Comments from Duff and Phelps yesterday that they were not in favour of changing the SPL voting system were intriguing. Kilmarnock chairman, Michael Johnston, was pretty blatant about his agenda when speaking to the BBC on Saturday, suggesting the actions of the Gang of 10 was a “pro-democracy movement” similar to the Arab Spring, saying:
“It might make it easier for the [Rangers] administrators to get whatever they are going to try to achieve whether it is a CVA or new company to be informed and re-joining the SPL and SFA.
“The support of the 10 clubs might be needed at some point.”
Too right the support of the other 10 clubs might be needed at some point if a new company is to join (not re-join, for goodness sake!) the SPL and SFA.
Back in October last year we predicted Rangers would be liquidated, a Newco would be formed and would be voted straight into the SPL, with only Celtic arguing the need to maintain sporting integrity. Everything we have heard since has reinforced this view.
The debate among the Gang of 10 has matured so far they see no issue in openly offering to support a Newco’s entry into the league in return for money (which we predicted earlier this month), mostly generated from Celtic fans, as it happens.
We await Johnston responding by sticking to his high-minded principles and telling any Newco they will not enjoy Kilmarnock’s support.
Duff and Phelps still have an enormous amount to achieve before they will even be in a position to apply for entry to the SPL on behalf of a Newco but if they do, they will surely offer the Gang of 10 a take-it-or-leave-it proposition. The Gang of 10 will take it. This debate is not about democracy, it’s about directors at clubs like Kilmarnock, who I believe now have debts of over £10m, finding a way to deal with their years of unchecked overspend.
The debate around St Mirren director, Ken McGeoch, would surely outrage sensibilities in any country in the world so I’m pleased his fellow directors have called for his resignation. In November last year McGeoch invited Rangers company secretary Gary Withey to a meeting at the St Mirren boardroom where he revealed player contract details.
St Mirren are up for sale and could be purchased for what previously amounted loose change at Ibrox; McGeoch met Withey to discuss him purchasing the club from his fellow directors and shareholders.
For a Rangers director, influence like that should be impossible to acquire.
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Dear OG..
I Have a Sneeky Feeling you are Cherry Mandarin with Your Expose..
Summa
McNair
If that is what the RTC guy has done then fair enough. I hope he has chosen the right person. So far I have been left distinctly unimpressed by Thompson.
Hail Hail
From twitter
Channel 4 guy has email from Ogilvie to John Greig about EBTs.It says they are all on them and how to bury the evidence.Fkn dynamite
Mort
Mort
can I have your baby ?
Hail Hail
There seems to be a lot of uncertainty as to what took place in the tunnel at the weekend which resullted in Neil Lennon’s non appearance for the second half. He demonstrated, pretty much as he normally does, and showed frustration at the sending off but didn’t go “over the top” by his standards.Is there any chance that Lennon was being protected by the police due to intelligence which may have suggested that he could possibly be in harms way if he appeared for the second half? Just asking.
I am a bit sceptical by nature so I may have this one totally wrong but not impossible for me anyway
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 28 March, 2012 at 14:32 said:
What specifically is being alleged, and who specifically is said to have been involved in the initial abuse and in the cover up?
What’s the evidence?
Who exactly is this Robert Green guy? What’s his background? He’s described variously as a journalist, a legal adviser or a campaigner. have you any idea?
Look at the people involved in backing the campaign. Look at the rest of what they do. Nutjobs invariably. There’s a reason for that.
Mort
whose twitter account ?
Hail Hail
Mort@14:56
Boom!
Good bye Mr Ogilvie
Duff & Duffer are milking a dead cow. They are financial bods..they really don’t care : they’re on an earner and will coast on it ’til the train hits the buffers. Then they’ll get the obligatory knuckle shuffle,pat on the back,”job well done” tosh. The whole stramash is a farce turning into scandal.
as much as OG rafferty has seen said evidence i will not jump up with joy
until its finally out there in the open with no way of defending it,
to many times we have been built up for it to a bit of a damp squib
Mort on 28 March, 2012 at 14:56 said:
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yeehah! do tell..
The Wire couldn't do better than this! HH!
ernie..,
so you’ve not read any of it, but dismiss it out of hand, and your trying to tell me about rational and logic, and thats no hun like, Hmm
Awe_Naw
Twitter account is from @hoopsghirl88
No idea about the reliability of it but maybe one of our fellow bloggers might know more.
Mort
miki67 on 28 March, 2012 at 13:51 said:
I’m excited at the prospect of seeing The Waterboys ra morra ; “An Evening with Mr. Yeats.”
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I flew over, from Germany, last week to see them in York. I had a brilliant day out with my mate, Jim the Tim, which was topped by an excellent concert from Mike Scott and the Waterboys. Enjoy!
Mort on 28 March, 2012 at 14:56 said:
Not quite right… but very close
danso_1888, 15:01
You are right to be cautious.
