Let’s be clear: Dundee are in their best form in years and are more than capable of taking something from Celtic tonight. They also have the incentive of catching Dundee United, who have collapsed since Celtic dismantled them recently. If there is any sort of Hampden hangover, we’ll not win the game.
What I expect is the cup-tied pair of Gary Mackay-Steven and Stuart Armstrong to return to the side and give fresh impetus. I also expect Dundee to suffer the most outrageously unfair refereeing decision seen outside of Hampden in years; proof (cough), if it was needed, that referees don’t only make mistakes against Celtic.
If Leigh Griffiths collides with Scott Brown inside the Dundee box, Celtic will be awarded a penalty. These are our expectations of the Scottish game.
I bear no ill-feeling towards Josh Meekings. He stuck his hand up to stop a ball instinctively. I’ve done the same, a moment later you’re looking at your hand wondering, ‘Why did I do that?’ So I felt the player being suspended was a bit harsh. Then I saw him posing with his ‘trophy’ hand. Stuff him.
My only dispute with the SFA is that their rules allow retrospective action when a referee has not seen an incident. Mr McLean saw everything, but was persuaded not to act.
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Kitalba
The ball is on the penalty spot. The spot has been moved to 6 inches from the goal. The goalie is tied to the post and you are asking how it happened?
Why not start trusting that folk apply their best endeavours, things unexpected happen on the way but all that matters is the result.
I appreciate the very idea that the Board were not trying to block Res12 might be hard for some to grasp but it’s true.
How will come out in the post March analysis.
TimJim
Yes that goes without saying but we are where we are and out of a final and opened a can of worms.
Cheers
Your wrong Paul, if Leigh Griffiths collides with Scott Brown in the box, Griffiths would be booked for diving.
The MIB will do us no favours as there’s a league title at stake
Haven’t read back much since Sunday.
Has anyone mentioned the play leading to Celtic’s red card? Commons with a shocking corner, Matthews (who I thought was one of our quickest players) outpaced and muscled off the ball by ICT player, only Matthews covering back in the first place and Gordon trying to win a 70-30 challenge against him knowing if he mistimed it it would be a penalty!!! That’s a lot of poor decisions by Celtic players!!
I’m struggling with all this chat about ‘if we get a dodgy penalty, we should deliberately put it wide’, and how sad it is for the Caley defender to miss the cup final.
Please, get a grip. I love football the Celtic way and Lisbon was the apogee of that – it is and probably will always be my greatest football memory.
But in a competitve fixture I will take a scrappy 1-0 win against a thrilling 3-2 defeat any day of the week. I want a team of winners on the park, not a team of Corinthians, and I want to see us go for the jugular at every opportunity.
As for the Inverness defender, tough. His arm movement may have been an automatic reaction but he raised his hand towards the ball. He’s had publicity pics taken showing ‘the hand that put Caley in the final’. Their club tweeted live about him being ‘in nets’ and making ‘a great save’. They know they got away with one. It isn’t funny, and I don’t feel sorry for the guy.
And as has been noted elsewhere, if the officials had done their job and given the penalty, he would have been sent off and out of the final anyway.
No sympathy, Celtic. Batter every opponent at every opportunity from now till the end of the season. We can be Mr Nice Guy after we’ve won, but first we need to win.
Looking forward to tonight now.
kitalba
12:07 on
22 April, 2015
Brogan Rogan:
KIT — ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS BELOW IN BOCK CAPITALS:
Please correct me if I’m wrong because like a lot of others I don’t speak ‘lawyer speak’ and I am totally confused as to the status of Resolution 12.
So am I correct in thinking/saying that the Celtic PLC are not actively working on Resolution 12, in fact, Celtic PLC has hung Resolution 12 in the ‘limbo for a very long stay, possibly forever’ closet, because for just whatever reason?
NO YOU ARE COPMPLETELY INCORRECT AND MISINFORMED. THE BOARD OF CELTIC PLC, AND THE COMPANY SECRETARY (WHO GUIDES THE CLUB ON COMPANY LAW AND OTHER LEGAL AND REGULATORY MATTERS) IN PARTICULAR, ARE AND HAVE BEEN WORKING ON RES 12 THROUGHOUT.
THE RESOLUTION HAS NEVER BEEN “HUNG OUT TO DRY” NOR “BEEN IN LIMBO”. IT IS IN A LEGAL POSITION THAT IS FORMALLY RECORDED IN THE RECORDS AND MINUTES OF CELTIC PLC AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN FROM DAY ONE.
Was this a result of the Resolution 12 being withdrawn and by withdrawing it was that – in company law – the end of it?
