The Daily Record’s political editor today published information obtained from the Scottish Government by a Freedom of Information Request, where Police Scotland note Newco “actively engaged” supporters to break lockdown rules in March this year.
Following Newco’s game with St Mirren on 6 March, Police Scotland received assurances from Newco that they would encourage fans to stay at home. The Police memo stages, “Whilst assurances were given this did not materialise.”
The Police go on to stage Newco made “numerous statements encouraging celebration, including from the manager (Steven Gerrard).”
“Both the Manager and players actively engaged from within the stadium with fans gathered in disgraceful displays of encouragement, in solid opposition to the public safety issues arising, to their responsibilities given the privileges under which football operates, and to the commitments they had made around public communications.”
The Government should have acted on this information in March. Football privileges were being actively flouted by one club but it took further incidents this month before Nicola Sturgeon felt it necessary to take on Newco. This is in stark contrast to her grabbing the mic. when Celtic followed her own rules during their trip to Dubai.
You will see not contrition from Newco. Instead, they will deflect and distract. Let them sink in their own sewage.
Gangster clubs operate across Europe. They stir-up identity sentiment among brutish fans and intimidate politicians who need to fish in the same identity waters. It takes brave political leadership to stop the rot.
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The SFA must now act on probability as per the current norm. . Guilt by association should be high on the agenda.
HH to all.
Humza Yousaf
TONYROME on 23RD MAY 2021 12:18 PM
ERNIE LYNCH
Is that a factual reply or just your take on it.
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It’s my understand that if a couple of bigots sit in their living room all day long and shout FTP at each other they are not committing a criminal offence provide the public aren’t affected.
And I suspect that the huns will have used that line about the events in the video.
What I think is needed is an unequivocal statement from Police Scotland as to whether or not the video was genuine.
yeh just vote out those democratically voted in.The sooner we get back to ra wee lanurkshir cabal that was wee jack led.
300,000 iraqi dead,ordinary wee working class iraqis blown apart by the party of the working class in the UK.
water of a ducks back taking criticism of the party of the working class who bailed out the bankers.each time i see criticism i think he knows “Tony bombed his own party as well as spreading all those little brit aerospace bomblets in Iraq.
if only Tony hadnt
‘I don’t blame Rangers Football Club, in fact I actually have, believe it or not, a very constructive relationship with Rangers Football Club. I’m not here to defend fans, or so called fans, who took part in that kind of behaviour’
Humza Yousaf
DREW1967 on 23RD MAY 2021 12:32 PM
Well said Humza Yusaf.
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Well this is what he said.
‘I don’t blame Rangers Football Club, in fact I actually have, believe it or not, a very constructive relationship with Rangers Football Club.’
Any labour and unionist comment on last sundays anti catholic ?
or are they going down the sectarian two cheeks o same erse?
have the confused and unvoteable mess picked a leader?
Actions speak louder words.
All I’ve seen so far are words.
Threat of action has been the introduction of ‘strict liability’ and/or an ‘independent football regulator’ i.e punish/regulate everyone instead of tackling the problem at source (the Huns).
TINYTIM on 23RD MAY 2021 11:49 AM
Having watched Hibs yesterday…
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Agreed. Nothing on display in the final or both semi finals looked that impressive, although Boyle was decent in the semi.
I’ve watched some of the English lower league games in the past couple of weeks and there seemed to be better players there. That said, it’s difficult to compare players in relative terms.
SONSOFERIN on 23RD MAY 2021 10:51 AM
Ziggydoc1 – Yeah I watched the Brentford v Bournemouth game.
Toney looked decent without really standing out, a busy, energetic and athletic forward. He showed up around the pitch, got stuck in and fought for the ball, while still managing to be thereabouts whenever Brentford got into the opposition box. He managed a few duff touches, passes, or shots around the box, but then most players do. What I didn’t see was close skill on the ball, the type Eddie has.
Looked like a 10-15m player. Is he 30m? Yesterday didn’t convince me, but it’s just one game and I could end up eating my words.
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That’s a really good analysis and similar to what I thought. Only my first time seeing him.
