Malcolm Murray, the newly appointed chairman of the Newco club Charles Green hopes to establish, yesterday entertained us with his comments on punishments served on a football team suspected of cheating you for over a decade. He said:
“We’ve had giant punishments already – a European ban, a 10-point deduction, the emotional trauma everyone has suffered. I think, for the good of Scottish football, it’s much better Rangers in the SPL.”
There has been no European ban. Newco will not be eligible for European competition because it is a Newco and Uefa requires three years accounts from participating clubs. They are simply not eligible, they have not and will not achieve the qualification criteria for European football for three years.
The 10-point penalty imposed on Rangers last season for seeking protection from creditors by going into administration is hardly a “giant” punishment. It changed nothing. Rangers were second in the league when it was imposed and remained so. They released no players and went on to defeat Motherwell twice, ensuring they finished the league in second place, earning £900k in additional prize money.
As a punishment, it is the equivalent of banning Ally McCoist from this year’s 100m Olympic competition. Pointless.
Which leaves us with “the emotional trauma everyone has suffered”. Compared to the emotional trauma suffered by Dundee, Motherwell, Gretna, Third Lanark fans, recent events have been nothing more than a focus for some robust rallying calls.
Don’t even start me on the emotional cost of losing the league in 2003, 2005, 2009, 2010 and 2011, all to a team of cheats. How do you measure that? Think back to each day we lost those titles and tell me how you felt about them then and how you feel now, knowing you were cheated.
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Row z 12-40
Hilarious …. Never thought if that
Btw don’t think Green cares …£5.5 m for all those assets … He cannae lose whatever happens
Thanks, Kitalba.
One man’s trip to the Isle of Man can be another man’s trip to Paradise. ( Using either meaning of that destination.)
QUOKKA ?
Sounds like a good name for Wee Craigie.
‘Quokka Whyte, sounds like a suitable title for the MBB.
Gordon J
Problem is sevco is not a member of the SFA so not entitled to hold, transfer or offer SFA player registrations. This is not a restriction on trade since sevco are not precluded from employing anyone or of playing football with their players. They cannot though participate in SFA controlled activity, it being a ‘club’ an’all.
HH
Fathers Day. a day which of emotions for fellow dads out there.
It’s also a day when we think of our departed Dads, and for many of us this one will be more poignant than most. If only they were here to see recent events. This has special resonance for me, as mine was a full fat HUN. How I wish he had seen all this.
more Celtic Quokka News
-The quokka /ˈkwɒkə/ (Setonix brachyurus), the only member of the genus Setonix, is a small macropod about the size of a domestic cat. Like other marsupials in the macropod family (such as the kangaroos and wallabies), the quokka is herbivorous and mainly nocturnal. It can be found on some smaller islands off the coast of Western Australia, in particular on Rottnest Island just off Perth and Bald Island near Albany. A small mainland colony exists in the protected area of Two Peoples Bay, where they co-exist with Gilbert’s potoroo.
Kit -I hope ole Kano’s taking notes.
There will be questions…
Is Sone Aluo a Quokka??
TFPLG demands to know……………………… or there may be trouble.
HH
Got a pm on Fbook yesterday from an old school friend who is a producer at the beeb. He asked me for my email address so that he could send me a photo slagging sevco FC. He said that they are all really really hurting badly, leekie and co. He asked me to post it on FB and tag him, that way they would all see it and he would be blameless.
Shirley its all just fitba banter?
No to newclub playing anywhere.
HH
northshorebhoy,
Father’s day – piece of nonsense in this old cynic’s book.
No matter how hard they try, the card business doesn’t affect reality – whether it’s good or bad..
¡ǝsoɥ ǝɥʇ ǝɯ ssɐd ‘sʞɔıʞ ʎןɟ ɥbnouǝ (o) /o\ z ʍoɹ on 17 June, 2012 at 12:45 said:
In all of this, the bhuns are no more, and that makes me a very happy mhan.
And the SFA / SPL must be reeling …….they need to be VERY careful though.
When the liquidator / HMRC investigate all the shenanigans over the passed 20 years, they may find out about the ‘turning a blind eye’ culture within the SFA / SPL ……. Doo doo
A quota of quokkas.
