Yesterday’s statement by Celtic was clear and unambiguous. The club are aware of reports of ill-treatment of supporters by police and have an established process in place to handle concerns, directed through the umbrella Fans Against Criminalisation Group (incorporating Association, GB, Affiliation, Irish Association and Trust). Two complaints have been received and actioned since December, which sounds like we have an under-reporting issue.
I am very pleased they have committed to form a Complaints Panel, with representatives from the support and the club. We are the one family so there is no need for the club to manage complaints, the support is more than qualified on this matter. This is important as it gives supporters oversight and ensures the club cannot act behind supporters’ backs on such an important issue, which should ensure that going forward matters are dealt with properly.
This is the response I wanted from Celtic.
Celtic also suggest accusations they have targeted supporters are “without foundation”, asking “What would be the Club’s motivation for being involved in activity which targets or victimises supporters? It is simply not true. It does not make sense.” It makes no sense, of course.
Statements from the Green Brigade on Saturday, and the Affiliation committee (who believe they were referred to in the Green Brigade’s statement) today, raise some real concerns.
If, as the Affiliation suggest, “In recent weeks have seen finger pointing, whispers, rumours and lies aimed at organisations and individuals within them from sections of our own support”, we have a poison in our midst.
These matters are important enough (to me, anyway) for all parties to require clarification. Get whoever said what to whom about whoever in a room together. You will soon find out who has the cojones to look everyone else in the eye, and you will find out who is damaging your football club.
Lest we forget, these matters are a result of First Fantasist Alex Salmond’s Offensive Behaviour at Football’ Bill. The consequences of which were predicted by Fans Against Criminalisation Group, as well as Celtic, who in their written submission to the Justice Committee (sic) said as much:
“The legislation potentially discriminates against the football supporter by reason of that person being a football supporter. It criminalises him or her for being a football supporter and not only because of the nature of his or her behaviour. In other words, exactly the same behaviour could be deemed illegal if performed by a football supporter, while not constituting an offence by anyone not participating in a football environment.
“An offence of “offensive behaviour“ and the test of the reasonable person, are introduced in section 1(2) (e). This test is extremely wide and creates considerable uncertainty over what is or is not acceptable.
“If this offence is to be introduced notwithstanding our comments above, clear guidelines should be published by the Lord Advocate to explain what sorts of conduct are considered as offensive or unacceptable. The potential for confusion in the absence of clear and consistent guidelines is potentially limitless and runs the risk of the law becoming unenforceable, or brought into disrepute.”
The Scottish Government passed sloppy legislation and put extraordinary funds into a policing project which only serves to make them look clueless.
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After Saturday`s game, I felt we would not lose anothe League game this season. Already I am a little concerned that we might not win tonight!
ernie lynch @17:33 “When Salmond said about Thatcher ‘ we didn’t mind the economic side so much’ just who exactly did he mean by ‘we’?
And who would those people vote for if Scotland leaves the UK?”
Ernie I’m glad you recognise the vast wealth of my knowledge but not even I can predict elections or know what is on Alex Salmond’s mind. Other than where his next meal is coming from. I hear he’s fond of the Tunnock’s Tea Cakes. I’ve a weakness for the Caramel Logs. How about you? A Snowball man perhaps?
I’ve never met wee Eck and pay precious little attention to what he says, unlike yourself.
Jungle Jim, i’ll go with this lot.
…………………………………………Forster…………………..
….Mathews…………..Ambrose………….Wilson……………..Izaguirre………
……….67…………………………….Ledley………………….Commons……….
……………………………………………Rogic………………………….
…………………………….Hooper…………………..Stokes……………..
Ntassoolla
Thank you , too. I didn`t see your post right away.
JJ
Springsteen meets Elvis Costello Sky Arts @ 6pm.A couple of programmes featuring The Who tonight also.
Stringer
Green is not being opaque. Puppetmeister Moonbeams is with the help of the DR and chairman Murray
HH
hi all been in the background a long time reading all comments with interest .
travelled up for home game against ict ,and sat in FS6 front row , game from tics point
of view was poor ( other things on teams mind ) my view of game was not the best
too low down . Anyhoo ive saved enough pennies to come back up for aberdeen game
question is : can someone tell me in their opinion where to sit for best overall view ?
hope the GB are in attendance also .
celtic being a family, all families fall out and argue at times but we must remain together
hail hail
Steinreignedsupreme
16:29 on 19 February, 2013
“Deadwood – … Mikael Lustig and Paddy McCourt (are in it)”
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Ha ha ha! Loved that show…
Celtic -1 goal is 11/10 with bet 365
Liking that a lot.
