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I could make a case that the Hibs dressing room has a feeling of empowerment that belies their lowly position.  Whatever happened when Leeann Dempster and Neil Lennon agreed the latter would leave his position as Hibs manager, the dressing room was almost certainly an active component in the process.  The same players now have Paul Heckingbottom to contend with, and you do not need prophesising skills to know that Paul will soon leave in a similar manner to Neil Lennon.

When players have an influence on the manager’s position, they also decide when they want to put a shift in.  A home game against Livingston might not get the juices flowing, until embarrassment kicks in, but a Hampden semi-final will.  Hibs players are choosing their battles.

Tomorrow is a big test for Celtic, the 30th domestic cup game since our last elimination.  Sure, we are better than the rest, but still, the uneven distribution of chances, goals, red cards, freak events and honest mistakes, means that such runs are statistically very unlikely.

I would rather be cautious than flamboyant tomorrow.  Get through the game without tackles that risk a Christie-Livingston-type red card, or that denies Hibs space inside our box that can result in an Inverness or Ross County-type semi-final penalty.

We have won 12 games at Hampden on the bounce, without the need for extra-time or penalties.  It is our home-from-home, we have the game intelligence succeed, so let’s get to the final.

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  1. Friend recommended a new web browser for iphone called “Brave”, free from app store.

     

    Lightning fast, with big emphasis on privacy.

     

    Just trying it at moment. Not as effective on CQN as switching javascript off but a huge improvement over Safari.

  2. HAG it certainly was, I was there with my old man, I was 12..

     

     

    First visit to the bigotdome.

     

     

    HH

     

     

    D. :)

  3. If the league ends up same points same goal difference same goals scored/lost, equal head to head between us and them, I suggest that the club with the stronger balance sheet should win the title.

     

     

    That would surely be the ultimate accolade for CQN.

  4. Looking forward to the Big game the morra (certainly not the view @ Hampden).

     

     

    Great News that James has signed on for a few years more – certainly isnae about Money with him.

     

     

    Just watched Neils Media Conference and he is saying Broonie is a doubt.

     

     

    Tomorrow is a really important game and it won’t be the end of the world having the Team playing without its Captain in a pressurised must win game….. I mean the Refereeing Squad is a belter!!!!

     

     

    The Style Celtic the morra for sure.

     

     

    It’s gonnae be good.

  5. Great financial results from Ibrox this evening… backing up ths long term theory that since trying to keep pace with the Irish/catholics/fenians in 1985 they have lost £1m a month… Something that will never change.

     

    They are the thickest fans on the planet.

     

    They genuinely believe it is only a matter ttsr of time before their players are going to start selling for millions.

     

    Celtic sold Ki su Yeung, Petrov, Forster, Wanyama VVD then Dembele before we got £25M for Tierney…. The huns think they’ll go from 700 grand for Joey Gardner to £20m quid for a guy who scores hat-tricks against Gibraltar.

     

    They are playing with the boys head- clubs who Morelos would get a game for in a better league don’t pay £10m+ for players and dont pay much more than what he gets at the debt-dome.

     

     

    Well done to the guy who penned the GB statement yesterday…. Anyone who hasn’t read it should…. Plain, concise and a great advert for Celtic fans…..Talking of statements-the post from BRTH last week concisely explaining Res12 is amongst the best I have ever read anywhere and I meant to post that at the time… I know sometimes the Res12 guys might feel a bit unsupported but as I’ve said before, there are thousands of Celtic fans who are grateful, and in my case tbh.-amazed at your brain capacity.

     

     

    Anyway I think we should sign Cosgrove and McGeady in January.

     

    I fancy Celtic to win a few games before January by a 2-0 scoreline so I will be betting that manana with Elyanoussi to score anytime.

  6. my first time at ibrox as well.

     

    i was trusted with a bottle of vodka up my jookes, 13 years old, vaulted the turnstyle i took off to run up the steps and the bottle fell out my jacket, but in some miraculous intervention it bounced on an edge and got caught by my uncle.

     

     

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    1979-05-11: St Mirren 0-2 Celtic, Premier DivisionThis is a featured page

     

    Match Pictures | Matches: 1978 – 1979 | 1979-79 Pictures

     

    Trivia

     

    Just 11 days before “Ten Men who won the League” and with this win Celtic went top of the League.

     

    Johannes Edvaldsson and Peter Latchford were both making recovery from ankle injuries. Latchford made the game but it was too early for big Shuggie.

