I see “football fans” is the latest euphemism to describe right-wing hordes causing intimidation to anyone who is not of a similar mind-set across our cities. They may well be, football is a popular interest, but the game, for them and the rest of us, is the cultural touchstone we find most available.
At first pass, the dark recesses of the game these types congregate in probably look no different to any other stadium. At all clubs, fans are mostly white, mostly male (though increasingly less so) and share many of the socio-economic problems that make the susceptible to abhorrent ideologies.
For decades, football complained that hooliganism was a societal problem, but no one really paid attention. Now there is no football the picture should be clearer. The disaffected and easily influenced find companionship wherever possible, for many that happens to be in football, and for some of those, a culture war would define their lives more than anything else possibly could.
Despite the gloom, the direction of travel is positive. In the 70s and 80s, racism was at home in the game. Peer pressure brought isolated idiots to heel and it flourishes in fewer places than imaginable a few decades ago. You might never give it a thought, but you are involved in the great culture war. It will live longer than any of us, but the outcome is assured.
SPFL clubs know how to destroy interest in their product at a time when they should be doing just the opposite. Another week, another attempt to save Hearts from relegation. It is tedious. Just make a decision and stick to it, credibility is draining with each fresh episode.
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Celtic Fans don’t have a universal political stance. We do tend to be left wing but I am sure there is plenty of fans who would not have this general positioning. I would say among those who vote that SNP get the biggest share.
People of the BAME group if football supporters would tend to support Celtic rather than Rangers. The Klan at Ibrox do not make BAME welcome.
We do have a charitable ethos from Brother Walfrids example. The Klan on the other hand help them selves.
With Orange walks likely banned due to coronavirus, the Klan are spoiling for a fight and this is not the end of this sight. I expect them having protests and counter protests throughout the summer.
I hope the Green Brigade don’t get involved as a Unit. I don’t have a problem with Individuals but I wouldn’t like it to become a Celtic Rangers thing.
Media hoping to involve Celtic in any way.
Ron- exactly, all the reason to stay clear of the vermin.
Why don’t we ever sign ‘superkids’?
Sack the board.
HOT SMOKED on 15TH JUNE 2020 2:49 PM
“Advance SPFL payments could have been made on the basis of the minimum position each team could achieve.”
I would think that that would be very difficult to work out. Too many potential permutations.
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Not really. Start with the position that there are some teams who could finish last. There would be three or four of them maybe more.
Now look at the top. Could Celtic finish 6th, 5th, etc.. And so on.
There’s only 12 teams and a maximum of 12 places. Wouldn’t take very long at all.
BIG WAVY on 15TH JUNE 2020 6:23 PM
Why don’t we ever sign ‘superkids’?
Sack the board.
Or ‘win the race’ to sign a freed left back ,who is ‘£3 million rated’, who is ‘tipped to be the next Roberto Carlos ‘ it’s just not fair.
SS
Maybe I am looking at it wrongly but my thinking is along the lines of:
Each team has eight games left;
Team A could, therefore, win all eight or win seven and lose one or win seven and draw one and so on.
Once that has been decided, who said team lost to or drew with would have to be taken into consideration when deciding how many points THAT team ie the one who beat or drew with team A were going to be awarded as a minimum. It seems to me that it would be quite difficult.
PS Just about to watch The Planets on BBC 2.
I`ll check any reply later.
Cheerio for now.
Hot smoked
Let us know which planet sevco are on 🤔
Good evening CQN from a lovely sunny evening in the Garngad
Feck hearts I don’t even give them a capital letter, that’s how much I like them.😂
Seriously hearts can go forth and multiply a horrible Klub that had plenty of games this season to turn their fortunes around. Get them doon.
HH
D. :)
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/statues-of-king-billy-and-sir-hans-sloane-targeted-over-links-to-slavery-39285070.html
David 66
Don’t sit on the fence tell us what you really think 🤭
Bada
We are so far behind in the pre-season cup, it’s embarassing…..I think we should be competing much more in this pubescent children and old men market they seem to have covered…
We deserve better….
BIG WAVY on 15TH JUNE 2020 6:23 PM
Why don’t we ever sign ‘superkids’?
Sevco superkids don’t just ‘jet in’ , they fly in with their capes blowing in the wind behind them.
Reconstruction has been settled now it’s time to get the fixture list sorted.
We’ll see if fears of us playing a disproportionate amount of early home games (BCD) comes to fruition or not.
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Scotland players Danny McGrain, Billy Bremner and Peter Lorimer return from the 1974 World Cup in West Germany.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EafwrbnX0AAzeyZ?format=jpg&name=900×900
Bada,
surely the facts on Billy are easy to find out.
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Statues of King Billy and Sir Hans Sloane targeted over links to slavery
June 14 2020 07:30 PM
Police in Glasgow are continuing to guard a statue of William of Orange amid fears it may be targeted by activists aligned with the Black Lives Matter movement.
The statue, which has already been daubed with an anti-police slogan and the letters IRA in the last week, is deemed at risk because of claimed links between King William and the slave trade.
While it is claimed that the monarch took over the Royal African Company, which was centrally involved in the trade in the 17th century, historians say that it is not entirely true.
Following lobbying by Bristol merchants and others, in 1698 William allowed other traders to compete with the Royal African Company, which until then had a monopoly on the business of shipping slaves, mostly from Africa to the Americas.
The Crown took a portion of the profits of slave trading throughout its history until it was abolished in 1833.
Jim McHarg, grand master of the Grand Orange Lodge of Scotland, described the vandalism of the statue, first erected in 1735, as upsetting.
