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Football’s hard, Armstrong, McNeill v Greig

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Last week I suggested we were better with yesterday’s game over and done with, but I have to admit to thoroughly enjoying the occasion.  It may not have been the derby of Old, but it had traces of familiarity from my youth, when managers Billy McNeill and John Greig faced each other.

I watched the game back on television last night.  What an absolute pair of trumpets Warburton and Weir are!  Weir was sent to the stand for demanding Mikael Lustig receive a second yellow card, despite not receiving his first.  Warburton then explained this to the media, indignant that Lustig wasn’t dismissed for two yellows, still totally oblivious to the fact he hadn’t been booked.

Football’s hard.  Referees make mistakes.  But keeping track of who has been booked is remarkably simple.  It was Nir Bitton, not Mikael, who was booked early in the game.  Nir and Mikael have a similar, slight, build, but there’s 7cm between them, with different skin and hair pantones.

What does this tell us?  That the Newco management didn’t know their opponents well enough to tell them apart, never mind how they would play.  Remarkable, considering how often we’ve been on television this season.

Two weeks ago a Dundee United fan asked me what we’d done to Stuart Armstrong and Gary Mackay-Steven.  Armstrong, he explained, was never going to make it as a wide player, he was effective for United through the middle.

I think we suffered for the loss of Tom Rogic, as Stuart edged himself into the occasion, but it may be Ronny Deila deployed him incorrectly.

Moments to cherish from the game: Moussa Dembele’s first touch to control Lustig’s cross at the fourth, and his reverse pass for Scott Sinclair at the third.  You’ve not seen control and awareness like that from a Celtic striker in over a decade.

We’ll touch on the longer-term issues of yesterday at a later date, after we’ve got Barcelona out of our system.

The one thing we all wanted from yesterday was to come through the game without further injuries.  Both Scott Brown and Tom Rogic, two of our central midfield three, retired early.  I’m not going to tell you we’ll take anything from Barcelona on Tuesday, but having Brown, Rogic and Bitton in the team will allow us to at least face the game in decent condition.

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  1. traditionalist88 on

    Hot Smoked on 12th September 2016 9:47 am

     

     

    Tell me about it, have Celtic and Juve to win titles and Newcastle to get promoted, at about 3/1 … sooner the better! Could have added Man City and Hibs to win titles to bring it to 19/1… ah well!

     

     

    HH

  2. GivehimthemoneyPeterCSC on

    Is there any truth that the rangers fans were told that there were sex dolls in the toilet ceilings at Celtic park?

     

     

    Worst banner i remember is “Desmond Whyte su***

     

    C**** in hell” the jungle all moved at once that day…amazed at the barriers holding

  3. Couple of points on the distractions from Saturday’s performance.

     

     

    Have the people behind the two dummies stunt been identified?

     

    Have they provided an explanation on what the stunt meant and what they were trying to say?

     

     

    For the record I found the whole episode disgusting. It reminded me of the stunts the Police Federation mentalists pulled off when somebody came to their conference and had something critical to say. Whoever did that should be ashamed of themselves — I just hope they do not have short hair, own a van and write up the minutes for their local supporters club.

     

     

    GB — I think that mob are in the Running for Small Business of the year.

     

    How many trademarks do they need to flog t-shirts? North Curve — get a grip.

     

     

    Everything they say and do currently just reinforces my view that they are an elitist group of uber fans majoring on look at me self publicity.

     

     

    The main point is they do not understand progressive politics and the founding ethos of the club — let them eat slogans sounds great in St Al’s 6th year common room but it doesn’t cut it in the real world.

     

     

    Finally the banner and the t shirts was crap — Neo militaristic tripe — all that was missing was the balaclavas and the goose stepping march into the ground.

     

     

    Yet the wallopers that organised want the kudos of being first in the UK for dressing up in bin bags — they should ask their parents about “Punk Rock @ 1976” for a bit of history.

  4. SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 12TH SEPTEMBER 2016 9:26 AM

     

    TOSB

     

     

     

    “As someone is wont to repeat on here you are doing Level 5 ‘s work for them.”

