Congratulations to all at Celtic on securing our fourth consecutive trophy. Those of us who lived through the 90s (and those who also lived through the 50s) know how precious these times are.
Collecting that trophy yesterday is not the act of a vastly better resourced club picking up what is their divine right. It is the consequence of over a century of struggle, denial and sacrifice. The current success of Celtic is as remarkable as it looked to be unlikely for much of its existence.
The reflective glory that shines on all of us is the gift of downtrodden ancestors who wanted to escape hardship. When the trophies arrive, celebrate a deliverance.
Throughout the first half yesterday Celtic were well below their normal incisiveness. You and I have seen so many League Cups slip away over the years against weaker opponents. At halftime I thought, “All it will take is a half-chance for Motherwell and it’s the same old story.” Instead, James Forrest found the breakthrough and Craig Gordon (and the post) were up to the job when called upon.
Motherwell manager Steve Robinson has done very well but he set himself up for a fall after beating Newco in the semi-final. Pedro Caixinha was correct predicted Motherwell would not finished the final with 11 men on the field.
The get-into-their-face/leg/body approach was Motherwell’s best strategy for taking on Celtic (and Newco), but there’s no point crying about the consequences afterwards, when you lose.
There has been more heat than light shed on the penalty incident, a consequence of seasonal pantomime analysis. Ask any referee the question he is trained to ask himself in this scenario:
What is Kirpe’s arm doing across Scott Sinclair?
His arm is there to inhibit his opponent. No one will be able to give you an alternative scenario.
The incident would have been a foul and a yellow card anywhere else on the field. That is the statutory punishment for putting an arm round opponent in possession, unless it is a goal-scoring opportunity, in which case the card should be red.
It is unacceptable for a player to fall to the ground when he was not fouled, but not only is it acceptable to fall when you have been fouled, it is expected, unless you want the referee to play advantage.
I do feel sorry for Kipre, who by that stage of the game must have assumed his could foul and hack with impunity, but as well as pumping him up to play this brand of robust football, his manager should educate him on the consequences of putting an arm around and in front of an opponent inside the box.
There is a lesson here for Celtic too. When we lose a cup (or a game), it is likely to be when we concede a penalty and a red card.
Chris Sutton and Neil Lennon: love your work, but your performances on TV yesterday is why good analysts learn the guidelines given to referees. Stick to baiting Newco fans and finishing second in the league respectively.
Moussa, love your work too, but I don’t like penalties that go right down the middle of the goal. Note that every keeper in the land watched yesterday’s game and many will gamble on your repeating the exercise next time you face them from the spot. This is a tactic you must use sparingly.
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CORKCELT on 27TH NOVEMBER 2017 10:10 PM
The point is that Neil Lennon and Chris Sutton shouldn’t be insulted and abused for calling the decision as they see it. Certainly not by people who call themselves Celtic fans. But I suppose some fans are like that. Fickle.
THOMTHETHIM FOR OSCAR OK
I’m sure I saw a mention of one ref on tv or radio saying exactly why Thompson was right.
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Mickybhoy 1888 @ 9.42
Did big Chris get to you when he said that? :-)
THOMTHETHIM FOR OSCAR OK on 27TH NOVEMBER 2017 9:59 PM
Have a raft of ex refs been produced to support the beleaguered Craig Thomson yet
Dougal and Clark must be busy on the masonic/ bowling club circuit..
CORKCELT on 27TH NOVEMBER 2017 10:10 PM
We won a trophy yesterday. The 4th in a row, unbeaten in Scotland for 65 games. Going to win 7 in a row this season. Strong chance of doing an unprecedented double treble, & extremely strong chance of getting into knock out stage of Europa Cup.
The whole bloody day dominated by bickering over the penalty when we should be rejoicing
In my opinion no team in the World has been robbed by controversial decisions as much as we have.
We were awarded a penalty , so bloody what,
We are where we are on merit, we have nothing to be ashamed of, We were leading & cruising before the penalty, this is a pile of crap we should move on & stop this annoying debate.