     

    Alfie Conn who had been freed by Celtic was signed for Derby County on this day but three days later Derby manager Tommy Docherty departed for QPR and Conn’s contract was cancelled.

     

    Mike Conroy sent home after feeling ill with Tommy Burns starting.

     

    No Celts were included in the Scotland first team in Jock Stein’s latest international squad but Roy Aitken, George McCluskey and Murdo MacLeod were included in the U21 squad.

     

     

    Review

     

    This match was played at Ibrox Park as Love Street was in the process of reconstruction. Ibrox itself was in a state of upheaval as the Copland Road stand was almost complete and that summer the Broomloan stand would begin construction. For this reason this was to be the last time that Celtic supporters would stand in their traditional ‘Celtic end’ on the old open Ibrox terracing before it was destroyed. This game was a postponed fixture from December and is another reason for the Ibrox venue.

     

     

    Despite this being a home match for Saints Celtic had around 20,000 fans in the ground who were hoping that Celtic could continue their march towards the title. Celtic fans packed the old terracing and the Centenary stand with Saints fans in the main stand and enclosure areas.

     

     

    Celtic appeared nervous and the game was scrappy on a fiery pitch. Despite a poor first half Celtic increased the pressure as the game wore on and it was no surprise when McCluskey headed in the first from a Provan corner. Ten minutes from time Lennox scored an identical header again from a Provan cross and Celtic had won, much to the delight of the green and white mass behind the Saints’ goal.

     

     

    This game was played on a Friday evening at the request of the police.

     

     

    http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/1979-05-11%3A+St+Mirren+0-2+Celtic%2C+Premier+Division

     

     

    http://image.wikifoundry.com/image/3/d83a978083dc30f722f83e8d510bf47a/GW968H768

     

     

    look at the crowd, there was more than 23000 there.

  7. Connor Hazard could be Dundee’s best signing this season 3 league wins on the trot since the young Tic goalie has joined them ..

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  9. Nally 81

     

     

    I’ll put BRT&H’s post up for you…my head was spinning (no drink was taken) re RES 16 till I read this

     

    great post from yir mhan.

     

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    BROGAN ROGAN TREVINO AND HOGAN on 28TH OCTOBER 2019 3:08 PM

     

    Afternoon All.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    On Res 12.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    First of all, can I be very plain in my words.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Some recent articles on Res 12 in certain blogs are, to be frank, a complete crock of shit!

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Is that plain enough language?

     

     

     

     

     

     

    They are written without either research or contact or discussion or any inside knowledge.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    They are green and white bullshit.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    About a fortnight ago I sent out the following tweet;

     

     

     

     

     

     

    @BroganRoganTrev

     

     

     

     

    Jeezo, there are some Celtic related clickbait sites that are truly rank rotten. The articles don’t even make any sense. I won’t name the one I just read for a moment but it is utter tosh. Advertising driven drivel with headlines & stories which don’t match & say nothing. AVOID!

     

     

     

     

     

     

    A day later I said the following on the same platform:

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Brogan Rogan Trevino

     

     

     

     

    @BroganRoganTrev

     

     

     

     

    According to a Judicial Panel, the rules, laws and regulations of @UEFA are not enforceable in Scotland by

     

     

     

     

    @ScottishFA who are the designated Licensing body appointed by @UEFA. It is also questionable whether the @ScottishFA can legally enforce its own rules in certain respects.

     

     

     

     

    8:22 AM · Oct 18, 2019·Twitter Web App

     

     

     

     

     

     

    So having gotten that out of my system can I just say that any blog which proclaims or opines about legal action suing the board of Celtic PLC must have been going to different meetings than those I have been attending and with different people to those who have driven Res 12 from the get go.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    All such articles are CRAP!

