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Last week I suggested we were better with yesterday’s game over and done with, but I have to admit to thoroughly enjoying the occasion.  It may not have been the derby of Old, but it had traces of familiarity from my youth, when managers Billy McNeill and John Greig faced each other.

I watched the game back on television last night.  What an absolute pair of trumpets Warburton and Weir are!  Weir was sent to the stand for demanding Mikael Lustig receive a second yellow card, despite not receiving his first.  Warburton then explained this to the media, indignant that Lustig wasn’t dismissed for two yellows, still totally oblivious to the fact he hadn’t been booked.

Football’s hard.  Referees make mistakes.  But keeping track of who has been booked is remarkably simple.  It was Nir Bitton, not Mikael, who was booked early in the game.  Nir and Mikael have a similar, slight, build, but there’s 7cm between them, with different skin and hair pantones.

What does this tell us?  That the Newco management didn’t know their opponents well enough to tell them apart, never mind how they would play.  Remarkable, considering how often we’ve been on television this season.

Two weeks ago a Dundee United fan asked me what we’d done to Stuart Armstrong and Gary Mackay-Steven.  Armstrong, he explained, was never going to make it as a wide player, he was effective for United through the middle.

I think we suffered for the loss of Tom Rogic, as Stuart edged himself into the occasion, but it may be Ronny Deila deployed him incorrectly.

Moments to cherish from the game: Moussa Dembele’s first touch to control Lustig’s cross at the fourth, and his reverse pass for Scott Sinclair at the third.  You’ve not seen control and awareness like that from a Celtic striker in over a decade.

We’ll touch on the longer-term issues of yesterday at a later date, after we’ve got Barcelona out of our system.

The one thing we all wanted from yesterday was to come through the game without further injuries.  Both Scott Brown and Tom Rogic, two of our central midfield three, retired early.  I’m not going to tell you we’ll take anything from Barcelona on Tuesday, but having Brown, Rogic and Bitton in the team will allow us to at least face the game in decent condition.

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  1. MWD

     

     

    Not at all, read back,

     

     

    Proudbhoy, Corkcelt & myself condemned every bit of it, people who lose family members will always be in my prayers and I don’t care what team they supported, your on the wrong track here mate, through personal things I have grew up with… Sometimes a blog is a blog but dont presume

  2. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    I hope the cretins who thought it would be a jolly wheeze to produce those inflatable obscenities have enough of Celt in them to hold their hands up and admit their shame.

     

     

    I won’t hold my breath. The Impunity Crew accept no responsibility for blackening our name.

     

     

    SFTB,

     

     

    Your attempt to obfuscate does you no favours. If you have to look for an obscure allegoric reason behind this action, then ,surely the whole purpose of it has failed.

  3. Brendan, Brendan,……Brendan.

     

    Seems that there are a million things to thank you for, probably more.

     

    Let me be specific though.

     

    Brendan, I thank you for being the Celtic-cute manager that I’ve been pining for who would, unleash the magical player that resides inside young James Forrest.

     

    Indeed, I think that JF will go on to be Celtic’s Arren Robben.

     

    Indeed, further still, I think it will be a toss-up to see who’ll be Scottish football’s 1st £30 million player between, JF and Super-Moussa.

     

    Also Brendan, afore I go, can I ask if you’ll put a word into the marketing dept at CP, and ask them to stock – Super Mousse in the haulf-time-tuc-shop’s ?

     

    The Jungle is reborn on the Curve – CSC.

     

    Magical.

     

    ….off-oot…..

  4. Gerryfraethebrig

     

     

    For a variety of reasons this has been the happiest weekend I have had in many years and I am damned if a couple of dafties can spoil it for me.

     

     

     

    Jim

  5. GFTB

     

     

    I have had a split mind on whether to attend yesterday since thems got promoted. I am so glad I went to the match now. It was highly enjoyable and some of the best fun I have had at the fitba for a while. I was more nervous at the Dons game a fortnight ago.

  6. GERRYFAETHEBRIG

     

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    Hail Hail fella.

     

    Gerry, I’d like to offer a belated Happy-Hoopy-Birthday to yer wee lassie.

     

    Sorry for the lateness pal.

     

    YNWA.

  7. MWD

     

     

    Am gutted about work tomorrow but since 1988 I have always hated work on a Monday…. Apologies about my last post but the suicide stuff is pretty close to my heart …

     

     

    Don’t let a few eijits get under our skin and by the way we have our own fair share of eijits (thankfully not too many)

  8. I’ve probably said too much about the bloody dolls already but the thing that sickened me was the hands tied behind their back. You shouldn’t put up an image of mock suicide anyway even if is meant to represent a Club and not a person. However no suicidal person can tie their own hands behind their back.

