I didn’t realise until watching TV last night it was Keith Lasley that Anthony Stokes ‘did’ on Saturday, the player who put Adam Matthews out of the game for a couple of months. It’s a physical game, and I’m not going to concede violent behaviour is acceptable, but it would be super-human to not be affected by earlier violence. We need to rise above this.
On a similar theme…. Another incident I missed at the game was James McFadden wresting Fraser Forster, who was holding the ball, early in the second half. Minutes later Fraser threw himself to deny McFadden what looked like a certain goal.
Players need an edge to be able to summon their very best performances, and a wee nyaff climbing all over you is as likely to give you an edge as anything. McFadden has a few years left in him. He’s at a well-run club who will give him the platform to excel, if he can find the focus to deliver.
I see some re-writing of history today and over the weekend on where responsibility for Newco Rangers acute financial plight lies. Among throwing blame on convenient scapegoats, one-time-hero-though-transparent-chancer Charles Green, and financial director, Brian Stockbridge, few seem prepared to offer up the prized oaf.
They banked £22m from a share issue and cash from circa 30,000 ticket sales, enough to see them through to top flight football, as long as they didn’t blow it on football bling. So who was responsible for doing exactly that (if you can stretch the definition of bling to Jon Daly and even lesser appealing gems)?
Sure, Stockbridge and Mather signed off, and they certainly knew the financial situation the club was in, but we know enough of the story to explain why it happened.
Despite having a budget close to 100 times their opponents Newco suffered considerable humiliation at the hands of fourth-tier clubs last season. Without reinforcements their chances of progress from the third tier was far from guaranteed – if they continued to allow Ally McCoist to run football operations.
McCoist was unsackable. He played the fans perfectly, earning a ridiculous contract and shares a 1p each for his ability to put bums on seats. Mather had to throw enough talent into the squad to ensure promotion with McCoist in charge, then rely on Charles Green to pull together another share issue.
The question you have to ask is, once McCoist had his reinforcements, who torpedoed the Charles Green supply ship?
No one is going to tell you Charles Green is a man you would want associated with your club, but before mob-rule ensured his attempts to raise investment cash were quashed, should someone not have asked the questions, why did the board find it necessary to bring such a pariah back and what happens if we throw him and his investment plans out?
We’re about to find out.
If suggestions that Newco will come close to expiring cash in hand before season ticket income arrives are accurate I expect they will get there, even if players don’t agree to a wage cut. Companies can control when to pay creditors, even HMRC, who despite what is likely to be an acute interest in Newco, would take months to complete a debt recovery action.
Don’t get too drawn in the minutia of this, whether an insolvency event happens or not does not change the fundamentals, which we touched on last week. Newco had a gamblers chance of turning into something resembling Oldco.
Spooking the SPL into giving them a ticket into top flight football would have seen them debt free and competing for last season’s SPL. Three years of paying our bills while losing the league would have been pointless. I genuinely think only one of Glasgow’s big teams was ever going to survive the SPL decision on Newco.
Had they liquidated Oldco, then flooded Newco with talent and won the league, Celtic would not have recovered, a reality that should be remembered when journalists talk about Scottish football harming itself in 2012. It was them or us.
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Maybe their wont be any admin. Perhaps a controlled insolvency or just lots of austerity. Doubt think they even know. Three weeks to go and we’ll all know.
Brothers ;)
Adulation for not walking away, reviled for not walking away ……. Is this the way to treat an international footballer ?
Chairbhoy
Mea Culpa
Nat Know.
I’ll repost the process from a previous discussion on CQN and TSFM re Sevco access to Europe via the Scottish Cup.
The UEFA rules were drawn up to allow for a club in a tier outside the top tier and not subject to UEFA FFP standards of licensing to get a license if sporting merit put them in a position to apply. Article 15 of UEFA FFP applies.
The rules did not envisage a team not being in the top tier because they were liquidated and took on a new structure and continued to play.
