Green has more to worry about than title stripping

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Charles Green, owner of “The Rangers Football Club Limited“, formed in May this year, yesterday released a remarkable statement yesterday, ahead of the SPL Commission into How Rangers FC, formed in 1872, registered football players for over a decade.

“In short, what was decided by the SPL membership is that Rangers was finished as a member of the SPL. Despite this, the SPL now see the new owners of the company, and the new company itself, which owns all the assets of Rangers FC – including SPL championship titles – as fair game for punishment for matters that have nothing to do with us at all.”

We dealt with the purchasing of history on here some months ago. Once we realised it was possible, I snapped up ancient Egyptian history, the period from the pharaohs until Mark Antony. I AM responsible for the Pyramids of Giza but any slavery which may or may not have been used in their construction is NOTHING to do with me.

No one complained about the use of slaves at the time and I am sure each pyramid would have been constructed whether slaves were used of not. If slaves were so necessary for the construction I am sure “we” would have built many more.

Mr Green seems keen to protest against the SPL process, however, he, frankly, fails miserably. He doesn’t “question the impartiality of the individual panel members” but assets “whatever decision they reach is a decision of the SPL”.

So that will be independent members reaching a decision for the SPL! I think he doth protest too little.

There is also a threat: “”To make it crystal clear, the new owners purchased all the business and assets of Rangers, including titles and trophies. Any attempt to undermine or diminish the value of those assets will be met with the stiffest resistance, including legal recourse.”

Charles Green took steps to undermine his new company’s claim on Rangers titles in a BBC interview in June when he said that if his CVA proposal was to fail (which it did) and Rangers were to be liquidated (which they are), “the history, the tradition, everything that’s great about this club is swept aside”.

“Legal recourse”, which is prohibited by Fifa and which the SFA accommodated from Duff and Phelps, acting on behalf of Rangers, will provide Scottish football with a further drama.  We mentioned at the time that the true cost of the SFA being so accommodating would be a repeat performance.

Mr Green asks why the “football authorities do nothing to address an issue that was public knowledge for at least two years, and was reported in the Club’s accounts for several years”? I think I can help here. Sir David Murray, who owned Rangers during the duration of its Employee Benefit Trust years, categorically denied that the club issued players with second contracts which were not submitted to the authorities. He reiterated this point most recently on a Sky News interview in March.

The football authorities have no issues whatsoever with Employee Benefit Trusts, it’s player contracts they insist are registered. Rangers insisted they had no case to answer until the SPL set a deadline on Duff and Phelps to fully disclose the nature of the alleged second contracts.

Charles claims during those lurid weeks when the SPL and SFA were negotiating with Green, that Neil Doncaster “repeatedly stated he was not interested in stripping titles from Rangers”. If he had evidence of this, ANY evidence, it would be fascinating.

If not, we should dismiss this claim.

A curious barb is made in other directions, “Rangers was not the only Club in Scotland to use EBTs yet nothing was done and little has been heard about it”.

One more time, for Mr Green’s benefit, EBTs are not against football regulations whatsoever. They are entirely legal and permitted by the SFA and SPL. The SPL Commission is not investigating whether Rangers used EBTs or not, it will investigate whether or not all player contracts were registered.

Mr Green goes on to make varied comments against “powerful representatives from Clubs within the SPL…. who appear hell bent on inflicting as much damage on Rangers as possible”, and that some “clubs were placed in an invidious position and we believe their interests were not best served by those in more powerful positions”.

Let’s have some context here. If we were to make a list of those who inflicted most damage on Rangers, representatives from other clubs would scarcely merit a mention. Those who allowed the club to spend more than it earned for so many years, who introduced the perilous tax avoidance system, those who failed to make accommodations for HMRC’s claim when it was first made, and those directors who personally benefited from the EBT scheme all carry primary responsibility.

Then would come the cheerleaders for the disastrous Craig Whyte regime – those who last year campaigned for the takeover, including putting pressure on Lloyds Banking Group to accept the terms.

Rangers opponents were spectators throughout this period. Any suggestion that our club were anything but opponents to Rangers, and alleged victims of trophies won by illegally registered players, when they should have been campaigning on behalf of their rivals, seriously misreads what was an established Glasgow rivalry. Of course it would be the same the other way – and rightly so.

Despite clearly feeling strongly about the Commission, Green didn’t address the key point….

There was no denial of the central charge that for a decade or more Rangers fielded improperly registered football players.

Yesterday some people suggested Green had offered the Lance Armstrong defence but Armstrong denied he was guilty while refusing to participate in the investigation into doping. This is a different matter altogether. Green has offered up something for every conceivable paranoid condition without actually claiming Rangers are wrongly accused.

The headlines today are all about titles being stripped but that is not the main topic in play. More importantly, after titles are stripped, what punishment will the SPL Commission levy on the Rangers membership, granted to Sevco in June?