Small world ——-
I recently watched a documentary re Australian wildlife .
One of the things I learned is that it is illegal to touch a Quokka [ voiceover man said they have no fear of humans ]
The missionary priest at Holy Cross 11.40 mass asked everyone to pray for the team they call ‘ The Rangers’ and remember they are christian’s like me and you . I think he might have been out in the sun too long.
row z, PFayr, Gordon_J
Many thanks for all the replies. Very informative
PFayr
You posted in one of your replies “The Hun players difficultly will be with registration thro Uefa”
With the players who walk away effectively not having a contract with SevCo, would that in effect not make them a ‘Bosman’?
Rottnest Island or Rotto as the locals call it, is a short ferry ride from Fremantle. It is polluted with quokkas, who come up to the tourists to be fed, although this is forbidden by the authorities.
I was not aware that quokkas lived anywhere else apart from zoos.
Ten Men Won The League on 17 June, 2012 at 11:18
I did indeed approve this. What’s a moron? If I’m a moron, I’m a highly skilled adminstrative one, which makes me an oxymoron.
Anyhoos, last night was a good auld soirée de chèvre.
Was most amusin as while Duffield was dancin in his goat leggins some kind of balloon with a flame in it (how does that work??) descended on him and set his leggins on fire. Let’s just say his dancin got a bit more enthusiastic at that point….
Re Sevco/Newco , I`ve lost track to be honest. Surely we are all just surmisng, as not a lot has changed and the cash has not yet changed hands to buy the corpse. That said it will not stop me getiing on the guessing bus, I would like to know a couple of things.
If Green hands over money this week, does he pay the wages due for payment in June?
Does that then mean he owns the registrations and can sell as he sees fit ?
Can the man with no surnames gang put a stop to this by stumping up cash to the liquidators?
Will that then lead to a hun v hun court case ? Hope so.
Why is Dungcaster still in a job?
By the way , how sweet was it to see that torn faced tosser Advocaat get a kick in the baws last night?
Copy and paste from newco-newco………anyone got answers for them?
So who does own the club?
With so much going on this is still not clear, to me anyway!
Who has what share holding?
Who should the SWS consortium be negotiating with?
I’m assuming Zeus are the major share holder, but to what extent? Majority?
Zeus Capital (Represented by Imran Ahmad and Brian Stockbridge)
Charles Green
Malcolm Murray
Alessandro Celano (Blue Pitch Holdings and director of 1508 London Ltd)
Chris Morgan (“UK-based businessman representing family trusts”)
Glenmuir (Managing director Colin Mee said “minority investment”)
Two others to be named?
TMWTL
The registration question was posed recently …..
Bosman type position was mooted as the likely outcome
It’s not certain what Uefas take would be
IMO it should be a Bosman situation
PS
It was nice last night to see wee Advocaat with his Rangers-Euro-Night face on.
¡ǝsoɥ ǝɥʇ ǝɯ ssɐd ‘sʞɔıʞ ʎןɟ ɥbnouǝ (o) /o\ z ʍoɹ,
If Sevco becomes a member of the SPL then it becomes a member of the SFA.
The recent changes to SPL articles give leeway to a prospective member to have time to meet the test of actually operating a football club. It is, in theory, possible that Sevoc could be admitted to the SPL on the basis that if it does it will then register the footballers it employs with the SFA.
Of course if there is a new league structure merging the SPL and the SFL its rules have still to be written. And we know that they will be written to suit!
OK, I’ll try and start:
“So who does own the club?”
What club?
You mean, “Who owns the a stadium, car park and sports centre that used to belong to Rangers Football Club? (Now in liquidation.)”
OK, let’s go from there…………….
Just done my second 10k, very very hard but the feeling now is worth it!
The guy with a ‘no s…………’ tattoo on his leg in front of me for last km ensured he was beaten and my previous time was also beaten.
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Alasdair Lamont @BBCAlLamont
The guidance I was given on Tues was that Rangers would be named in tomorrow’s SPL fixture list. That position has obviously changed since..
Ally getting his “Guidance” from a labrador….
