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When Gordon Strachan left Celtic in 2009 the overwhelming calls on CQN were for the club to go for broke and appoint Davie Moyes as manager. Again last year, when we were replacing Ronny Deila, Davie and Brendan Rodgers were Celtic’s top choices for the job.

This week Davie, one of the most awful central defenders to have played for Celtic in my time, underwhelmed West Ham fans when given the job of rescuing them from relegation.

Davie did well in his first managerial job at Preston, then rescued Everton from the failing hands of Walter Smith, taking the club on an 11-year run of what is regarded as success around those parts. Throughout his Everton era he was a hot prospect. The Manchester United job was his four years ago, but little has gone his way since. He left Old Trafford, Real Sociedad and Sunderland under a cloud in quick succession.

We could have had him before Sunderland last year and we would have been delighted at the appointment too. It may even have worked out well. Despite that, I don’t expect him to inspire West Ham to midfield mediocrity. The West Ham job is one of many wonderfully well-paid bad jobs in England. They may avoid relegation, but Davie will never be liked.

Brendan Rodgers will receive regular calls from representatives of West Ham-like clubs, with plenty of money but little hope of success. The Celtic job is far from perfect, but there are few better gigs.

JimCraig3D

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  1. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    ERNIELYNCH. 125

     

     

    Not one of your best. Echoes of Trump with his-“He knew what he was getting into”

  2. “They may avoid relegation, but Davie will never be liked.“

     

     

    West Ham don’t like anyone, but I reckon Davie Moyes can live with that

     

     

    I’ve embargoed myself from commenting on celtic managerial appointments after being so certain about wanting Moyes ahead of Brendan. I thought Moyes not Brendan was what we needed at the time.

  3. BMCUWP

     

     

    Just got a text from the wee one.

     

     

    It said –

     

     

    Heartbroken…………………..

  4. Hunderbirds are Gone on

    Some months ago I posted regarding my great friend Dougie, who had been rocked by a terminal prognosis. I was best man at Dougie’s wedding 22 years ago in Mullingar, his wife’s home town. Sad to say, that she called me this morning to let me know that, despite a brave fight over the last 9 months or so, he had finally succumbed to his illness.

     

     

    I don’t pray myself, but know that many on here do, and I ask that you remember his family in your prayers. He was only in his early fifties, and leaves a devastated wife, and two teenage children. His own parents are also both still alive, as is his twin sister. All will be desolate today, as I am.

     

     

    So sad. Thank you.

  5. BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 9TH NOVEMBER 2017 2:16 PM

     

     

    Not sure what your point is there.

     

     

    I’m simply confirming that people who join up do so for their own benefit, no one else’s.

     

     

    It’s a point that has to be made because it’s not what the propagandists would have us believe.

  6. VFR800 is now a Monster 821 on

    BAWSMAN – great post. Everyone has the rights to their views and career choice.

     

     

    I don’t ever remember anyone I know deciding to enlist for altruistic reasons. It’s a career choice – no more, no less!

     

     

     

    KTF

  7. HUNDERBIRDS ARE GONE

     

     

    Very sad to read a about your friend Dougie.

     

     

    May he rest in peace.

     

     

    Prayers said for his family and friends.

  8. VFR800 is now a Monster 821 on

    M6BHOY on 9TH NOVEMBER 2017 1:24 PM

     

     

    So you are precluding people from remembering in their own way? That smacks of censorship and superiority.

     

     

    Not everyone who remembers the war dead does so from a jingoistic British political perspective.

     

     

    I would never condemn or judge anyone for wearing or not wearing a poppy; I don’t think anyone has that right. People will remember privately or publicly – their choice, not yours.

     

     

     

    KTF

  9. VFR800 is now a Monster 821 on

    !!BADA BING!! on 9TH NOVEMBER 2017 2:09 PM

     

    Only the tories and the huns would try to score points over the deaths of millions.

     

     

    _______________________________________________________________________-

     

     

    Yet it happens on Celtic sites every year …………..

     

     

     

    KTF

  10. VFR800 is now a Monster 821 on

    HUNDERBIRDS ARE GONE

     

     

    I’ll certainly say a prayer for the repose of Dougie’s soul and those bereft by his passing, including your good self!

     

     

     

    KTF

  11. VFR800 IS NOW A MONSTER 821 on 9TH NOVEMBER 2017 2:25 PM

     

     

    The difference being of course that most other career choices wouldn’t entail the very real possibility of being involved in killing people, invading their countries etc etc.

     

     

    So it’s different in that respect.

  12. Cosy Corner Bhoy on

    HUNDERBIRDS ARE GONE: Condolences on the loss of your friend

     

    Will light a candle at the first opportunity. RIP.

  13. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    PHILBHOY

     

     

    That’s a very mature response from O to a difficult day,mate. Doesn’t surprise me though.

  14. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    HUNDERBIRDSAREGONE

     

     

    Dougie sounds like a right good guy,and a great loss.