The sheer scale of the charge makes this question incalculable. The toxicity attached to that membership is untenable and no bogeymen at other clubs, at the SPL or SFA are responsible for that.

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  1. Philbhoy - It's just the beginning! on

    DBBIA

     

     

    Agree about the WC qualies tonight.

     

     

    What news about our heroes who were injured in the CL qualies?

     

     

    (Good to have you back!)

  2. theweegreenman14:23 on11 September, 2012:

     

    >>>>>>

     

    I lifted them from TSFM. RankMedia is open to all : I avoid going there myself because I did once and ended up feeling sick.

     

    But, and I’ll admit my lack of integrity here, I will read what is said if someone goes into the darkness and returns with the goods.

     

    AfraidOfTheDark CSC

  3. Steinreignedsupreme on

    Superb article.

     

     

    Green is simply using the template Murray and Whyte have before him. King, Calamity, Wullie Jardine, the Bommur, and the Blue Knight have all borrowed the template at various times as well.

     

     

    It mesmerises the ‘loyal’ supporters of two clubs to the point that it paralyses them.

  4. Ten Men Won The League

     

    10:11 on

     

    11 September, 2012

     

    Copy of Downfall just delivered by the postie

     

     

    That’s the rest of the day taken care of

     

     

    ________________________________________________________________

     

     

    Can I have yours when you’be finished wi’ it TMWTL; I ordered said tome a week ago and was advised it would be delivered any time from 12 to16 September but I got an email this morning stating:

     

     

     

    We regret to inform you that the following items have been delayed as we are

     

    still awaiting stock from our suppliers :

     

     

    Phil Mac Giolla Bhain “Downfall: How Rangers FC Self Destructed”

     

    Estimated arrival date: September 26 2012 – October 03 2012

     

     

     

     

    I can only hope this means the publishers have been overwhelmed by demand.

     

     

    Naethingtoread CSC

  5. Lennon n Mc....Mjallby on

    “We Arra Peepil…….We Deserve Better,eh……It’s Time To Batter People In The Street.”

  6. hendrix6714:26 on 11 September, 2012

     

    >>>>>>>

     

    Yes. God bless your granny.

     

    (My granny was also my godmother and saved my life when I was a baby. I loved her greatly.

     

    She taught at St. Anthony’s primary school in Govan for decades. A lovelier wee woman you’d never meet.)

  7. Just went back to Alex Thomson’s blog and found the reply that wonkyradar highlighted earlier on – dates from the 13th August from someone calling themself, ‘Bloom’.

     

     

    (Obvious) Bloom(ing) hun more like!

     

     

    HH!!

  8. Henriks Sombrero on

    From Fallow Fallow – Dingwall no less.

     

     

    ‘Chico is toying with them now. ‘

     

     

    They are the definition of deluded.

  9. ASonOfDan

     

    13:25 on 11 September, 2012

     

     

    I will never tire of reading this.

     

     

    “To make it crystal clear, the new owners purchased all the business and assets of Rangers, including titles and trophies.”

     

     

    So can the green meanie sue the zombies/himself for selling/buying him something/something not that was/was not rightfully/wrongfully theirs/his to sell/buy to/from him/them?

     

     

    I think . . . . . . . .? Mt brain hurts.

     

     

    Yurcl

  10. Steinreignedsupreme on

    miki67 14:21 on 11 September, 2012

     

     

    “his is where the hysteria is taking the blue meanies :

     

    [ Looks like CG rabble rousing has had the desired effect with the sevconians on RM.One poster declared “this is our boyne” while another is ready for battle by declaring”its time to batter people in the street”. ]

     

    “razier and crazier. And it’s not very funny.”

     

     

    I can type ‘I’m going to kill you’ – and I know you’re not going to feel threatened because we both know it is not going to happen … even if we have a major disagreement.

     

     

    The people who make these threats are less likely to carry them out, as that would involve actually facing up to an individual rather that typing in anonymity from the safety of their computer desks.

  11. Mr X loves having a "fly kick" on

    There is a wonderful irony in Charles Green stating that he bought the titles and trophies. After all, that’s exactly what Sir Busted Flush was doing during the EBT years!

  12. Personally..

     

     

    Ah dinnae pay any attention tae Past History.. especially, whit his happened in Sportsdom

     

     

     

    fur..it is .. in the Past…

     

     

    Ah only Pey attention tae .. The Present.

     

     

    Fur ..The Present is.. Brand Spankin’… New~

     

     

    Like that Present ye ur opening , in Breathless Anticipation..on a Christmas Morn

     

     

    The Present Time. is where ye get yer Kicks, it is Exciting ..