The taking on a new structure is seen by UEFA as an attempt to dump debts and so they wrote Article 12 to prevent clubs doing what Sevco attempted.
So to UEFA, Sevco are not seen as the same club for UEFA competition purposes but they will not dictate to a national association how they run their own competitions, but the chances that the SFA are bricking it if RIFC were to win the SC or be runners up to Scottish title winners.
The SFA should be, as would UEFA, as it would require UEFA to make a decision on whether Article 12 should be put aside and for the SFA to ask UEFA, because of the process that Article 15 sets in train, to make that decision.
Art 12 in simplistic terms requires a club to have been members of a national association for three years before it can be granted a licence to play in a UEFA competition. It is the failure to meet this requirement that stops RIFCs being able to qualify on sporting merit grounds until 3 years after 3 August 2012 (or thereabouts). It is there to stop a club shedding its debt and carrying on as before and to protect the integrity of UEFA competition.
(After 3 years you may have produced 3 years accounts but that was never the reason for the exile, all you need after 3 years is the previous years audited accounts ratified at an AGM)
However Article 15 opens the door to the unwanted dilemma. Should sporting merit take precedence over sporting integrity?
It does not envisage the sort of situation that Scottish football has risked creating where a club is removed from the top tier because it was liquidated, but allowed to return at a lower tier as if it were not.
On the matter of the SFA and UEFA giving Sevco the OK I cannot see it happening without totally UEFA undermining Article 12 and there is already a precedent with Derry who went bust, reformed and qualified via their league position before the three years had expired and were able to apply for a licence by finishing near the top of their league. UEFA said no, not until the new Derry club had been members of the Irish FA for 3 years.
Art 15
1 If a club qualifies for a UEFA club competition on sporting merit but has not undergone any licensing process at all or has undergone a licensing process which is lesser/not equivalent to the one applicable for top division clubs, because it belongs to a division other than the top division, the UEFA member association of the club concerned may – on behalf of such a club – request an extraordinary application of the club licensing system in accordance with Annex IV.
2 Based on such an extraordinary application, UEFA may grant special permission to the club to enter the corresponding UEFA club competition subject to the relevant UEFA club competition regulations. Such an extraordinary application applies only to the specific club and for the season in question.
Annex IV says
ANNEX IV: Extraordinary application of the club licensing system
1. The UEFA administration defines the necessary deadlines and the minimum criteria for the extraordinary application of the club licensing system as specified in Article 15(1) and communicates them to the UEFA member associations at the latest by 31 August of the year preceding the licence season.
2. UEFA member associations must notify the UEFA administration of such extraordinary application requests in writing and stating the name of the club concerned by the deadline communicated by the UEFA administration.
3. The UEFA member associations are responsible for submitting the criteria to the club concerned for the assessment for the extraordinary procedure at national level. They must also take immediate action with the club concerned to prepare for the extraordinary procedure.
4. The club concerned must provide the necessary documentary proof to the licensor that will assess the club against the fixed minimum standards and forward the following documentation in one of the UEFA official languages to the UEFA administration by the deadline communicated by the latter:
a) a written request to apply for special permission to enter the corresponding UEFA club competition;
b) a recommendation by the licensor based on its assessment (including the dates and names of the persons having assessed the club);
c) all documentary evidence provided by the club and the licensor as requested by the UEFA administration;
d) any other documents requested by the UEFA administration during the extraordinary procedure.
5. The UEFA administration bases its decision on the documentation received and grants special permission to enter the UEFA club competitions if all the set criteria are fulfilled and if the club ultimately qualifies on sporting merit. The decision will be communicated to the UEFA member association, which has to forward it to the club concerned.
6. If such a club is eliminated on sporting merit during this extraordinary procedure, the UEFA member association concerned has to notify the UEFA administration immediately, and this procedure is immediately terminated, without further decision. Such a terminated procedure cannot be restarted at a later stage.
7. Appeals can be lodged against decisions made by the UEFA administration in writing before the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) in accordance with the relevant provisions laid down in the UEFA Statutes.