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Well said Corky. Happens every weekend and not a word uttered.
It’s not even a debate – just gum-bumpin, hand-wringin, kow-towin dilettante snowflakes getting their wet knickers in a twist…
:-)))
All this nonsense brings to mind a Word Cup several years ago. They made any challenge from the rear a red card offence. There was no discretion and even successful tackles that only made contact with the ball saw players walk. Very few of the opening games finished with 22 men on the field. If Scott was in a goal scoring position in the box, it doesn’t matter how fly the tug was… penalty, sending off.
Gerry , he had a great day , thanks. I hope you did also.
When we got home after the game, he came in , charged his phone for ten minutes then headed out about 6 o’clock. He had a kebab before going to the pub.
The pub he was in , was full of adeste fideles Celtic supporters , joyful and triumphant. No football songs allowed so when the karaoke started , the majority of songs selected , were ones which could be adpated to include Celtic references.
I asked him if Fairground Attraction’s Perfect was sung , he did not have a clue what that song is . Its perfect for adapting to a Celtic related somg.
Judith has made a great recovery after her team lost at Hampden….
Garcia at 7.24
Just read your excellent post.
Magnificent
Eurochamps67
Can you believe this crap?
SunSport understands the winger won’t face a Notice of Complaint from SFA compliance officer Tony McGlennan.
It’s believed the fact there was contact, albeit minimal, between the players before Sinclair went down has persuaded the authorities there was no dive.
Dallas 10.43pm
MissGFTB knows the fairground attraction song well, I think I have bored her fur years exploding the singer (Eddie reader ?) is Celtic daft, we had a magic day and when the Bhoys fae the bus cane back the place was jumping, funnily enough nobody cared about Moussas “insurance” penalty we have all saw many worse decisions that actually mattered
Anyway bedtime now, going into work the morra fur a rest daughter & granddaughter have both kept me on my toes the day, cya Wednesday
Cqn good night n god bless
Scott Sinclair hat-trick Wednesday, you read it here first :-)
Explaining the singer is a Celtic fan, definitely not exploding !!!!!
Where’s that Lennybhoy ?
I’ll tell ye
St Bartholomews in ML5, at a HCPT charity night, being entertained by the Wolfe Tones
Not bad for a Mon night
Lucky Bhoy, enjoy D :-)))
!!BADA BING!! on 27TH NOVEMBER 2017 10:49 PM
Can you believe this crap?
SunSport understands the winger won’t face a Notice of Complaint from SFA compliance officer Tony McGlennan.
It’s believed the fact there was contact, albeit minimal, between the players before Sinclair went down has persuaded the authorities there was no dive.
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LOL! There was contact. The referee applied the rules. Huns beelin’!! :-)))
In other news – Grass Is Green, claim scientists….
It’s funny – but not as funny as Keith Lasley’s wife’s Twitter rant…
!BADABING!
No mention of the tackle on Moussa then?
Job done as far as the MSM is concerned. Created the perfect smokescreen
Some load of nonsense on here tonight. Who cares what Lenny or Sutton had to say. It doesn’t mean they are right. For those who have two eyes in their heads, how about using them. I’m positive I saw contact and and everyone else can see it if they look. And that includes our two ex pros
Gerry, the weans running ragged , let’s hop we run Motherwell ragged on Wednesday. .
Mrs Lasley tweeting about Scott being a cheat . She is married to a cheat. Her husband cheated Motherwell out of thousands of pounds pretending he was a football player.
‘Ibrox blow as Everton swoop for Big Sam’
Lolz.
Maybe Adam Matthews Mrs should have taken to Twitter when Lesley ended Adams Celtic career. Never the same player after that “tackle” that we didn’t even get a free kick for.
Just one in a long long line of “decisions “ that went against us/didn’t go for us.