     

     

     

    I disagree vehemently.

     

     

     

    Ignoring when we let our standards down is doing Level 5s work for them. I have a sense of perspective about the hanging effigies, I hope, but choosing to express my distaste and disassociating myself from the action- not in my name- is very much the opposite of aligning with Level 5.

     

     

     

    They want us to defend, deflect and deny our wrongdoings so they can paint us in the same way as the other side. Their club died because too many of them believed that line about any criticism of the club is just damaging and only helpful to its enemies. That is a blinkered outlook.

     

     

     

    Just as our Board, manager and team can, on occasions, get it wrong, so can elements of our support.

     

     

     

    I am still delighted about the 3 points and I can separate out those feelings.

     

     

     

    Anyway, traveling now- have to go.

     

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    If you say so. I’m still celebrating Moussa’s second goal.

  5. CULTSBHOY – SEES RIGHT THROUGH LAWWELL AND THE BOARD on 12TH SEPTEMBER 2016 9:59 AM

     

    ‘A 2 season ban for damaging Celtic supporters reputation’

     

     

     

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    Or a quite word with a couple of the guys from the Éire Go Brách CSC.

  6. saltires en sevilla on

    When the day is long

     

     

    When the nights are dim;

     

     

    Ye can hum a wee song

     

     

    And ye can muster a grin.

     

     

    Count all the dosh, yer about tae get

     

     

    Praise Sevco and yer bookie, and the -2 bet!!

  7. WWW(GBWO) on 12TH SEPTEMBER 2016 10:05 AM

     

     

    The horse is two years old. I assume therefore the name is inspired by this rather than anything else.

     

     

    What does it profit him

     

    The right to be born

     

    If he suffers the loss of liberty

     

    Laws were made for people

     

    And the law can never scorn

     

    The right of a man to be free

     

    We are the people

     

    And we shall overcome

     

    We are the people

     

    And we shall overcome

  8. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    Morning Bhoys from a dry Central Scotland well the real big game is nearly upon us this is what all the grafting and the nerves were about during the qualifying matches.The Bhoys have earned the right to be on the same field as Barcelona and although it will be very difficult they should enjoy the occassion. I have no idea how Brendan will set the team up but we will need to be a bit more solid at the back if we are to have any chance of coming away with anything. H.H.

  9. Mad Mitch

     

     

    Have you taken your happy pill this morning?

     

     

    The Green Brigade are one of the best things to have happened to Celtic. They occasionally get it wrong but do a lot more to entertain and liven up the Celtic Park match day experience and our Board know it or else the GB would have been closed down ages ago. The only thing I found a bit wrong about their banner on Saturday was the words “Hun scum” If they had replaced it with “Know your place Sevco”, I think it would have been better.

     

     

    Nothing wrong with any of their other banners as far as I’m concerned. We’ve had to listen to McCoist and a whole lot of others from their side issuing veiled threats and mumbling about “we have long memories” and “we have suffered enough”, “we were put into the third division”. Well now their supporters are back and every team in Scotland’s supporters are waiting on them to let them know that their team aren’t finished with the suffering and we have even longer memories (and evidently better memories than they have) about the exact nature of what transpired in 2012 and since. Not to forget their EBT inspired title winning either.

  10. Celtic 5 – Sevco 1…’mon we’ll slag the Green Brigade and advise them on how they should behave because being the erudite and morally upstanding genius Celtic fans we know best and are better than them and their idiotic faux rebel uneducated yoofs that they are and never mind the football because it’s that GB who are all wee daft fannies and they know nothing and they embarrass us and all real experienced expert Celtic fans who know so much we spend most of our time having a go at them rather than spending our energy on real issues like putting the world to rights and letting everybody know all Celtic fans should be like us and not like the Green Brigade who only add colour and noise and actually attend games and have their own opinions and faults unlike us who have lived a bit longer and know all the answers and are better than them blah blah blah blah blah…

     

     

    There’s fans of other clubs who actually despise us out there,why not spend energy on decrying them rather than carrying out your roles as the Celtic morality police.

