Green has more to worry about than title stripping

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Charles Green, owner of “The Rangers Football Club Limited“, formed in May this year, yesterday released a remarkable statement yesterday, ahead of the SPL Commission into How Rangers FC, formed in 1872, registered football players for over a decade.

“In short, what was decided by the SPL membership is that Rangers was finished as a member of the SPL. Despite this, the SPL now see the new owners of the company, and the new company itself, which owns all the assets of Rangers FC – including SPL championship titles – as fair game for punishment for matters that have nothing to do with us at all.”

We dealt with the purchasing of history on here some months ago. Once we realised it was possible, I snapped up ancient Egyptian history, the period from the pharaohs until Mark Antony. I AM responsible for the Pyramids of Giza but any slavery which may or may not have been used in their construction is NOTHING to do with me.

No one complained about the use of slaves at the time and I am sure each pyramid would have been constructed whether slaves were used of not. If slaves were so necessary for the construction I am sure “we” would have built many more.

Mr Green seems keen to protest against the SPL process, however, he, frankly, fails miserably. He doesn’t “question the impartiality of the individual panel members” but assets “whatever decision they reach is a decision of the SPL”.

So that will be independent members reaching a decision for the SPL! I think he doth protest too little.

There is also a threat: “”To make it crystal clear, the new owners purchased all the business and assets of Rangers, including titles and trophies. Any attempt to undermine or diminish the value of those assets will be met with the stiffest resistance, including legal recourse.”

Charles Green took steps to undermine his new company’s claim on Rangers titles in a BBC interview in June when he said that if his CVA proposal was to fail (which it did) and Rangers were to be liquidated (which they are), “the history, the tradition, everything that’s great about this club is swept aside”.

“Legal recourse”, which is prohibited by Fifa and which the SFA accommodated from Duff and Phelps, acting on behalf of Rangers, will provide Scottish football with a further drama.  We mentioned at the time that the true cost of the SFA being so accommodating would be a repeat performance.

Mr Green asks why the “football authorities do nothing to address an issue that was public knowledge for at least two years, and was reported in the Club’s accounts for several years”? I think I can help here. Sir David Murray, who owned Rangers during the duration of its Employee Benefit Trust years, categorically denied that the club issued players with second contracts which were not submitted to the authorities. He reiterated this point most recently on a Sky News interview in March.

The football authorities have no issues whatsoever with Employee Benefit Trusts, it’s player contracts they insist are registered. Rangers insisted they had no case to answer until the SPL set a deadline on Duff and Phelps to fully disclose the nature of the alleged second contracts.

Charles claims during those lurid weeks when the SPL and SFA were negotiating with Green, that Neil Doncaster “repeatedly stated he was not interested in stripping titles from Rangers”. If he had evidence of this, ANY evidence, it would be fascinating.

If not, we should dismiss this claim.

A curious barb is made in other directions, “Rangers was not the only Club in Scotland to use EBTs yet nothing was done and little has been heard about it”.

One more time, for Mr Green’s benefit, EBTs are not against football regulations whatsoever. They are entirely legal and permitted by the SFA and SPL. The SPL Commission is not investigating whether Rangers used EBTs or not, it will investigate whether or not all player contracts were registered.

Mr Green goes on to make varied comments against “powerful representatives from Clubs within the SPL…. who appear hell bent on inflicting as much damage on Rangers as possible”, and that some “clubs were placed in an invidious position and we believe their interests were not best served by those in more powerful positions”.

Let’s have some context here. If we were to make a list of those who inflicted most damage on Rangers, representatives from other clubs would scarcely merit a mention. Those who allowed the club to spend more than it earned for so many years, who introduced the perilous tax avoidance system, those who failed to make accommodations for HMRC’s claim when it was first made, and those directors who personally benefited from the EBT scheme all carry primary responsibility.

Then would come the cheerleaders for the disastrous Craig Whyte regime – those who last year campaigned for the takeover, including putting pressure on Lloyds Banking Group to accept the terms.

Rangers opponents were spectators throughout this period. Any suggestion that our club were anything but opponents to Rangers, and alleged victims of trophies won by illegally registered players, when they should have been campaigning on behalf of their rivals, seriously misreads what was an established Glasgow rivalry. Of course it would be the same the other way – and rightly so.