Gallagher &@ 12.57 yesterday.
You show exactly the obsessoin that I referred to.
Whatever Mrs Thatcher changed or didn’t change, she’s been out of office for over 21 years, i.e. her period IN POWER is long over. She was elected to change things – the preceding Labour administration was exhausted & bankrupt of ideas. As soon as she left office, her Tory colleagues started trimming her ideas, notably the Community Charge. The fact that some other ideas from her time have endured may be atributable to their strength. Perhaps you can explain your obsession with “Reaganomics” & Milton Friedman’s theories: neither Major, Blair, Brown nor Cameron has been remotely interested in following them.
“The system”, whatever it is, has not brought us to the present crisis: on the contrary, it is the result of simple policy errors, viz. lending by the banks to borowrs who weren’t credit-worthy, excessive government spending & the creation of the Eurozone. Of course, it’s easier to balme “the system” (especially if one doesn’t like it) than to analyse the problem.
Is that the same glenmuir who make clothing? If so, they will join park’s motors on my bhoycott list.
Is it just me,or does anyone else think Jabba & Advocaat look like peas in a pod? Siblings from the swamp.
From Garngad to Croy I am Neil Lennon. on 17 June, 2012 at 12:57 said:
The missionary priest at Holy Cross 11.40 mass asked everyone to pray for the team they call ‘ The Rangers’ and remember they are christian’s like me and you . I think he might have been out in the sun too long.
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The most incredible thing about that is that someone decided 11.40 was a good time for a Mass.
Displayign my own ignorance here (who said ‘as usual’???) but I take it all those Rangers FC 1873-2012 shareholders now have no shares in anything?
Gordon J
Agreed, but as it stands today, 17 June, sevco is not a valid body to hold, transfer or propose registrations. SPL membership is achievable but that does not confer player registration rights in itself. Only SFA membership does that.
Does SPL membership ‘confer’ automatic SFA membership? That’s not my understanding?
HH
Strange bedfellows .—
Charles Green is a spiv .
Alessandro Celano is a Director of 1508 London Ltd —– a wee company which specializes in upmarket design for London toffs. [ Blue Pitch Holdings seems to be Celano’s wee side project -it is not listed at Companies House]
Maybe Alessandro has been led to believe there is quick money to be made from investing in a very down at heel football club
New Phil piece up, the linky thing isn’t working for me.
No to Newclub playing anywhere
HH
Who owns the club ?
Who owns the stadium ?
Who owns the training ground ?
Who holds the player contracts ?
What did Ticketus buy with their £24m.?
What is Quokka Whyte due ?
What is Dave King due ?
Where are LAST YEAR’S company accounts ?
Why is the Big Tax Case STILL pending ?
When are the dual contracts being dealt with ?
When are the EBTs going to be ruled on ?
Etc, Etc, Etc.
What a Quocka Whyte !!
Nothing to do with Hun journalists or anything else but I do not purchase any Scottish dailys during the week as I don’t really have the time to read them.
So iimagine my surprise this morning when my Sunday papers were delivered to discover that William Haughey a supposedly right good Celtic man has accepted a knighthood. Aye “right good Celtic man” my erse.
I suppose some will want to post and defend him but my opinion the type that are prepared to accept these so called honours are right out of the same mould and school of business practices as a former chairman of a now defunct football club
Rottnest & quokkas are among my happiest times of my stay in Perth.
One of the saddest things was the Aussie students passing out ceremony of Quokka Soccer which blahs ceased I believe.
¡ǝsoɥ ǝɥʇ ǝɯ ssɐd ‘sʞɔıʞ ʎןɟ ɥbnouǝ (o) /o\ z ʍoɹ,
SFA Article 6:
“A club or association shall be admitted as a registered member automatically by reason of its being admitted as a member of an Affiliated Association or an Affiliated National Association, or in the case of a club through membership of or participation in an association, league or other combination of clubs formed in terms of Article 18.”
The jury appears to be out on this one with what appears to be a division within the support. Fresh off the press:
Should Celtic make a public comment on the Newco Rangers vote?
YES (51%, 311 Votes)
NO (49%, 293 Votes)
Total Voters: 604