     

     

    LETHEWHOISWITHOUTSINcsc

  11. T88

     

     

    Loving the football from Saturday.

     

    It was an 80 – 20 game with the good guys getting what they deserved.

     

     

    They had a few moments where they played well but we really bossed the game.

     

     

    At one point I thought it was pretty even in the first half but then realised game was getting played on their 18 yard line so even when they played well they had to.

     

     

    Loved the contrast regarding beating your man / making something happen.

     

     

    JF — was working 2 yards away from his opponent.

     

    PR — was working 1 yard away.

     

    TR — was working 1 foot away and the only way they could stop him was by fouling him.

  12. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    BABASONICOS

     

     

    I was a bit breathless after reading your first paragraph(!) but,aye,nailed it.

     

     

    When did scum become a proscribed word?

     

     

    They’re up to their knees in destroyed toilet blocks,debt,many other things and we’re beating ourselves up about bad taste?

     

     

    Ffs,I know that we like to hold the moral high ground but I didn’t realise everything had to be passed by a board of censors first.

     

     

    Staffed by the seeking-to-be-offended.

  13. Captain B

     

    I think I would go with ` quite funny` but I will bow to you superior taste. Brilliant it is . 0:-)

     

     

    JJ

  14. MadMitch on 12th September 2016 9:58 am

     

     

    Couple of points on the distractions from Saturday’s performance.

     

     

    Have the people behind the two dummies stunt been identified?

     

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    Yes; Warbuton and Weir sanctioned the signings of Krancjar and Senderos.

     

     

    FAC the Act

     

     

    KTF

  15. While I’m looking forward to the Barca game tomorrow night, I’m still not ready yet to file Saturday’s victory away in the back of my mind. I’m still enjoying the jokes and barbs aimed at Warbiola, his team and Joseph Anthony and I’m definitely going to watch the game again tonight!

     

     

    However, with regard to Barca.

     

     

    I don’t think we are capable of parking the bus. We are set up to attack.

     

     

    One part of me fears a humping and I can see myself hiding behind a cushion.

     

    Another part of me thinks if we can get service to Sinclair, he and Moussa could cause them some problems.

     

     

    I think the outcome will depend on Senors Messi, Suarez, Iniesta and that Wee rascal Neymar and how they play. Let’s hope they have an off night.

     

     

    At any rate, we are in the Champions League. Mission accomplished.

     

     

    I hope all Tims attending, especially my brother-in-law and his family have a smashing night.

     

     

    Hail! Hail!

  16. HOT SMOKED on 12TH SEPTEMBER 2016 10:30 AM

     

    ernie lynch

     

     

    Did the horse have its current (!) name two years ago?

     

     

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    No idea. I know even less about horses than I do about football. Are the owners allowed to change the names of the horses?

     

     

    Wherever the name came from it’s a potential source of embarrassment for Joseph Anthony.

  17. TOSB @ 10.20

     

     

    The GB go against the roots of the club.

     

    They are elitist uber fans who are now selling themselves as a club within a club.

     

     

    They do not make the atmosphere in CP — they hi-jack it.

     

    What makes CP special is that everyone can and will join in if the situation demands it.

     

     

    1-1 and 5 minutes to go — it is not the GB lifting the team it is the noise of everyone joining in.

  18. Captain Beefheart on

    I would never support appointing someone only on the basis of their nationality but BR, like MO’N and NL, in my opinion, has advantages that men such as Ronny didn’t have. BR’s connections with Celtic ensure that he is aware of the size and pressure of Celtic.

     

     

    Really impressed with BR’s impact.

  19. patmcgrathtakesapenalty on

    Meanwhile south of the border a short time on Saturday after the slaughter in Glasgow…

     

     

    Cleator Moor Celtic FC 4 Gateshead Leam Rangers FC 0

  20. VFR @ 10.35

     

     

    That may be a joke to you but it is not to me.

     

    That stunt shamed the club, the support and the ground.

     

    It will be googled from now until eternity.

     

     

    If the TFOD2 “support” had done it this place would have been in melt down.