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I don’t normally watch English football, but wanted to see what Ivan Toney was like. I must say I totally agree with you pair. But, as pointed out, it was one game.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57144156
THE BLOGGER FORMERLY KNOWN AS GM on 23RD MAY 2021 11:51 AM
I was thinking more about Mark Walters.
I am not in any way condoning the treatment Mark Walters received when he played against us from some of our support.
However, he only seems to appear when the dead carcass of the club he used to play for are involved in sectarian incidents…coincidence or what?
ERNIE LYNCH
Cheers Ernie that was my understanding too but I don’t know if it’s factual. I also totally agree with your last sentence. See below
“What I think is needed is an unequivocal statement from Police Scotland as to whether or not the video was genuine.”
KEEP THE FAITH
Are the football authorities investigating the sevco video footage?
Just because criminality is not established does not mean that the game hasn’t been brought into disrepute. I know it won’t achieve much but what is left of the integrity (aye right) of the game demands rules be applied.
https://kassiesa.net/uefa/qual2021.html
EL – he did not backtrack on anything, he called out anti racism agains catholic / irish community. He qualified that he said ‘if’ and accepted police investigate same as he did last week.
He said he had a constructive relationship with sevco, what do you expect him to say given the backdrop? Or did you expect him to follow the long labour and tory path of deflecting and blaming the minority?
Also I call bollocks on your description of SNP being somehow different from other parties regards what politicians say, dont say. If your not an independent your required to follow the political party line. If not you’ll soon be gone, that’s how it works as you well know.
HH
Great read back🙄, same old characters rolling out the same old arguments, that we’ve read for the Zillionth time.
Mon the Humza
GREENPINATA on 23RD MAY 2021 12:29 PM
Get him bevied Jimmy and have a sing song.
Then ask him the questions 😃
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I am WAY ahead of you Mate, as the thought had crossed my mind. I do NOT go into Pubs for One or Two Pints, its a waste of time.
Mr Mason will need to step up to the Drinking Plate, IF he wishes to hang aboot with me ?
Only JOKING of course.
LOL
HH.
STEPHBHOY67 on 23RD MAY 2021 1:52 PM
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100% Correct young man.
HH.
BIG JIMMY on 23RD MAY 2021 2:06 PM
STEPHBHOY67 on 23RD MAY 2021 1:52 PM
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100% Correct young man.
HH.
Quality of argument right there 🤣😂
The unanswered question is
Was the video genuine or not?
This is not addressed in Police Scotland’s statement.
If genuine then there must be at least two loop holes in play
One to prevent the f the Pope add on being an offence
One to exclude the event from the existing Covid regulations about drinking indoors
However, if genuine, then this should be made clear, as, criminal or not, it shows them up for what they are and creates an issue with the SFA and SPL
So one question – ‘Is the video genuine?
Watched most of the Brentford game yesterday.
Can’t say that I was overly impressed with Toney. Thought he looked like a championship player. Jensen and Mbuemo were the 2 best players.
I watch Toney every week. He has been slightly “off form” for the last month but he has the ability to defend, link play, score goals…and is possibly the best penalty taker playing anywhere.
Aye sure, Celtic dodged a bullet…
Sheffield United £90m for finishing bottom of the EPL
St.Tams
so what are you saying? we should sign Toneý? :-)
HH
ootcsc:-)
Big Jimmy
John Mason will give you nothing but the pint. I can assure you he will give no strong opinion, in private, other than to repeat the Party Line which is- we needed the OBaF Act to deal with this but it was voted down so we need Celtic fans to get behind Strict Liabilty now, otherwise our hands are tied (which is a lie). Sad to see a few Football supporters groups, like the SFSA, which constantly spouts SNP propaganda, getting behind this. James Forrest even gave the idea houseroom before dismissing it but, I believe Auldheid and others are willing to consider it, which, to me, is a big mistake.
They believe they can legislate to make us all good little Scotsmen in their own image. But they haven’t yet demonstrated an ability to legislate sensibly to solve the conundrum of what constitutes offensive. It speaks to a lack of confidence in our identity as a nation that we need to follow the one line.
Flag Fetishism and Faux Jacobite Costumes becoming compulsory are the next step.
