It has been another busy news day but for now we’ll concentrate on the two most important matters.
10 SPL clubs, excluding Celtic and Rangers, have arranged to meet next week. This is the most significant news since Craig Whyte bought Rangers in May last year. One SPL chairman told the BBC:
“With the Old Firm having talked in the past about leaving Scottish football, we have had to think about a future without them.
“Part of that situation could be about to come true, so we have had time to think about how we would get on without them.”
The smaller 10 SPL clubs have a once-only opportunity to redraw the power and financial map in Scottish football. They want more of your money and this is their chance to get it. They also want to be able to vote crazy ideas into the league that benefit teams without many fans or good players.
This is perfectly understandable and expected. The distribution of TV income currently favours successful clubs, who are invariably featured most often. Smaller clubs want to change this into a more equitable distribution model. You and I will still buy the overwhelming majority of subscriptions, but our club will receive less cash from the TV deal.
“Part of that situation” refers to an SPL without Rangers. This meeting is likely to end Newco Rangers hopes of getting straight back into the SPL in their tracks. Without knowing the numbers in favour of a change, this looks like the killer blow, delivered before any proposition from Craig Whyte reaches the agenda.
We have discussed the need for Whyte to present a fait-accompli in order to get his wish. Having been unable to do that, others had the opportunity to organise and make alternative plans.
The other important occurrence today was the attendance at the Rolls Building courts in London today by HMRC lawyers, keen to secure any monies seized from Collyer Bristows’ client account last week. HMRC have made it perfectly clear they are all over Duff and Phelps and will seek court intervention to secure their rights.
This is significant.
You can make what you like about a more even distribution of SPL TV money, or the possibility of being held to ransom in future by bad teams who want to vote themselves out of relegation, but the only thing we know for sure is that this has been a profoundly bad day for Craig Whyte and anyone else hoping to phoenix a Newco Rangers.
In light of today‘s developments, Mr Whyte and the administrators have some thinking to do before announcing any plans tomorrow.
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You have to feel sorry for Port Vale don`t you?
ScotPatsFan
Remember now, about 40,000 showed up and gave the Celtic team a standing ovation as they went round the park at the end.
Mon the Bilbao!
bournesouprecipe on 8 March, 2012 at 20:22 said:
Not really when you consider that the Scotland Manager has no class, no style, no humility, no cojones, I could go on and on…
SP
i am hosting some Chinese visitors next week. gambling mad they are. going to take them to the govan casino but can’t find it on maps. anyone got the address ¿ yours in jelly saint stiv
bournesouprecipe on 8 March, 2012 at 20:22 said:
Yes, it’s a funny country we live in where the Scotland Manager has every sympathy for Ally McCoist, but no comment on Neil Lennon last year?
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Yep, I noted that and found it disgraceful. Selective memory syndrome at play.
bournesouprecipe
The outpouring of grief for the `cheeky chappie` is remarkable.
Poor Alistair indeed.
Starry Plough,
you forgot no integrity – national job bought for silence
So Whytie is not a secured creditor? What’s the betting that one of his companies is!
What a tangled web!
Sunday 8th
In a few hours time I shall be twenty-seven grand years of age. Paradoxically it will be a happy enough birthday; perhaps that’s because I am free in spirit. I can offer no other reason.
I was at Mass today, and saw all the lads minus their beards, etc. An American priest said Mass and I went to Communion. One of the lads collapsed before Mass, but he’s all right now. Another was taken out to Musgrave military hospital. These are regular occurrences.
I am 60.8 kgs today, and have no medical complaints.
I received another note from my sister Bernie and her boyfriend. It does my heart good to hear from her. I got the Irish News today, which carried some adverts in support of the hunger-strike.
There is a stand-by doctor who examined me at the weekend, a young man whose name I did not know up until now. Little friendly Dr Ross has been the doctor. He was also the doctor during the last hunger-strike.
Dr Emerson is, they say, down with the ‘flu… Dr Ross, although friendly, is in my opinion also an examiner of people’s minds. Which reminds me, they haven’t asked me to see a psychiatrist yet. No doubt they will yet, but I won’t see him for I am mentally stable, probably more so than he.
I read some wild-life articles in various papers, which indeed brought back memories of the once-upon-a-time budding ornithologist! It was a bright pleasant afternoon today and it is a calm evening. It is surprising what even the confined eyes and ears can discover.
