Football costs, a Get it up You from Kilmarnock and Aberdeen giving excuses to fail

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Yesterday’s The Price of Football BBC article was fascinating. Celtic, not surprisingly, have the most expensive season ticket in Scotland at £559. That’s around the midway mark for English Championship clubs, and a lower top price than only Sunderland and West Brom in the English Premier League.

Our cheapest adult season tickets, costing £337, is among a group of Premiership clubs bookended by Hearts  and Kilmarnock (£280), and Hamilton Accies (£350). Inverness are an outlier, with a season ticket costing only £200.

Some of the prices in the English Premier League are astonishing Arsenal tickets cost between £1,014 and £2013 – and that’s for standard seats. Football is expensive everywhere, but in London in particular. The cheapest ticket at Arsenal, Chelsea (£750), Spurs (£765) and West Ham (£617) is matched only by Liverpool (£710).

Manchester City, with their petrodollars and newly enlarged stadium offer £299 tickets. Good value, but the most obvious question from reading the EPL stats is why, with all that TV and sponsorship money reducing match-ticket income to a tiny percentage of the pot, don’t they bring prices down further- like City, Stoke (£294) and Sunderland (£190).

The BBC also surveyed the price of tea, shirts, programmes and pies. One thing I checked for but couldn’t find, is the price all clubs in British and Irish football charge visiting Celtic fans – compared to the standard price they charge all other visiting fans.

Only Kilmarnock have one tariff for all home and away fans, apart from Celtic fans; and another, higher, ticket price for Celtic fans. You may think the people at Kilmarnock would be embarrassed by this. They should be, but I suspect they couldn’t care less. They don’t care what you think of them, and they are taking you for mugs…….  Mugs.  Think about that for a moment.

I like Aberdeen and hope they do well.  Their success is good for Scottish football, but you can see the cracks opening up on what was a very promising season only a few weeks ago.  Yesterday’s statement from the club, asserting that their manager would not be leaving, cut to the heart of the matter.  Speculation is part of football.  Clubs do themselves no favours by getting dragged into official comments over such issues.  Better to brief one or two people off the record, let them quell the chatter.

Instead Aberdeen grandstanded with this fatal mistake, “we would question the motivation of those individuals looking to unsettle the club”.  So it’s unsettling.  There you have it.  The players, and manager, have an excuse ahead of tomorrow night’s game.

Give players an excuse to fail and they will often grab it with both hands.

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  1. Tony @1028

     

     

    Crazy eh?

     

     

     

    I can’t see him getting banned then receiving a fancy watch :)

     

     

     

    HH

  2. Simunovic, Mulgrew, Allan out

     

    Lustig, Brown, Bitton, Johansen, Forrest, Griffiths all carrying knocks

     

    Rogic, Izaguirre travelling back from the other side of the world

     

     

    Going to be an interesting team selection tomorrow.

  3. BMCUW

     

     

    Posted a quick thanks for your good wishes yesterday, dunno if you were about.

     

     

    You were right, of course, already viewing the world from a lower elevation.

  4. I see Sevco have an ex Barcelona,Israeli International “Wonder kid”training with them,according to our SMSM.

     

    Is this the same Barca “Wonder Kid”who never played for them?.

     

    Is this the same Israeli International who has one cap?.

     

    Is this the same”Wonder kid who is 25 years old,and unheard of?.

     

    Its amazing what can happen when you sign up the best scout in Britain.

  5. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    BEATBHOY

     

     

    I did,mate. Im still trying to get my head round the ‘Donald,Where’s Your Troosers’ comment.

     

     

    Truly a site open to all…

  6. Hmmmmmmmmm

     

     

    As the gory and murky details of their formation are about to unravel in public Sevco have embarked on a major deflection exercise.

     

     

    Charles Green, Craig Whyte, Paul Clark and David Whitehouse will appear at the High Court in Edinburgh as the links between the four men, a £22m share issue and the proceeds of four sets of season ticket money is untangled.

     

     

    Back in February 2012 Mr Whyte appointed Duff and Phelps, headed up by Clark and Whitehouse, to deal with the administration of the club.

