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Getting your edge. Re-writing Newco history

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I didn’t realise until watching TV last night it was Keith Lasley that Anthony Stokes ‘did’ on Saturday, the player who put Adam Matthews out of the game for a couple of months.  It’s a physical game, and I’m not going to concede violent behaviour is acceptable, but it would be super-human to not be affected by earlier violence.  We need to rise above this.

On a similar theme….  Another incident I missed at the game was James McFadden wresting Fraser Forster, who was holding the ball, early in the second half.  Minutes later Fraser threw himself to deny McFadden what looked like a certain goal.

Players need an edge to be able to summon their very best performances, and a wee nyaff climbing all over you is as likely to give you an edge as anything.  McFadden has a few years left in him.  He’s at a well-run club who will give him the platform to excel, if he can find the focus to deliver.

I see some re-writing of history today and over the weekend on where responsibility for Newco Rangers acute financial plight lies.  Among throwing blame on convenient scapegoats, one-time-hero-though-transparent-chancer Charles Green, and financial director, Brian Stockbridge, few seem prepared to offer up the prized oaf.

They banked £22m from a share issue and cash from circa 30,000 ticket sales, enough to see them through to top flight football, as long as they didn’t blow it on football bling.  So who was responsible for doing exactly that (if you can stretch the definition of bling to Jon Daly and even lesser appealing gems)?

Sure, Stockbridge and Mather signed off, and they certainly knew the financial situation the club was in, but we know enough of the story to explain why it happened.

Despite having a budget close to 100 times their opponents Newco suffered considerable humiliation at the hands of fourth-tier clubs last season.  Without reinforcements their chances of progress from the third tier was far from guaranteed – if they continued to allow Ally McCoist to run football operations.

McCoist was unsackable.  He played the fans perfectly, earning a ridiculous contract and shares a 1p each for his ability to put bums on seats.  Mather had to throw enough talent into the squad to ensure promotion with McCoist in charge, then rely on Charles Green to pull together another share issue.

The question you have to ask is, once McCoist had his reinforcements, who torpedoed the Charles Green supply ship?

No one is going to tell you Charles Green is a man you would want associated with your club, but before mob-rule ensured his attempts to raise investment cash were quashed, should someone not have asked the questions, why did the board find it necessary to bring such a pariah back and what happens if we throw him and his investment plans out?

We’re about to find out.

If suggestions that Newco will come close to expiring cash in hand before season ticket income arrives are accurate I expect they will get there, even if players don’t agree to a wage cut.  Companies can control when to pay creditors, even HMRC, who despite what is likely to be an acute interest in Newco, would take months to complete a debt recovery action.

Don’t get too drawn in the minutia of this, whether an insolvency event happens or not does not change the fundamentals, which we touched on last week.  Newco had a gamblers chance of turning into something resembling Oldco.

Spooking the SPL into giving them a ticket into top flight football would have seen them debt free and competing for last season’s SPL.  Three years of paying our bills while losing the league would have been pointless.  I genuinely think only one of Glasgow’s big teams was ever going to survive the SPL decision on Newco.

Had they liquidated Oldco, then flooded Newco with talent and won the league, Celtic would not have recovered, a reality that should be remembered when journalists talk about Scottish football harming itself in 2012.  It was them or us.
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  1. I would have thought Ledley would have been the one to stick it on Lassley as it Doesent look like he going to be hanging around, just rub 4 studs down his Achilles and say there yi go lads, thanks for the memories.

  2. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    eddieinkirkmichael

     

     

    12:28 on 20 January, 2014

     

     

    Are you on the Whackie Backie ..?

  3. bournesouprecipe

     

     

    13:01 on 20 January, 2014

     

     

    Wee Judith Ralston is to be admired for doing a high pressure job.

     

     

    —–

     

     

    Met Judith in the flesh last year. She was down in Greenock hosting the opening of the local arts centre (the Beacon).

     

     

    I chatted to her for a while before the event and she’s a really nice down to earth lassie!

     

    And btw the TV doesn’t do her justice. What a fine looking woman!

     

     

    HH

     

    /Bishop B

  4. More like crack, dodgy postings indeed.

     

     

    67heaven … i am neil lennon, supporting wee oscar..!!.. ibrox belongs to the creditors

     

     

    13:25 on 20 January, 2014

     

    eddieinkirkmichael

     

     

    12:28 on 20 January, 2014

     

     

    Are you on the Whackie Backie ..?

