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Football’s hard, Armstrong, McNeill v Greig

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Last week I suggested we were better with yesterday’s game over and done with, but I have to admit to thoroughly enjoying the occasion.  It may not have been the derby of Old, but it had traces of familiarity from my youth, when managers Billy McNeill and John Greig faced each other.

I watched the game back on television last night.  What an absolute pair of trumpets Warburton and Weir are!  Weir was sent to the stand for demanding Mikael Lustig receive a second yellow card, despite not receiving his first.  Warburton then explained this to the media, indignant that Lustig wasn’t dismissed for two yellows, still totally oblivious to the fact he hadn’t been booked.

Football’s hard.  Referees make mistakes.  But keeping track of who has been booked is remarkably simple.  It was Nir Bitton, not Mikael, who was booked early in the game.  Nir and Mikael have a similar, slight, build, but there’s 7cm between them, with different skin and hair pantones.

What does this tell us?  That the Newco management didn’t know their opponents well enough to tell them apart, never mind how they would play.  Remarkable, considering how often we’ve been on television this season.

Two weeks ago a Dundee United fan asked me what we’d done to Stuart Armstrong and Gary Mackay-Steven.  Armstrong, he explained, was never going to make it as a wide player, he was effective for United through the middle.

I think we suffered for the loss of Tom Rogic, as Stuart edged himself into the occasion, but it may be Ronny Deila deployed him incorrectly.

Moments to cherish from the game: Moussa Dembele’s first touch to control Lustig’s cross at the fourth, and his reverse pass for Scott Sinclair at the third.  You’ve not seen control and awareness like that from a Celtic striker in over a decade.

We’ll touch on the longer-term issues of yesterday at a later date, after we’ve got Barcelona out of our system.

The one thing we all wanted from yesterday was to come through the game without further injuries.  Both Scott Brown and Tom Rogic, two of our central midfield three, retired early.  I’m not going to tell you we’ll take anything from Barcelona on Tuesday, but having Brown, Rogic and Bitton in the team will allow us to at least face the game in decent condition.

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  1. Good morning. If you haven’t completed the consultation survey on the repeal of the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act please click this link and complete it now. If you are unsure about what to write, this crib sheet will help. Remember you are agreeing that the act should be repealed. Also remember to click Complete Survey at the end or your views won’t be included!

     

     

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  2. TURKEYBHOY on 10TH SEPTEMBER 2016 4:46 PM

     

    I hope,but I know it wont,that the display from Broony and Biton today will shut a few people up.

     

     

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    Spot on pal .i was definately one who called for the two never to play together again . But fair play they had a great game on saturday .

     

    With regards to the magic hat .cant understand giving up a big money career in the city to , take over that car crash . Strange one .

  3. Dilemma.

     

    How do I say that an issue is being given too much publicity without adding to the publicity?

     

    JJ

  4. TD67 poor poor choice of a windup. Embarrassment from one or two diddys. Let us down , gave them the chance to say bad as each other. The stewards sorted it quickly from what I read but done is done, black stain on the high standing of Celtic supporters.

  5. TAURANGABHOY on 12TH SEPTEMBER 2016 9:09 AM

     

     

    There was a poster on here yesterday trying to justify the behaviour. Described it as a laugh.

  6. Their latest accusation that we done the huddle on the 66th minute to mock the Ibrox disaster dead, is pathetic.

     

    ” The clock clearly shows 66minutes”

     

     

    That’ll be the 67th minute then!

     

     

    ” they all stooped down in the 65th minute and went silent then erupted in the 66th minute”

     

     

    No we didn’t.

     

     

    If this accusation gathers pace I hope that someone within the supporters clubs association responds to dispel the lies.

     

     

    Actually , the accuser that started this nonsense is doing more to disrespect the dead than anyone by trying to apply this lie.

     

     

    Shameful.

     

     

    To be fair, there are a few beats putting him straight on it, but many more buying into it.

  7. SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 12TH SEPTEMBER 2016 8:41 AM

     

    TOSB

     

     

     

    Just as I mastered the trick of walking and chewing gum at the same time, I find it possible to really enjoy our victory at the weekend and yet still think the hanging effigies were thoughtless and conveyed a message I hope it did not attend.

     

     

     

    I can also still have concerns about my club’s position about 2012 and have anxieties about tomorrow’s game and still be delighted about our 3 points and the manner of our victory.

     

     

     

    I don’t believe I can be uber-Celticed in my delight at the three points by anyone who chose not to comment or anyone whose only comment was to criticise those who criticised the display.