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Now there is nothing wrong with any blogger or contributor opining on what they think should be done, could be done, might be done or whatever as that is perfectly valid but some of the misinformation being put out by so called Celtic fans in search of a few advertising clicks leaves me cold.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    LET ME BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT SOMETHING.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    All this chat about Golden bullets, Silver Bullets, and all that stuff is so out of date and behind the times that it is clear that the writers do not understand what has happened.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Fact: At the 2013 AGM the board of Celtic PLC were asked by resolutioners to take this matter to UEFA because the resolutioners felt that the SFA was compromised and we did not trust them to do the write thing which was to investigate what were then suspected rule breaches.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    FACT: Celtic FC didn’t agree with that course of action and initially were for voting against the resolution because they felt it wasn’t necessary because they were already making enquiries of the SFA on the same issue — and so they were. Basically they argued that there was no need for a resolution requesting the board to do something that they were already doing.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    FACT: Both Celtic and the Resolutioners were asking roughly the same questions but Celtic wanted to stick with the SFA while the Resolutioners had no faith in that organisation and wanted to go to UEFA.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    FACT: Having discussed the situation, both parties agreed to continue the resolution so that further questions could be asked of the SFA by Celtic, and at the same time the Resolutioners started to formally make enquiries of UEFA through legal channels.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    FACT: At the outset, the SFA didn’t want to know about any of this and vigorously defended their licensing processes and maintained that everything was tickety boo – or should that be tickety blue? However, over the course of the following months and years this then changed – subtly in some respects, materially and dramatically in others.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    FACT: After a lot of correspondence and many meetings with various parties, including Celtic, and after hearing certain evidence become public at the Craig Whyte Trial – the SFA, despite Celtic and the SPFL calling for a wider inquiry, decided to conduct their own narrower investigation and eventually they brought disciplinary charges based on the evidence now freely available to them.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    NOTE; THE SFA BROUGHT CHARGES WHEN THEIR ORIGINAL POSITION WAS THAT THEY WERE NOT INTERESTED AND THERE WAS NOTHING TO SEE.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    So what changed, who was instrumental in bringing about that change, and how did they do it?

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I will leave that question hanging in the air and anyone reading this can decide for themselves.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Remember we wanted to take the matter to UEFA and the board wanted to keep the matter with the SFA.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Where we stand today is that those charges are in limbo because of a ruling which says that the SFA cannot legally prosecute and consider those charges, and that the entire matter be referred to the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Remember in 2013 we wanted the matter referred to UEFA while Celtic were in favour of leaving things with the SFA, who we maintained were not a competent body as they were compromised.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    There is an argument to say we were both right. The SFA were eventually left with no option but to bring charges, but a judicial panel agreed that they were, and always had been, compromised and so could not see those charges through to a conclusion.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Had anyone said back in 2013 that charges would be brought and would be considered and dealt with by the Court of Arbitration for Sport there would have been universal cheering from the Res 12 benches!

     

     

     

     

     

     

    The issue now is that the SFA have sat on their backside and procrastinated for the best part of 18 months and so the resolutioners think they can no longer be trusted and so want Celtic to refer the matter to UEFA or indeed the City of London Police – and I will come back to them in a minute.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    The board continue to have faith in the SFA and maintain that a direct approach to UEFA is not in the best interests of the club.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    We are as yet to hear their detailed reasons why they hold that view.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    However, no one is saying, at the minute at least, that the charges should not proceed, should be abandoned and that nothing should be done – at least not that I am aware of.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    We do believe that the board could have taken the UEFA route before now, and we are very much aware of the reports from Celtic that no one else in Scottish Football is the least bit interested in this whole scenario.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Not one other club is apparently concerned that the SFA cannot prosecute their own charges or seek enforcement of their own rules within their own jurisdiction.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    That is just astonishing.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    There are apparently reasons for that stance but that is for another day as this is not the issue at the moment.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    So, the resolution clearly calls upon Celtic to take certain action, and Celtic disagree on that course of action because they maintain that there is another route to follow via the SFA (Remember at the start of this the SFA wanted to take no action and stated there was nothing to see but have moved from that stance dramatically).

     

     

     

     

     

     