Despite clearly feeling strongly about the Commission, Green didn’t address the key point….

There was no denial of the central charge that for a decade or more Rangers fielded improperly registered football players.

Yesterday some people suggested Green had offered the Lance Armstrong defence but Armstrong denied he was guilty while refusing to participate in the investigation into doping. This is a different matter altogether. Green has offered up something for every conceivable paranoid condition without actually claiming Rangers are wrongly accused.

The headlines today are all about titles being stripped but that is not the main topic in play. More importantly, after titles are stripped, what punishment will the SPL Commission levy on the Rangers membership, granted to Sevco in June?

The sheer scale of the charge makes this question incalculable. The toxicity attached to that membership is untenable and no bogeymen at other clubs, at the SPL or SFA are responsible for that.

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  1. I think everyone should remember the SFA took a step back to let the SPL conduct the investigation as they did not wish to have two conflicting processes running at the same time. They will still be obligated to take seperate action from the SPL once the outcome is known.

  2. 50 shades of green on

    good article Paul

     

     

    never trusted pyramid schemes right enough :-)

     

     

    it seems to me as though chucky is trying to confuse and cause bewilderment amongst the hoards (was going to say masses but just didnt seem right enough).

     

     

    And is being backed up by the spineless succulent black pudding eaters in the msm .dont they ever learn.

     

     

    one question i asked of a sevconian the other day was .if chucky floats a share issue after the deadco get their ill gotten gains removed from the record books would you by any.

     

    answer made no sense to me , once a ranger always a ranger.

     

     

    so what did you do with the shares you bought under mintys reign .

     

     

    silence . says it all really .

     

     

    stupid huns .

     

     

    lovingitlongtimeCFC

  3. Jeg er Neil Lennon-Greeninbingley on

    Goosy’s article:

     

     

     

    Conversation in Barlinnie

     

     

    “Hector”

     

    ,,,,,,,

     

    “Yes Minty”?

     

    ,,,,,,,,,,

     

    “I`ve got something to tell you”

     

    ,,,,,,,,,,

     

    “Tell me all about it Minty”.

     

    “Well Hector , It’s a long story, I`ll start at the beginning

     

    In 2009 I decided to sell a Football Club. My first step was to visit an Old Folks Home in Saltcoats.

     

    it was called “The Whyte House” or something like that. I remember it was very well built. Solid brick I think. Reminded me of sleeping rough in Burntisland

     

    Anyway, I managed to persuade 14 residents to let me use their name as Directors in 14 different shell companies I was setting up. The plan was to invest in buying STs from Rangers The idea was to avoid paying tax on dividends from my steel companies.”

     

    “Mmmm ……..Steal Companies”? said Hector “I don’t like the sound of that. I hope you were stealing from poor people and not from Her Majesty”

     

    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,

     

    “Anyway said Hector,” What happened next”?

     

    “Well” said Minty

     

    “ It was a great wheeze for a couple of years”

     

    “You see Hector . Investing in Ticketus gives poor millionaires like me 30% tax relief because they are putting money into risky companies. But because I owned the risky company I could make sure my investment was free of risk”

     

    “That’s a great wheeze” said Hector. “In fact it`s so great I think it might be illegal. Is this why you asked to see me in Barlinnie? Are you worried about going to the bad fire?

     

    “Not really “ said Minty “When Celtic humped us 6-2 I stopped worrying about the bad fire and started worrying about MON

     

    “My big problem happened on 6 Aug 2012 when Octopus did a press release. They inadvertently revealed that the 14 companies who had been investing in Ticketus since 2009 were the same 14 companies that invested in the Craig Whyte scam”

     

    “Thats interesting” said Hector “Does that mean that you have not just been scamming Lizzie on EBTS but you have also been scamming her on these EIS thingies run by Ticketus “?

     

    “Well you would have to check out the Old Folks Home at Saltcoats “ said Minty

     

    “Maybe the residents are legally to blame for cheating Lizzie.”