;)
Chairbhoy
22:05 on
20 January, 2014
I did my own research and asked Stewart Regan direct – the straight question about Newco’s membership, he replied by return.
“Dear Chairbhoy,
>
> Thanks for your considered comments below. In response to your specific question, I am happy to confirm that the Board of the Scottish FA did not issue a new membership to Charles Green’s consortium when they purchased the assets of Rangers FC. The application, well-documented in the press, was for a transfer of membership and this was granted under Article 14.1.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Kind regards
> Stewart Regan”
—————————————–
I had not seen that before but it supports the point I made earlier in this blog to SFTB and that is that whilst the SFA went through the process of transferring the membership Rangers Oldco held in the SFA to Sevco they had no need to do so except for the purpose of creating continuity.
The existing rules at the time allowed Sevco to apply within 14 days of becoming Associate Members of the SFL, to become full or associate members of the SFA. I think an Associate Membership would definitely have been granted, maybe even full but there are no criteria published to help decide. Its on page 2 or 3 of this blog.
Now that for me is the interesting thing, why not use the rules set out in black and white and instead pull in Article 14. 1 which actually says a membership is not transferable in the title but then sets out how it can be done?
Had the normal rules have applied Sevco would have played in the SFL, had Associate Membership of both SFL and SFA with the latter becoming full SFA membership on the merge of SPL and SFL.
Of course had they done that there could have been no pretence at continuity as the SFL rule was aimed at new clubs applying to join. It is not just that the SFA failed to answer old club or new club questions, they CREATED the conditions that allowed the question to be asked.
I think it was done for commercial reasons above all else to hold on to a large section of the Scottish football support base and sporting integrity in that particular case (because the SFA are unaccountable) came a poor second to commercial considerations.
Chairbhoy
On Temporary membership or licence I do not recall covering that. The talk was of a conditional membership to cover the time between Rangers having the SFA membership when Sevco played Brechin and the award of full SFA membership by transfer of Oldco’s membership about a week later.
They just made that up, although, again,, had they applied the SFL rules it would have been legit for Sevco to have played during the 14 day period in which they were waiting for an Associate membership of the SFA being granted.
Ozzie Tims
Sky News sport.
Extended interview with Tom Rogic and coach Kevin Muscat.
Both men very complimentary about Celtic in general ,and Tom about our supporters.
Possibility that Tom may play this weekend V Sydney.
I`ll be switching allegiance and supporting Tom.
I expect Summa will have a large mob of hooped Tims in Melbourne to welcome him home.
I`ll be checking.
macjay –
Just like in Scotland, the league’s over. Nobody will catch the mighty Brisbane Roar.
:-)
Tom
04:29 on
21 January, 2014
Maybe the league,but the Grand Final is the nitty gritty,strangely enough.
Odd set-up,but there it is.
I`ll just be supporting Tom.With lots of confidence.
Prior to joining Celtic,I believe he had very few professional games under his belt.
And therefore a lot of craft to learn. Age 21.
This may explain his lack of game time for us.
macjay –
Yes, I forgot about the play-offs.
It is indeed a strange set-up.
I’m sure Tom will do very well at Melbourne.
Just been reading back. A few posters seem to think I was criticising CQNers for watching Forfar v Sevco live on TV.
I wasn’t. It is none of my business what anyone watches on TV.
What I did was express my disappointment at the number of Live Updates appearing on CQN.
Good morning from a dry cloudy 4 * in Manchester.
Hope you are all well.
Good morning friends from a damp on the ground but dry at the moment and just above freezing East Kilbride.
Good Morning from a damp and foggy South Staffordshire.
Breakfast will be consumed somewhere between here and Bridgend in South Wales,where Ryecatcher gets to live the dream in visiting a customer in such an exotic location.
This customer is always worth visiting as he gives me business and is a Welsh Hoops fan due to his maternal grandfather being from the Western Isles.Big rugby fan too but I always try and change the conversation when he gets on to the subject of egg chasing.