     

     

    Fur it is Happening.. Right Afore Ye~

     

     

    The Past, is Deid and Buried.. Nae Kicks..or Excitement that be found there.

     

    Move along ..Folks.

     

     

    And.. as an added thought..

     

     

    Ah dinna Care whit the F.G.A.is daein’

     

     

    Ah only care whit the Celtic ur Daein’

     

     

    Right, Virginia?

     

     

    Maks sense.. Tae Me.

     

     

    Kojo

     

     

    Still.. Laughin’

  13. hendrix67

     

     

     

    14:26 on 11 September, 2012

     

     

     

    Bhoys and ghirls, please say a wee prayer for my wee granny, she’s 85, bed ridden and suffers dementia. She was rushed to the western last night with a urine and chest infection and now she has pneumonia and isn’t responding well.

     

    ——————————————————————————————————————

     

    I will be at a service with Archbishop Tartaglia tonight and will offer a wee prayer for your granny.

  14. “This is our Boyne”;

     

     

    “It’s time to batter people in the street”.

     

     

    They like to be ‘up to their knees…’, as long as the odds are stacked in their favour – eg lone PC in Manchester, battering defenceless homeless people, terrifying women and young children…

     

     

    Yes, they are a brave lot – but, sadly, still dangerous!

     

     

    HH!!

  15. steinreignedsupreme

     

    >>>>>>

     

    Yes. I understand that . I’m surprised I can still feel shocked by huns . But I do take your point.

     

    HH.

  16. ” Batter people in the streets”

     

     

    They must have got bored with battering [ and then deep frying ]—

     

     

    Pizza

     

    Mars Bars .

     

    Cadbury’s Creme Eggs .

     

     

    Do you want a pickle with your supper ? CSC -Way down south.

  17. Lennon n Mc....Mjallby on

    Tunis

     

     

    They must be thinking about how to celebrate if they win the Harry Ramsdens Cup.

  18. Anybody else forget there was a Scotland gmae tonight?

     

     

    Team line-up just announced as McGregor; Hutton, Berra, Webster, Dixon; Caldwell, Morrison; Forrest, Mackie, Maloney; Miller

     

     

    Slightly better than the last one, although Maloney should be behind the striker. On the left he’s less effective. Can only imagine, in sticking with the mis-firing Miller, that Levein sees Rhodes as not lone striker material.

  19. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    Jandy Sardine and Bomber are marchin’ marchin’ over the dunes to reclaim the Pyramids.

     

     

    Cadizzy would join them but there is no train connection from Croydon East to Giza, that doesn’t involve changin’ at Liverpool St, something he is naturally loathe to do.

  20. BlantyreKev

     

     

    Funniest post of the day..

     

     

    I would prefer some kind of leasing arrangement rather than an outright purchase.What if buying a history brought along unimagined sadness and despair.

     

    I personally would do a week long lease of Ian Durrant.

     

     

    Can you imagine how it would feel to be so thick and ugly for a whole week??

     

     

    And would you know you had the aforementioned afflictions..

     

    or would you be too thick??What if you forgot to end the loan..

  21. Steinreignedsupreme on

    miki67 14:55 on 11 September, 2012

     

     

    A Hun I know – nice enough fulla, but the definition of ‘thick’ – said to me about five months ago that HMRC would do a deal on the big tax case with Rangers (In Administration) because they wouldn’t want to deal with a “backlash”.

     

     

    After I stopped laughing, I asked him what the ‘backlash’ would entail – he couldn’t give me an answer.

     

     

    Eventually he said – well, I’ve heard they are going to do a deal. That’s all I am saying. I offered him a bet of 100 of his British Pounds that no deal would be done … he refused the wager.

  22. GREEN RELEASES STATEMENT TO THE SEVCO VANGUARD:

     

     

    I would say to the Hordes, as I said to those who have joined this Cause: “I have nothing to offer but my blood, toil, tears, sweat and snotters. Even though large tracts of Europe and many old and famous monuments have fallen or may fall into the grip of the hordes, let them not disparage us so fiercely. We will fight on like blood soaked beasts with murder on our minds. We shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in the pubs, we shall fight on the buses and taxi stands, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength, we shall defend our honour and our name, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the waste grounds, we shall fight in the fields and batter them in the streets, we shall fight in the bookies, in the newsagents, at the burger van; and we shall never surrender.

  23. My Dear,dear,dear,friend..Up Over Goal

     

     

    Hi ya,pal?

     

     

    Nice tae greet ye..

     

     

    Yep. Me..

     

     

    Ah didnae know that Scotland wur Playing..

     

     

    As regards, Young Jamesy,being in the Team..

     

     

    Ah wull be oan tenter hooks.

     

     

    Wull he be anither.. name. added tae tae the list o’ oor already burgeoning wan?

