Football politics, sugar on the medicine

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Football club politics is hard.  You can adopt a popular position – for example, restricting Celtic fans to 700 tickets at Ibrox, but try accounting for bad actors throwing bottles, or the public safety hazard of disrupting egress routes build up over a century.

You successfully stop 7,000 Celtic fans from having a party, no more Leigh Griffiths tying scarves to your posts, but having conceded to fans’ demands, how do you unwind your position when circumstances move on?

The source cause behind Celtic ultimately deciding there would be no visiting fans when Newco visit on 8 April happened some years ago, when Newco designated part of the Broomloan Rd side of the ground, used for a century by away fans, for their ultras group.  The ultras had to be moved to accommodate Celtic fans, which was always going to rub them up the wrong way.

Celtic were correct, the recent scenario where 700 fans were kettled into a stadium at huge public cost (policing outside of grounds is not paid for by the clubs), then had all sorts thrown at them for two hours, was untenable.  Go back to 7,000 fans, with all that means for moving ultras and Celtic parties, or have home fans only.

It would take an enormously strong Newco board to revert to 7,000 visiting fans, something they have never had and are very unlikely to have any time (generation) soon.  Gone are the days when a David Murray-type would tell them what they needed to know at Ibrox, and they would lap it up/pay their bond to confirm a right to buy a season ticket, without complaint.

The only scenario that I see changing things is when Newco season ticket sales drop so far they can free-up space in another stand and locate their ultras there, perhaps with the promise of safe standing, as a sprinkling of sugar on the medicine.  So maybe not that long.

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  1. Weebobbycollins on

    I was never a fan of JHB…even though I don’t support the SNP, his anti-Nat rantings really annoyed me. The blog became a better place for his departure. There are one or two whose posts sometimes annoy me rather than the posters themselves but I think that is quite normal. There will always be a Mr Angry and a Mr Negative that is part and parcel of the blog, however, I think the need for a monitor is very rare occurrence on here, that’s why I dispute the suggestion ‘he has a tough job’. Our present monitor seems like a decent guy and regularly joins in the posting. Still, deleting the occasional post from KevJ is neither tough nor do I believe always necessary.

  2. BACK TO BASICS – GLASS HALF FULL on 23RD MARCH 2023 12:54 PM

     

    SAINT STIVS on 23RD MARCH 2023 12:41 PM

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Celtic park under reconstruction 1994.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    https://twitter.com/ordinarybhoy/status/1638516968872464384/photo/1

     

     

     

     

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    Saint Stivs – cheers.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Happy memories.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Many a Friday afternoon I would take a detour from my drive home from work ….

     

     

     

     

     

     

    … just to stare at an ⅛, ¼, ½ built stand and get excited about the future.

     

     

     

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    I did the same,

  3. Wbc

     

     

    You waitin to see if his ticket price goes up from £49 to £53 tae? :-)))))

     

     

    HH

  4. BACK TO BASICS – GLASS HALF FULL on 23RD MARCH 2023 12:54 PM

     

    SAINT STIVS on 23RD MARCH 2023 12:41 PM

     

     

     

    Celtic park under reconstruction 1994.

     

     

     

    https://twitter.com/ordinarybhoy/status/1638516968872464384/photo/1

     

     

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    Saint Stivs – cheers.

     

     

     

    Happy memories.

     

     

     

    Many a Friday afternoon I would take a detour from my drive home from work ….

     

     

     

    … just to stare at an ⅛, ¼, ½ built stand and get excited about the future.

     

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    Happy memories. I used to do that too and then come home and tell my wife who would laugh at the daftness of it. I must have gone along about 10 times. The workers would let us go into the area of what has become the Lisbon Lions Stand where I would note the grass of the new pitch growing and thickening with each visit and stare in awe at the concrete sections that would grow higher and higher and try with those other 20 or so supporters dotted around the area gazing in contemplative, stony silence like the statues on Easter Island at the magnificence that was ever so slowly unfolding in front of us. No one seemed to move or speak incase we broke the spell. What a magnificent stadium it turned out to be but I think those who were privileged enough to make those visits and witness the construction got a little extra pleasure.

     

     

    Happy, happy days.

  5. AT,

     

     

    The names of those who no longer post on here is as long as your arm..

     

    Check the blog circa 2 to 5 years ago to see the list. It is self explanatory .

     

     

    You devalue the word racist. You use it far too casually. Are all the Scots who voted Brexit racist ? Obviously not. Remember more Scots voted for Brexit than who voted for the SNP. Many voted both.

     

     

    To be perfectly honest, the only racism I see on here is ocassionally anti English racism. Or does that not count ? Not banter, but racism.

     

    Does only certain racism merit rebuke. ?

     

     

    This blog does not resemble the MET police in any form. Tell me any racists on this blog,, then provide rationale. I am truly intregated.

     

     

    I prefer using the analogy of equality. Even human rights must be guided by equality.

     

     

    This is the most diverse Westminster government ever., should they not be called out for being wrong and inept. ?

     

     

    As for so called conspiracy theories and misgovernment. Yes, I believe in both..

     

     

    It is crazy not to question our ” leaders ” and so called experts. In football and beyond they must be questioned.

     

     

    Yes I think certain neasures were more about control and I believe the elites were economical with the science and the truth.. it is unravelling as we speak.

     

     

    HH.

  6. Gp

     

    I prob see the same amount of tims of here as i did in the early days,various diff reasons why they opt not to come on,there is still a great community out there of Celts,doing different things.The ones i see it could be anything,family,life in gen,and maybe how cqn is viewed and what is it saying/direction of travel/comment/on behalf of.

     

     

    No devaluation of the word in the context of that poster.bang on.Thatll be expanded on when we have a pint.

     

    Brexit- taking back control of what Gp?

     

    Brexit is racism.the illusionary language of Goebbals,or unionspeak as your fellow ‘patriots’ in the Tory arse cheek say ,in this new post Brexit world of “illegal humans” and “processed people” Labour back it! As you point out so do snp folk.disnae matter- they voted a policy that asserts theunions supremacy.The language of Brexit and everything bout it is about the same civilizing force that gave us genocide in ireland and is doin a not bad job on our poorest weakest ànd neediest,protecting the rich,doin over the poor.

     

     

    They are long gone.i did not comment on the met.

     

     

    Re equality-Gp your talking of Bravermam in govt ,rwanda etc in the same breath as Human rights.a contestation of humanrights is coming, equality whatll that mean?it is the most right wing govt Gp,that wont change wi your mob.

     

     

    Always call out whichever govt is in power.that is our job.as you know that includes your own party.why would i disagree with any questioning of any leader.they all squirm

     

     

    Post away whatever you wish Gp,even so called conspiracy, fire a link.thats all am sayin.lets make our own minds up after reading say bout 15min citys.

     

     

    Misgoverning is a fact Gp,regardless of who is in power,errors there that are bonafide facts,we live with the historical effects. but conspiracy theories are just that,a contention/view to discuss pertaining to fact,to be proved/disproved.again all i say is post a link.

     

    So when wee jason goes protecting his own elites i can follow what your talking of.even a mention of whit paper

     

     

    You be good and give your union fleg a wee sook and reply here :-))

     

     

    HH

  7. He had some fine games, including in a 3-0 victory over St Mirren with one paper commenting positively on his performance:

     

     

    “A slip of a lad called Mark Smith stole the show at Parkhead”.

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