“King William brought liberty and took away the divine right of kings and the tyranny associated with that. It is very strange to hear he is connected with slavery. He is part of the history of Great Britain,” Mr McHarg told the Glasgow Times.
“This has come from republican and socialist people who hate everything that is unionist.”
It is a sign of the growing tension around statues and monuments, which has spread to Northern Ireland.
In a separate move, Amnesty International has called on the people of Larne to consider renaming the McGarel Town Hall because of its links to a plantation owner and slave dealer. It is named after Charles McGarel.
Patrick Corrigan from Amnesty International told Sunday Life: “He would have been one of the biggest recipients of compensation and I’m not sure there are many locally who would have been as involved in the slave trade.
“There’s an opportunity here, to think is that the message they want to send out today, are those the values we share and celebrate?”
McGarel – who lobbied strongly against the abolition of slavery in the West Indies – and his companies were paid £81,280, close to £10m in today’s money, in compensation following its ending.
Activists have also called for the replacement of a statue of Co Down-born physician Sir Hans Sloane, because he was married into a family that owned a sugar plantation in Jamaica.
The statue of Sloane stands in Knightsbridge, west London, while a copy of it was erected in his home town of Killyleagh.
A campaign is now under way to replace Sloane’s statue with a tribute to former Chelsea footballers.
DUP councillor Billy Walker described the campaign as “ridiculous”.
He said: “This man did so much for the world – he gave us the concept of free museums; he found a cure for smallpox; he pioneered science and medicine to do away with magic for treating illness; he promoted the use of quinine against malaria; he discovered milk chocolate; he was the first man to lead both Royal Colleges; he treated the poor for free.
“The list is endless. He was no slave trader.”
Online petitions have also been started calling for the removal of Irish pro-slavery advocate John Mitchel’s statue in Newry.
SS- it was the Glasgow reference which caught my eye…
HOT SMOKED on 15TH JUNE 2020 7:01 PM
SS
Maybe I am looking at it wrongly but my thinking is along the lines of:
Each team has eight games left;
Team A could, therefore, win all eight or win seven and lose one or win seven and draw one and so on.
Once that has been decided, who said team lost to or drew with would have to be taken into consideration when deciding how many points THAT team ie the one who beat or drew with team A were going to be awarded as a minimum. It seems to me that it would be quite difficult.
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My thinking is, take each team with the number of points they have now. Assume they get no more points. How many teams can over take them?
Also, there are only 3 (or 4) game until the split. By my reckoning Celtic minimum 2nd place. Rangers, Motherwell, Aberdeen minimum 6th.
Hearts, Hamilton, Ross County, St Mirren. All could finish 12th.
That’s 8 of the 12 teams sorted.
Wouldn’t take much effort to work out the other 4 but would be somewhere between 8th and 11th. Could say 11th for each of them and that’s the job done.
There is an inherent bias against black managers one way or another.
I think it’s very easy to dismiss.
David66 7:08pm
I Praise Hearts for humping the imitating club Twice when it mattered. 😁🇮🇪😁
They will go down a Division with my best wishes. At least the minis came through their Administration event.☺
According to DUP Councillor Billy Walker, among Sir Hans Sloan’s achievements was ” he discovered milk chocolate”
Wonder where that was? His local sweetie shop maybe?
RAY WINSTONE’S BIG DISEMBODIED HEID on 15TH JUNE 2020 9:02 PM
According to DUP Councillor Billy Walker, among Sir Hans Sloan’s achievements was ” he discovered milk chocolate”
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Don’t forget the cure for smallpox……..make it up as you go along :O(
And world peace
Betis v Granada on Freesports now
Celtic has set a deadline of this Friday for receipt of refund applications and we expect them to stick to that. Here is a link to our piece with a link to the refund application form.
https://t.co/11DteztPXY
VOGUEPUNTER on 15TH JUNE 2020 9:18 PM
Milk chocolate cures small pox.
What does dark chocolate cure.?????????????
Fav u
Certainly not ipox
FAVOURITE UNCLE on 15TH JUNE 2020 9:41 PM
VOGUEPUNTER on 15TH JUNE 2020
Milk chocolate cures small pox
What does dark chocolate cure.?????????????
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Trying to think of something witty ?????????
Tell me ? :O)
Gene – 😂
Petec – Good for you, I cannot praise a Klub that spews hatred of my religion and has attacked a few of our clubs staff, never will praise that shower of racist scum.
As for beating Sevco if they and others would have tried harder they could have taken more from Sevco.
HH
D. :)
Big Pox .
The Huns always look after their loyal own ‘former stand in boss Graeme Murty removed from his position as reserve team boss.’
PRESTONPANS BHOYS on 15TH JUNE 2020 11:05 PM
They’ve done him a favour.
Hearts statement:
“We cannot, and will not, sit idly by and watch the decisions made in the past few months further damage Heart of Midlothian Football Club,”
It is missing the final sentence…
“No, we must insist that we alone take the necessary steps to ensure further damage to Heart of Midlothian Football Club.”
Umbro won’t sponsor Linfield’s away kit – well done!!!
It is soon gonnae be Karamoko Time.
Excited.
Callum & Odsonne were obviously outfield standouts.
Can Neil unleash Karamoko and Jeremie with such height disadvantage.;)
no clue no interest
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2020/jun/15/permanent-secretaries-not-aware-of-any-economic-planning-for-a-pandemic
hH
Jeremie and Karamoko may well be Small…….
Looking for Massive contributions frae both these young uns as we go for 10.