     

    Anyway, I need to tell somebody that Octopus are working hard to cover up the scam. They are planning to put Ticketus into liquidation later in the year and move the money to an in house company called Fern Trading. They have created an internal floating charge that means the money can be paid back to the 14 companies. That way Ticketus and the 14 companies can be wound up and nobody will know what happened to the money. When these companies vanish, the residents from the Whyte House will get their Directorships cancelled and poor Lizzie will be done yet again

     

    “Is there any way I can check this story ? said Hector

     

    Well said Minty

     

    You could try this link

     

    http://www.octopusinvestments.com

     

    and search for “Rangers”

     

    “It tells you Ticketus investment in Rangers is currently 15 % of total Ticketus investment and that the 14 companies who put money into Rangers STs in 2011 through Ticketus have been doing so for 3 years ie since I announced my intention to sell a football club”

     

    and you could try this link

     

    http://bizzy.co.uk/uk/OC341356/ticketus-llp

     

    it tells you that on 14 March 2012 Fern Trading Ltd took out a Floating Charge over all the assets of Ticketus

     

    Meaning

     

    Octopus had decided by 14 March 2012 to liquidate Ticketus and move their assets to Fern Trading Ltd That way Octopus could fudge the repayment of monies to the 14 companies who invested in Rangers STs from season 2009-2010 to season 2011-202

     

    “That’s very interesting” said Hector

     

    “Why are you telling me this now”?

     

    “ Cos if I don`t tell you the Bampots will”, said Minty

     

    “Just like they told everybody about Craig Whyte

     

     

    You can`t keep anything secret nowadays”

  4. Thanks Paul

     

     

    Gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside ,like watching The Waltons or Little

     

    house on the prairie.hh

  5. The wee green man:

     

     

    Goosy says:

     

    September 11, 2012 at 00:52

     

    72 0 Rate This

     

    Conversation in Barlinnie

     

     

    “Hector”

     

    ,,,,,,,

     

    “Yes Minty”?

     

    ,,,,,,,,,,

     

    “I`ve got something to tell you”

     

    ,,,,,,,,,,

     

    “Tell me all about it Minty”.

     

    “Well Hector , It’s a long story, I`ll start at the beginning

     

    In 2009 I decided to sell a Football Club. My first step was to visit an Old Folks Home in Saltcoats.

     

    it was called “The Whyte House” or something like that. I remember it was very well built. Solid brick I think. Reminded me of sleeping rough in Burntisland

     

    Anyway, I managed to persuade 14 residents to let me use their name as Directors in 14 different shell companies I was setting up. The plan was to invest in buying STs from Rangers The idea was to avoid paying tax on dividends from my steel companies.”

     

    “Mmmm ……..Steal Companies”? said Hector “I don’t like the sound of that. I hope you were stealing from poor people and not from Her Majesty”

     

    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,

     

    “Anyway said Hector,” What happened next”?

     

    “Well” said Minty

     

    “ It was a great wheeze for a couple of years”

     

    “You see Hector . Investing in Ticketus gives poor millionaires like me 30% tax relief because they are putting money into risky companies. But because I owned the risky company I could make sure my investment was free of risk”

     

    “That’s a great wheeze” said Hector. “In fact it`s so great I think it might be illegal. Is this why you asked to see me in Barlinnie? Are you worried about going to the bad fire?

     

    “Not really “ said Minty “When Celtic humped us 6-2 I stopped worrying about the bad fire and started worrying about MON

     

    “My big problem happened on 6 Aug 2012 when Octopus did a press release. They inadvertently revealed that the 14 companies who had been investing in Ticketus since 2009 were the same 14 companies that invested in the Craig Whyte scam”

     

    “Thats interesting” said Hector “Does that mean that you have not just been scamming Lizzie on EBTS but you have also been scamming her on these EIS thingies run by Ticketus “?

     

    “Well you would have to check out the Old Folks Home at Saltcoats “ said Minty

     

    “Maybe the residents are legally to blame for cheating Lizzie.”