     

     

    Four months later Ibrox Stadium and the state-of-the-art Murray Park were sold to Sevco 5088/Scotland for £5.5m having been valued at £130m in the previous decade.

     

     

    Deflecting away from that unedifying spectacle is a flush of good news stories to warm the hearts of the most gullible of supporters.

     

     

    Ding- Star maker Frank McParland is quitting Burnley to join Mark Warburton’s revolution, McParland was solely responsible for the development of Raheem Sterling.

     

     

    Ding Ding- former Barcelona and Manchester City wonderkid Gai Assulin is training at Murray Park with the hope of sealing a dream move.

     

     

    Ding Ding Dong- John Eustace is on the verge of signing a contract after arriving on trial four months ago!

     

     

    While those events distract, the last of the season ticket money will be used up meeting the October payroll with no sign of any external funding to keep the lights on.

     

     

    Back in January 2012 Ally McCoist was on the verge of signing Grant Holt and Fran Sandaza to form a dream strike force with Nikica Jelavic. The reality was that Jelavic was available for £5m up front to meet the January payroll (but not Income Tax or National Insurance. Within five months the club had been through administration and placed in liquidation. Dead.

     

     

     

     

    After an initial splash the court proceedings in Edinburgh are likely to be low key with only the occasional splash being made as some of the detail of the expenditure emerges. Among those that have indulged in the gravy train are Ally McCoist and former chairmen Malcolm Murray and Walter Smith.

     

     

    Of much more concern the company has still to produce audited accounts for the year ending June 2015- covering the first four months of Dave Kings revolution centring around transparency and accountability.

     

     

    Since Mr King, who was described as a glib and shameless liar by a South African judge, took control the company has been kicked off the Alternative Investment Market with toxic Dave making the them untouchable.

     

     

    As the truth emerges it is only the extent of the contact between Mr Green and Mr Whyte that is still to be established.

     

     

    Having banned the former billionaire from Motherwell from any involvement in the Scottish game his role in the present club from Ibrox will turn the footballing spotlight onto the SFA and the secretive five way agreement.

     

     

    While Dave Murray may have been duped it’s hard to see how that claim could be justified by those at Hampden who granted a licence to Mr Green.

     

     

     

    Read more at http://videocelts.com/2015/10/blogs/latest-news/deflection-game-underway-as-gory-sevco-unravel#X1Mrs7efDCvicHi7.99

  7. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    Well it will be good to get back to football tomorrow Motherwell will be a hard game they will have had a lift from there new manager and want to show him what they can do.We on the other hand have a few injuries and one or two players who may be feeling the effects of midweek travel Ronny needs to pick his team carefully and it might be a good game to play a couple of our pool players Armstrong,GMS,Allan or Cifti could get a game as we will also have one eye on the Molde game but it is great to be a Celtic supporter whatever the team.H.H.

  8. Tony Donnelly.

     

    Tony, agree with you about the away games, we are having the proverbial taken out of us.

     

    I will be going to Dingwall n November but it’s as much to do with catching up with old friends, although I will enjoy watching Celtic too.

     

    Geordie Munro.

     

    My point was its not egotistical to complain when you don’t receive a ticket for Tynecastle when you satisfy the criteria.Kev J appeared to suggest it was.

  9. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    BEATBHOY

     

     

    Bad enough assaulting my ears without poking my eyes out too!

  10. Joe,

     

     

     

    Can’t wait for the game tomorrow. Really looking forward to it. I think we have the squad to cope with the injuries and niggles.

     

     

     

    How Motherwell respond to their new gaffer will be interesting.

     

     

     

    HH

  11. Jimmynotpaul,

     

     

     

     

    Of course it’s not egotistical. More fool you for reading Kev ;)

     

     

     

    What I picked up on was you blaming the wrobg club. The club had a ballot of all members who fit criteria. The demand appears to be higher than tickets allocated.

     

     

     

    I’d blame hearts in this case. Or the cup rules. It’s about time they were brought in line with the Scottish Cup….a percentage of stadium for away fans.

     

     

     

    HH

  12. The Clumpanys on it, lol.

     

     

    Good Morning (and please Vote ‘Clumpany’ by 30 October 2015!).