  5. leftclick Together we will get justice for the Dam 5 on

    Goldstar10

     

    “tinfoil heid” I think when the cwissy (OR SOMEONE) posted on twitter a photo of him getting his hair coloured

  6. My boss is Peter Principle on

    eddieinkirkmichael

     

     

    12:27 on 20 January, 2014

     

     

    Are you an attention seeker?

  7. BMCUW @ 13:24,

     

     

    Very true, turns out smashing windaes was just the start…

     

     

    BTW what ever happened to Krystallmacher SMB?

     

     

    Hail Hail

  8. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS .........FC not PLC on

    LEFTCLICKTIC

     

     

    Nobody would be stuooooopit enuff to post that,shoooooorly?

     

     

    Oh,wait…..

  9. jungle jim

     

     

    11:31 on 20 January, 2014

     

    Big Nan

     

    The But and Ben at Auchmithie is still a wonderful little reataurant.

     

    …………………………

     

    Must get back up soon, and it is well named, as that is exactly what it was.

     

     

    Rye catcher, I drank often in The Masonic Arms in Inverkeithing back in the day when that title was apt. It is now a hotbed of Fenians and the former patrons must be livid when they pass by and hear the music that is played now.

  10. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS .........FC not PLC on

    CHAIRBHOY

     

     

    I believe that he is another who sadly flounced without a photie of him in a tutu.

     

     

    Hopefully he’ll be back,resplendent in a few frills.

     

     

    He is a loss to the site,as are many. But heyho….

  11. Did somebody mention weather?

     

     

    Lovely dry day here in EK with patchy cloud covering an otherwise blue sky. And I wear glasses too.

  12. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS .........FC not PLC on

    BOURNESOUPRECIPE

     

     

    Freudian slip avoided by ensuring the fourth word of your reply had an s at the start of it.

     

     

    Well done!

  13. leftclick Together we will get justice for the Dam 5 on

    The more you hear of The new clubs players living in luxuary accomadation when travelling to play FORFAR the more I think this fella from TSFM is on the right track :))))

     

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    I Predict

     

    Wallace has no intention of making the draconian cuts spouted at the AGM. He needs the crisis to continue until the the Gullible are in a state of acute anxiety. So he publicises nonsense options like the 15% pay cut which have zero chance of happening

     

    His real aim is to get the next ST round brought forward “To save TRFC from Administration and Liquidation” ……………..because there is no other option

     

    As son as the Gullible swallow this guff he will declare that the ST appeal has failed and put TRFC into Admin pocketing the ST monies and the assets as payment of debts owed to RIFC

     

    Its that simple

     

    The Guy`s a Spiv

     

    He works for Spivs

     

    He`s well paid for his Spivery

     

    All his actions are Spiv actions

     

    Admin is coming

     

    The Fans will be blamed for not buying enough STs

     

    And it won`t end there

     

    Some of the less competent business minded R*ng*rs men will form yet another consortium

     

    They will ask the Gullible to fund a bid for the “brand” in a rented Ibrox with no MP for training

     

    Meanwhile

     

    More astute R*ng*rs men with money will bid to form a new Club prepared not to play at Ibrox until the ground is sold for a pittance

  14. Doug – The little jump and puff of the chest Stokes give as he got to his feet after felling Lasley told the story. A bit of enforcement for what happened to Adam.

  15. Afternoon all.

     

     

    Aye get rid of KC – he’s fat, too slow, terrible first touch, cant pick out a pass, cant shoot and hardly ever scores!

     

     

    What a waste of 300k!

     

     

    HH!!

  16. pabloh_AKA_NEIL LENNON on

    Paul,

     

     

    Spot on. My fear back then was that a newco would be allowed into the SPL ‘for the good of Scottish football’ allowing ‘them’ to be debt free & competing with clubs that paid their bills.

     

     

    If it wasn’t for fan power, this actually would have happened. The fact that the guys that run our game, Regan & Doncaster, thought this was even a possibility is frightening.

     

     

    It’s bad enough the newco claim to be the same club and no one at the SFA or in the media will correct them on that, but the silver lining for fans of all other clubs is that the newco had to start at the bottom.

     

     

    Unsurprisingly the newco learned nothing from rangers. Massively overspending to win games against part time players. It’s hilarious to watch the current financial collapse but if I’m being honest I wouldn’t be surprised if they scraped by and made the SPFL.