Celtic fans really are spread far and wide unlike the mainly parochial net of Deadclub and Sevco fans.
Thoughts of Sevco losing another 38k today,same as yesterday and any other day really,will make me smile on my journey.
Just returned from the land of the Pharaoh’s……where its 23c and tanks are on the Port Suez to Cairo turn off (never a dull moment).
A few observations…
1. Balde gets game time, scores goals then gets dropped……whats that all about?
2. Rogic on loan for a while?……he is already a better player than some “regulars” in the first eleven IMO
3. The orcs will find their true level next season if the don’t go bust in the mean time……..perennial mid table finishers with no money for improvements and no line of credit anywhere……its all good.
4. NFL to Norwich?……..please!
5. Snodgrass for 4.5-6M?……doubt it. He already plays where we would sell him to so his value is already maximised.
6. PL has gone very quiet but still trousering 1M per year?
7. The board trying to wrest the initiative back from The Celtic Trust re paying for Amsterdam legal fees.
8. Should be a glorious day when our esteemed parochial Edinburgh leaders have to drag their sorry asses into a gleaming Celtic Park to open the Commonwealth Games.
Hopefully the billions of viewers worldwide get a potted history of the club that is Celtic 1888 and how we the supporters poured millions into the club to deliver what we have today.
Its all good and its all Celtic…….
Greendreamz…..
BILLIONS of viewers for Commonwealth Games.
Really?
Thinking hundreds of thousands maybe and that’s about it,mate.
Be lucky to make Channel 5 news after the opening ceremony.
Tom
Spoke to a few bhoys who say they know you, if it is you I know your brother Phil, would that be correct?
Kikinthenakas
Celtic are being linked with a move for Sebian younster Filip Djurcic.
The boy plays for Benfica at the moment but is struggling to get a game for them.
He played for Heerenveen last season and moved to Portugal in the summer and Celtic have been watching Benfica for the last few weeks.
Now in my opinion looking at this boy’s ability he would be a sensation at Celtic as he is creative and the number 10 we all have been crying out for for some time. He scores goals AND he makes them. He cost Benfica around 6M quid and they’d doubtless want most of that back OR there is potential to get a swap on the go if they were still interested in Fraser Forster. If it were me I would be on the phone trying to get such a deal as a genuine entertainer like this kid would bring back the punters who maybe find the whole thing a bit repetitive and turgid.
He’d make us many goals BUT he would still need someone to supply those goals to and therein lies the dilemma.
The out and out Striker is still a major priority UNLESS one or more from Balde, Pukki, Watt, Fridjonsson or Atajic can actually step up and be that or those strikers.
If we put this Serbian kid in the CL window his value would sky rocket and it would be an investment more than worth making while solving the striking problem .
It seems likely that Samaras is leaving and it also remains up in the air as to Joe Ledley’s final destiny (although that one seems more likely to remain).
The team DOES have one new midfielder and add him to Brown, Biton, Commons and Charlie Mulgrew and we have central midfield well covered. With James Forrest, Derk Boerigter and our full backs we are covered in the wide area but that something extra is missing and a kid who is 21 given a stage to play the Glasgow Celtic way and with European football is bound to be something worth doing.
I’d love to see this AND a Striker brought in before the end of the window and then we can build a team ready for the CL.
Thoughts?
Here’s his Youtube –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms0azcVgPsM
Auldheid…
Thank you for your fulsome clarification.
Often this subject produces more heat than light – your comprehensive knowledge enlightens us.
You have confirmed what I thought – though I was getting the temporary and extraordinary application for a licence mixed up.
As you say, why Sevco could not simply apply for and receive an SFA Associate Membership when they were granted a place in the SFL Div 3 I don’t know.