     

    Anyway, I need to tell somebody that Octopus are working hard to cover up the scam. They are planning to put Ticketus into liquidation later in the year and move the money to an in house company called Fern Trading. They have created an internal floating charge that means the money can be paid back to the 14 companies. That way Ticketus and the 14 companies can be wound up and nobody will know what happened to the money. When these companies vanish, the residents from the Whyte House will get their Directorships cancelled and poor Lizzie will be done yet again

     

    “Is there any way I can check this story ? said Hector

     

    Well said Minty

     

    You could try this link

     

    http://www.octopusinvestments.com

     

    and search for “Rangers”

     

    “It tells you Ticketus investment in Rangers is currently 15 % of total Ticketus investment and that the 14 companies who put money into Rangers STs in 2011 through Ticketus have been doing so for 3 years ie since I announced my intention to sell a football club”

     

    and you could try this link

     

    http://bizzy.co.uk/uk/OC341356/ticketus-llp

     

    it tells you that on 14 March 2012 Fern Trading Ltd took out a Floating Charge over all the assets of Ticketus

     

    Meaning

     

    Octopus had decided by 14 March 2012 to liquidate Ticketus and move their assets to Fern Trading Ltd That way Octopus could fudge the repayment of monies to the 14 companies who invested in Rangers STs from season 2009-2010 to season 2011-202

     

    “That’s very interesting” said Hector

     

    “Why are you telling me this now”?

     

    “ Cos if I don`t tell you the Bampots will”, said Minty

     

    “Just like they told everybody about Craig Whyte

     

     

    You can`t keep anything secret nowadays”

     

     

    ****************************************************

     

     

    Wasn’t sure if it was new info, judging by the wows this morning it must be!

     

     

    Hope it checks out…..

  6. dbbia

     

    – Unthanks…. I’ve got (and really like) ‘Here’s the Tender Coming’ from 2 or 3 years ago but haven’t heard the new one. Think I’ll dig out my birthday record token and give it a go.

  7. Link to Goosy post

     

     

    For those with no access to it, here it is:

     

     

    Conversation in Barlinnie

     

     

    “Hector”

     

    ,,,,,,,

     

    “Yes Minty”?

     

    ,,,,,,,,,,

     

    “I`ve got something to tell you”

     

    ,,,,,,,,,,

     

    “Tell me all about it Minty”.

     

    “Well Hector , It’s a long story, I`ll start at the beginning

     

    In 2009 I decided to sell a Football Club. My first step was to visit an Old Folks Home in Saltcoats.

     

    it was called “The Whyte House” or something like that. I remember it was very well built. Solid brick I think. Reminded me of sleeping rough in Burntisland

     

    Anyway, I managed to persuade 14 residents to let me use their name as Directors in 14 different shell companies I was setting up. The plan was to invest in buying STs from Rangers The idea was to avoid paying tax on dividends from my steel companies.”

     

    “Mmmm ……..Steal Companies”? said Hector “I don’t like the sound of that. I hope you were stealing from poor people and not from Her Majesty”

     

    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,

     

    “Anyway said Hector,” What happened next”?

     

    “Well” said Minty

     

    “ It was a great wheeze for a couple of years”

     

    “You see Hector . Investing in Ticketus gives poor millionaires like me 30% tax relief because they are putting money into risky companies. But because I owned the risky company I could make sure my investment was free of risk”

     

    “That’s a great wheeze” said Hector. “In fact it`s so great I think it might be illegal. Is this why you asked to see me in Barlinnie? Are you worried about going to the bad fire?

     

    “Not really “ said Minty “When Celtic humped us 6-2 I stopped worrying about the bad fire and started worrying about MON

     

    “My big problem happened on 6 Aug 2012 when Octopus did a press release. They inadvertently revealed that the 14 companies who had been investing in Ticketus since 2009 were the same 14 companies that invested in the Craig Whyte scam”

     

    “Thats interesting” said Hector “Does that mean that you have not just been scamming Lizzie on EBTS but you have also been scamming her on these EIS thingies run by Ticketus “?

     

    “Well you would have to check out the Old Folks Home at Saltcoats “ said Minty

     

    “Maybe the residents are legally to blame for cheating Lizzie.”