  17. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS .........FC not PLC on

    ABZMIKE

     

     

    I’ve never castigated a Celtic player for giving it out to a known thug.

     

     

    As far as I am concerned Stokesie can hold his head high for doing what most of us on here have long been advocating.

     

     

    Didnae hit him hard enough,mind!

  18. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Paul67,

     

     

    we won the war but isn´t it about time that Winston Chruchill was voted out ?

     

     

    HH

  19. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    Rm ……what’s worrying the orcs……some examples…..if this is their full list, they won”t be winning any awards for thinking….

     

     

    Money Laundering.

     

    Shareholders stealing money from us.

     

    Illegal payments into foreign bank accounts.

     

    Directors taking £10m in wages last season.

     

    Jack Irvine on £600k per annum

     

    Malcolm Murray not taking money out of the club yet accounts say differently.

     

    20% of Directors resigning from Supporters Trust.

     

    Investigation into improper conduct of Board Members of Supporters Trust being covered up.

     

    1 million shirt sales

     

    BDO investigating Bluepitch and Margarita

     

    Police Scotland investigating Bluepitch and Margarita

  20. setting free the bears supports Res. 12 & Oscar Knox

     

     

    12:34 on

     

     

    20 January, 2014

     

     

    “Had they liquidated Oldco, then flooded Newco with talent and won the league, Celtic would not have recovered, a reality that should be remembered when journalists talk about Scottish football harming itself in 2012. It was them or us.”

     

     

    Interesting finale to the article, Paul but….

     

     

    for the hard of thinking, like myself, could you explain this rationale in a bit more detail.

     

     

    I am worried that you are arguing that the “preserve their history but relegate them into oblivion leagues for a few years” was a preferable outcome to “losing their history but letting them start as a newco in the top division.”

     

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    The way I see the preservation of history question is that it was nothing more than a footballing commercial decision taken by the SFA (on behalf of the majority but not all of the clubs) that no one club could on its own have prevented.

     

     

    The SFA wanted all football debts paid so that gave Green some leverage. The game did not want to lose a large part of its customer base, unpleasant as they might be, so that gave Green more leverage. The SFA were petrified of the perceived social fallout – so more leverage for Green.

     

     

    I use the terms “the game” and SFA almost interchangeably for the SFA membership are the clubs who play the game – all 41/42 of them , but ONLY the SFA as a single entity could allow the transfer of SFA membership via their Board’s discretion under SFA Article 14.

     

     

    The thing is the SFA had no need to transfer Rangers SFA membership, which created the football illusion of the same club with same history.

     

     

    The SFA wanted that for the reasons I’ve provided and of course Green wanted it also to help make his share issue plans a success. However all Rangers had to do to get SFA Membership was to apply as a new SFL club within 14 days of joining the SFL to become a Full or Associate Member of the SFA and if Associate, prior to that status disappearing when the SPFL was formed, a club then waited five years (from memory) before they applied for full SFA membership. ( There is no SFA Associate Membership class now, only Full Members and Registered Members see separate post to follow )

     

     

    This was the rule book at the time so why not just let it be applied rather than the transfer of SFA membership route contrived by the SFA?

     

     

    I emphasis the latter for three reasons

     

     

    a) In my opinion the SFA led the charge to keep Rangers in the top tier as was plan A and allowed the transfer of membership as part of a plan B damage limitation exercise after SPL and SFL clubs voted (forced by supporters) against anything but a start at the bottom of the senior professional tier.

     

     

    b) it takes a detailed knowledge of the rules and how to get around them to come up with such an arrangement and I doubt Celtic had the in depth knowledge to come up with it. Campbell Ogilvie on the other hand….

     

     

    c) From my stand point the same history myth is one purely of the SFA’s making in what they saw as protecting the game and given that Celtic would have been huge losers had plan A worked I can see why the last thing Celtic would have wanted was for plan A to be successful.

     

     

    I appreciate this view cuts through the Celtic want them back school of thought but in pure financial terms the greatest risk to Celtic thriving was plan A working for Rangers.

     

     

    Now Celtic, with the major risk to success removed even if crowds do drop, because of access to the more than compensating CL money, are in a much healthier sustainable position at a CL level of performance (Pot 4 :) ) rather than being SPFL also rans.

     

     

    It really was them or us from my understanding of what went on.