     

     

     

    Having said that, I do find it distasteful for any Celtic fan to harbour thoughts that this had anything to do with Kris Boyd’s brother. That IS a leap that is not justified.

     

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    Good for you!

     

     

    I think people have possibly leapt to the wrong conclusion. Kris Boyd no longer plays for Rangers. I don’t think their is any link between the tragedy of Kris’s brother’s very sad death and the display from some fans. Very distasteful but I’m not going to do any hand wringing or get my knickers in a twist over it. The only story of the weekend was that Celtic thrashed Sevco. Anything else is a smokescreen which detracts from that fact. As someone is wont to repeat on here you are doing Level 5 ‘s work for them.

  8. Regarding the hanging dolls and “This is War” banner, just a couple of points.

     

     

    Firstly, it was in poor, poor taste and shouldn’t be condoned; that’s my starting point.

     

     

    However, the faux/mock outrage at this being some jibe around suicide is wrong; suicide victims don’t tend to have their hands tied behind their back, so we can rule that one out; we can also rule out the notion that it was some thinly veiled reference to the tragic suicide of Kris Boyd’s brother.

     

     

    My interpretation was that it was a feeble allusion to the death of Rangers Football Club in 2012, nothing more.

     

     

    Before I moved to the North Curve this season, I had seats just round from the wee singing crew who I assume (rightly or wrongly) pulled this stunt; they are, in their own way, trying to emulate/outdo the Green Brigade and don’t seem to have the same level of ingenuity, wit or humour to pull it off.

     

     

    So we can, IMHO, safely move on. It was crass, stupid, ill-advised, tasteless and any other number of adjectives you want to throw at it. It wasn’t as offensive as the paedophile banner displayed at Hampden last season or the image of the entire Rangers playing squad and management team consorting with UVF supporting musicians last week.

     

     

    AS BMCUWP said earlier, we’ve all done stupid things in the past; hopefully they learn from it and we don’t see the same bawbaggery again!

     

     

    FAC the Act

     

     

    KTF

  9. traditionalist88 on

    A stupid and bizarre attempt at a wind up, did no one ask any questions at the turnstiles?!

     

     

    HH

  10. HOT SMOKED on 12TH SEPTEMBER 2016 9:09 AM

     

    Dilemma.

     

     

    How do I say that an issue is being given too much publicity without adding to the publicity?

     

     

    JJ

     

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    Yes it’s a conundrum. I won’t be posting any more on the matter. From above I see their propaganda machine is in full force with the 66th minute huddle rubbish. I certainly won’t be doing their work for them. I’ll leave that to others. We should still be talking about how Brendan and the Celts put the Huns back in their box. The fans didn’t let them forget either.

  11. Trad 88

     

    ” did no one ask any questions at the turnstiles?!”

     

     

    No questions but one old fella was heard to remark , that , ” Ah widnae wear that scarf in this section, doll.”

     

     

    JJ

  12. TOSB

     

     

    “As someone is wont to repeat on here you are doing Level 5 ‘s work for them.”

     

     

    I disagree vehemently.

     

     

    Ignoring when we let our standards down is doing Level 5s work for them. I have a sense of perspective about the hanging effigies, I hope, but choosing to express my distaste and disassociating myself from the action- not in my name- is very much the opposite of aligning with Level 5.

     

     

    They want us to defend, deflect and deny our wrongdoings so they can paint us in the same way as the other side. Their club died because too many of them believed that line about any criticism of the club is just damaging and only helpful to its enemies. That is a blinkered outlook.

     

     

    Just as our Board, manager and team can, on occasions, get it wrong, so can elements of our support.

     

     

    I am still delighted about the 3 points and I can separate out those feelings.

     

     

    Anyway, traveling now- have to go.

  13. traditionalist88 on

    Some day though, and what composure from Dembele throughout.

     

     

    Fell less apprehensive about tomorrow, seeing our players want the ball and confidence bursting out every one of them.

     

     

    Its still Barcelona in the Nou Camp though, if they score great goals and beat us fair enough,as long as we don’t assist them with poor ball retention and unforced errors which have been a feature in European away games for too long.

     

     

    Bring them on!

     

     

    HH

  14. The problem with these types of attempt at humour is the reporting and interpretation of it.

     

    I was approached at work immediately this morning by a Villa fan telling me the ‘Kris Boyd’s brother’ thing was OTT.

     

    My response to him was probably also a bit OTT, but I’m sure he will think twice in future before making such an association.