     

     

    On 3 July 2013 the Sevco website published

     

     

    “the first of a new series of exclusive, in-depth and hard-hitting TV interviews” wherein James Traynor spoke to Rangers* Manager Ally McCoist”.

     

     

    Traynor Interviews McCoist

     

     

    In my humble opinion, it is not Traynor’s finest moment as Communications Director at Sevco. That would have to be his wibbletastic ‘Thomson Should Blog Off’ opinion piece which appeared on their website on 13 February 2013.

     

     

    But the McCoist interview is a classic in its own right. Towards the end (from 23:30mins) Traynor starts talking about people “having a kick at this club” and gets rather emotional. He takes a pop at people “who claim to be Rangers fans”, and states (somewhat ominously) “some of us know who they are” before uttering the immortal words

     

     

    “There WILL be a day of reckoning” (25:30mins).

     

     

    McCoist concurs, saying

     

     

    “The day of reckoning. And it will come. All I would ask for is that we handle it with the same class we have handled the last 140 years. Apart from the last two”.

     

     

    The precise timing and content of the Day of Reckoning was never subsequently defined.

     

     

    But I note that a pretty substantial process of potential ‘reckoning’ is about to kick off today in a preliminary hearing at the High Court in Edinburgh…

     

     

    Green, Whyte and five others due at court for Rangers fraud case

     

     

    Maybe that’s what Traynor and McCoist had in mind on that angry day in July 2013?

     

     

    #KeepOnClumping

     

     

    NB The Clumpany has made it to the final of the Football Blogging Awards 2015! Many thanks for your support! All votes from the previous round have been wiped out so your renewed support would be greatly appreciated! I understand that you can vote more than once.

     

     

    You can vote via

     

     

    Twitter by using this link http://bit.ly/1PVwe7P

     

     

    On the FBA website, by following this link http://bit.ly/1uMohJw

  13. Morning bhoys.

     

     

    How much can you reasonably charge supporters to watch Scottish Football.

     

    Considering the quality of football on show most weeks, id say about a fifteen quid tops.

     

    It cant go on like this…it really is a rip off.

     

    Greed is ruining the game.

     

    Paying top dollar to see average players….while at the same time the national team keeps getting pumped.

     

    And now, we have to suffer the ramblings of Henry McLeish and his new plan for Scottish Football.

     

    Its like Ernie Walker’s Think Tank.

     

    Dinosaurs and chancers running the game.

     

     

     

    HH

  14. is KO noon tomorrow? Motherwell will set up not to lose – obviously, so could be a long hard slog. I’d like to see us go for the jugular right from the off and destroy them. Any hope of Leigh and Nadir playing together? H H Hebcelt

  15. Geordie Munro. 11.24

     

    Thanks for that.

     

    I know my response may be rather boring but I agree with your post.

     

    More fool me, indeed.

     

    To use McCoist speak, I’m pretty sure who Kev J was having a fly kick at and as he’s a good friend I thought I would respond.

     

    The last time we played Hearts away in a cup tie, they had thousands of empty seats.

  16. I think tomorrow will be like every other game opposition sitting back for the whole first half, and trying to catch us in the break with ten mins. To go in the half, same as in the second half, it’s total all out commitment for attack from us, but we need to watch the back door in the last ten mins. Of each half, I’m going for a win, a tight one but we have to take our chances, we are missing to many blots.

  17. There was also an oh-so-subtle (not) set-up, disguised as hard-talking between ‘Ranjurs’ men, in the Traynor- McCoist interview, designed to get Traynor out of his previous statements about Rangers being dead following the failure to get a CVA.

     

     

    Explaining himself, he uses his lack of knowledge about the separation of club and company at the time of writing, but says he now knows better.

     

     

    And so ‘incorporation’ joined ‘liquidation’ and ‘administration’ as words with no meaning in Scoddish football.

  18. Bet there are empty seats at Murderwell tomorrow.

     

     

    Couple on here still trying to off load tickets.

     

     

    As for killie and the Wee Huns boycott and let them rot.