Though there was talk of the time of Charles Green wanting to go down that route when Sevco failed to get a position in the top two tiers (i.e. he wanted to dump all the Oldco baggage including fines debts embargos etc..) which delayed the ratification of the 5-way agreement as the SFA wanted to transfer the full SFA Membership, as you say, no doubt for commercial reasons.
This imo is an abuse of article 14., which was designed to prohibit the transfer of membership in such circumstances, as you allude to the SFA first and foremost had a duty to maintain financial fair play and sporting integrity.
The e-mail exchange with Stewart Regan was around the time that Campbell Ogilivie made his “oldest rivalry” statement, I did put it on CQN at the time and thought you’d seen it.
TBB commented on it…
It’s reposted below.
> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 10:22:14 +0000
> From: Stewart.Regan@scottishfa.co.uk
> To: Chairbhoy
> Subject: Re: Challenges to Scottish Football
>
> Dear Chairbhoy,
>
> Thanks for your considered comments below. In response to your specific question, I am happy to confirm that the Board of the Scottish FA did not issue a new membership to Charles Green’s consortium when they purchased the assets of Rangers FC. The application, well-documented in the press, was for a transfer of membership and this was granted under Article 14.1.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Kind regards
> Stewart Regan
>
> Stewart M. Regan
> Chief Executive
> The Scottish F.A.
>
> Tel: 0141 616 6004
> Fax: 0141 616 6003
> Hampden Park, Glasgow, G42 9AY, Scotland
> http://www.scottishfa.co.uk
>
>
>
> >>> Chairbhoy> 22/11/2013 20:47 >>>
> Dear Mr Regan,
> Following the statement from Mr Campbell Ogilvie released today with regards the written complaint from the Rangers Football Club with respect to a quip made by the Celtic CEO, I would be grateful if you could clarify some points.
> Mr Ogilvie stated:-
> “The Compliance Officer has informed both clubs that there is no actionable breach of the rules. Nonetheless, I am compelled to convey my disappointment that we find ourselves in this position, as a result of an apparent erosion of mutual respect between two of our oldest rivals.
> “At a time when Scottish football faces challenges on many fronts, it is incumbent on our biggest clubs to set the highest standards. In this regard both the comments made, and the subsequent time, effort and resource imposed on our Compliance Officer to deal with the complaint, were wholly unnecessary.”
> Mr Ogilvie talks of challenges in Scottish Football, well I’m sure there are, all organisations face challenges but as a fan of Scottish Football I’ve got to say the Football is better than it has been for some considerable time and the National Squad are doing a great job promoting Scottish Football and the Country again, well done to you and your team, the progress in the last couple of years is palpable.
> However the “oldest rivalry” comment in the statement seems erroneous, my understanding is that Rangers Football Club PLC the old firm rival of Celtic Football Club went into liquidation, the business and assets of that famous Club were bought by a new company when the Rangers Football Club was in administration, the new company formed a new Football Club from these assets.
> This new Club started playing competitive Football last season in the fourth tier of Scottish Football, from my understanding the only time the two teams have met was in last seasons Glasgow Cup final, a junior competition, hardly making these Clubs old rivals, far from it Celtic Football Club have many older rivals in Scotland and throughout Europe.
> No doubt the old Glasgow Derby was a (in)famous encounter though it wasn’t the greatest advert for Scottish Football either on the pitch or off, in fact it was often akin to a hate-fest, a manifestation of the worst of Scottish society, before it ended it was the catalyst for legislation on Football Fans from the Scottish government and the introduction of FOCUS, hardly a highlight for Scottish Football.
> No doubt with it’s large support and resources the new Rangers Football Club will be at the top tier of Scottish Football within a few Seasons and playing Celtic F C, this game has all the hallmarks of becoming the biggest match in British Football and a large event in Scotland’s sporting calender, wouldn’t it be great if this new start could afford a different attitude far removed from any “old rivalry” that is thankfully gone in my opinion.
> However having said all that, it seems that the President of the SFA, who lets face it is in a far better position than I am to make such pronouncements, intimates the new Rangers Football Club is a continuation from the original one formed in 1872.
