Q. There will be 12 teams in the SPL next season. How many do you think stand to gain from the redistribution of income proposed by the Gang of 10?
A. 11.
Q. There will be 30 teams in the SFL next season. How many do you think stand to gain from the redistribution of income proposed by the Gang of 10?
A. 30.
Although TV and commercial money will be diluted, it is a sideshow compared to the real cash cow remaining in Scottish football, the gate money at Celtic Park. The Gang of 10 refused to exclude this option from their proposed change in voting rights.
A 20% share of gate money doesn’t have sufficient support from SPL clubs, too many losers. A 30% gate share only has one loser, everyone else wins, including the club who took 87 fans to a league game at Celtic Park last season.
This is nothing to do with Sevco, who are unlikely to pull a financially viable plan together (although the SPL and SFA are still trying). You’re being asked to open your wallets and pay for the upkeep of 42 stadiums, squads, boards of directors and kit men.
This is not a viable plan. It’s time for Scottish football to admit defeat. Sport has been subverted for over a decade to the point there is nothing left. We can keep Hampden and the national team going, but there is no viable league structure. The sooner we accept this and move on the better.
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ESPN cancelled (it was gash anyway) SKY was getting cancelled but decent chap from the East coast of Scotland let me have my whole package for half price until the end of Dec. Poor show for a militant like me…..
But hey, a deal is a deal.
Try going to a game now and then you never know you may even grow to like it.
RobertTressell on 28 June, 2012 at 17:05 said:
That’s exactly what PL will say :)
The song lyric super-bore refers to another poster as an irritant.
Whatever
Ulysses
The resort of aghia gallini on the south side of crete is a lovely spot.
HH
SIALF
Five senior players trained at Moonbeams Park today along with five juniors, and three out of contract.
Div 3 if at all CSC
RobertTressell @17:05
You should have stayed strong brother.
They tried the same with me earlier but the bloke was quickly off the blower when I told him where to shove it!
solidarity.csc
HH
/Bishop B
Paul 67
Re earlier post about cancelling Sky and ESPN…..
I take it you’ll be dropping ESPN advert from top of this page?
timmy7
If the Celtic support equates to only those who attend matches, Celtic are a very poorly supported club. Sometimes only 25000 supporters care about Celtic’s cup performances (following your logic)
This is your view, is it not?
Most people who follow Celtic believe the club to be one of the biggest supported teams in the world.
Presumably, you do not share this view.
Stop talking pash!
HH
So Celtic….. Gie’s some of you gate money.
Naw.
OK then.
End of story
Hearing that Mercedes Benz, VW & Porsche all want some of BMWs money because they’re all part of the German Automakers Association.
Ain’t gonna happen
A minute’s applause for the late Michael Jackson’s tiger, Thriller, who has died of cancer at the age of 13.
Whether the proposed Scottish football structure changes come to pass or not is of secondary importance.
What is of absolute importance is that someone is even trying this reorganisation scam.
Paul67 has set hares off on this one several times recently and given the supporting evidence in the press plus the lack of any comment from the games’ guardians, I assume there is substance in it.
That being so, the GAME is already over. It is already too corrupt. Even if the logistics defeat what is being proposed, the fact such actions are being pursued condemns those who govern our SPORT.
The McLeish report has been largely ignored for a long time, it seems because the priority of the custodians of our game has been to limit the damage caused by apparent demise of OldRangers since 2008 when Smith declared the bank was in charge.
Now we are expected to believe it is wildly important that the leagues are restructured and greater fairness is applied to the distribution of money. And this must be done with the utmost haste 4 weeks before the seasons starts.
The motivation is simply to shoehorn NewRanegrs into as high a league as possible with as minimal a penalty for past sins as possible.
And why? The financial impact ? – There will be winners and losers. Opportunities will emerge for many and some who have built their business model on playing a “Rangers” will suffer.
But no – it is “Rangers” preservation uber alles. I don’t even care why – do they hate Celtic so much? Is the preservation of what Rangers stands for so important?
The fans have spoken and the clubs have listened. A sensitive and canny governing Head would recognise the opportunity to ride this wave of unity to take forward the game on many levels – including a well thought out and presented road map to deliver action that will meet the McLeish principles.
Irrespective of what actually pans out, and it looks unlikely NewRangers will be ready to take their golden spoon, we must take whatever action is needed to break the SFA, SPL and SFL, to highlight the movers in this farce be they the obvious ones like Ogilvie, Regan and Doncaster, or whomever, and drive them from our game forever.
We need proper governance, simplified, stream lined, and independent, auditable, measurable, accountable, delivering value for money as a service SUPPORTING and FACILITATING the playing of professional football. It must be populated with independent people fit to fulfil the role given them and the rules and regs independently reviewed and rewritten by legal consultants. There are many more ideas e.g. outsourcing refereeing as a service; single governing body; outsourcing disciplinary processes etc etc.
Celtic account for 33% of the customer base and probably more of the income for professional football in this country. If we cannot force the end to this shameless criminal cabal then who can? The only leverage open to us is financial and we should withdraw financial support to the whole of Scottish football until the games governance is restructured as McLeish recommended.