     

    Anyway, I need to tell somebody that Octopus are working hard to cover up the scam. They are planning to put Ticketus into liquidation later in the year and move the money to an in house company called Fern Trading. They have created an internal floating charge that means the money can be paid back to the 14 companies. That way Ticketus and the 14 companies can be wound up and nobody will know what happened to the money. When these companies vanish, the residents from the Whyte House will get their Directorships cancelled and poor Lizzie will be done yet again

     

    “Is there any way I can check this story ? said Hector

     

    Well said Minty

     

    You could try this link

     

    http://www.octopusinvestments.com

     

    and search for “Rangers”

     

    “It tells you Ticketus investment in Rangers is currently 15 % of total Ticketus investment and that the 14 companies who put money into Rangers STs in 2011 through Ticketus have been doing so for 3 years ie since I announced my intention to sell a football club”

     

    and you could try this link

     

    http://bizzy.co.uk/uk/OC341356/ticketus-llp

     

    it tells you that on 14 March 2012 Fern Trading Ltd took out a Floating Charge over all the assets of Ticketus

     

    Meaning

     

    Octopus had decided by 14 March 2012 to liquidate Ticketus and move their assets to Fern Trading Ltd That way Octopus could fudge the repayment of monies to the 14 companies who invested in Rangers STs from season 2009-2010 to season 2011-202

     

    “That’s very interesting” said Hector

     

    “Why are you telling me this now”?

     

    “ Cos if I don`t tell you the Bampots will”, said Minty

     

    “Just like they told everybody about Craig Whyte

     

     

    You can`t keep anything secret nowadays”

  8. Glendalystonsils likes a mr whippy with his lime green jelly on

    It’s the mock indignation and self – righteousness coming from Green that gets me. I don’t know whether to laugh or spew.

  9. Goosy`s post

     

     

    “Goosy says:

     

    September 11, 2012 at 00:52

     

    70 0 Rate This

     

    Conversation in Barlinnie

     

     

    “Hector”

     

    ,,,,,,,

     

    “Yes Minty”?

     

    ,,,,,,,,,,

     

    “I`ve got something to tell you”

     

    ,,,,,,,,,,

     

    “Tell me all about it Minty”.

     

    “Well Hector , It’s a long story, I`ll start at the beginning

     

    In 2009 I decided to sell a Football Club. My first step was to visit an Old Folks Home in Saltcoats.

     

    it was called “The Whyte House” or something like that. I remember it was very well built. Solid brick I think. Reminded me of sleeping rough in Burntisland

     

    Anyway, I managed to persuade 14 residents to let me use their name as Directors in 14 different shell companies I was setting up. The plan was to invest in buying STs from Rangers The idea was to avoid paying tax on dividends from my steel companies.”

     

    “Mmmm ……..Steal Companies”? said Hector “I don’t like the sound of that. I hope you were stealing from poor people and not from Her Majesty”

     

    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,

     

    “Anyway said Hector,” What happened next”?

     

    “Well” said Minty

     

    “ It was a great wheeze for a couple of years”

     

    “You see Hector . Investing in Ticketus gives poor millionaires like me 30% tax relief because they are putting money into risky companies. But because I owned the risky company I could make sure my investment was free of risk”

     

    “That’s a great wheeze” said Hector. “In fact it`s so great I think it might be illegal. Is this why you asked to see me in Barlinnie? Are you worried about going to the bad fire?

     

    “Not really “ said Minty “When Celtic humped us 6-2 I stopped worrying about the bad fire and started worrying about MON

     

    “My big problem happened on 6 Aug 2012 when Octopus did a press release. They inadvertently revealed that the 14 companies who had been investing in Ticketus since 2009 were the same 14 companies that invested in the Craig Whyte scam”

     

    “Thats interesting” said Hector “Does that mean that you have not just been scamming Lizzie on EBTS but you have also been scamming her on these EIS thingies run by Ticketus “?

     

    “Well you would have to check out the Old Folks Home at Saltcoats “ said Minty

     

    “Maybe the residents are legally to blame for cheating Lizzie.”