> Now the fact that this Club didn’t play in the SPL means the Scottish Premier League viewed this Rangers as a new Club, also the fact that they had to apply to the SFL and started at the bottom of that League’s structure means that the Scottish Football League viewed them as a new Club, so from my understanding if the Scottish F A view them as a continuation, the original RFC membership of the SFA must have been transferred to the new RFC in line with Article 14 of the Scottish F A’s Articles of Association.
> Now I find it hard to believe that the Board of the SFA, the only people who can sanction such a transfer would do this considering the substantial debts Rangers Football Club had when they went into liquidation, it would surly be at odds with the Financial Fair Play that is being espoused by the Football Associations of Europe.
> Could you please clarify if Rangers FC est. 1872 membership of the Scottish F A was transferred to the new Rangers FC currently based at Ibrox?
> I’ll finish by saying, since joining the SFA you certainly have seen some turbulent times but I hope like me you can now see some real progress and can understand change can be good for the game.
> Regards
> Chairbhoy
>
> The Scottish Football Association Limited is a private company limited by guarantee, registered in Scotland, with its registered office at Hampden Park, Glasgow G42 9AY and company number SC005453.
Once again, thanks for the clarification.
Hail Hail
kikinthenakas –
Yes, Phil is my brother.
Do I know you?
McCoists latest arrogant outburst must really have stuck in the craw of the manager of the carnoustie golf hotel. I would hope after his comment that fat boy was presented with a second bill to the tune of £3709.96 for their previous stay, the bill rfc failed to pay when they stole from their creditors.
Oxford Hotels & Inns (Carnoustie) – £3709.96
If you’re “still rangers football flub”, pay your debts ya feckin paupers.
Have we signed Messi yet?
Now MrWallace is going to sit down with the Sevco supporters leaders to have a discussion about what his plan B is? What happened to the new guy Ness he brought in? And what kind of a help does he think he is going to get from people who still think this dead corpse they have been dragging around for 18 months is going to do him, talk about a stitch up, lol, remember the last guy who brought tea to them all in the parking lot ;) , ehhhhhhh is it Normandy he is now? This reminds me of the scene from the betting shop in the movie called “the sting” great entertainment , keep it up Sevco , lurking Huns GIRUYs.
Well very surprised this morning that Lennie would be happy to loan out Pukki and Balde along with McGeough and Bangura. I think that after Turkey Pukki and Balde shouldbe given a run in the first team. H.H.
Just passing by…..n, wid like to make a couple of wee points.
CQN – without the – cage-rattling / malcontented-rebels
is like….Celtic Park wthout the Green Brigade or…….
SSB without Terry O’Neill. imho
Just a big pile of pants.
Oh, afore ah forget…if, super Joe is so super ?
Why, after 4 years of being Lasley’s immediate
opponent, has it taken Anthony Stokes to ‘attempt’
to sort this wee fouling git oot ?
Super Joe ?
Aye….guid luck….oot.
joe filippis haircut
09:09 on 21 January, 2014
Well very surprised this morning that Lennie would be happy to loan out Pukki and Balde along with McGeough and Bangura. I think that after Turkey Pukki and Balde shouldbe given a run in the first team. H.H.
News to me joe, where’s that from?
HH jamesgang
kevjungle
09:10 on 21 January, 2014
Great post from you on Saturday congratulating Celtic on our win……what do you mean, you didn’t……I could have sworn you did….hahahahahahaha
Ossie Ardiles seriously injured in a car crash in the Falklands, serious head injuries.
The FA have charged Anelka over “racially aggravated” quenelle gesture.
snake plissken
07:55 on 21 January, 2014
Celtic are being linked with a move for Sebian younster Filip Djurcic.
The boy plays for Benfica at the moment but is struggling to get a game for them.
He played for Heerenveen last season and moved to Portugal in the summer and Celtic have been watching Benfica for the last few weeks.