RES 12 HAS NEVER BEEN WITHDRAWN AND ANY REPORTS THAT IT WAS AT ANY TIME ARE FACTUALLY AND LEGALLY INCORRECT. THE RESOLUTION HAS BEEN ADJOURNED TWICE AT SUCCESSIVE AGM’S. THAT MEANS THAT IT IS STILL LEGALLY AND TECHNICALLY BEFORE THE MEETING OF THE SHAREEHOLDERS AND WILL HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED AGAIN AT THE NEXT MEETING OF SHAREHOLDERS UNLESS WITHDRAWN. IF IT IS NOT WITHDRAWN IT WILL HAVE TO BE VOTED ON.
IN THE INTERIM THE REQUISISTIONERS CAN SEEK TO AMEND THE WORDING OF IT IF CIRCUMSTANCES DICTATE THERE SHOULD BE AN AMENDMENT.
In withdrawing Resolution 12 did that kill it as far as the ‘PLC’ was concerned (legally) or is Resolution 12 a Timmy zombie?
SEE ABOVE IT HAS NEVE BEEN WITHDRAWN AND IT REMAINS A FORMLLY LEGAL MATTER, GOVERNED BY COMPANY LAW AND THE MEMO AND ARTICLES OF THE COMPANY, FOR THE PLC AS A WHOLE AND FOR THE BOARD IN PARTICULAR TO DEAL WITH.
Was Resolution 12 raised again at a following AGM and brought out of ‘limbo’?
AS EXPLAINED ABOVE IT WAS NEVER IN LIMBO AND WAS BEING WORKED ON THROUGHOUT. AT THE 2014 AGM THE REQUISITIONERS FORMALLY REQUESTED THAT IT BE ADJOURNED AGAIN. AGREEMENT WAS REACHED WITH THE BOARD AND THOSE CONTROLLING THE BLOCK VOTE THAT THIS SHOULD BE THE CASE AND A JOINT STATEMENT WAS READ OUT BY THE CHAIRMAN AT THE REQUEST OF THE REQUISITIONERS . THE STATEMENT POINTED TO THE PROGRESS BEING MADE, THE PROFESSIONAL ENQUIRIES, INVESTIGATION AND WORK THAT WAS BEING UNDERTAKEN IN THE NAME OF THE RESOLUTION AND THE WILLINGNESS OF THE BOARD TO SEE THE PROCESS THROUGH.
Is it just a collective of individuals, who are shareholders, acting as the original group of signatories to the resolution as a whole/ or a select few of the original signatories who are pursuing the aims of the withdrawn Resolution 12:
(1) In conjunction with Celtic PLC
(2) Not in conjunction with Celtic PLC
(3) Not in conjunction with Celtic PLC but with the covert assistance and guidance of Celtic PLC
(4) Not in conjunction with Celtic PLC but the board reserve the right to be sleekit and Machiavellian whilst others do all the digging at their expense.
(5) Not in conjunction with Celtic PLC and explicitly against the wishes of Celtic PLC.
THERE ARE A GROUP OF PEOPLE REPRESENTING THE REQUISITIONERS PURSUING THE AIMS OF THE RESOLUTION AND THEY HAVE SECURED THE SERVICES OF PROFESSIONAL ADVISERS INDEPENDENT TO THE BOARD OR ANYONE IN THE SERVICE OR EMPLOY OF CELTIC PLC.
THE BOARD HAVE UNDERTAKEN TO FOLLOW THROUGH THE AIMS AND INTENTIONS OF THE RESOLUTION AND HAVE MET WITH THE SHAREHOLDERS REPRESENTATIVES ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS AND HAVE BEEN MOST HELPFUL IN FINDING A WAY THROUGH TO THE SFA IN TERMS OF MAKING ENQUIRIES, ASKING QUESTIONS, AND ELUCIDATING ANSWERS.
THE BOARD HAVE ENCOURAGED THE SHAREHOLDERS TO FOLLOW THROUGH THEIR ENQUIRIES AND HAVE STATED THEY WILL SUPPORT AND FOLLOW THROUGH ANY INFORMATION BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION OF WHICH THEY WERE UNAWARE OR WHICH HAS A BARING IN THE ISSUES RAISED.
IN PURSUING THIS THE SHAREHOLDERS AND THE BOARD ARE AT ONE.
