Green/Whyte enablers, racism and Ibrox security

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Have you ever seen a ‘Rangers’ director pushed by a journalist on a question he dodged before yesterday?  It’s never happened.  STV’s Peter Smith did something no journalist in the history of Scottish football has done before, pressed a question when the man in charge at Ibrox dodged the initial inquiry.  Smith dismissed the deserved praise that came his way last night by suggesting it’s what a journalist does.  True, but refreshing nonetheless.

I was reminded last night that Green’s examination by the old media has come earlier in his journey to the bottom that Craig Whyte’s did last season.  Whyte was being backed by some, let’s call them enablers, right up until the week before Rangers went into administration.  Unfortunately for Green some in the media, and perhaps a few in the support, were embarrassed by their backing of Whyte last year and will not repeat the mistake.

Apart from the aforementioned Green, I have only ever known one person to use the word “darkie” (I missed 1970s ‘comedians’).  He was born in the first years of the 20th century, too young for the first war and too old to be conscripted for the second.  Well into his 90s, I heard him say “there are a lot of darkies on TV these days”.  He was reprimanded and immediately realised what he had done.  An apology and a period of over-compensation followed.

It falls to SFA president Campbell Ogilvie to ensure that such language has no place in Scottish football.  Disciplinary proceedings should be issued, unless, of course, the SFA view the matter in a different light.  Any future appearance of a Charles Green image on a banner or effigy at Celtic Park, or use of the words ‘Our New Hero’ to describe him, should not be regarded as an endorsement of his views, only his work in football.

Celtic minstrels will write songs about him, I have heard the words “man-love” being used this week.

Will Newco stay active long enough for Craig Whyte’s security over Ibrox, crystallised by yesterday’s ruling that he owes Ticketus circa £17m and therefore had a piece of the action at Rangers after all, to have an effect?  There are so many icebergs around Newco probably not.

It was interesting to hear Manchester United’s endorsement of Newco as a potential English Premier League club being debated on STV.  Now out of Europe, Manchester United were asked if they would play a fundraiser at Ibrox later this month.  I hope Green’s comments on the interview don’t spoil relations.

I was pleased to hear we were drawn at home for the next game but for pity’s sake, sending Motherwell to Tannadice the day before defeats the point. This is a complete failure.

Add this to the fact that Fraser Forster’s biggest fan is making his First Holy Communion when we are at home to St Johnstone on 11 May and you get a taste of the frustration in our house last night.

He realises the importance of his First Communion but thought we could cancel the party afterwards and have an alternative celebration at Celtic Park. We’ll distract him on the day…..

As many of you are already aware, the Celtic Trust have arranged a process whereby, if you live in Scotland, you can easily contact your MSP to back the FAC call for an inquiry into policing at the Gallowgate last month.  You can find the information and template here, go do it.
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  1. Hen1rik a strong piece my friend . How any celt thinks we would get a level playing field in this country amazes me . They will be back in the top flight .then the next step at all costs is european football, without that all the effort to get them back is wasted , as they cannot survive without the euro cash . The catalogue of help they have received from the govrrning body of scottish football shows our position in this country is untenable . Surely the proof is there if pursued to make a case for leaving scottish football . Cos if we stay we willbonly be allowd to win when they let us .

     

     

    Jimtim

  2. jimtim

     

     

    Who is going to pay to run their club for the next three years if they survive to get them back to the SPL and into Europe should they have a team good enough to be in the top half of the SPL???

  3. Bhoys – can you help us out – don’t know if I am remembering wrongly- was there an initial meeting /expression of interest of FAC to which turned up a crowd of currants to disrupt it – I might be just making it up or adding different bits together

  4. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    I have a lot of ole tapes.

     

     

    Mainly C90s courtesy of ole Dick Byrne, given into my possession in lieu of pounds sterling, on promise that one day they would be ‘worth their weight in gold’.

  5. iki

     

     

     

    Dont you love how the MSP’s emphasise ‘unauthorised march’ and not the brutality of the polis.

  6. tomleedstim

     

     

    Depends on who the whole lot are. I just posted this on tsfm.

     

     

    I’ve read a couple of references to Watergate. Although I remember it unfolding it was later that I took an interest and the similarity in terms of attempting to protect The President is stark.

     

     

    Tellingly what turned out to be the smoking gun was a taped conversation between Nixon and his aids (probably Haldeman, Erlichmann and John Dean) where they discussed Watergate and approach to it at a date much earlier than Nixon had already told the public he had first became aware of the matter. Nixon was caught in a lie to the American publc. You can lie in authority all you like, as long as you do not get caught.

     

     

    Now it is purely conjecture that a smoking gun, in tape form anyway, exists but it is entirely plausible that SDM and CW were in collusion as were CW, D&P and CG.

     

     

    Now if SDM can cough up £17M or more to get CW off the hook we might hear no more, but reading about SDMs plight at MIH I think that unlikely. Of course to complete the circle the bank might have been in on it too and they might find the readies to keep CW happy.

     

     

    If it all goes quiet, somebody has.

  7. Come on ghuys. What kind of digital bampots are yeez if you think Craigy bhoy is using tapes? He’s got this on amr files. He may have emailed one or two to some journo or other, but he’s not handing over tapes.

     

     

    And on King, TBB is surely correct. Not least because people in his organisation are being, shall we say, encouraged to play things by the book for a wee while after recent events.

     

     

    Exclusive access to evidence of a major story. The opportunity to stand up against scandal. Let’s bury it. Who wants to run that past the Murdochs that got their bahookeys felt by the House of Commons select committee last year? And it’s something they are going to be paying close attention to for a long time to come. Rebekah Brooks’ trial starts in September.