     

     

    HH

  19. Butstbhoy

     

     

    I saw an advert fom Motherwell ticket office advertising tickets for sale for both home and away supporters yesterday.

  20. A couple of random thoughts from Sunny Algarve….

     

     

    Are the Killie prices for us not higher due to the bigger crowd hence higher policing costs? Hasn’t Celtic used this tactic on us at Paradise for years? When it was £25 to see the bottom 6 teams it was always around £27 for say Dundee United, then £29 for Aberdeen and Hearts. Not to mention £42 for the hunz games. Some memory, eh?

     

     

    There are Celtic fans who are guaranteed tickets for EVERY away game. I’m sure most on here will know some who are never denied. I know at least two groups who never fail to get tickets going back decades. Sometimes wee mistakes might be made but they’re quickly rectified with a wee call to the TO. BTW no axe to grind as I stopped going to away games in the 80s.

     

     

    Finally, tomorrow could be tricky. Teams always try 10% harder against us and Well in particular try an extra 10% at Fir Park. Add in the new manager factor and it’s shaping up to be quite a game – especially with what appears to be a lengthy injury list.

  21. I’m not to sure about Phils article this time, from what I know when I was over there for the month of June, they Huns over here invested big time in the last venture, and going by what I heard, and I know a few of them, the wife’s will have a wee bit more say in this one, well that’s the way I saw it anyway.

     

     

    Time for the Co-Investors to save the PayDay

     

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    “Why did Rangers supporters stand by and allow their club to bleed out?”

     

     

    I wrote that as the final line in the section of Downfall dealing with the fans.

     

     

    It still baffles me that the club that took hundreds of thousands of supporters to Manchester in 2008 could quietly die in June 2012 with the fans rubbernecking at the scene.

     

     

    Well now their new club is bleeding out too.

     

     

    However, this time, they seem to be stepping up.

     

     

    My information is that various supporters’ organisations have certainly been asked to contribute financially.

     

     

    As has been reported here that without external finance the new regime will struggle to meet all of their monthly commitments this month.

     

     

    I understand that Mr Richard Gough has been active in making approaches to well-heeled Real Rangers Men in North America.

     

     

    These are the same chaps who Mr Paul Murray unsuccessfully contacted some time ago to raise much-needed finance.

     

     

    It is my hunch that the New Regime hoped that the vigorous embodiment of the Nine In A Row glory years would be showered with affection across the Pond.

     

     

    Alas, although there was love in the room there was no money on offer.

     

     

    Well-placed sources also tell me that the New Regime revisited Mr Bill Miller and Mr Robert Sarver, but without success.

     

     

    So, at the moment, it appears to be the …ahem… ‘Co-investors’ who will have to step up.

     

     

    DavidCunninghamKingInvestingTheLionsShare

     

     

    How long they can maintain that financial burden for remains to be seen.

     

     

    However, it is more than they did for their last club and they should be commended for that at least.

     

     

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  22. Butsybhoy

     

     

    Certainly, the last time I tried to get an away end ticket in their office, they told me they weren’t selling them, had to get it from Celtic.

     

     

    Not all that long ago I was in the Davie Cooper stand full of Celtic fans, as we had been given both stands behind the goals that day. Had a rotten seat, so moved to empty row of seats, claret I think, with Murderwell fans’ names on them, that weren’t being used. Plenty followed suit when stewards said nothing.

  23. Wouldn’t do that nowadays, of course, incase I was offending the home supporter watching from the side stands, and got arrested under the ‘Being a Celtic supporter at a Football match’ Act.

  24. Talking about tickets.

     

     

    I have one adult and three children all in the same row in the north stand for the home game V Dundee Utd.

     

     

    FOC to anyone who would like them.

     

     

    going on holiday next Wednesday.

     

     

    HH

  25. Gerryfaethebrig on

    Fleagle…. Burgas Hopps means the 13.55 at Ascot, too early in the morning to confuse me

     

     

    I will go with Sacraficial in the 15.45pm at Ascot, for anybody parting with their hard earned cash today, best of luck to all (might put a shilling or two on Buckstay that’s how confused I am)

     

     

    Cheers GFTB