Now in my opinion looking at this boy’s ability he would be a sensation at Celtic as he is creative and the number 10 we all have been crying out for for some time. He scores goals AND he makes them. He cost Benfica around 6M quid and they’d doubtless want most of that back OR there is potential to get a swap on the go if they were still interested in Fraser Forster. If it were me I would be on the phone trying to get such a deal as a genuine entertainer like this kid would bring back the punters who maybe find the whole thing a bit repetitive and turgid.
He’d make us many goals BUT he would still need someone to supply those goals to and therein lies the dilemma.
The out and out Striker is still a major priority UNLESS one or more from Balde, Pukki, Watt, Fridjonsson or Atajic can actually step up and be that or those strikers.
If we put this Serbian kid in the CL window his value would sky rocket and it would be an investment more than worth making while solving the striking problem .
It seems likely that Samaras is leaving and it also remains up in the air as to Joe Ledley’s final destiny (although that one seems more likely to remain).
The team DOES have one new midfielder and add him to Brown, Biton, Commons and Charlie Mulgrew and we have central midfield well covered. With James Forrest, Derk Boerigter and our full backs we are covered in the wide area but that something extra is missing and a kid who is 21 given a stage to play the Glasgow Celtic way and with European football is bound to be something worth doing.
I’d love to see this AND a Striker brought in before the end of the window and then we can build a team ready for the CL.
Thoughts?
Snake what a signing he would be!! Let’s be honest he’s probably a fraction out of our range. But if a deal could be done, we should definitely go for it. A player like this doesn’t become available very often!! Lennon and Lawell regularly say if the right player becomes available at the right price then we’ll go for it.
If he does sign I doubt we would get anyone else in this window. Might have to put the striker on hold until the summer. We did qualify for the CL this year without a striker….with new players like Johansen and Djuricic and some of last seasons signings like Biton improving we would still have a great chance of qualifying for the CL. Hopefully a refocused and improved Tony Watt will be back in the summer too!!
Has CQN become the Marie Celeste?
Pogmathonyahun aka Laird of the Smiles
09:37 on 21 January, 2014
Ossie Ardiles seriously injured in a car crash in the Falklands, serious head injuries.
——–
Think it’s maybe SSN over egging mate.
Seems he’s okay – http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25823043
HH
/Bishop B
len brennan
09:51 on 21 January, 2014
—————————————-
Why let the truth get in the way of a bit of sensationalism? Should have known better.
Thanks Len.
Turkey Pukki and Balde shouldbe given a run in the first team. H.H.
KevJungle
09:10 on 21 January, 2014
Just passing by…..n, wid like to make a couple of wee points.
CQN – without the – cage-rattling / malcontented-rebels
is like….Celtic Park wthout the Green Brigade or…….
SSB without Terry O’Neill. imho
Just a big pile of pants.
I’d say the opposite was true. It’s been much more enjoyable to read reasoned debate and positive comment from those who prefer to support the team than the continual boring drone of people making the same dull and ill-thought out remarks that are usually detached from any form of logical argument and are in fact simply tightly held prejudices.
snake plissken 07:55 on 21 January, 2014
On Djuricic there’s lots of talk on various blogs about this lad. But a lot of the talk is about a €40M release clause in his contract.
So if true I’d guess that would put an end to any talk of him coming to join us, apart from maybe a loan.
HH
/Bishop B
Falklands?
islas Malvinas thanks
FTSFA
A Ceiler Gonof Rust
08:18 on 21 January, 2014
McCoists latest arrogant outburst must really have stuck in the craw of the manager of the carnoustie golf hotel. I would hope after his comment that fat boy was presented with a second bill to the tune of £3709.96 for their previous stay, the bill rfc failed to pay when they stole from their creditors.
Oxford Hotels & Inns (Carnoustie) – £3709.96
If you’re “still rangers football flub”, pay your debts ya feckin paupers.
………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
In any civilised country in the western world this irony would make headlines in newspapers here………………………..zilch.