    We disagree.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    In the interim, the resolutioners have discussed at length possible strategies to follow in the event that the SFA do nothing and continue to sit on their hands, or declare that they are not taking the charges further despite bringing them in the first place.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    These would be steps which are wholly separate to any potential action taken by the Celtic Board.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    What the Celtic Board would do in the event of the SFA doing nothing is a matter of speculation and we could only react when that happens.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    However, independent shareholder action is a possibility –BUT IT WOULD NOT BE AGAINST THE CELTIC BOARD AND ANYONE WHO FLOATS THAT NOTION OR SUGGESTS THAT IS THE ROUTE BEING FOLLOWED BY THE RESOLUTIONERS DOES THE CELTIC SUPPORT A HUGE DISSERVICE AND DOES NOTHING OTHER THAN POTENTIALLY MISLEAD CELTIC FANS ALTOGETHER.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    IT IS UTTER BALDERDASH AS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT AND MUCH WIDER REACHING LEGAL STRATEGY ALTOGETHER.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    By the way the reference to the City of London Police is there because that police force have a previous involvement in recovering records and information which might be germane and because it is that police force who generally looks into crimes involving listed companies.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Personally, my recent experience of various police forces is that they are under pressure in relation to resources and that they are reluctant to seriously look at financial crimes of this type and prefer to use their resources elsewhere. The city of London Police is no different.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    That position is not one I agree with nor does it lessen the need for financial crime to be investigated but that is the facts of life in the UK in 2019.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    There is pressure to provide more resources for this type of investigation but again that is for another day and another forum.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    So, there you have it. We disagree with the Celtic board on their faith in the SFA.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    We are not out to topple the board, undermine what it does right, nor comment on other areas where we, as individuals, think they might do better, or what it should do in the future about this or that.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Words like betrayed, stabbed in the back, treason, etc etc are click bait tactics to get readers to click on certain sites just to get the advertising revenue up for the site owners. They have nothing to do with Res 12, its goals, the way the resolutioners conduct themselves, or is a window into what legal steps might be available in the future.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    There is no revolution or uprising or whatever.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    There are clear expressions of opinion and sometimes those opinions differ and have to be expressed frankly and plainly.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    In all dealings with Celtic, the SFA, UEFA or whoever there are quiet, professional, forceful, and consistent opinions, advice and discussions which seek to do nothing more than have the original facts and circumstances properly raised, aired and considered by the appropriate and competent bodies.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Nothing more, nothing less.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Anyone who says different talks through a whole in their Elkie Brooks.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    As for being played by the Celtic Board in some way I would ask in what way?

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Remember, since the original resolution, the SFA changed their tune, charges were brought and all the SFA executives who may have originally resisted our representations have left their post!

     

     

     

     

    A judicial ruling has said that the SFA were and are compromised and that the entire matter should go to the Court of Arbitration for Sport – namely away from the SFA.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    To me, that sounds kinda like what we set out to achieve – all that has to happen now is that the judicial panel ruling is followed through and is implemented.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    The SFA can do that of their own accord or they can be forced to by UEFA.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Celtic should ask the SFA to jump or they should ask UEFA to push them.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Right now we are going for the shove option.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    But hey — all good things comes to those who wait and who occasionally give others a nudge in the right direction.

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    BIGRAILROADBLUES on 1ST NOVEMBER 2019 9:26 PM

     

    Good evening all from the Star Bar.

     

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    Hello to your good self from me and WeeBGFC. About to settle down with Mrs BGFC to watch ‘Romancing the Stone’ starring Kirk Douglas’ wee boh and some skinny chick. Can’t be Rock n’ Roll every day :-))))

     

     

    Will be tomorrow, though….

     

     

    HH

     

    BGFC & WeeBGFC

  11. Hrvatski Jim on 1st November 2019 6:19 pm

     

     

    Jim…re Benfica pre-match,

     

     

    Brilliant stuff.

     

     

    I am sure I told this before but age has clouded my mind.

     

     

    Anyway back in 2007 me and a couple of pals went to Lisbon for the game against Benfica.

     

     

    We didn’t play particularly well and lost 1-0, but before the game in Estadio de Luz as is traditional out came the guy with the eagle into the centre circle, raised his gauntleted arm and urged the magnificent bird to fly first a full circle of the upper tier, just above the heads of the fans and then another complete circuit of the lower tier, finally like a missile bulleting about 2ft off the ground across the half way line, putting on the brakes suddenly and landing back on the keeper’s arm.

     

     

    It was magnificent and even the Sporting Lisbon fans in with the Celtic support cheered and applauded.

     

     

    One of them turned to few of the Celtic Supporting Bhoys and Ghirls in his vicinity and asked….

     

     

    “Do you have anything like that at Celtic before games”.

     

     

    One of the lads (from Dennistoun) turned to him and replied….

     

     

    “Aye we don’t half….we’ve got a guy who dresses up as a dug!”

     

     

    Hail Hail

     

     

    Matt

  12. GFTB on 1st November 2019 8:59 pm

     

     

    Connor Hazard could be Dundee’s best signing this season 3 league wins on the trot since the young Tic goalie has joined them ..