     

    To me it was an effigy of an execution, I’m too wee and to old to give any young fella a slap but a slap is what the clowns deserve.

     

    That is my last post on the subject. Next post I will make will be about football.

  9. Pretty sure the hanging effigies had heehaw to do with the tragedy of Kris Boyd’s brother.

     

    The hands tied behind the back suggests it is more about death/execution than suicide.

     

    As someone who has lost people to suicide over the years though,my heart would have sank if I saw that yesterday. Thankfully I was clueless until today about it.

     

    It was crass, thoughtless and even worse lacking humour,which a lot of prevous displays have had in spades.

  10. Re the valley of the dolls. I respect any Celtic fans independent views on them however, I am allowed to give an honest opinion ?

     

    I will not however accept any one from Sevco or the media preaching so called moralistic views on the subject. Firstly let’s not forget that those same fans from south of the city have for years mocked the thousands who died from starvation ( including their own), with all references that they have ever made in relation to potatos, which include the regular throwing of potatos onto the field of play for the whole TV world to see. Whenever they have indulged themselves in this behaviour the media say nothing .

     

    I am also old enough to remember the same fans burning effigys of Souness and Judas in 1989. I do not recall any old Rangers fan being outraged by those acts, nor the media for that matter despite , those acts were clear messages of their anger at their manager and their new signing.

     

    If memory serves me correctly, Souness in particular received death threats from these same people ?

     

    My last word is that it perfectly obvious to me that the “reason” for the dolls was to show how old Rangers committed financial suicide by accepting the CVA, in the hope that they would escape paying creditors and yet still remain the same club and/or company ? In other words as per usual they wanted the best of both worlds.

     

    I accept in hindsight that whoever thought this up was ill advised to do so, that much I do get. However, I was once not far away from a young Celtic fan who didn’t make it home from a Celtic match cos the colour of his scarf, his throat was cut by a drugged up pychio Rangers fan, who then had the audacity after being lightly jailed, to be sent to Ireland as a political prisoner, with the support of some politicians.

     

    I just think we need a wee sense of perspective, and don’t allow ourselves to be carried on a media/ Hun driven wave of so called outrage ?

  11. Paul67.

     

    I can see that the BBC have cancelled the showing of the Championship games which they showed every week Last season is this because the hun are no longer in the Championship,, they are still showing their true colours,the championship games were only shown last season because they had to pay their team some respect.

  12. The hanging dolls were not funny, they were in very poor taste, and an easy target for those who want to be offended.

     

    In fact I don’t think you would have to be desperate to take offence to be offended.

     

     

    But not the most offensive thing to be seen in a football ground, so yes, keep it in perspective.

     

     

    Badly done.

  13. Looking at facebook suggests that we wont have any competition from Sevco for quite a while. Looks like their fans are keen they pursue the Scottish toilet smashing championship as their main objective. It’s heartening to see where their ambitions lie.

     

    As a consequence film is emerging of them smashing our loos- and they haven’t even the brains to cover their faces.

  14. I hope the donut goes to the Barca game and gets goaded by Barcelona fans and I hope they really piss our mustachio benefactio offio.

     

    Then maybe Celtic can call the CL home next year or is that kind of response only for the OF?

  15. Oldtim

     

     

    Had a great night wi great Tims on Friday.

     

    Hope you and Zbyszek had a great day yesterday and enjoyed Mass this morning.

     

    HH

  16. glendalystonsils on

    STAIRHEEDRAMMY

     

     

    they haven’t even the brains to cover their faces.

     

     

    Huns faces should be covered up at all times, and not only when they’re smashing toilets:-))

  17. DD

     

     

    I live in a proddie enclave, I face the bams every day (95% of them are OK as OK could be) today was magic, I went to the bookies, went to mass, to my sisters dig out a walk, I met ONE of them, he was gutted when he knew I was in his eyeline, I just smile all the time, even in the 80s when we weren’t the best born a Celtic fan will die a Celtic fan nobody will ever take that away, your post about swithering to go ? YOU were there to watch the hoops don’t but the lie and never let them effect you watching your team

  18. thom the thim

     

     

    “SFTB,

     

    Your attempt to obfuscate does you no favours. If you have to look for an obscure allegoric reason behind this action, then ,surely the whole purpose of it has failed.”

     

     

     

    I don’t think I was guilty of obfucation, Certainly, my intention was not to obscure or to make anything unclear or unintelligible.