Stebhoy67 -“Also I call b******s on your description of SNP being somehow different from other parties regards what politicians say, dont say.” Absolutely, remember this –
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_suspension_of_rebel_Conservative_MPs#:~:text=On%203%20September%202019%2C%20the,6)%20Bill%20on%204%20September
SCULLYBHOY on 23RD MAY 2021 12:53 PM
I’ve watched Toney a few times and I admit yesterday wasn’t his best game but he’s looked good all season in a competitive league. I think he’ll be in the Premier League next season with or without Brentford for around £25m.
I felt Toney was worth the expenditure but the board obviously did not want Toney and Edouard at the same time.
He has proven himself to be worth the money and he is one we missed out on.
However, it is no use hankering after him, Brendan Rodgers or Riquelme- they are not coming now. There are other promising strikers out there and we need to be looking at them, not Toney or McGinn, who have passed into the “too rich for us” sphere.
While we do not have an appointed manager, we are going to waste our time on “what if” speculations about season 20/21. Just as the US lost Vietnam, no amount of revisionist movies or speculations are gonna end with us winning 10 iar.
We lost our best ever chance of doing it but now we have to suck it up and get on with facing next seaso’s challenge. We have a week left in May to do step 1- Appoint a Bloody Manager
STEPHBHOY67 on 23RD MAY 2021 1:52 PM
‘EL – he did not backtrack on anything’
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This is what he said. So naughty, naughty ‘so called fans’ did a bad thing, but the club is blameless.
‘I don’t blame Rangers Football Club, in fact I actually have, believe it or not, a very constructive relationship with Rangers Football Club.’
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‘Also I call bollocks on your description of SNP being somehow different from other parties regards what politicians say, dont say.’
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Then you’ve absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.
On a more serious note…
I will continue to ask my MSP john mason ( whether I meet him or not ?), if he can CONFIRM if Police Scotland can answer the very simple questions…
” Was the Video Footage Doctored/Fake …or NOT ” ?
If the Cops advise him that it was indeed ” Doctored”…are Police Enquires continuing to find the Culprit…and IF not…why not ?
“IF the Video Footage was/is genuine, how can Police Scotland possibly state that there was NO Criminiality in relation to possible racist singing/chanting etc, and/or the FACT that the players and Staff were CLEARLY Breaking Covid rules by Drinking INSIDE a Bar etc” ?
I will TRY and get MSP Mason to get answers from the Cops ?
HH.”
Big Jimmy
Perhaps an email to the new Justice Minister might be useful.
I’d do it myself but I live in England.
Good luck
Ernie thats not all that he said.
you should get a job with with one of your unionist rags
BIG JIMMY
Perhaps you can suggest to your MSP to meet up
at same establishment as the hun player singalong
since that place has obviously no restrictions
regarding the sale of alcohol indoors or indeed 2m
distancing
Got same MSP Mason as you mate and could never get myself to
vote for him with that surname so stuck to labour as usual
although no confidence in them either
SONSOFERIN on 23RD MAY 2021 2:23 PM
Tory MPs rebelled against the party line.
Just as Labour MPs have done on countless occasions.
They’ll attack party policy. They’ll criticise party colleagues.
It happens all the time.
From time to time the parties discipline them.
But they still do it.
The SNP? Just doesn’t happen.
It’s interesting that the cult’s supporters are so woefully ignorant about how their cult operates and what it is that makes it a cult.
Here’s a clue. Dissent is not allowed. Criticism is not allowed.
FAO SFTB…
Yes, you are most probably right about only get a Pint out of him, but I will advise my MSP that there is ” NO Point” in us meeting UNLESS He has extracted Confirmation, as to whether the Video was Genuine or not ?
Also, WHY The Hun players and staff have NOT faced ” FINES” for Breaking the LAW in relation to the Scot Gov Covid Rules ?
Why have the Huns not been FINED/PUNISHED by The Scot Gov and/or the Cops also for allowing LAW Breaking on their Premisies ?
HH.
DREW1967 on 23RD MAY 2021 2:40 PM
Ernie thats not all that he said.
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I didn’t suggest it was all he said.
But he said it.
The Club is blameless.
Don’t ignore what he said because it doesn’t suit you. He said the Club is blameless. Deal with it.