  21. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    leftclick together we will get justice for the dam 5

     

     

    13:42 on 20 January, 2014

     

     

    Now, didn’t I say just that this morning……Jazzuss

  22. See my previous: The Change to the Rules on SFA Membership.

     

     

    SFA Handbook as Updated to 2 Aug 2013.

     

     

    4.2 Members shall be of two classes:- full members and registered members

     

     

    6.2 A club or association shall be admitted as a registered member automatically by reason of its being admitted as a member of an Affiliated Association or an Affiliated National Association, or in the case of a club through membership of or participation in an association, league or other combination of clubs formed in terms of Article 18 and in the case of an association by being formed in terms of Article 18, provided it is not already a full member. A registered member shall not be a member of more than one Affiliated Association or more than one Affiliated National Association. A registered member may apply at any time to become a full member.

     

     

    6.3 A club or association desiring to qualify for full membership of the Scottish FA must meet, and commit to continuous compliance with, the Membership Criteria * and amendments thereto as shall be promulgated by the Board from time to time in connection with the membership of the Scottish FA.

     

     

    (* defined as ” means the criteria promulgated by the Board from time to time in connection with qualifying for full membership of the Scottish FA in terms of Article 6; ”

     

     

    Note I looked for any Membership Criteria over a year ago and there was none but that may have changed – and so it bloody well should to put limits on stuff like the 5 way agreement )

  23. Stokes gets a Blue Peter badge, plus a Double or Drop prize for whacking Lasley. There’s a few more like Lasley who would need whacked on a regular basis. I played amateur league football and every team had their enforcers. Not dirty players themselves, but were there do do the damage on the real dirty players.

     

    Lasley could have put Adam Matthews out of the game for good with his tackle. He’s been allowed to get away with it, same as McCullough for the Norwegian Blues. At the end of the 3-0 game against yon deid club he had tried to do Mulgrew. When Charlie turned on him he nearly shat himself.

     

    As regards the referees on Oul’ Caledonia, they have a definite down on Celtic. They also woeful, abysmal, shite,(insert own description here).

  24. GlassTwoThirdsFull on

    Auldheid 13.54

     

     

    Don’t forget the SPL’s part in the plot. By scrapping the old TV deal and replacing it with a new one requiring four “old firm” games AFTER Doncaster and Topping had been put in the picture by Whyte, it is clear they wanted to make it very difficult (commercially) for the other clubs to exclude a new “Rangers” from the SPL (even although that was what eventually happened).

  25. Good evening from Russia. In relation to that article(posted earlier) by Chris Graham, I can confirm that nobody here knows who Newco Rangers are. My Celtic scarf has already claimed the interest of a foreign diplomat as well others who speak most warmly about Celtic. The win against Barcelona is mentioned most often. An American colleague, upon hearing my accent, asked “Celtic or Rangers?”. It soon transpired that he also supports Celtic despite being from Noo Joisey. Moreover, his face moved in strange, disturbed shapes when he said “Rangers”. Well that is a normal reaction I guess. He will soon be educated about their demise.

     

    Aiden’s comments about Russia in the Mail today were disappointing. They remind me a little of Ian Rush and others. Aiden made a lot of money here and had the chance to experience an awesome city. Yet it seems that he did not make use of a golden cultural opportunity. I still wish him well in the cultural hotspot that is Liverpool and hope that this time he learns the language of the native city.

  26. leftclick Together we will get justice for the Dam 5 on

    67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors

     

    :))

  27. I love those Downfall parodies, especially the one where Hitler plays Craig Whyte. He’s ranting and raving while outside the secretary comforts another member of staff. “Don’t worry, we still have Jim Traynor” I nearly soiled myself at that one.

  28. traditionalist88 on

    John O’Neil

     

     

    I think you are being rather harsh on Aiden and a bit selective re. his quotes.

     

     

    He stated the Russia move was a great experience and an eye opener. Ok he said in some ways the football is 20 years behind but I know for a fact he made a very good attempt at learning the language over there and he didn’t exactly jump ship after one season or his first trip to Siberia! 4 years he was there and from what I can see he immersed himself in the city.

     

     

    HH

  29. pabloh_AKA_NEIL LENNON on

    Auldheid,

     

     

    So to summarise/simplify what you’re saying… There was 2 options…

     

     

    1. Newco in SPL with loss of history

     

    2. Newco in D3 with rule tinkering to allow illusion of same club.

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