     

     

    I speculated on what their intentions may have been but my condemnation was unequivocal though, I hope, kept in perspective.

     

     

    In clearer language, let me say, I condemn their actions and I don’t know what they were thinking about.

     

     

    However, in principle, I think it is a good idea to try to understand what you are condemning and that is all I am willing to plead guilty to.

  19. I can categorically state here and now Aldi cheese puffs the’re not Wotsits. Not even in the same league. Good for what they are but not the real thing.

     

     

    Sounds familiar sevconian hordes?

  20. Margaret McGill

     

     

    Sorry but that Brexit remark was a touch tasteless. And it made me splutter my drink

     

     

    Jimbo67 as was

  21. Some well worked level 5 guff going on to cover the obvious gulf between us and sevco- made up twaddle involving blow up dolls and the Boyd family. A stunt taken out of context to suit the dobber agenda. More importantly what should we do about the sectarian vandals, clearly wishing hey were up to their knees in our blood as they wreck our lavs?

  22. I’ve always been one to turn a situation around and think what my view would be if a certain situation or act occurred from the opposite perspective. Now I am not trying to allude to any Hun having any sort of perspective but if it was dolls hung at the other end I would find them vile as I find the Celtic effigies, the pope effigies, the Virgin Mary statutes on their bonfires vile. At worst it best it was bad taste and that’s me offering some sort of excuse for it which is something I wouldn’t offer the Huns for similar. But honestly. It was just vile.

     

     

    MWD Back to the footy.

     

     

    How good were we from Second gear. I just hope we play to that standard on Tuesday and are not caught like a rabbit in the headlights again. I don’t expect a win but want one. :-))) but will be happy if we show improvement at this level and give a good account of ourselves.

     

     

    MWD again

  23. Do we put the same team as yesterday out against Barca. Griff is likely to be unavailable anyway but even if he was, I’d go for Dembele.

     

    Brendan has made a series of huge calls and has not hung around before playing the players he brought in. Could he spring Gamboa & play 3 centre backs with Lustig moving across.

     

    Do we shore up the defence or do we play to our strengths & attack.

     

    Brendan is not renowned for defensive set ups, he favours attacking formations, I may well regret saying this but I’d say give it a go against Barca.

     

    However we need to pass the ball perfectly for 93 or 94 minutes, one bad pass and it could be curtains.

  24. GFTB

     

     

    I live in a place they call Little Ireland. It was joyous here when I got back from the game yesterday. Everyone in Hoops. Rebel music playing in gardens.

     

    Visited my mammy in Knightswood today where I grew up severely outnumbered. Went to her local shopping centre in a green Lisbon Lion shirt. No one looked me in the eye apart fae an old pal of mine, who shook my hand and said. “You lot got lucky yesterday, you have a real manager and exciting young team.” Think he is now a Warriors fan. :)

  25. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    SFTB

     

     

    “However, in principle, I think it is a good idea to try to understand what you are condemning and that is all I am willing to plead guilty to.”

     

    ******

     

    I think it is pretty obvious what people are condemning.

     

    It was a visual display and, I repeat, if the underlying message has to be sought after and explained, then the the exercise was a complete failure and grossly offensive.

     

     

    Do you think someone will stand up and explain the motive behind it?

     

     

    No, me neither.

     

     

    Anyway, no more from me on the subject.

  26. Tuesday is obviously Barca

     

     

    Fight and scrape with BM for 3rd

     

     

    And we’re all off to Stocholm in the green … (Insert own words)

     

     

    Barca are Barca we are Celtic, I know who I would rather be

     

     

    JNP

     

     

    If lurking I showed your posts to my missus today from last night and she said “your a pair of eijits” your post about your good lady last night was well appreciated

     

     

    Hail Hail

  27. Hanging effigies Not good.

     

     

    However trying to equate poor taste with racist and sectarian behaviour is pure whatabourery.

     

     

    Those Celtic supporters who chose to hang rubber dolls on national TV are imbeciles. The scumbags who wanted to hang potato bags off of their main stand are just bigots.

     

     

    Giving them even an ounce of equivalency makes us less than what we truly are.

  28. AuroraBorealis79 on

    JIM PAYNE on 11TH SEPTEMBER 2016 8:21 PM

     

    Margaret McGill

     

     

     

    Sorry but that Brexit remark was a touch tasteless. And it made me splutter my drink

     

     

    __________

     

     

    You sure it wasn’t your drink that was tasteless & you are now using Margaret McGill to take the attention away from your own poor taste :-/

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