One of the things you hope for when a player leaves for a richer league is that they perform well. It reflects on whatever value you will get the next time someone leaves. Joe Ledley has gotten off to a flier with Crystal Palace, although there is still a long way to go there, but our two big summer sales are finding it tough.
Gary Hooper hadn’t scored in his last nine starts for Norwich. His season tally stands at five league goals and two assists, which is still four goals more than Ricky van Wolfswinkel, who cost more than twice Hooper’s price but has scored only once in the league. Norwich other two strikers have yet to get off the blocks.
Bizarrely, Norwich are flooded with expensive strikers but their fans will bemoan the fact that they don’t have a goal-scorer, which Hooper was at Celtic and van Wolfswinkel was at Utrecht, where he scored a hat-trick against Celtic, and at Sporting. There is a good chance they will be relegated as a consequence, which will probably have them back on the hunt for a Leigh Griffiths-type striker.
Gary had his dips in form at Celtic, which included a meagre last four months of his final season, Cup Final apart, but Victor Wanyama is one of the best central midfielders we have seen at Celtic in a considerable time. He was a solid performer for Southampton before injury side-lined him for two months. Now back, he has a seat alongside Jos Hooiveld on the bench, due to the form of Jack Cork, one of Southampton’s many current stars.
Hooper and Wanyama were among the stars of the Celtic team last season but I suspect their new clubs’ fans are wondering what all the fuss is about. Form is fickle. It’s hard to tell when a career is about to turn all Liam Miller on a bright young prospect (and let’s be honest, Miller was every bit as lauded here as Hooper or Wanyama), or what consequences the new club, the move, or other distractions are having on performance.
There are also a couple of ex-Celtic goalkeepers doing a star turn in the FA Premier League, David Marshall at Cardiff and Artur Boruc at Southampon. After dazzling in his early months Marshall sipped well down the pecking order at Celtic, who eventually offloaded him. He was replaced as first choice by Boruc, who could claim to be the top rated keeper in Europe 8 years ago but completely lost ‘it’, before finding it again, recently.
My prediction is that Hooper, Wanyama, Balde, Boerrigter and Pukki will not fulfil their potential at their current clubs, although I considered Wanyama’s place on the list for a while. This does not make them bad players, ‘it’ just doesn’t always happen when it should. By contrast, some players look born to play for Celtic, including Kris Commons, who does not fit the profile of top-flight English clubs but is a rare gem in the Champions League for Celtic.
Really enjoyed reading the questions to and comments about Tommy Gemmell yesterday, as did Tommy, who spent the afternoon reading CQN and was “delighted” at the response. He’s not got a login yet but we’ll get him sorted and do a live event on the blog after we have the book out of the way.
I’m attending a meeting next Wednesday with Supporters’ Liaison Officer, John Paul Taylor. Let me know if there are any questions you’d like raised.
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weeminger,
No need for Motherwell to comment, the Police and media were all over it.
N.. You Two .. Big Nan n Aultdheid..
Dinna Hae an INKLING.. o’ Where Ah am goin’… Wi’ This.
Kojo
Still,Laughin’
Can anybody recall an official statement from any club about the behaviour of opposition fans?
If the likes of Pukki, Balde and Boerrigter had been scouted and signed at Lenny’s behest they might get more game time.
If I was a manager who had been usurped by the board, I might make my displeasure clear by not playing players who were not my choice and whom I didn’t believe were what I wanted and needed. Hypothetically, of course.
weeminger
18:04 on
Dundee just over a year ago and deid club during minty’s years when he banned our supporters for damaging seats ect.
Auldheid
Your phrase ‘hostile territory’ answers most of the ‘why’, but silence leads to
apathy and it’s a contributory factor to the general downward trend in
attendances. We’ve lost fans that are fed up, with the whole thing.
Aberdeen’s mealy mouthed response via twitter about the abuse of Neil Lennon
gave them carte blanche to do it again,en masse, inside CP.
And we take it.
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Kojo
17:55 on
13 February, 2014
I think there is a connection but before my granddad. I’m Gallowgate born and bred and see myself as Scottish.