Burgas
….and I`ll go for this as being NL`s choice:
Forster
Matthews Ambrose,Wilson,Izaguirre.
Commons,Kayal,Victor,Ledley
Hooper ,Stokes.
I do want to see a bit more of Rogic. He looked pretty classy to me during his few minutes on Saturday.
JJ
Someone should tell the dumb orc (pleonastic I know) that “rangers” have only a past since the club no longer exists.
As for sevco,it is a fledging outfit already in its early death throes, with a tenuous grip on the present and clearly no future.
And I’m sure most clubs would easily add to their attendances if they gave away free tickets like the zombie outfit.
Sevco are a modern example of The Emperor’s New Clothes syndrome.
All together now ……..
The Huns are in the altogether the altogether the altogether
They’re altogether as shafted as the day that they were born.
I just hope we play the same style and pace as Saturday….
ernie lynch
16:43 on
19 February, 2013
Snake Plissken
16:19 on 19 February, 2013
‘Ernie Lynch
Do you think Sevco supporters are “Scottish enough” for the SNP with their Union Jacks, Anti-Scottish bile and desire to call Scots Not LIKE THEM Jacobites?’
Plenty of Saltires at Ibrox.
And on the Shankhill.
‘Blood of our blood, bone of our bone’ Salmond called them.
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Here we go again…
These same peepil also appropriated the Red Hand
This has been pointed out to you before -you choose to ignore
why ?
yorkbhoy
Yes indeed. We have been improving by the week and Saturday`s performance was as good as I have seen in the last five years (that`s when I returned to Scotland),
JJ
AWE NAW 1710
IMO,absolutely correct. Certain people,clever enough or street-wise enough to know bwtter,reckoned they had our cause-simple equality-on the rise.
They backed what looked like a winner. It wasn’t,and Celtic fans are left to deal with the consequences.
As far as I am aware,the offensive behaviour part of the bill CAN include the likes of St Mirren fans name-calling Morton fans,for instance,but it seems never to be used except where we are concerned.
Ach,mibbe I’m just paranoid,eh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46bkXgxb66E
A recent Herald interview quoted Mather as advocating the creation of more millionaires, proclaiming that “any notion that an independent Scotland would be a leftwing country is delusional nonsense”. While he is clearly unhappy with the quote – which he claims was taken out of context, Mather is philosophical about the incident: “I was delighted (not at the time) that I was misquoted like that and it is exceedingly helpful that I have been taken out of context and painted as some sort of right wing Genghis Khan who has infiltrated the SNP”. At pains to stress his social democratic credentials, Mather insists he is “totally relaxed” about progressive taxation. The biggest issue facing poor communities today, with the reduction of absolute poverty, Mather feels is relative poverty – “where you feel you come in the pecking order”. Speaking about the damaging effects of poverty on self-esteem and on health, quality of life and life expectancy, he insists he “couldn’t be more motivated to fix that … What I was trying to do was shorthand for saying ‘I want nothing to do with a communist-style command-led economy'”.
Jungle Jim- taken us to win 0-3, 0-4 and 0-5
lionroars67
17:58 on 19 February, 2013
‘A recent Herald interview quoted Mather as advocating the creation of more millionaires, proclaiming that “any notion that an independent Scotland would be a leftwing country is delusional nonsense”’
The quote isn’t from the Herald.
It’s from Holyrood magazine.
An article by Mather entitled ‘Less tax please.’
The quote wasn’t taken out of context.
Stokes hat trick 33/1 Skybet
The Rangers could put a pretty good museum together. It could span the whole of their nearly one year long history and would include all sorts of firsts – first programme, first cup exit, first defeat, etc.
Ernie Lynch can you provide a reference?
Lionsroar. Can you? S’il vous plait.