Sinclair was fouled end of. The person that fouled him should not have been on the Park. Murderwell should have been playing with 10 men from the 10th minute and that’s the story that appears to have been lost in the smokescreen that’s been created. (Presumably in an attempt to justify beforehand the carnage that they are going to wreak on Wednesday with the best known religious teacher in a Catholic school officiating).
HH
Lasley ffs iPad and fast finger syndrome
And another thing whilst I’m on a rant the only two analysts worthy of the name in Scotland are Willie Miller and Michael Stewart.
Off to bed.
HH
Brendan needs tae boot the SMSM’s baws.
Only sumdy wi clout will git it done.
Don’t wait tae wi git mibberied….dae it the noo!
But, they wulny so, as usual, Cellic supporters will have to do what they’ve done since, Fergus turned them into customers, suck it up!
Anywye,…..
Git a half decent ch to compliment the, half decent ch’s that are already there and, the Europa League Trophy 2018, could be a possibility.
Oh and, Brendan, buses urny joost fur drivin, ye can park thim as well.
If, MO’N hudny parked the bus, playing on the break, in 2002 / 03, there would have been no Seville.
If, Greece hudny parked the bus in 2004, they wouldn’t have beaten Ronaldo’s Portugal to win the European Championship trophy.
If, Jose hadn’t parked hunners a buses, he widny have four European trophies in his locker.
Jose didn’t play the fabled {Glasgow Celtic Way} which has produced – one – European trophy to date so, ye have to ask, who has got it wrong ?
Idealism only works in an ideal world.
….oot.
Gearoid, the Motherwell left back , Hamell , pushed Adam in the back just as Mr Clean , Lasley , slid in on Adam . Neither Hamell nor Lasley could be bothered showing any concern for Adam’s welfare.
I posted last night about Lasley getting a well deserved clattering by Stokesy a few seasons ago. Lasley was rolling about until the red card was shown then he jumped up. He also prepared to take the resulant free kick.
Lasley in his playing days summed so much of what is wrong with Scottish football.
For all those bed wetters and huns out there, history will record that Celtic won their 103rd trophy at Hampden Park on Sunday 26/11/2017. The scorers were James Forrest and Moussa Dembele (pen) in a 2-0 win.
Live with it :-))
https://lyric.co.uk/shows/plough-and-the-stars/
for any folk down south looking for something to do over the xmas hols
just realised it starts about easter 18
Irony of Lasley being that all he did when he was a player was stick the boot into Celtic players (Naka a favourite) in the name of Hundom. And now that he’s hung up his nasty wee boots he’s got his own nasty wee boot with a twitter account to stick her boot in.
As Confucius put it, ‘Vacuous WAG bint need to STFU.’
I see that Motherwell. did not appeal the red card.
Maybe something to do with the fact that there is evidence that there was contact, he made no attempt at the ball and he was due a red card?
Or am I missing something?
Wee James Forrest scored a cracker.
Celtic easily won 2-0.
Another trophy for trophy room bursting at the seams.
All of the above is true.
So the detractors detract. As the song goes ‘What the hell do we care now’
The Wolfe Tones – Let the People Sing…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gLEN0i9sDo4
HH
What’s the chances of the Mother’s park being frozen on Wednesday?
Maybe they don’t want pumped three times in a week, derailing their second place aspirations!!!
Eurochamps67
NotbeingcynicalintheslightestCSC
Good morning CQN from a cold, damp and breezy East Devon.
Can’t stand Lasley, never could, thug.
Good morning from a very happy Bhoy!
Nae idea what the weather is like as I’ve yet to open the curtains!
In Edinburgh today to finish, yes, finish Christmas shopping!
I’m no usually this organised.
Hope you all have a great day!
C’MON THE CELTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Watching BBC News.
Waiting with baited breath to hear “the United States reaction” to the royal engagement.
Do we pay for this rubbish?
One for all yo Sevco lurkers…….
this is what you got…….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H4vb2LVwA4
Sweet nuthin’
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