HOWEVER, THE LEGAL PSOITION IS THAT THE BOARD HAS BEFORE IT A RESOLUTION FROM SHAREHOLDERS THAT SEEKS CERTAIN ENQUIRIES BE MADE BY THE BOARD ON BEHALF OF SHAREHOLDERS AS A WHOLE. AS STATED PREVIOUSLY THE BOARD HAD ORIGINALLY SAID THE RESOLUTION WAS UNECESSARY BECAUSE THE BOARD HAD ALREADY MADE SIMILAR ENQUIRIES – WHICH THEY HAD.
HOWEVER, THERE WERE OTHER ENQUIRIES TO MAKE AND OTHER MATTERS TO EXAMINE WHICH THE RESOLUTION BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BOARD ITSELF. THE BOARD, HAVING EXAMINED SOME OF THIS AT THE TIME, AGREED THAT THOSE ENQUIRIES SHOULD BE SO MADE AND HAVE BEEN KEEN TO SEE THAT THROUGH.
LEGALLY THEY HAVE TO ACT ON BEHALF OF SHAREHOLDERS AND THUS FAR THOSE WHO HAVE REPRESENTED THE REQUISITIONERS HAVE PERSUADED THE HOLDERS OF THE “BLOCK” VOTE TO ABANDON ANY OPPOSITION TO THE STATED AIMS OF RES 12 AND POSSIBLY, JUST POSSIBLY, TO CHANGE STANCE AND SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION FORMALLY.
FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS THEY HAVE BEEN SEEN TO SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION IN PRACTICE IF NOT THROUGH THE FORMAL MINUTES OF THE AGM.
THEY ARE SATISFIED THAT THERE IS A CASE TO PRESENT AND A CASE TO ANSWER. THEY HAVE AN INPUT INTO THAT CASE BUT DO NOT SOLELY OWN ITS DIRECTION OR STRATEGY. THUS FAR THE DIRECTION AND STRATEGY HAVE BEEN AGREED THROUGHOUT.
The Boards Response to Res 12:
The Board is committed to protecting and promoting the interests of the Company, having regard to, among other things, the principles of fairness and sporting integrity.
Having regard to those interests and principles, the Board monitored the developing situation at Rangers Football Club carefully. The Company maintained a consistent position that the circumstances should be considered by the football authorities and the matter dealt with fairly and proportionately. This position was made clear to the football authorities, including the Scottish FA.
NO MATTER HOW CELTIC OR ANYONE ELSE ATTEMPTED TO MONITOR THE SITUATION AT RANGERS AT THE TIME, THERE IS NO POSSIBILITY WHATSOEVER OF HAVING BEEN ABLE TO FULLY KEEP TRACK OF EVENTS INSIDE OR CLOSE TO IBROX IN REAL TIME AND AT THE TIME.
TO THIS DAY THERE ARE KNOWN UNKNOWNS AND SUSPECTED UNKNOWN UNKNOWNS. HOWEVER MUCH MORE IS NOW KNOWN FOR DEFINITE AND FORMS PART OF THE RESOLUTION 12 JOURNEY.
The Company received assurances from the Scottish FA regarding the Club Licensing process for Season 2011/12 at the time. The Board considers that it took appropriate steps to protect the interests of the Company.
NO. THE ASSURANCES AND EXPLANATIONS GIVEN WERE MADE AFTER THE GRANTING OF THE LICENCE IN MARCH 2011. THE BOARD, ACTING ON ITS OWN INITIATIVE, CHALLENGED CERTAIN DECISIONS AND PROCESSES LATER AND WERE GIVEN RESPONSES.
THOSE RESPONSES HAVE SINCE – AND I EMPHASISE THE WORD SINCE – PROVEN UNSATISFACTORY IN LIGHT OF FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF THE THEN FOOTBALL RULES AND INFORMATION THAT HAS COME TO LIGHT AND BEEN BROUGHT TO THE BOARD’S ATTENTION.
THE BOARD’S INITIAL VIEW OF WHAT WAS APPROPRIATE WAS AND HAS BEEN CHANGED BY THE RESOLUTION.
The Board will continue to take steps to protect and promote the interests of the Company. The Company participated in the restructuring of Scottish football and will continue to monitor the development and effectiveness of governance systems.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE THAT CONTINUES TO BE THE CASE.
The Board remains committed to a strategy that promotes and protects the interests of the Company and does not rely on any other club. That stand alone strategy has been successful, as demonstrated by the robust results for the year to June 2013 and encouraging start to the current year.
In the circumstances the Board considers the resolution to be unnecessary and recommends that you vote against it.