  8. jackie mac

     

    12:09 on

     

    11 April, 2013

     

    Bhoys – can you help us out – don’t know if I am remembering wrongly- was there an initial meeting /expression of interest of FAC to which turned up a crowd of currants to disrupt it – I might be just making it up or adding different bits together

     

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    There was a meeting up Dennistoun way I think and it was disrupted. Check the Celtic Trust Web site archives.

  9. One wonders what the Celtic boards reaction would be should an attempt to fast track a Zombie FC MkII into top level Scottish football happen by granting them SFA membership and possibly placing them into Division 1 / SPL 2 should reconstruction in any guise happen. What would our board do – emmmmmmmm!

     

     

    Of course this is all based on the premise that the SFA would have the testes to kick Zombie FC Mk1 out of the league system for telling fibs in the first instance.

  10. 29/03/2012

     

    ‘Former Rangers chief executive Martin Bain has abandoned his £900,000 damages claim against the football club.

     

     

    Mr Bain had been suing over alleged breach of contract following Craig Whyte’s takeover last year.

     

     

    He had £480,000 of the club’s assets ring-fenced pending settlement.

     

     

    Mr Bain said he was prepared to return this sum, minus legal expenses, to Rangers’ administrators and stressed his legal action had been aimed at Craig Whyte and not the club.

     

     

    The former chief executive was alleging breach of contract following the takeover at Rangers by venture capitalist Mr Whyte from the former owner Sir David Murray.’

     

     

     

    Pretty sure we will find out soon enough his real reason for dropping the action…

  11. Tim Malone Will Tell

     

     

    When the MBB first hit the scene he had a ‘palatial spread’ in Switzerland (ok a lock-up of sorts/ P.O. Box out of town).

     

     

    Guaranteed that his previous ‘Walter Mitty’ escapades will have taught him to; tape, copy, download and store in a place where its very difficult for the Authorities to get at it (even with a warrant).

  12. jackie mac

     

     

     

    I am certain the huns had been invited, as it affected all fans and they ended up doing what huns do.

  13. googybhoy ♥ Celtic

     

     

     

    The SFA have at least some financial grounds for refusing to grant a licence for next season and the latest events make it harder for them to stay out the licencing picture.

     

     

    Club licencing is the SFA’s greatest lever over all clubs and it is their unwillingness/refusal to use it that has created the mess.

  14. Phil MacGiollaBhain ‏@Pmacgiollabhain 58s Apparently there is list of people that Craig Whyte did NOT record. It is a small list. #SevcoFiasco

  15. Scottish Football Association (SFA) chief executive Stewart Regan has admitted lessons have been learned from the friction caused within the domestic game by the downfall of Rangers and league reconstruction plans.

     

     

    Rangers’ high-profile financial demise dominated the headlines last year as Scottish football stakeholders debated the future of the Glasgow giant. The consortium of English businessman Charles Green in June completed its takeover in a £5.5 million newco acquisition that resulted in the liquidation of administration-hit Rangers in its original guise. The club was subsequently demoted from the Scottish Premier League to the Third Division – the country’s bottom tier of professional football.

     

     

    Rangers’ struggles coincided with efforts to reform the Scottish football system. The plan includes a new league structure, incorporating a pyramid system, and will see the merger of the Scottish Premier League (SPL) and Scottish Football League (SFL) into a single league body. The new structure incorporates a league system with two leagues of 12 and an 18-team league. The two leagues of 12 will then separate into three mini-leagues of eight after 22 rounds of fixtures. The 12-12-18 structure has been put forward by the SPL, with the SFL having previously backed a 16-10-16 system. Scottish football currently operates a system of three leagues of 10 clubs below the 12-team SPL.

     

     

    The process is still rumbling on and BBC Sport on Tuesday reported that the proposed changes had suffered a setback after it emerged that information required for clubs to vote on the matter has not been provided. It is believed that the SFL has still not allowed access to documents, with clubs due to vote on April 19. Commenting on the seismic changes within Scottish football over the past year, Regan said at the Soccerex European Forum: “Rangers are an institution in Scotland. When a club like that gets into trouble the ripple effect is felt across the nation. If we had to take one big learning from that time it was not attempting to take on too much in one period, with also trying to tackle league reconstruction at same time. If we had perhaps focused on the Rangers case there wouldn’t have been the levels of animosity and ill-feeling that we experienced at the start of the season.”

  16. praecepta

     

    12:20 on

     

    11 April, 2013

     

    Tim Malone Will Tell

     

     

    When the MBB first hit the scene he had a ‘palatial spread’ in Switzerland (ok a lock-up of sorts/ P.O. Box out of town).

     

     

    Guaranteed that his previous ‘Walter Mitty’ escapades will have taught him to; tape, copy, download and store in a place where its very difficult for the Authorities to get at it (even with a warrant).

     

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    Not sure if the UK has an extradition agreement with Monaco. Monaco is not a member of the EU so perhaps the UK police can do ‘hee haw’ to Craighy Bhoy whilst he suns himself and drip feeds tasty morsels of scandal to the English press. Strange that the Police raids started after Moonbeams was linked to an allegedly ‘ damming’ taped conversation that is allegedly in the possesion CW.

  17. My post at 12:26 I left without a comment to let you form your own opinion. It looks to me, like Regan is saying they should have done more for rangers and concentrated all their efforts on them rather than the whole of Scottish Football.

  18. ASonOfDan

     

    12:29

     

     

    Give the guy a chance. He’s only just recovered the power of speech after a mysterious silence lasting months.

  19. From MTH via twitter.

     

    Dunfermline banned from the Cup, Sevco rules don’t seem to apply here then? Cheating bast**** the SFA are….

     

     

    When is someone going to pull this corrupt lot up its getting beyond a joke now.