     

    Anyway, I need to tell somebody that Octopus are working hard to cover up the scam. They are planning to put Ticketus into liquidation later in the year and move the money to an in house company called Fern Trading. They have created an internal floating charge that means the money can be paid back to the 14 companies. That way Ticketus and the 14 companies can be wound up and nobody will know what happened to the money. When these companies vanish, the residents from the Whyte House will get their Directorships cancelled and poor Lizzie will be done yet again

     

    “Is there any way I can check this story ? said Hector

     

    Well said Minty

     

    You could try this link

     

    http://www.octopusinvestments.com

     

    and search for “Rangers”

     

    “It tells you Ticketus investment in Rangers is currently 15 % of total Ticketus investment and that the 14 companies who put money into Rangers STs in 2011 through Ticketus have been doing so for 3 years ie since I announced my intention to sell a football club”

     

    and you could try this link

     

    http://bizzy.co.uk/uk/OC341356/ticketus-llp

     

    it tells you that on 14 March 2012 Fern Trading Ltd took out a Floating Charge over all the assets of Ticketus

     

    Meaning

     

    Octopus had decided by 14 March 2012 to liquidate Ticketus and move their assets to Fern Trading Ltd That way Octopus could fudge the repayment of monies to the 14 companies who invested in Rangers STs from season 2009-2010 to season 2011-202

     

    “That’s very interesting” said Hector

     

    “Why are you telling me this now”?

     

    “ Cos if I don`t tell you the Bampots will”, said Minty

     

    “Just like they told everybody about Craig Whyte

     

     

    You can`t keep anything secret nowadays”

     

     

    JJ

  10. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    TOOTING TIM

     

     

    That “Goosy” post is incroyable!

     

     

    If it holds water,Minty is,erm,goosed. I wonder if anyone can tie Bank of Scotland to Candover Investments.

     

     

    Seed money,perhaps,about thirty years or so ago?

     

     

    Thing is,CI are a rather reputable firm,and if someone is moving heaven and earth on a cover-up in that particular industry,and it came out,well….

     

     

    Let’s say there will be one or two people jumping out of their 4th Floor,Old Bailey offices.

     

     

    And possibly one or two others following them,though less voluntarily.

  11. Ten Men Won The League 10:17

     

     

    I posted the other day about certain clubs being audited by UEFA this month and I was told that there was a story about Sevco if this was used as a starting point.

     

     

    Sevco are not in UEFA competition but they are in a competition overseen by the SFA. If it is deemed they still owe football debt then there may be a wee fax received at Hampden regarding this.

  12. DBBIA

     

     

    Listening to them at the moment, stumbled upon them while watching the Cambridge Folk festival. Never imagined a song about a pigeon could be so moving!

  13. Craig Burley: RANGERS HAVE BEEN PUNISHED ALREADY.

     

     

    Yesterday at a launch of the sequel to his first autobiography “Why I Hate Celtic” in a Walsall bookstore former Celtic hero Craig Burley defended old rivals Rangers. “I back Ally one hundred and fifty percent in his call to reject all these vindictive threats to strip titles- what else can he and Charles Green do? No one at Ibrox will ever accept the decision, even if it happens. If you don’t accept it then it can’t be real and if you believe something is true enough then it has to be. That’s the way it works up in Scotland. It’s always been that way- so why now do people want to change things?

     

    “The decision has already been taken to place Rangers in Division Three and they have heroically accepted that, as well as many, many other vicious and uncalled for punishments. So the question you have to ask is: how come Celtic are getting away Scot free from all this? What part are they playing in all this? Why are Rangers being so brutally victimized by these crooks at the SFA/SPL?

     

    “They are operating with an embargo on an already depleted first team squad, they’ve been relegated to the bottom tier of Scottish football, they have been punished with a European ban and yet the governing body has chosen to impose further sanctions.”

     

    “I don’t see why in terms of the club being punished going forward because maybe mistakes have been made by individuals.

     

    “Whether it was accidental or deliberate these are people that have done these things and I know a lot of people would like to see the club punished but at the end of the day I think Scottish football needs a good, strong Rangers and Celtic. Rangers are too big to fail and they are maybe too big to be punished as well. Good or bad, right or wrong, up or down, inside or out, that’s just they way it is. The fans of other smaller clubs will just have to put that in their pipes and chew on it.

     

    “I’d like to see every team get all the help they can get when they are in financial trouble. Rangers are the greatest Scottish institution outside of Blair Drummond Safari park and Famous Grouse Whisky…you might even argue that to an Ayrshire lad like myself that they are more important than Jesus or Oxygen.