Cos we ain’t got anywhere else to play and so we should make Scottish football the best it can be. Today it is absolutely corrupt from the very top. Improvement should be a relatively easy target to hit. That is the prize worth fighting for irrespective of whether it ends up being Newco, Oldco or Noco.
HH
TLK
What is in that “Loving Cup” (boak)?
Whytey: “Oh…er…ah…er…oh…eh…ah…er…a…toast…to…er…ah…her…ma…jest…eeee…ah…the…qwee…ae…a…n.”
Goats blood?
Caprine Fromage?
Wolf Spittle?
Juice of pure evil?
Milk from the Whore of Babalons withered tit?
Juice from an adrenal gland?
Satans spawn?
Buckfast?
merseycelt lmfao.
No its not actually,you are wrong.Not in everything you state just most of it.
…..oh, oh!
I tried to cancel my Sky sub too but the guy said I didnt have one in my name. Put phone down quickly
RIP ole Thriller
I feel sullied now. I took murdoch’s shilling.
Ah well.
re article.
it’s difficult to know what can be done about this scenario if the vast majority of the members vote it through?
if we stop going to away games there’s nothing to suggest they wont ask for a bigger chunk of our gate receipts.
stopping short of not buying season tickets and non attendance of home matches what can be done to punish the other members for voting these changes through? (not an option for me)
we’re well and truly fecked and there’s very little we can do about it.
Bottom line is no away games if this comes to pass.
Their accountants won’t be long in explaining the maths to them.
Feck em.
Is there a link to a video of Browns statement last night ?
Embdae have an Apple TV set top box?
So McCoist didn’t turn up today. Has he decided not to transfer to Newco?
I hope none of those who DID turn up did so because of his rallying cry a few days ago. They might feel a bit betrayed.
Henriks Sombrero-A page or 2 back.
Here’s why the threat of us boycotting doesn’t matter. 1/3 of a home gate vs eg Motherwell is more than the total gate they’d receive for their home game against us.
The wee teams will make more money regardless of a boycott. They only lose if we don’t play at all.
Sorry to hear about Thriller. He had a good innings right enough. I like tigers. I was particularly upset when Tony the Tiger died a few years ago…I haven’t eaten frosties since.
dont know if it’s possible to get any further off topic but here goes anyway:
Anyone else gutted at the news Beckham hasnt been selected for the Brit football team?
Foxy-gutted a bit strong,but might have been the final curtain on a fine career,by and large as footballers go, I thought he was a very good role model for kids.
Luckily ole Thriller has been spared the additional torment of hearing about Davie Beckham’s exclusion from the GB squad. His place has gone to John Fleck, so it’s an ill wind…
Oh and could folk stop repeating the mantra about Newco in Div 3?
And when you see this presented as the solution, challenge it.
There is no basis in the rules for Newco in Div 3. Liquidated is dead.
Newclub = follow the rules for a Newclub.
Follow the rules. That is the only solution.
Follow the damn rules.
HH
TLK
Paul 67
You are correct , the away gate thing is not a viable plan and hey it is just floated out there by the MSM to goad Celtic, so everytime it comes up, I would just ignore it.
There is a serious point in that there must be very few leagues in Europe (we may even be unique) , where the distrribution of resources and finances is tilted so dramatically in one club’s favour.
Looking ahead, we may need to win the league another 5 or 6 years at a total canter, get as many cups as we can , and be ready for a move when EPL gets goosed. It would be ironic if HMRC following on from their sterling work in the Dignity scandal, played a similar hand with 4 or 5 top EPL outfits who in turn suffered a similar fate to the erstwhile Dignity ……… is that what we need, a massive corruption scandal in the EPL to get a move down there?
Or a move to a European based league , not holding my breath on that one.
Chillpillcfc
Robert Tressell :’Bottom line is no away games if this comes to pass. ‘
The bottom line is the big house must stay open. I thought we were all clear on that one;)
HH
Well Worth Repeating:
any initiative that is truly in the interests of 41 of the 42 senior teams in Scotland should be supported. If it is good for Scottish Football, it is good for Celtic.
Also, well said ernie lynch and quonno.
Please!, could we all stop reacting to these ‘non-events’ that are being rolled out on an almost daily basis! Truth be told, that’s what they all lack, ‘basis’!.
They have nowhere to go, hence all this silly posturing by officials of our supposedly
governing body’s, this is all just a ‘sounding board’ for our incompetent officials, who are digging a hole for themselves. To quote paul67, ‘ do not interrupt those who insist on
making the ‘hole’ larger!
They will not play anywhere again!
Help required, I paid for my ST on the 2nd June and have still not received it. Anyone tell me how long it takes to come through? Thanks in advance. HH
STV Sport @STVSport
SFL clubs have been threatened that SPL will form breakaway SPL2 if they do not agree to plans to put Rangers in Div 1 http://bit.ly/MBgpnt
timmy7
Got you?
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Auldheid @ 16.54
No offence but my interpretation of your post is that you don’t know the answer to the question I posted earlier, no issue with that but struggling to work out why you bothered to post a reply.