     

     

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    When the very kind MWD and LennyBhoy helped me, Aidan and my Dad witness Celtic Together it was very special obviously. Connor was Closer than ever to see and he looked most excellent in the warm up. With The St Pats Coach staying strong and resisting the Massive Money on offer following Brendan, Celtic have a Gem of a Coach.

     

     

    Well Done on the new contract Scottie Bain.

     

     

    Celtic HARDCORE.

  13. Melbourne Mick: Dr. Marc is doing fine and happily in the same job for the last two years. Still living at home but saving up for his own place. Thanks for asking. He says hi and wishes Paddy a speedy recovery.

     

     

    Hope all is well with yourself.

  14. Edouard isnae all that fussed about being Adored, it seems to me, he Loves playing for Celtic and he really is appreciative of what he has.

     

     

    Seeing the delight in him makes me happy, Olivier is a moody Motherf*cker and that is irritating me.

  15. Vogue… Cheers

     

    So much respect for Auldheid and the guys.

     

    In time, these bhoys will and should be remembered regardless of the outcome.

  16. I was at that St Mirren game at Poundland, a wire mesh from the roof of the stand got pulled down……obviously a Health and Safety Risk at that time…

  17. Come on Lenny and the Bhoys.

     

     

    Win, Lose or Draw we will always be there.

     

     

    If we Lose the morra I hope the Support stay and give THIS Celtic team a massive round of applause for going so many Must Win games winning them and the Silverware.

     

     

    Grace

  18. Rock tree bhoy… Do you have a link to DD saying the word ‘relegated’ from your post the other day?

     

    Not being arsey at all just really interested in the actual words.

  19. The Referee Team Sheet is an absolute Cracker.

     

     

    The most insidious team – appointed from the depths of the SFA/LRA. VARed out of mega money. Such a shame.

  20. marspapa!!!!! you might remember me from a couple of years ago , i recently saw you post about lourdes and your wifes mobility issues, i to have similar issues and consequently have two mobility scooters.. one for hamilton and one for abroad, the latter conforms to all airlines and airports (basically it folds down and has a dry battery) …..why dont you pick it up and see if mrs M is comfortable with it before you go? it has really enhanced my jaunts…….no need to stagger home :)

  21. VAR in Scotland would have 3 ex Referees in a Lodge situated @ Edmiston Drive.

     

     

    WOW – Fireworks.

     

     

    The Masons are a secretive bunch after all.

  22. Our performance levels are consistently high and I expect us to be in the league cup final come 8pm tomorrow. Usual caveats apply – cup game, reds and pens etc

     

     

    Can someone explain how a club that has never broken even, has amassed £45 million in losses in 5 years meets UEFA’s financial fair play obligations ?

  23. An Dun on 1st November 2019 10:54 pm

     

     

    Our performance levels are consistently high and I expect us to be in the league cup final come 8pm tomorrow. Usual caveats apply – cup game, reds and pens etc

     

     

    Can someone explain how a club that has never broken even, has amassed £45 million in losses in 5 years meets UEFA’s financial fair play obligations ?

     

     

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    I’m flabbergasted if I can. Its a satanic miracle.

  24. Hello again all you young rebels.

     

     

    ALMORE

     

    Good to hear your fine bhoy and professor is doing well.

     

    Haven’t heard back from our other eminent professor ( Celtic

     

    people are so learned ) BIGYINMILAN so Peter if you read this

     

    let me know your o.k.

     

    Paddy is a bit more lucid now and hasn’t lost his sense of humour

     

    apparently the nurse asked him if he needed a hand with his pee

     

    bottle and quick as a flash he replied ” yir hauns urny big enough hen ”

     

    Yup he’s back, a better start filling my wallet up again 8-))

     

    H.H . Mick

  25. @BroganRoganTrev

     

     

    According to a Judicial Panel, the rules, laws and regulations of @UEFA are not enforceable in Scotland by

     

    @ScottishFA who are the designated Licensing body appointed by @UEFA. It is also questionable whether the @ScottishFA can legally enforce its own rules in certain respects.

     

     

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    Does the above statement relate to SFA’s ability to enforce matters concerned within the 5 way agreement or does this encompass all regulatory matters current?

  26. Can I just put on record that tonight’s Gilbert O’Sullivan show at The Pavillion was one of the best 2 hours of live enterainment I’ve experienced in a long, long time. As British singer songwriters go he is up there with the best of them. 72 years old but has clearly looked after himself. Bucket list ticked.

     

    One more sleep….

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