     

     

    R I P

  15. Hunderbirds,

     

    Sorry to hear of the loss of your friend.

     

    his family and all who knew him are in our thoughts and prayers.

  16. Hunderbirds are Gone on

    Two Scots on Countdown there.

     

     

    Happy to report that on this occasion James was the victor over William. You be sure of it.

  17. Hunderbirds

     

    Condolences for the loss of your friend Dougie he will be in my prayers.

     

    Tony Donnelly nice to see you back you have been missed ,hope you are well.HH

  18. Strong rumours emanating from down Pittodrie way that McInnes has sold his soul and is reverting to default hun status.

  19. TIMHORTON on 9TH NOVEMBER 2017 1:54 PM

     

     

    m6bhoy@1:24pm very big in Canada.

     

     

    *and why not, that’s a rhetorical question BTW.

     

     

    This is a huge day as Canadians remember the fallen as their soldiers were volunteers who took it upon themselves to enlist to help the oppressed in other countries and continents and to this day still do.

     

     

    It should be noted as I said that Canadians volunteered for the Boer and both WW I and II Wars and were not conscripted as that Bill was not passed by the Canadian Parliament until 1917 and 1944 respectively with call ups slowly occurring months later.

     

     

    We would NOT have the freedom we now assume or the lifestyles we currently enjoy without those great men and women, who bore the fight that freedom’s light might shine through.

     

     

    Remembrance Day will be honoured on Monday this year, I have been fortunate that for most of my working life I’ve had a paid holiday for it. However, most schools and workplaces will pause at 11:00 am in memory of the fallen Many will also be wearing poppies and Flanders Field written by Canadian physician Lieutenant-Colonel John McCrae, grandson of Scottish immigrants, from just up the road in Guelph will be aired over the PA in both official languages.

  20. VFR800 is now a Monster 821 on

    ERNIE LYNCH on 9TH NOVEMBER 2017 2:43 PM

     

     

    It may surprise you to know that many forces personnel don’t actually go to the front-line during a conflict. Most are in fact support services; but I suspect that you already know that and are being your usual disingenuous self. No surprise there really.

     

     

    Do you hold the same (seemingly) contemptuous viewpoint on those involved in the shipyards, steelworks, engineering factories etc. who have long toiled to produce what then become the tools used by the armed forces?

     

     

     

    KTF

  21. Philbhoy,

     

    Your Wee ghirls response tells me a lot about her nature. You can be rightfully proud of her.

     

    It is a harrowing place but I agree it’s right that it is kept open & is visited by so many.

     

    The story of Maximillian Kolbe is both heroic & inspiring that good can triumph over unspeakable evil & I must say looking at his cell with the perpetual light still burning was one of the most inspiring things I ever witnessed.

     

    Hunderbirds not quoting the Monkees but I am a Believer & I do pray, I have a little window in my prayers for CQN requests & the wider Celtic Family when troubles beset them, today your friend will fill that window.

  22. Phibhoy you could have been a bit more sensitive with your timing of that post. Condolences Hunderbirds H H Hebcelt

  23. VFR800 IS NOW A MONSTER 821 on 9TH NOVEMBER 2017 3:27 PM

     

     

    When you sign up, is there a box you can tick for ‘only to be used in a support role’?

  24. HEBCELT

     

     

    I had a conversation with HUNDERBIRDS last week and he said it was a possibility he would be at the HOOT.

     

     

    I was really asking if his sad news changed things.

     

     

    Sorry if I upset you, but I’m pretty sure S knew what I meant.

  25. Bhoyjoebelfast on

    Danny Kaye and Virginia mayo on the box earlier in Walter Mitty (1949) movie.Danny kicked off the Celtic game at Hampden versus ” themies”.

     

    Celtic won the game and gave the likeable Roy Milne his only medal in his career with the hoops.Roy was Jimmy mcstay’s first signing.I was just reading through the old stuff and this was the era my late father would have watched the Celtic along with St. Peter’s CSC Belfast.

  26. Back to the poppy debate. I buy a poppy. I don’t wear it, not out of disrespect, but because I refuse to be co-erced. The same goes for the Easter lily. I don’t need to prove myself to anyone by wearing an emblem. I have the greatest respect for those who lost their lives in the 2 World Wars. My father in law was a POW for three years, a member of the LRDG, and a great respecter of tradition and duty. He was smuggled out of the atican dressed as a novitiate Franciscan by Monseigneur O’Flaherty, who loved him because he was an excellent hurler. Incidently, he thought the IRA were crazy to destroy their weapons. There are contradictions in all of us.

     

    He and I finished the best of friends, even though he didn’t attend my wedding to his daughter, but their was no more prouder man than he when his beloved first grand daughter became a doctor, nor I a VP.

     

    The most moving Remembrance for me occured in Australia about 8/9 years ago. At 11 O’Clock, on the 11th of November, a huge retail park came to a complete standstill for the silence. It said more than any posturing or flag waving could.