The Celtic Trusts response:
Proposal 12 was withdrawn by the proposers, who were not the Celtic Trust, as some out there appear to think. We supported the motion and allowed the proposers to use our experience and expertise to bring it to the table but – we were as surprised as most – of those present when it was withdrawn. It would appear that a deal had been struck to refer this matter to another time and place. We will await further developments but not whilst holding our breath.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE CELTIC TRUST THE “PROPOSAL” WAS NOT WITHDRAWN AND NEVER HAS BEEN AS EXPLAINED ABOVE. PRESUMABLY WHOEVER MADE THAT STATEMENT HAS LEARNED TO HOLD THEIR BREATH AS AT THE NEXT AGM THEY TOO SOUGHT THAT A RESOLUTION BE FORMALLY ADJOURNED AS PRESUMABLY THEY SAW THE LEGAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THE TACTIC.
IF MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY THEY DID INDEED ADJOURN A RESOLUTION.
I think Celtic Supporters, whether they are shareholders or not, whether they are season ticket holders or not, should be allowed to ask valid questions about their own concerns for the future wellbeing of their club and never, ever, talked down to, or be taken for granted, by the PLC, or any agent of the PLC,.
SINCE RESOLUTION 12 WAS TABLED THE SLO HAS BEEN INTRODUCED FOR FANS TO MAKE ENQUIRIES OF IN RELATION TO ANY MATTER.
ANY SHAREHOLDER CAN MAKE AN ENQUIRY OF A BOARD MEMBER, THE BOARD AS A COLLECTIVE, THE COMPANY SECRETARY OR ANY OTHER OFFICER OF THE COMPANY. THOSE RUNNING THE COMPANY SHOULD RESPOND TO ANY SHAREHOLDER ENQUIRY.
I AM NOT SURE THAT AN AGENT OF THE PLC WOULD BE OBLIGED TO ANSWER ANY ENQUIRY WITHOUT PERMISSION AND APPROVAL OF THE BOARD AS AN AGENT IS NORMALLY EMPLOYED AND OWES A DUTY OF CARE TO THE BOARD.
I CERTAINLY AGREE THAT NO ONE MAKING ENQUIRIES OF THE COMPANY OR ANYONE ESLE FOR THAT MATTER SHOULD BE TALKED DOWN TO OR AT.
That would be conducive of the Celtic way.
DON’T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS EVERYTHING OR ANYTHING RIGHT ENOUGH BUT IT IS THE BEST I CAN DO FOR THE MOMENT WITHIN THIS FORUM.
BRTH
Tiny Tim
It was the late Turnbull Hutton of Raith Rovers who Celtic and others were backing as I understand it, and as mentioned before he pulled out for health reasons.
These next 2 games are crucial to us winning the SPL. Saw lots of cars outside the local ludges last night and that worries me.
Bah,
Brogan beat me to it.
It was either Hutton or lucy Beale going from the clues.
We won’t get a dodgy penalty or any other favour from any official in Scotland,unless we are 4 or 5 up at the time.
No sympathy for the Caley player who has been rules out of the Final. I have even less for the one who cheated to get the chance. Again that apology of a ref let him away with it. The MIB should be sine died, imo.
fieldofdrams
13:12 on 22 April, 2015
I’m struggling with all this chat about ‘if we get a dodgy penalty, we should deliberately put it wide’, and how sad it is for the Caley defender to miss the cup final.
Please, get a grip. I love football the Celtic way and Lisbon was the apogee of that – it is and probably will always be my greatest football memory.
But in a competitve fixture I will take a scrappy 1-0 win against a thrilling 3-2 defeat any day of the week. I want a team of winners on the park, not a team of Corinthians, and I want to see us go for the jugular at every opportunity.
As for the Inverness defender, tough. His arm movement may have been an automatic reaction but he raised his hand towards the ball. He’s had publicity pics taken showing ‘the hand that put Caley in the final’. Their club tweeted live about him being ‘in nets’ and making ‘a great save’. They know they got away with one. It isn’t funny, and I don’t feel sorry for the guy.
And as has been noted elsewhere, if the officials had done their job and given the penalty, he would have been sent off and out of the final anyway.
No sympathy, Celtic. Batter every opponent at every opportunity from now till the end of the season. We can be Mr Nice Guy after we’ve won, but first we need to win.
Looking forward to tonight
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You know what mate? Me too.
Get yersel up tae Dundee and gie the team talk.
Onwards and upwards!
HH
Tosh McKinley on radio Scotland at lunchtime….
“It’s a scandal that the boy (Meekings) will miss the final because of incompetent refereeing. because they missed it, he’ll be banned!”
Deary me Tosh.
Gid player though :)
“We won’t get a dodgy penalty or any other favour from any official in Scotland,unless we are 4 or 5 up at the time.”