     

     

    Ah believe that there is a Very Serious Possibility o’ the Happenin’~

     

     

    It seems the Celtic Player’s are Especially Targetted, in these Games..

     

     

    Ah don’t know why..but it seens that way tae me.

     

     

    Kojo

     

    yer pal..who likes ye aloater

     

     

    Still,Laughin’

  24. Football: Uefa hands out first financial fair play penalties

     

    Comments (38)

     

    Uefa has imposed its first financial fair play sanctions by temporarily withholding prize money from 23 clubs for failing to comply with the rules.

     

     

    Europa League winners Atletico Madrid, Malaga, Sporting and Fenerbahce are among those under scrutiny.

     

     

    Clubs face further investigation because of overdue payments to other clubs, employees or tax authorities.

     

     

    European football’s governing body introduced the rules to force clubs to operate within their means.

     

     

    The 23 clubs have been given a deadline of 30 September to prove that their finances are in order.

     

     

    Teams playing in all Uefa club competitions have been monitored since the start of the 2011/12 season.

     

     

    The are tasked with breaking even in 2012 and 2013 and being assessed during the 2013/14 season.

     

     

    Clubs under investigation:

     

     

    FK Borac Banja Luka (Bosnia)

     

     

    FK Sarajevo (Bosnia)

     

     

    FK Zeljeznicar (Bosnia)

     

     

    PFC CSKA Sofia (Bulgaria)

     

     

    HNK Hajduk Split (Croatia)

     

     

    NK Osijek (Croatia)

     

     

    Club Atletico de Madrid (Spain)

     

     

    Malaga CF (Spain)

     

     

    Maccabi Netanya FC (Israel)

     

     

    FK Shkendija 79 (Macedonia)

     

     

    Floriana FC (Malta)

     

     

    FK Buducnost Podgorica (Montenegro)

     

     

    FK Rudar Pjevlja (Montenegro)

     

     

    Ruch Chorzow (Poland)

     

     

    Sporting Clube de Portugal (Portugal)

     

     

    FC Dinamo Bucuresti (Romania)

     

     

    FC Rapid Bucuresti (Romania)

     

     

    FC Vaslui (Romania)

     

     

    FC Rubin Kazan (Russia)

     

     

    FK Partizan (Serbia)

     

     

    FK Vojvodina (Serbia)

     

     

    Eskisehirspor (Turkey)

     

     

    Fenerbahce SK (Turkey)

  25. No Celtic players in the starting line-up tonight.

     

     

    Good!

     

     

    Young Forrest on the bench ‘though I take it?

     

     

    Will be watching Italy v Malta – local derby!

     

     

    No Celtic players in those starting line-ups either!

     

     

    Might get a few goals – for Italy I mean!

     

     

    HH!!

  26. The Prince of Goalkeepers on

    Kayal33

     

     

    from Twitter-

     

     

    Brian McNally ‏@McNallyMirror

     

     

    Levein makes 3 changes for Macedonia: McGregor; Hutton, Berra, Webster, Dixon; Caldwell, Morrison; Forrest, Mackie, Maloney; Miller.

  27. Apparently:

     

     

    McGregor, Dixon, Berra, Webster, Hutton, Caldwell, Maloney, Morisson, Mackie, Forrest, Miller.

     

     

    Caldevarho deployed in that ‘holding role’ in which he excelled in the hoops (hic)

  28. I used to know, down here in Dorset, a couple of what used to be called ‘rangers supporters’….friendly enough in their “we’re all Scots” bonhomie….then the bomb dropped and overnight they turned into ravening huns ; all of a sudden I was no longer Scottish, but a fenian *******. I wasn’t at all surprised. I think they’d forgotten for a while that I, too, grew up in Glasgow. But of course, that hardly mattered to them : I was always going to be a second class citizen in their red, white and blue eyes . But while they were strolling along, not walking away, they could tolerate me in their two-faced way.

     

    At least this débacle has shown them in their true colours. They’ll probably move away soon. They are not making any friends with their outspoken bigotry. They don’t seem to understand that a lot of English people are not like them, just because they fly the butcher’s apron and support Ingurland once every couple of years.

     

    Stupid huns. Of course, I don’t say that to their faces. I’m not that stupid.

  29. RalphWaldoEllison fights ALS on

    Paul

     

     

    Thanks for helping with understanding the context of Green’s schoolboy rant.

     

     

    His “logic” was breathtaking throughout, but when he claimed that there some seasons where they used EBTs yet didn’t win trophies, ergo they couldn’t have been cheating, is one of my favourites.

     

     

    Green has quickly become as bad as the worst of their fans.

     

     

    Like them, his reactions are Anger, Denial, Bargaining, Depression.

     

     

    They never, ever get to Acceptance.

     

     

    Just ask Phil.

     

     

    (My Amazon order is delayed for the reprint)

     

     

    HH