Predicting what is about to happen in Scottish football is a bit of an art. We all realise that just about everyone has an agenda, so the first thing most of us do is ignore whatever overt line is being promoted by one or two sources of ill-repute, especially when they suggest that Sevco will definitely play football in the SFL First Division next season.
So far around 11 clubs have intimated they will vote against this proposal while only Stenhousmuir, the very club that stepped forward to give former SFA president George Peat a seat of the board after he completed his work with Airdrieoneans, have offered the Loyal support.
Apart from Stenhousmuir, only Stewart Regan and Neil Doncaster seem keen on the idea of allowing Sevco to start their sporting life in two levels up from the bottom.
Ally McCoist spoke some wise words to online channel, Rangers TV (current ownership model unclear). Having gained some first-hand managerial experience against Falkirk last season, McCoist knows that First Division football would give Sevco no guarantee of promotion. He complained that he has only six first team players at the moment, although didn’t add “and they are rubbish”.
There is also the suspicion that Sevco are not shifting a lot of season tickets, income levels could be acutely low, and their potential fans appear to have no more appetite for a grubby accommodation than anyone else. Apart from Stenhousmuir, Regan and Doncaster, of course.
McCoist addressed the prospect of additional punishments to be handed to Sevco for the misdemeanours of Rangers as a further reason to go straight to the bottom of the pile, however, he didn’t touch on the obvious point.
The only way Sevco are going to avoid penalties for Rangers EBT behaviour is if the former club is found to have acted correctly, or if Sevco make no claims to inherit Rangers club licence, name, badge or other unique identifiers.
Anyway, we have Inter Milan, Real Madrid and the Champions League qualifiers to look forward to. Bring them on!
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Win!
Win again, podium chasers!
Wooft
Where are you losers?
Peat – a total embarrassment.
saltires en sevilla on 6 July, 2012 at 12:11 said:
no, I’M Neil Lennon “i’ll never walk alone” (fourstonecoppi ) on 6 July, 2012 at 10:52 said:
anyone like to add to the list……..
newco
servco
cosco
tesco
partsco
chico
banco
narco
disco
fiasco
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Debaco ;)
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How about,
f*co f ………c.
Hail Hail
Podium warning siren goes off…
rumble, rumble…
Here they come…
Just logged on and on the dancefloor….
HH
Now claiming article reader’s podium win, too!
What a result!
Has any other club applied for the vacant space in the SFL?
If NO, why not.
As sally saus ‘ treat them like everybody else’.
Apply the laws without fear or favour.
No2newco.
Ouch ! words can bring such pain. (to bad lurkers)
Peat’s club backs Sevco. No shock there.
A bigger surprise was Findlay’s mob coming out against them. That;s a strange one for me.
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon on 6 July, 2012 at 12:34 said:
Green Eyed Monster
A couple of simple,naive questions as if I were an outside observer of this strange business.
How has Ogilvie managed to remain in place? Can no one have him removed?
Why have Doncaster & Regan not done the honourable thing and resigned after the completely incompetent and bizarre way they have dealt with things?
Why have A. McCoist and B. Brown not been arrested for incitement to violence?
And as an Arsenal supporting mate of mine said yesterday,who has no axe to grind whatsoever,and has just watched this unravel via the usual outlets,”My God, they’re a nightmare. How have they got away with this for so long?”
If Div 3 is not on offer and its either SPL 2 or bye bye ,we need to try to kick SPL2 into touch. Now lets see……erm, what’s left? Hmmmmmmmmmm….
Winning
Paul67
so the reality is if they remodel rebadge in a form that is akin to deadclub fc they are or may be liable for the previous debts and or subsequent liabilities?
kinda like
the sins my father bore?
Rules are rules are rules,
Spartans 1 Zombies 0
Irony Alert
http://youtu.be/49oim2dzWn8
Point of contention:
Yes, this is the smarmiest, most transparent fix ever to have slithered from the Shameless Hand Of Ogilvie.
BUt, on the probability that the Zombies ge tinto the 1st div, they will do so laden with penalties, including the transfer ban.
Where, exactly, in the variables of the universe is it written that this hastily thrown together rag-tag assortment of neuvo Huns ‘managed’ by the hapless McMoist will even be able to mount a promotion challenge?
There are more than one or two capable teams in the First wo could handle the Zombies.
Are they expecting a grand referee fix with the eyes of everyone on them?
Do they have the audacity to attmept such?
They are FAR from guaranteed a certain place in the SPL season after next.
The fact that Regan and Doncaster allude to their absence as being only one year either points to some grand mal fix or shows just how bloody hopeless the two of them are at their jobs.
Either way, celtic still ahve thew power to shoot down Ogilive and their heinous scams. It is a question of whether Celtic WANT to curtail the current fix; Catch 22 – return to status quo and millions per season from the OF games/ Zombies in a stronger financial position and CL: opportunities not a certainty.
Come on, PL. Wednesday’s statement was luke warm, appeasing at best.
Turn up the heat. Bear Celtic’s teeth. It’s almost time.
James Forrest @ 11 47
” It is not football , not as I know it ! – It’s corrupt ”
James Forrest paraphrasing the Raith Rovers Chairman .
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Thought I’d share my email response from Turnbull Hutton (Raith Rovers Chairman) after I’d contacted the club to praise them for their stance, and buy a child’s season ticket to be used for local kids.
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Many thanks for your email – appreciate you taking the time to write.
I’ve copied this to our commercial department (1 nice young lady so hardly a department per se) who will get in touch with you. I should tell you however that we decided to provide free child season tickets this year, so I’m not sure as to how we avail ourselves of your very kind offer!