Pcs,
How many up were we at Tynecastle last year?
If uv recorded the game go to 72.30mins where Mclean gives us advantage then stops play when Brown gets the ball in the clear. To use Andy Walkers words at the time. “THAT IS SHOCKING”!!!!
BRTH
While I see you online, I seem to remember from the past that you had advice on visiting Rome. I am off to Rome on May7th for 4 days and was wondering if you would mind giving me some guidance on how to make the most of the trip
Unfortunately watching the hoops on Sunday May 10th will be impossible as I will be making my way back to the airport…
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Thought of the Day..
Never ask a Lawyer a Question if You are Paying them to Answer You..
001
You pay extra for upper case!!!
HH jamesgang
Siesta time zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
jamesgang
That’s only for a “Capital” offence por cierto
Kit has one hell of a bill coming!
Serves him right :-)
HH
jude2005 is neil lennon \o/
13:42 on 22 April, 2015
Siesta time zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Whenever you say this – and it’s not uncommon – I become extremely jealous.
The Bhoy from the Village
13:35 on
22 April, 2015
Where are you staying?
If you have my e-mail address then drop me a line and I will see you right.
What a city that is.
cheers
BRTH
jude2005-McLean reffed it a la Craig Thomson when on charge of our games,stop the game as much as you can,book an influential player early,.minimal injury time unless it’s ‘required’.Strange that McLean and Thomson are our only full time referees? I’m sure a training room at Hampden was busy in the last few weeks.
Paul67, how do you know McLean saw everything when all we have is a picture of him looking directly at it. For all we know, he could suffer from some sort of temporary blindness or that he can’t keep his eyes opened when he’s listening.
Seriously though he was persuaded by others not to award?
Mickybhoy1888
I read many. I cant be arsed searching them out. Even Yogi pointed it out. Opportunist you as ever
HH
In a recording studio, somewhere in the bowels of Hamdump..
Campbell on the tape deck – “FFS that’s three days we’ve been stuck in here trying to get the timings right. The ootside world will think we are it..”
MIB Mclean – “But we are it! You told us to…”
CO – “SHUT IT YOU, this things recording! Right c’mon brothers one last time, when i point at you Muir, you say “Face, face, it’s hit his face!” Then when i point at you Stevie you say “Did you say it hit his face? So that’s no penalty then?” Once he has says that Alan you seal the deal and say “Aye Steve, it hit his face, no penalty!”
Five minutes later….
CO- “That’s a take, about feckin time anaw. We’ll just say that the other guys mic’s were broken by the Celtic fans fenian chanting and the jobs done. Pity about Meekings, but it was him or youse. Now makes yirselves scarce, Jabbas comin in to pick up the tape for the press!”
itcouldbetruecsc……to be continued
por cierto
;-)
HH jamesgang
BRTH
is the descrepancy between you and Phil Mc G a worry ?
HH
BRTH
Staying at Hotel Mancino 12
Near Palazzo Guglielmi and the Piazza Venezia.
I just sent you my email address on Linkedin
paul67
can i suggest an improvement to the site
in your ‘new article posted’ post, can you put in a hyperlink to the new article that’s been posted
it will make things easier for me on my phone
and will make you look pure dead clever, man
thanks!
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Does Anyone know if Celtic FC have sent a Letter to the Governor General of Australia to find out Why the SFA schedule games at 3pm on a Saturday that collide with TV Shopping at 2am in Australia..?
001
Awe Naw?
Naw! Not in the slightest.
The Bhoy from the Village
13:56 on
22 April, 2015
Good Spot.
Ok I will get that and get back to you.
After BRTH response to Kitalba earlier and to all those that abused the resolutioners and Canamalar in particular.You all need to take a long hard look at yourselves. That’s of course if there isn’t too many words in it for you.
HH
Sunning myself in the Costas..anyone know if the game is on Celtic TV or any other station?
Kikinthenakas
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Last Night I was Watching a Documentary about ‘Hillsong’ a Church in Australia a Multi Billion industry that basically tells Parishioners what the want to hear
while asking for their Credit Card or Percentage of their Salary (10%)..?
Then I read a Article from Phil Mac.. Stating a Good Source (This covers the Out Rite Lie allegations) said Celtic FC have sent a Letter to UEFA Re; Res 12.. I called him out a Couple of Years ago so have Not read many of His Articles since..
In the Shortest Article I have ever Read from Him.. With the Words Developing Story at the End..
Followed by..
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Jeezo
Touch the Screen
001
Awe naw-Spot on.
Haven’t had to register with any mountain authority before to ascend any Scottish hill