     

    Unfortunately we have our own zoomers to contend with.

     

    The TFOD2 have twice as many and twice as stupid but we have our own.

  21. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    HOTSMOKED

     

     

    I think the horse need only be named when it is registered with Wetherbys

     

     

    This will be just prior to being entered for its first race.

     

     

    Which was after Barton took the dark pound.

  22. traditionalist88 on

    MM

     

     

    I thought they had equalised when Mckays shot flew about an inch wide.

     

     

    The problem is, the GB are needed, because before it was just too quiet, too often. The fact there is a dedicate standing section makes it less contrived than before, IMO.

     

     

    Modern stadia are such that its hard to maintain anything but an eerie silence without dedicated chanters.

     

     

    As pointed out above, occasionally they get it wrong but by and large they are incredible and have come up with some brilliant chants and resurrected old chants.

     

     

    Whoever thought they’d hear the World Club Championship song etc ringing out at CP!

     

     

    HH

  23. BOBBY…

     

    It just feels like we can’t enjoy anything anymore but have to pick a negative to focus on.And so much of the griping seems to be aimed at each other.

     

    When I was younger and we beat the huns my mates and me would be in party mode until whoever we played next.Lucky if we now get minutes after a game before someone has to find a bone to pick within our own.

     

    It saddens me.

     

    Anywho,a hun pumping starter and a main of Barca in the CL,bring it on.

     

     

    HH

  24. ernie and Bobby

     

    Thank you both. I had a Google myself after asking the question. It would seem reasonable to assume that Joey bought the horse because of its name . Why it was so called originally I haven`t got a clue.

     

    Cheerio for now,

     

    JJ

  25. T88 @ 10.42

     

     

    I think most of their good played showed that we are a Wee bit brittle in the FB positions.

     

    Some of that is down to MF support tracking back, some is down to the players in the positions.

     

     

    BMcK seemed to have an acre of space to get the shot away.

     

    Not watched it detail to work out our shape but we got done in that move.

     

     

    If they had scored we would still have got 5.

  26. VFR @ 10:35am

     

     

    hahahahaha!

     

     

    Liked that one my mhan!

     

     

    Still walking about with a gargantuan grin. Their pain was my hangover medicine yesterday.

     

     

    Now bring on the Barca!

     

     

    HAIL! HAIL!

     

    Token

  27. Baba @ 10.42

     

     

    It is called growing up.

     

    Happens to us all and you are not alone in finding out the difference hard to handle.

  28. P67 on 5live talking about safe standing .

     

    Manages to mention in the first five seconds celebrating five times on Saturday , ha ha ha ha ha.

  29. BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 12TH SEPTEMBER 2016 10:33 AM

     

    BABASONICOS

     

     

     

    I was a bit breathless after reading your first paragraph(!) but,aye,nailed it.

     

     

     

    When did scum become a proscribed word?

     

     

     

    They’re up to their knees in destroyed toilet blocks,debt,many other things and we’re beating ourselves up about bad taste?

     

     

     

    Ffs,I know that we like to hold the moral high ground but I didn’t realise everything had to be passed by a board of censors first.

     

     

     

    Staffed by the seeking-to-be-offended.

     

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    I’m with you 100% Bobby.

     

     

    I personally don’t like the use of the word ‘scum’ to describe human beings (I know, I know).

     

     

    From what I can gather, you’ve been living down south for a few decades. I don’t know if you were in Scotland or visited much in the 80’s, 90,s but there was a group up here at the time – the Scottish Loyalists – I think they were called. They referred to us, Catholics of Irish descent, Celtic supporters as ‘scum’. They were given a lot of publicity at the time in the media. I remember watching a BBC documentary on them. It showed them going into a meeting in John Street School. Their main speaker ( who looked an ordinary, respectable guy of a mature age) lamented that they (Scottish Protestants) had become a sick people and relied on the scum to run their lives for them. He cited people like Michael Kelly as Lord Provost and Paddy (his word) Hamill, Chief Superintendant of Police. They continually referred to us as scum. I hated it and would never now use the word to describe anyone no matter how much I might despise them.