I am awaiting the lark, for spring is all but upon us. How I listened to that lark when I was in H-5, and watched a pair of chaffinches which arrived in February. Now lying on what indeed is my death bed, I still listen even to the black crows.
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Can’t keep up with this story. It’s bewildering.
I wouldn’t worry too much about the Diddy 10 Summit. It’s not surprising they will try to use this situation to break the “OF” stranglehold on SPL decision-making. There are plenty of bones Celtic can throw – many detailed above. The important thing is they feel confident enough to hammer RFC (or its successors).
If they didn’t intend to do this, if they were planning to be supine and roll over to RFC, then I don’t think they would need to get round a table to discuss it.
Saint Stivs
Is that the £700 million Hotel/Casino that was being built at ibroke?
Administration has given Alistair a free pass for being the worst rangers manager I can remember!!
If it transpires that the 10 other teams demand a larger slice of the available monies for the scalp of the Huns, then as that would be in the best interests of Scottish football then I assume we would have to accept their proposal, after everything Ned Flanders and the muppets has spouted about for the past fee months.
One fine misty morning a gang of ten dwarfs met at the secret castle high up in the silver beanstalk. They had a big chimps tea party with the mad hatter refereeing on his chocolate throne. They ate magic donuts, drank the stardust wine and then they danced and frolliced with the pixies, singing: “we will steal the pot of gold from the end of the rainbow at paradise and keep it all for ourselves”. Tthey were greedy little dwarfs- and we know what happens to bad elves don’t we bhoys and ghirls?
I wouldn’t be so sure, paul67.
I’m all for a fairer distribution of TV cash to be honest. It won’t drastically affect us, but would certainly help the rest.
What jumped out to me from the unnamed chairman’s statement was the mention of an SPL 2. Could this not be the safest way to ensure RFC will return reasonably promptly and be seen to suffer a token punishment, given that moral hurdles are building to hinder fast-track re-admittance to SPL and also with Docaster’s claim that “The SFL can’t take Rangers”?
If the ten clubs are meeting to decide which club gets all the huns fans, I’d propose Gretna Green.
Then they can be with all the other folk who ‘dont do runnin away.’
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 8 March, 2012 at 20:28 said:
I didn’t have the brass neck to put integrity in there when talking about such an individual if you remember I was livid on here when a few suggested we have him at Celtic Park.
His true colours are showing now and not just him!!
SP
Personally, if it means that they are gone for good from Scottish football and that EVERYONE shared a level playing field, I would not be too concerned if the others wanted a bigger share of the TV revenues. It might make for a more competitive league and more entertaining games, which I would be all for. It might even make for a good Scottish international team, which would be a great bonus. If teams felt able to concentrate on playing attractive football, young players might blossom.
DreamsaremadeofthisCSC.
But… but… but… he’s a billionaire! It’s there in black and white… it’s “off the scale”….
sure, they could’ve tried to verify it, and ask for some substantiation, but that would just be cynical paranoia! C’mon, where’s the trust in this world?
Any minute now, he’s gonna slap 500 million in… and the casino is gonna come to life
My pet Unicorn, the one that sings “Some Day My Prince Will Come”, is dancing upside down on my ceiling. I hate that Unicorn
blantyretim on 8 March, 2012 at 20:28 said:
Sunday 8th
In a few hours time I shall be twenty-seven grand years of age. Paradoxically it will be a happy enough birthday; perhaps that’s because I am free in spirit. I can offer no other reason.
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Blantyre tim: 60.8 kgs? I know your lying! Ma d*#k weighs more than that!
I’m a bit overweight but weigh 118kg…you would be dead if you weighed that! Jeez ma dobie weighs over 40kg!
Fibber.
wonkyradar on 8 March, 2012 at 20:37 said:
Blantyre tim: 60.8 kgs? I know your lying! Ma d*#k weighs more than that!
I’m a bit overweight but weigh 118kg…you would be dead if you weighed that! Jeez ma dobie weighs over 40kg!
Fibber.
engage your brain before you post clown
IF you don’t mind the rankers manager would prefer to be known hereafter as per his Indian name “allytwocontracts “
starry plough
Totally agree, Aunt Sally being dubbed ‘Kingmaker’ this morning was hilarious. He has the poorest record of any manager in their history.