However when I attended an Open Meeting four years ago and listened to lads from the Irish Affiliation (or similar title) I was struck by how much their experience coloured their views (and how else could it be?).
So much so that I could understand why that, had their experience been mine, I would have felt like them.
I think its called empathy, but empathy is a two way street.
Cheers eddie – so it looks like clubs generally avoid getting into tit-for-tat exchanges about each other’s fans which makes sense to me.
bournesouprecipe
18:17 on
13 February, 2014
Auldheid
Your phrase ‘hostile territory’ answers most of the ‘why’, but silence leads to
apathy and it’s a contributory factor to the general downward trend in
attendances. We’ve lost fans that are fed up, with the whole thing.
Aberdeen’s mealy mouthed response via twitter about the abuse of Neil Lennon
gave them carte blanche to do it again,en masse, inside CP.
And we take it.
++++++++++++++++++
How could it have been stopped? Ban the decent Don’s fans for the sake of a few idiots whose partners only attribute is a regular supply of wool?
I’m talking to a lot of guys who ain’t going on Sunday and are ST holders.
Meaningless game is what I’m told.
Still hacked off from last Saturday I’ve also been told.
Worrying times at the moment.
How do we get these ghuys back and to renew next year ?
I unreservedly support Lenny…
Those that don’t can go support Rangers as far as I’m concerned.
Ok we’ve had set backs but to the doubters I say take a step back and assuming you are of an age to put things in to perspective, be glad you support the UNDISPUTED kings of Scottish football.
I’m from being a happy clapper and I see some serious challenges for the club ( engaging fans being chief ) but I think we should get a grip and play our part in supporting Celtic meet these challenges.
I’m actually scunnered by the amount of anti Lenny keech I’m hearing. The guy is a young manager doing one of the hardest jobs in football. He stepped in when we were desperate. He’s stepped up. He will get better.
Some of the fans need to get better IMO.
Cultsbhoy
Well said
Burghbhoy
I think using the youth and letting them step up will improve things, i believe they can compete and grow and stop our heavy reliance on bringing in imports, we need imports to sell on as part of our plan to make money as a club. however I don’t think we need to buy at the level we currently are, duff players are wasting the clubs time and stunting a youths growth.
I also think a further reduction in season ticket prices will help.
I’m debating renewing my season ticket, that’s merely down to travel expenses to the game from Essex to Glasgow, not anything to do with whats happening on or off the field, but a lot of people currently are skint and that will continue with rises elsewhere and stagnant wages, so price increases will definetly be a bad move from the club.
Poor fella has waited thirty years to see his team in the flesh,travelled all the way from Malaysia.
And the match was called off!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2557979/Everton-fan-THIRTY-years-finally-makes-Goodison-Park-Toffees-play-live-time-match-postponed.html
Nae luck,son!
Auldheid
IN THE TENT PISSIN OOT OR OOT THE TENT PISSIN IN.
THINK WE ALL WANT TO DO THE PISSIN FOR A CHANGE AND SEE HOW THEY LIKE IT.WONT BE OOR PETER!!!!!1
one wee example.celtic asked about the fouls missed by ref and spotted on tv.after 6 months YES 6 MONTHS peter had not had a reply.would you stand for that?????? a few months later the deid clubs manager asked a question and the very next night someone fron SFA was on tv with an explanation.
lesson ???????they are scared of WATTY they treat PETER like shit.if you let them treat you like that you deserve it.it will keep happening as long as you let it!!!!!!
CULTSBHOY
Yer only saying that cos yer an Aberdeen fan really!
Kidding,mate-I echo BURGHBHOY’s sentiments.
Cultsbhoy
Great post- I was as hacked off by last Saturday as any supporter. Things are bumpy and this season hasn’t worked out as I or we hoped and let’s face it expected. But I’ll be there and like the fool I am I still expect to enjoy it.
Mon the Hoops.
Jimbo67 supporting Oscar Knox
Not had a chance to scroll back yet but a happy St Huno’s day to everybody. It’s like when JFK died I can tell you what I was doing and where I was when Craigybhoy announced that the receivers were being called in. Hard to believe it was 2 years ago, a lot of Jelly and Ice cream has flowed under the bridge since then :-))
Auldheid
What decent Aberdeen fans would that be?