Hopefully Laura may have a brainwave!! I’ll leave it to her.
Once again , thanks for your support.
Kind regards
Turnbull Hutton
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There appear to be many sound gentlemen with intergrity in the lower leagues that I’ve never heard of, or met, but I’ll be trying to support this one and as many others as I can.
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon on 6 July, 2012 at 12:34 said:
Peat’s club backs Sevco. No shock there.
A bigger surprise was Findlay’s mob coming out against them. That;s a strange one for me.
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Gordon methinks he protests too loudly ;)
HH
Longmuir and Co need to be told in no uncertain terms that they are there as servants to the association, not as dictators to the association.
The primary vote which should be proposed at the meeting is a vote of no confidence in the directors.
PaddyBhoy:
You know what? This has been a depressing and yet oddly uplifting period in the history of the game here.
There ARE men of integrity. A guy over on RTC just sent me a message to that effect saying, jokingly, “diddy teams are full of them”!
He is optimistic as you appear to be … and that lifts my own gloom a bit.
There’s a Celtic fan site running the suggestion that we should support Thistle in one of their own pre-season matches. I like the idea. It would be nice if the fans of our club and others could actually spend some of their time trying to attend games at smaller sides this season to show solidarity … and it would be a sight to see I think if they all wore their own club colours at those games.
It would be a wonderful demonstration of the unity of fans.
“…or if Sevco make no claims to inherit Rangers club licence, name, badge or other unique identifiers.”
as Paul said the other day, keep our eyes on Cowdenbeath.
Spivco
hen1rik,
Sorry for long delay: life gets in the way of even CQN.
Several months ago, when I was a new poster here, I tried to discuss with a frequent poster a point that he’d made. He very soon ran out of argument & resorted to abuse including obscenity. He wasn’t deleted or red-carded, tho’ I’d noticed Paul occasoinally do that to others. I stopped conversing with the scumbag, whom you may have noticed raving on for some time after. I was later advised – I think by The Exiled Tim – that the bad language rule wasn’t applied to all posters, which fits in with what you said. BTW doesn’t that remind you of a state of affairs that’s discussed every day in these pages?
Never mind Cowdenbeath….
Keep yer eye on Linfield….ticks all the boxes.
HH
Invercelt on 6 July, 2012 at 12:50 said:
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Nothing better as far as ammunition goes, than to ignore.
hen1rik on 6 July, 2012 at 12:52 said:
James Forrest do you have an email address i can contact you on.
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They should invite Stenhousemuir, Linfield and Cowdenbeath to their glamour pre-season tourney. The winner gets a star on their jersey.
Mea Culpa on 6 July, 2012 at 12:46 said:
Absolutely my friend, Longmuir, Doncaster and Regan have a lot to learn in terms of communicating with the supporters to convince them of the merits of the changes they’ve proposed to shoehorn Sevco into a league.
They still haven’t grasped it’s the supporters who are driving this agenda.
Paul 67,
You forgot Ajax!!
Was good to meet you in Blantyre recently.
Invercelt,
Must say that sort of conduct is very rare on CQN . Does the guy still post on here?
Invercelt on 6 July, 2012 at 12:50 said:
hen1rik,
Sorry for long delay: life gets in the way of even CQN.
Several months ago, when I was a new poster here, I tried to discuss with a frequent poster a point that he’d made. He very soon ran out of argument & resorted to abuse including obscenity. He wasn’t deleted or red-carded, tho’ I’d noticed Paul occasoinally do that to others. I stopped conversing with the scumbag, whom you may have noticed raving on for some time after. I was later advised – I think by The Exiled Tim – that the bad language rule wasn’t applied to all posters, which fits in with what you said. BTW doesn’t that remind you of a state of affairs that’s discussed every day in these pages?
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He was on yesterday morning but he never opened his mouth after that.
Everyone in here is entitled to their opinion and if others don’t agree they say so, no need for personal insults.
Maybe i do go over board sometimes but what do you expect when we have a governing body bending rules at every turn and it’s been going on for years.
Cheers anyway matey.
I think part of the reason that Cowdenbeath stated No to Newco could be the need of the board to distance themselves from Findlay following Alex Thomo’s revelation about the whiskered one’s 10,000 Rangers shares.
Had this fact not been revealed I suspect the bold Donald would have tried to persuade the Blue Brazil board to support Newco but when his interest was exposed he had to back-peddle in the opposite direction.
As for Dundee or Dunfermline. There can be no doubt that had Rangers F.C. paid their taxes last season—instead of withholding them which the SFA’s independent tribunal found brought the game into disrepute—their entry into administration and collapse pending liquidation would have taken place during the season 2011/2012 and Dunfermline F.C. would not have been relegated.
The S.F.A. as the licensing and regulatory body for the sport were negligent in allowing Craig Whyte and Rangers to operate in the SPL and in their own Cup when it was apparent that neither the individual nor the club satisfied the strict regulations that apply to all clubs. By their dereliction of duty the S.F.A. allowed an insolvent Rangers led by an improper person to stumble on to the end of the season before collapsing.
Had the S.F.A. carried out its regulatory role with its normal zeal there would have been one expulsion and no relegation from the SPL.
As I see it, the obvious way to right this wrong would be to reinstate Dunfermline to the SPL. They should never have left it had the S.F.A. not been asleep on the job.
Most of the scandal of allowing one club to do as they saw fit was allowed to happen while Peat was still in the hot-seat.
Invertcelt 12:50
Bad language rule is applied to all and no one is better than the other. Paul67 can’t be the Cerber of this blog and be here 24/24 hours a day.