He brought about all this just as much as Whyte by failing to qualify for Europe and being papped out of every cup.
HH
Am I right in saying that if we tender our resignation we would have to wait out our two year notice period without the benifit of an European licence?
Unless we had already bought another club – in peril – in another league that would welcome our stability? (just thinking out loud)
Est
We used to call that the Grand Old Duke of York. lol
Celtic should be applying to one of the lower level English Leagues and working there way into the EPL.
Bring it on.
TT
Maybe i’ve got the wrong end of the stick – but while Ticketus are still in the picture, can’t see how old or new huns would offer a better deal on gate money.
I mean, when you’ve already pawned 50% – then giving the other 50% away would literally leave you playing for feck all.
I would expect a push for better TV money redistribution (might allow them to maintain the status quo as the telly money would be less anyway) plus some element of league reconstruction.
I could imagine the huns supporting league reconstruction – I can imagine us not giving a monkeys provided the huns play in wahtever ‘lower’ league is appropriate.
When all is said and done, if they lose their history, half their neat term revenue to Ticketus and suffer a bit of public humiliation – whats not to like?
Seanbhoy
I think you’ll find that that was actually referred to as the SUPER MEGA-SUPER CASINO.
I believe Mister Sir David Mister Murray spent a cajillion (Don’t ask – we can’t understand the circles these men move in) on the plans alone.
In fact the plans were so good, so perfect yet so intricate and slaveishly worked upon that they had to hire a helicopter to transport them to the offices dealing with the applications.
fact
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bournesouprecipe on 8 March, 2012 at 20:15 said:
Will make for a good pub quiz, with options B and C being Wayne biggins and Sebo respectively..
Let the Gang of Ten focus on the TV money. There needs to be a slightly more even split although we cant lose the point of encouraging winning.
We know there will be a minimum TV ‘pot’ at the end of the year. Currently 18 million. Perhaps it is fairer if the money is divided pro-rata based on points accrued rather than league position. If the league finished today there is a total of 465 points which translates to a little over GBP 38,700 per point.
Not sure if this will come out. Numbers in brackets are negative.
Team Points Pro-rata Position-based Difference
Celtic 75 2,903,226 3,060,000 (156,774)
Them 54 2,090,323 2,700,000 (609,677)
Motherwell 51 1,974,194 1,710,000 264,194
Dundee Utd 40 1,548,387 1,530,000 18,387
St Johnstone 40 1,548,387 1440000 108,387
Hearts 39 1,509,677 1,350,000 159,677
Aberdeen 33 1,277,419 1,260,000 17,419
Kilmarnock 33 1,277,419 1,170,000 107,419
St MIrren 31 1,200,000 1,080,000 120,000
ICT 27 1,045,161 990,000 55,161
Hibernian 23 890,323 900,000 (9,677)
Dunfermline 19 735,484 810,000 (74,516)
Most teams come out ahead. What if any TV money from European adventures was also added to the pot? Maybe the rest of the SPL may start to get behind their representatives rather than cheering on the opposition, and also distributing it means that there is no Winner-Takes-All attitude to risk.
I can imagine celtic are well aware of the minnows meeting .If we are not represented at it then its by choice. I wont lay a wager with the outcome of there meeting , but if any decision made helps keep them in there proper place ,propping up the foot of the 3rd division then respect to them .But would prefer us to use this scenario to get out of this country , celtic not raising any objections .to new co ON THE CONDITION THAT THEY WERE NEVER ALLOWED OUT THIS COUNTRY .Of course the laptop loyal would continue telling all that scottish football needs CELTIC not
jimtim
oglach/wonkyradar
Ard Macha has for a couple of years now posted the writings of Bobby Sands MP.
I missed his post tonight…
TinyTim on 8 March, 2012 at 20:39 said:
Yes Yes and Yes
wonkyradar on 8 March, 2012 at 20:37 said:
I take it you’ve had a few?
I sencerly hope so
Forgot to mention in case anyone didn’t know at the end of Feb the Italian city of Florence City Council voted to name a street after Bobby Sands. There was a discussion and when it came to a vote 33 city councillors out of 34 voted in favour of the street naming and there was just one abstention.
Keep the other clubs happy, split the Ragers TV money between them. With us keeping the same percentage as we have now.
TT
If it happened we wouldn’t get into European competition again……..