Without labouring the point, it was thousands in unison singing paedo chants, and other c word abuse of Neil Lennon. Nothing like it since before liquidation day, quite sinister was the content, and number of offenders.
Thousands of them have a problem , and they underlined the ‘few’ from Tynecastle
Robert88
I agree, play Henderson and Balde every game until season ends.
Youths being introduced will bring some back.
Board intransigence is the biggest obstacle that I see though .
Lack of engagement from PL has hacked off many.
This has to change
The banter.
I once went to a Wick v Aberdeen friendly ..
Chants of Sheep S******* were met by chants of Fish F******
cultsbhoy
18:33 on 13 February, 2014I unreservedly support Lenny…Those that don’t can go support Rangers as far as I’m concerned.
So do you go along with NLs comments that “we have had a great season”.I’m not going to rake up all the comments since Saturday,but IMO fans have the right to question Neil and tactics,some of which has been repeated in damaging defeats.HH
Supporters Forum
Not sure if Paul will add more to his trailer in this blog using a a separate specific blog but here is some background. It is an opportunity to start building bridges so what would you like to see that produces a more cohesive approach?
The invite is to individuals and groups but the SLO is happy to take input via blogs which is why Paul asked for such.
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(I got an invite because I’ve been patiently pushing for something to be done on communication for years now via a membership scheme and have met JPT to suggest systems that might do just that)
From John Paul Taylor Celtic SLO
Good Evening Everyone
Having now completed my first six months in the role of SLO at Celtic, I am keen to continue and develop the dialogue we have with supporters and build on the lines of communication which are currently in place with the elected representatives of the various Supporter organisations.
On this basis I am looking to put in place a Supporters Forum which will meet quarterly with the Club’s Executive to discuss current issues affecting Celtic and would like to extend an invitation for you to attend.
As you know the Celtic Support is made up of a very broad church and I have endeavoured to gather a cross section of supporters who I believe will represent the needs of the wider Celtic Support.
The initial meeting will be structured whereby we will take questions in advance in order that we can get a flavour for what the key topics will be. This will effectively provide an opportunity for discussion and allow us to make best use of the time available.
After each meeting there will be a set of minutes which will be published through the Club’s media channels to inform supporters of the responses to the issues raised.
It is planned that the first meeting of the group will take place at Celtic Park in the No.7 restaurant at 7pm on February 19, I would ask that questions are directed to myself and are received no later than Sunday, February 16.
I look forward to hearing from you with any points you would like to raise and confirmation of attendance.
Best regards
John Paul
Auldheid..
So.. You no being.. too RECENTLY Connected tae Yer Irish Roots..
Mitigates, YOUR .. General Atitude.. a wee tate.. Ah suppose.
Howevah…yer Irishness.. still… Plays…Peek a Boo.. Noo n Again…
O.K.
Ah wull tell ye a Joke, then..
Once upon a Time.. there lived a Bunch o’ Natives..oan a Desert Island.
A Coupla o thur Kids..
Spotted a wee rowin Boat.. Approaching,thur Sandy Beach..
In the Wee Boat.. wiz .. Weel Built Man., wi a Thatch o Red Hair..
He sure looked Pretty Fierce tae the Wee Laudies, when they saw Him.
Fur Red Hair..which he hid growin,oota his Heid.. didnae Grow in The South Sea Islands.. at least, NOT in that Time.
Big Man wiz rowin Vigorously ashore..
Well.. the Two wee Boys.. ran like Billyo..
when they reached thur Nearby, Village..
They .. Anxiously, informed.. thur Daddy.. Who Wiz the Chief o the Village.
Whit kinda Big Strong Stranger.. wi the Flashin Red Hair..
wiz..hell bent oan Paying them a Visit.
The South Sea Natives.. Didnae Like the Cut o’ His Jib. nor the thought.. o’ his Red Hair… so..
They ran doon tae the Beach -Head ,n Huddled behind the Palm Trees…
Keekin oot , Timidly.. an Wonderin Whit thur Gods Had In Store Fur Them.
At last the Big Man…reached the Shore..