     

    As I say though, the reporting of this stuff does us no favours

  15. Can’t wait now for tomorrow nights game. My confidence in Brendan is growing with each passing game. We are untouchable domestically although we will have a bad day or two and drop a couple of points here or there. I can see us going unbeaten this season domestically.

     

     

    I want to see improvement in Europe now. As I said last night, I don’t think we’ll win but I want a win and I’ll likely back a win and a draw with the odds the bookies are giving us. Nothing is impossible.

     

     

    I don’t think Barca fear us bit it was good to see them rest a couple of their stars last night. Back handed compliment and respect from them that their manager felt that was required to have their stars rest up for our match.

     

     

    Fingers crossed.

     

     

    MWD

  16. To finish second in the League:

     

     

    8/13 Rangers (sic)

     

    10/3 Aberdeen

     

    10/3 Hearts

     

    50/1 Dundee

     

    50/1 St Johnstone

     

    66/1 Motherwell

     

    80/1 Hamilton

     

    80/1 Inverness

     

    100/1 Ross County

     

    150/1 Kilmarnock

     

    200/1 Partick

     

     

    Maybe there should be a bet for Sevco just ` To finish in the League ` !

  17. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    For the first time in a long time we have the opportunity to test ourselves against the best in Europe.

     

    I`ll be comfortable with anything but humiliation.

     

    Our show is on the road and it will be derailed at some point , but will be invaluable experience for our players ,some of whom have only recently been introduced to each other.

     

    This will be , in all probability , merely the preparation for a reasonable attempt to compete properly , next season.

     

    With any luck , European football after Christmas.

     

    Anything else is a bonus.

     

     

    OR Brendan is a genius.

  18. traditionalist88 on

    Hot Smoked on 12th September 2016 9:33 am

     

     

    20 each on Hertz and Aberdeen and still be in profit I’d say :)

     

     

    HH

  19. You have ask ,the media in this country,The Billy Boys getting belted out at every game ,nothing said on the media,but as soon a couple of Celtic eejits,supporters,hang a couple of blown up dolls with Sevco scarfs I find to be very offensive, then the media,come out with the usual tripe,one is as bad another,I don’t buy that,they the press don’t have the balls to really tell us that the culprits are the sevco,ones,when you work with them ,which over the years I have,they are a bunch of two faced people,and very bitter,so Celtic supporters get a grip,don’t be like them,we are a lot better than them,as for the media,we know were there Sympathy’s lay,as for our club they have over a lot of years,print damaging,lies,and yet our board stood by and done nothing,I thing we need a strong leader to stand up to this shower,Daily Ranger ,The Hun,Billy Boys Corporation, and Sky,which is full of Hun Supporters,them 4 from Northern Ireland for starters,White,Souness,McQueen,McCann,McDougall,Wilson,and Walker,Nicholas,who might as well be huns,because they never have a good word to say about Celtic

  20. CultsBhoy - sees right through Lawwell and the Board on

    The Board should initiate an investigation and identify those responsible for this moronic act.

     

    A ban is in order perhaps not for life but a couple of seasons at least.

  21. saltires en sevilla on

    Still delighted with the hunskelpin’

     

     

    Different arse different skelper – same jpleasure ….fnaaaarrr

     

     

    Notice that our usual sarcastic p@sh from croydon is on right away with the negative crap after the game

     

     

    Not a single word about the quality of the play, the skill of our hattrick hero etc., etc

     

     

    Just his usual level 5 guff, been at it for 8 or 9 years on here

     

     

    Never a Celtic fan

     

     

    A good few Celts took 5-1 or -2 and rewarde with a sizeable chunk of dosh from the bookies salted away to purchase more money next time – if they ever make it to next time…

     

     

     

    How do you like them aipples?

  22. Trad

     

    Along the lines of my thinking, too but I am too impatient to wait a year for my winnings 0:-)

     

     

    JJ

  23. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    CULTSBHOY

     

     

    That’s OTT. Punishment should be balanced and proportionate.

     

     

    At the risk of being flippant,maybe being forced to watch the huns every week is the answer. It’ll certainly teach them the error of their ways.

     

     

    Seriously-a ban for that? Naw. If identified,the club should contact them wrt future behaviour.

     

     

    I reckon the miscreants know they’ve done wrong. Restitution is down to their conscience.

  24. “Barton is all hat and no cattle.” from johnjamessite ;))

     

     

    Ironic that on Saturday,going by Sevco’s performance,FrankenSTRUTH seemed to be all cattle and no (magic) hat.