner?….nobody does coz….the world and his unle knows that Celtic fans are easy-meat….Res-12….what a load of pish if, ever there was a load of pish…..seriously….thehuns will be back in the same league as Celtic next season but….Res-12 dreamers are going to get the book thrown at the SFA for letting the huns into Europe when, they clearly didnt comply with the criteria for a licence and yet, they didnt even comply with the conditions for a licence to play in the SPL….what did celtic’s board do about that?….hee-haw….they looked the other way as, tens of thousands of, innocent-well-meaning Celtic supporters paid to watch a competition that, the Celtic board of directors ‘knew’ was fixed before a ball was kicked….???….Please, Celtic supporters….stop looking the other way….the problem lies with the serpents who run your club. Dont believe me?….just listen to the DD narrative.
Hypothetical situation….Celtic FC, ready to play the huns next season….what will the fans do?….
Tell Celtic FC that they wont be conned again and announce a bhoycott?
Place a statement in the Sunday Herald?
What?
https://youtu.be/s20sSrmnzhc
Great commentary
the best still makes me laugh
he should do every Celtic game
If anybody can be ersed answering…I’ll catch you later.
Hail Hail……off oot.
That’s The Kings just announced their “Xmas Season”……………
……..some incredible “characters” in full panto- rig…………………………
Unbelievable “routines”, some belters and incredible writing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Oh aye!
it seems that the Online Ticket Sales function on the Celtic web site is now deemed a malicious site in my work and i cant access it anymore
No wonder with those booking fees :-)
anyway, on the ayrshire huns ticket debacle…
exactly what is their agenda other than ‘get it right up you Timmie’?
prices being raised due to supply and demand is unfortunately part of life, and sport isnt exempt from it.
most of us might think its blatant profiteering by greedy fat cat bosses (see Colin Murrays piece in todays Metro for instance)
and so i can kind of handle teams like the mini huns for instance sticking a couple of quid on their tickets when they play us, at least they can provide the supply and demand excuse
but killie have no such excuse. their ground is half empty these days when we go, in fact we only take half as many tickets as we used to, and dont even sell all of those.
it does seem to be a malicious dig at the club and fans but as usual nothing will be done
it is part of a general trend of gross overpricing of scottish football, and we are very involved in that as well, the cost for someone to buy a ticket to watch a league game at celtic park is ridiculous, and is in no way refelctive these days of the product on the park
anyway, should be a good atmosphere at the lanarkshire huns ground tomorrow (how many different huns are there in scotland? – Ed) , celtic end tickets sold out, and no doubt the GB will be in good form
Good morning cqn
Foggy day over celtic park today – let’s hope it doesn’t move to motherwell overnight
Ross county to take at least a point tonight
TBJ says Wee Oscar Knox is in heaven with the angels on 16th October 2015 8:07 am
Good morning cqn
Foggy day over celtic park today – let’s hope it doesn’t move to motherwell overnight
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it would have to be the thickest fog in the world to want to move to motherwell ;-)
foghorn leghorn
(how many different huns are there in scotland? – Ed)
Around 95% of yir population -)))
US, Russia & Syria: The Problem With Faking It
By Thomas S. Harrington
October 12, 2015 “Information Clearing House” – The great danger of faking your ability to do something in the public square is that someone with an actual desire to the job you are pretending to do might come along and show you up.
This is what has just happened to the US in Syria with the entrance of Russia into the fight against ISIL.
And as is generally the case with posers caught with their pants down, the US policy elites are not happy about it.
You see, the US strategic goal in Syria is not as your faithful mainstream media servants (led by that redoubtable channeler of Neo-Con smokescreens at the NYT Michael Gordon) might have you believe to save the Syrian people from the ravages of the long-standing Assad dictatorship, but rather to heighten the level of internecine conflict in that country to the point where it will not be able to serve as a regional bulwark against Israeli regional hegemony for at least another generation.
How do we know? Because important protagonists in the Israelo-American policy planning elite have advertised the fact with a surprising degree of clarity in documents and public statements issued over the last several decades.
The key here is learning to listen to what our cultural training has not prepared us to hear.
In 1982, as the Likud Party (which is to say, the institutional incarnation of the Revisionist Zionist belief, first articulated by Jabotinsky in the “Iron Wall” that the only way to deal with “the Arabs” in and around Israel was through unrelenting force and the inducement of cultural fragmentation) was consolidating its hold on the foreign policy establishment of Israel, a journalist named Oded Yinon, who had formerly worked at the Israeli Foreign Ministry, published an article in which he outlined the strategic approach his country needed to take in the coming years.
What follows are some excerpts from Israel Shahak’s English translation of that text:
“Lebanon’s total dissolution into five provinces serves as a precedent for the entire Arab world including Egypt, Syria, Iraq and the Arabian Peninsula and is already following that track. The dissolution of Syria and Iraq later on into ethnically or religiously unique areas such as in Lebanon, is Israel’s primary target on the Eastern front in the long run, while the dissolution of the military power of those states serves as the primary short term target. Syria will fall apart, in accordance with its ethnic and religious structure, into several states such as in present day Lebanon….”
“Iraq, rich in oil on the one hand and internally torn on the other, is guaranteed as a candidate for Israel’s targets. Its dissolution is even more important for us than that of Syria. Iraq is stronger thanSyria. In the short run it is Iraqi power which constitutes the greatest threat to Israel. An Iraqi-Iranian war will tear Iraq apart and cause its downfall at home even before it is able to organize a struggle on a wide front against us. Every kind of inter-Arab confrontation will assist us in the short run and will shorten the way to the more important aim of breaking up Iraq into denominations as in Syria and in Lebanon. In Iraq, a division into provinces along ethnic/religious lines as in Syria during Ottoman times is possible. So, three (or more) states will exist around the three major cities: Basra, Baghdad and Mosul, and Shi’ite areas in the south will separate from the Sunni and Kurdish north.”