     

    “I think there’s definitely a case of, if rules have been broken then there has to be sanctions for it and maybe some kind of punishment- but Rangers have to have some say it what that is. They should sit around a table at Hampden or Ibrox and have a couple of beers and discuss what kind of sanctions are acceptable. It depends whether the rules have been broken deliberately to try and gain an advantage or whether it’s administrative problems. Personally I think it was just purely error rather than deliberate so you have to take that into account. And the sanctions should be based on the strength of what’s happened and the mistakes that have been made. I think it was all Celtic fault anyway.

     

    How hard can you be on such a great Scottish institution for a clerical error that persisted for a decade or more? If anything it should be the office staff at Rangers that should be punished for all this stuff that’s going on…and anyway if you dig deep enough I bet Celtic have something to do with all this in one way or another.”

     

     

    As told to Rodger Clark of the Daily Sloth.

  14. traditionalist88 on

    Post on SFM:

     

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    ‘Charlie Brown says:

     

    September 11, 2012 at 11:38

     

     

    I don’t know the timescales involved or if he’s bluffing or not but if Rangers / Charles Green resorts to the Civil Courts again then of course he threatens the participation of Celtic in the Champions League and Scotland National teams at all levels and depending how long it drags on perhaps into next season as well plus the prospect that Rangers own membership could be revoked, terminated or suspended indefinitely, regardless of whether they are massively in the wrong or not IF Rangers follow through with these threats they will bring a shitstorm down on Scottish Football as they nearly did over the transfer embargo.

     

     

    Surely they are bluffing and wouldn’t go down that route again?’

     

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  15. That radio interview with Green this morning is just crazy. The man sounds a bit unstable to me and it’s full of contradictions.

     

     

    One example, at around 1m 20s, he says…’you’ve got to listen to the fans’ then at around 3m 0s, he says…’I never listen to the fans’.

  16. TheOriginalSadiesBhoy on

    The Battered Bunnet

     

     

    10:11 on 11 September, 2012

     

     

    This morning I feel as if I have walloped about the head with a large salmon. The confusing image this analogy presents is indicative of the weariness I feel.

     

     

    Why?

     

     

    Andy bleedin’ Murray!

     

     

    Dear Lord. Cruising he was. A straight sets win served on a plate for him. Bed by midnight.

     

     

    Oh no, not Andy. He has to go and do it the hard way, putting me, you, and 5 million other Scots through the wringer, the mangle, and the rack. It was a virtual waterboarding.

     

     

    What sport. What spectacle. He and Djokovic knocked blue murder out of one another for 5 hours, neither prepared to allow the other the decisive moment in the game until finally, with both spent and breaking, Murray prevailed.

     

     

    What a moment for him. What a moment for us.

     

     

    Sport is made of such moments.

     

     

    Wonderful.

     

     

    ……………………………………………………………

     

     

    I couldn’t have put it better myself. I watched every minute of it and suffered with Andy, his family and Ivan Lendl! I cursed him, I cheered him to the rafters. I was physically and emotionally spent by the end of the 3rd Set. I prayed for him and tried to put a hex on Novak Djokovic ……….. it was unbelievable drama and unbelievable tennis – long rallies with whoever blinked first losing the point.

     

     

    I am absolutely delighted for Andy – a great performance, delivered the hard way. A great contest between two great players who gave so much they could hardly stand at the end.

     

     

    Well done Andy – US Open winner – Grand Slam winner!

  17. Excellent article Paul. You are doing a grand job at keeping an eye on the salient elements of this story. Clearly Green wants to muddy the waters, and to bamboozle everyone with his changes of emphasis and definition; his sinister elision of old and new clubs…

     

     

    His goal, ultimately, is to make money: as much and as quickly as possible. He needs the Sevconians onside for this, and has clearly decided to pitch his utterances at what he perceives to be their sweet spot – hence the aggressive, paranoid, logic-free ramblings of late.

     

     

    He will be gone soon, richer and laughing all the way to the bank. Sevco will be a shell in need of a saviour on a white horse. Scottish football will be a wasteground, its authorities devastated by their own craven coninvance with this latest in a line of spivs to control “Rangers”.

     

     

    It’s like a Russian novel…

  18. So greeny boy is saying that I can’t believe it’s not sevco have been kicked out of a league that he claims they were never in… It’s like watching a snake eat it’s own tail….

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