Ernie shall I stick you down for a packet of snowballs?
ernie lynch
18:07 on
19 February, 2013
I wll paid heed to the man speaking for himself rather than the opinion on what he means by someone who has a deep hatred and anger towards the SNP, you are very similar to Leggo in your outlook towards the SNP, same level of hate and anger, not good for you Ernie let it go…………………………. Tell me you disagree with the statement below
To this day, when the Bells Ring out the Old and herald the New, I am not ashamed to admit to shedding a tear. A wee droplet from the eye in memory of bygone days of yore, for family long gone and times gone with them. For an era when Scotland was a better place, a more tolerant and tolerable nation, indeed when Scotland was a nation more comfortable in its own skin than it is now in an age when Alex Salmond seeks to cause the break- up of the ties which bind us as Britons
lionroars67
18:16 on 19 February, 2013
‘I wll paid heed to the man speaking for himself’
Then read what he had to say rather than his lame ‘the quote was taken out of context’ excuse when he was found out.
jj- footnote on their famous “semi final”, their last sectional game was v CSKA Moscow, with Marseille winning v Bruges they had to win that game 9-0 to qualify.
Some semi final!
Even if they had Bobby Tait reffing they still wouldn’t have made it. The game ended up 0-0.
Ntassoolla
18:11 on
19 February, 2013
Ernie Lynch can you provide a reference?
Lionsroar. Can you? S’il vous plait.
http://www.actsparl.org/interviews/snp/jim-mather.aspx
lionroars67
18:24 on 19 February, 2013
J Mather, ‘Less Tax Please’, Holyrood 95, 22 September 2003, p25.
DANICA PATRICK………..The Green Machine………….
http://www.bradenton.com/2013/02/18/4398498/danica-patrick-makes-nascar-history.html
ernie lynch
18:23 on
19 February, 2013
I see you dont disagree with the Leggo statement on the SNP, politics makes for strange bed fellows so they say, as long as you dont mind the p*** stains on you PJ
Anybody seen Leggo and Ernie in the same room
ernie lynch @18:23 “Then read what he had to say ”
I will if you can point me to it. Not to quotes, but the actual article.
bognorbhouyle 17:50 on 19 February, 2013
question is : can someone tell me in their opinion where to sit for best overall view (at Pittodrie)
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Section T is in the middle of the South Stand then S, R, Q then P is the worst.
See http://www.afc.co.uk/staticFiles/7/55/0,,10284~152839,00.pdf
Someone mentioned Paul Byrne earlier……reminded me of yesteryear.
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The game at Mordor was an evening KO (I think!) and as it was around new year time , spent the day indulging and was more than merry by the time it came to get on the bus.
As night follows day after 15 mins travel the cry went up , toilet stop ( or words to that effect)
Vaguely remember jogging across a road followed by my mate and tripping over a concrete slab, landing safely but him landing on ma hand . Finger bent in 2 well broke but somehow the bevvy stifled the pain!!
Remember Paul scoring ( great goal )and screaming in the melee watch ma finger, watch ma finger ( bevvy wearing off)
Oh happy days…Hail Hail Paul Byrne.
Ps did his/does his laddie no play for Hibs?
When The Scotsman prints unattributed stories about Sevco then something is afoot. We have learned that much.
HH
For you race car fans out there………
Danica Patrick became the first woman to win pole position at the Daytona 500 with an average speed of 196.434 MPH.
She is 30yrs old 5′ 2″ and weighs 100lbs and she is hot.
She drives the GoDaddy Chevrolet and the color is “Shocking Green”
Let’s cheer her on in the big race as I believe she is a Tim………
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/340159-the-20-hottest-danica-patrick-photos-on-the-internet
lionroars67 wonders @18:28 “Anybody seen Leggo and Ernie in the same room?”
They’d have to be in the same room to be in the same bed, would they not?
lionroars67
18:28 on 19 February, 2013
I find nationalism, at best, silly and distasteful.
It doesn’t matter whether it’s English, British or Scottish.
And I find it curious that there are people who purport to be Celtic fans assuming that there it’s strange or unusual that Celtic fans would prefer Scotland to remain as part of the UK.
No one from an Irish Catholic background living in Scotland would find it strange or unusual.
Goldstar
Are you obsessed by that deid team? You seem to know an awfy lot about them!
EC67
philbhoy – it’s just the beginning!
14:21 on
19 February, 2013
Someone posted earlier, that if the the ran*ers win the fourth tier title they would get £47,000.
Is that before tax?
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Don’t you know, they didn’t do tax, with impunity ……… This tribute act club may follow (pardon the phun) in their footsteps, if they survive until 5 April ……..!!!!!!!!