“If Egypt falls apart, countries like Libya, Sudan or even the more distant states will not continue to exist in their present form and will join the downfall and dissolution of Egypt.
“There is no chance that Jordan will continue to exist in its present structure for a long time, and Israel’s policy, both in war and in peace, ought to be directed at the liquidation of Jordan under the present regime and the transfer of power to the Palestinian majority.”
Yinon’s vision reappeared in the now infamous “Clean Break” document from 1996, authored by a consortium of US and Israeli “strategic thinkers” that included Richard Perle, Douglas Feith and David and Meyrav Wurmser, which was meant to serve as a foreign policy guide for the first administration of Benjamin Netanyahu.
The text is nothing if not obsessive regarding the need to seriously debilitate Syria’s ability to act in any way is a pole of regional influence in the in the area .
“Israel can shape its strategic environment, in cooperation with Turkey and Jordan, by weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria. This effort can focus on removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq — an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right — as a means of foiling Syria’s regional ambitions.”
“Most important, it is understandable that Israel has an interest supporting diplomatically, militarily and operationally Turkey’s and Jordan’s actions against Syria, such as securing tribal alliances with Arab tribes that cross into Syrian territory and are hostile to the Syrian ruling elite.”
And as Dan Sanchez has recently shown, David Wurmser went into even greater detail about the need to balkanize Israel’s northeastern neighbor in articles published in approximately the same time period, talking quite openly in one essay about “expediting the chaotic collapse” of Baathist Syria.
Then there is Wesley Clark’s famous speech, given in 2007, in which he revealed the true strategic aims of those running US foreign policy in the wake of the September 11th attacks. In it, he tells of a conversation he had at that time with a Pentagon official who admitted that the real plan was “to attack and destroy the governments in seven countries in five years”.
Those countries, according to Clark, were: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iraq. In the same speech, he explicitly ties the hatching of the plan to Richard Perle, head of the cadre of people who wrote in the “Clean Break” document of the paramount importance of putting Israel in position to “shape its strategic environment”.
On September 5th, 2013, Alon Pinkas, the former Israeli Consul General in New York and well-connected member of Tel Aviv’s conservative policy elite described the Syrian conflict in the following terms in the New York Times:
“This is a playoff situation in which you need both teams to lose, but at least you don’t want one to win — we’ll settle for a tie,….Let them both bleed, hemorrhage to death: that’s the strategic thinking here. As long as this lingers, there’s no real threat from Syria.”
I don’t think it can get much clearer than that. The US-Israeli plan in Syria never been about helping anyone in that country, but rather insuring its effective dismemberment so as to further the perceived “strategic interests” of the Jewish state.
As Tomás Alcoverro, the longtime Mideast correspondent of Barcelona’s La Vanguardia newspaper wrote 9 October 2015, in reference to the combined Russian and Syrian government attacks carried out during the previous week: “If this joint offensive is successful, the US plan for continuing the war of attrition until both sides are exhausted, will lie in ruins”.
Yes, the US and Israelis, have been “faking it” in Syria for a good long time now. And Putin has come along and called their bluff.
And they are not happy about it. Which is why the ongoing campaign of demonization against the Russian leader is being ratcheted up—if that’s possible—to still higher levels of intelligence-insulting hyperbole.
Thomas S. Harrington is a professor of Iberian Studies at Trinity College in Hartford, Connecticut and the author of the recently published book, Livin’ la Vida Barroca: American Culture in a Time of Imperial Orthodoxies. Via “Common Dreams” –
Anyroadup
COYBIG
Canamalar
Some very interesting articles over on Greenwald’s site The Intercept yesterday, The Drone Wars papers, well worth a sobering read.
Anyhow yer right Come On You Bhoys In Green..
Right away tae get lost in France:)
HH
Maybe see some of you “at the game”.
HH Celtic Suporters
Over and out
Kev J. 7.26.
Lots of contentious points, but mostly if not all ignored.
Apathy rules the day.
I would like to challenge your egotistical statement.
If fans go to every away game and then are not allocated a ticket under Celtics ticket rules when they should be, then they have every right to be annoyed with the club. That doesn’t make them egotistical.
I hope your health continues to improves its always good to read your posts, even if I disagree with some parts.
Time for some rebel music
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Or020fmykNU
Jimmynotpaul
As I said a couple of days ago, one week you get the away ticket, two weeks I get it, been like that for years, I doubt if any away fan is guaranteed an away ticket, it’s just the way it goes, personally I would tell them to stick them up there arse, then again that’s me, but we are getting the piss ripped of us.
KevJ @ 7.26…you are a one man clique…glad to see you are still giving it big licks…hope you are well.
Jimmynotpaul,
Are fans who don’t go to every away game getting tickets?
The way I’m reading it is there are more fans who go to every away game than there are tickets.
What are celtic to do? Forge some?
Should the Rebs be sung at Celtic park
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qGCQwb4BGpQ
NEIL LENNON & MCCARTNEY @ 6:19 AM,
This is the plan of Ronny-D, and why I think he will bring real success to Celtic.
I concur, great quote from Ronny, knows the score…
Hail Hail
Morning all.
Yet another beautiful day doon the watter.
Mind you, I almost lol listening to the radio earlier. A Scot Nat claimed that the oil price collapsed because Scotland voted NO.
Is today the ole trysting day in the Courts?
Oh aye, Charlie Bhoys turned up for court I see, lol.
Nutter working his ticket.
Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho tells Football Focus’ Dan Walker that he must be quiet from now in the media or risk being given a stadium ban and then “an electronic tag.”
TONYDONNELLY
A gag would suit him better than a tag. Fella’s losing the plot.