Which is why the lawyers are on it – and when it does go off it will be one hell of a bang
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Bhoys..HELP..
What is the Chance of the Final Huns game being 1st game after the Split..21/21nd April..
Please..
Summa
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 28 March, 2012 at 15:02 said:
‘ernie..,
so you’ve not read any of it,’
You see that’s where you’re going wrong.
You’re making assumptions. Jumping to conclusions.
I asked you what the case was about not because I don’t know (I do, I looked into it when it first surfaced) but to find out what you know and just how much of it you believe.
Do you believe Elish Angolini is involved in the cover up?
O.G Rafferty
Thompson has not done one thing that cannot be considered to be old news via traditional or new media
Interestingly RTC´s morsel was in relation to a former ex male model so that rules out the purported Ogilvie and Grieg email for sure ????
Hail Hail
Whats £3 Million when the milions & millions uf huns all over the world have raised £250,000.
Funny to think we Tims have raised double that to send a wee girl to the USA for medical treatment…
HH
Also came across this place when I was in York, houses for the damned? :
http://www.crosbylendlease.co.uk/index.php?u=445
Mort
ok take that back
Hoopsghirl88 can I have your baby ?
Hail Hail
Summa of Sammi….
All depend when we clinch the league. If it is against Killie then no chance, as that would be the game we receive the trophy.
ASonOfDan on 28 March, 2012 at 15:08 said:
To be fair, it wasn’t only Tims involved.
O.G.Rafferty on 28 March, 2012 at 15:05 said:,
i hope your are right fine sir because i have been telling people for ages about
their cheating but most just think im sore about rangers winning, but its much
deeper than that its about vindicating my long held beliefs that they have always
been cheats like many other good celts who have been mocked especially by
the disgusting people who portray themselves as journalists.
http://www.blick.ch/news/ausland/fliegt-die-elgin-bald-in-die-luft-id1826385.html
Big news over here ….but not much in the UK
Hail HAil
Mort – OGR et al. Please let this be true. Not a rumour, or anything which cannot be substantiated, just true and proven to be true.
Pleeeeeeeaaase.
O.G.Rafferty on 28 March, 2012 at 15:04 said:
Mort on 28 March, 2012 at 14:56 said:
Not quite right… but very close
Are we likely to hear something by tomorrow evening?
O.G. Is the letter from Bain to Ogilvie – or vice versa ?
ernie lynch
Still reckon we raised more than £250,000.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo, 15:08
If Thomson had done nothing we wouldn’t be having this conversation and there wouldn’t be lawyers in Glasgow having quiet chats with their clients as I type.
The former male model features more prominently than others who may get a mention. Say a former Rangers legend. And maybe some players and coaches
OG Rafferty
is it fair to say that the email cannot be revealed unless
“in the interests of national security, public safety or the economic well-being of the country, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, or for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others”
Which means it can´t be revealed until the FTT announces its verdict ?
Hail Hail
ernie..,
if theres nothing in it why hasnt it been exposed as a big hoax ?
Why has there been no defamation cases ?
Why have the Scottish Govt been forced to hand over documentation ?
Again you attack people involved as if they are criminals, are they criminals ??
Evidence, the child was awarded criminal damages for rape.
Child identifies other perpetrators ( note you are very quick to dismiss the childs evidence)
Henriks Sombrero, 15:12
The best bit is the self-incrimination. There’s no hiding or blaming Murray as a sole trader in this one
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 28 March, 2012 at 15:14 said:
No
Paul67
Time for clubs to get real
No supporter would want to share what they pay to watch their team to go to other clubs with poor business records and because of their record they could not be depended upon to spend the extra wisely?
As C Obs said on Rtc yesterday it would only pay off the debt or if debt was under control put more money into the same standard of player. So one club’s standards lower,the other’s do not rise and although the competition is stronger the football is not very atttactive, a bit like the Juniors actually.
Now here is an alternative, instead of hanging on to Celtic’s coatails SUPPORT a move for them (and Rangers if they recover and become a dominant force in respect of the clubs remaining.)
Take the intrinsic skew out of Scottish football by removing the cause of the skew, the much bigger crowds both attract. That is never going to change.
In return for that support look for financial assistance in the form of an annual sum for say 5 years to help the remaining clubs adjust.
That money to come from the additional income being free of SPL restraints would bring in to Celtic.
Lets start to get real here. Let Celtic go, allow an Undet something team play in their stead, let Celtic represent what is the best not only of Scottish football, but also an attitude of encouragement and wishing others well instead of the self serving churlish attitude that is destroying the best in us.
Let Celtic be the ambaddadors of the best Scotland can offer not a mirror of the worst in us.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 28 March, 2012 at 15:14 said:
It’s not dependent on the FTT
O.G.Rafferty on 28 March, 2012 at 15:14 said:
I’m sure if the lawyers rule it out there are other means by which it could escape into the public domain.