He Clambered oota the Boat.
He Parked hid Rowin Boat.. well up oan the Beachhead.
n Turrned thae Boat.. Up side Doon…
Mounting the Platform, which he hid Created..
He Thumped his Chest .. n Hollered..
Ah know You Guys ur Hidin’ Behind the Palm Trees..
So Listen Up…
Ah am An Irishman… N… Let me tell you.. something.. Afore we become further Acquainted..
Ah am an Irish Man…
N. Being Irish.. It Goes withoot Sayin.. But , Ah wull.. say it Anywey..
Ah Hate All Forms o’ Government!
fur the Irish…ur Jist Like that…
We jis Canny Stomach…
Any Buddy tae be In charge.
Kojo
Still,Laughin’
Noo..In Ma experience.. Readin n Writin’ oan this Sainted Blog..
Ah hiv Noted.
That That Auld Joke..
Ia
So damn Trew…
N it ex;plains..
Why..
So Miny Guys n Gals who write oan this Blog..
Well..
Hiv that Very Very.. Bad Attitude..
Towards..
The Celtic Board n Mr Lawwell..
Fur.. the Mair Irish Genes a Fellow or gal Hiz..
Affects his Attitude tae Those.. In Charge..
They Jist Don’t TRUST.. with Authority Diz.. No Maitter.
So..
That is why..’
The Celtic Board get it in the Neck.. N.. Peter,as well..
Big Time.
Yes.. You Fellows canny help BEEFIN.. N GRIPIN..
AGAINST .. AUTHORITY FIGURES..
Fur yer Irishness,, which is In Yer Genes..
Wullnae Let ye .. act in Any ither Manner.. towards..
Authority Figures.
So noo Ye Know.
Thanks to everyone who took the time to submit a question for Tommy Gemmell. These have now all been complied and edited slightly so they can appear in Tommy’s new book – All the Best. Anyway we will be sending the questions over to Tommy in the morning and he is looking forward to answering them.
For anyone who wants to see what we sending to Tommy you can have a look here: and enjoy the wee video on the cover page before turning to page 2
http://www.calameo.com/read/00039017130ac890116c5
FAVOURITE UNCLE,BOURNESOUPRECIPE
In much the same way as Neil was described as “big enough to look after himself”-and therefore fair game,so is the club.
Seems we are considered the playground bully because of our size,so not entitled to the protection offered by the rules that everyone else gets.
bournesouprecipe
18:45 on
13 February, 2014
As an old nun told me, you can wear slippers or try and carpet the world. A group of folk at football act differently from individually.
It is the nature of things.
They are sick, their problem.
winning captains
18:49 on
13 February, 2014
Thanks to everyone who took the time to submit a question for Tommy Gemmell. These have now all been complied and edited slightly so they can appear in Tommy’s new book
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I take it the that my reference to “haw maws” is on the cutting room floor?
Sheeesh :)
WINNING CAPTAINS
TURKEYBHOY will be disappointed that his contribution has been ignored….
Winning Captains
Apologies. I see you left it in.
I would have removed it on the grounds of my poor taste in expression. :0)
Looking for a Hun Lurker in here?
C’mon Paul no more shy and retiring.
Where are you???
Bobby Murdoch’s – he’s probably moaning about it on FF
winning captains
I see you missed my questions about the wasps out.
so can you ask instead if he has a relative called WINNING.
Kojo
18:49 on
13 February, 2014
Yup. As I wrote once put three supporter at a tram stop at Galsgow Cross for a tram heading for Auchenshugle that passes CP and only one will get on board whilst the other two argue that nobody tells them where they want to go.
However there are ways and means of addressing this but the first step is to ask the three guys what their actual goal is , to get to CP or have an argument?.
If enough get on the tram they will be happy about achieving their goal , and so too will be the ones left arguing. :)
Cultsbhoy
I share your frustration of the ‘hang Neil’ brigade. A couple of Best extra cold in the Prince of Wales is helping :-)
Favourite Uncle – wasn’t sure that it was a proper question? If you can clarify and if it is a proper question for Tommy happy to add it in.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
ANOTHER FIRST I SEE.
you got a relation called BOLT.