Handling our history well

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We’ve talked about the big changes needed at the end of the season for a while now, specifically in terms of the manager’s position. I was never in favour of firing Ronny midseason. By that stage the die was cast for European football, and we were nip and tuck with Aberdeen in a fight for the league.

My guess was that Ronny could deliver the league, and I expected a cup or two as well. The cups have gone – and may have been won had we changed manager months ago, but we could also have appointed the wrong caretaker (a high probability) and reduced our title prospects. The decision then was what was the greater risk to the league title. All other things being equal, sitting tight was most probably going to deliver the league.

We’re now three wins from becoming champions. Ronny is one of only two Celtic managers never to have lost a league title, and whatever disappointments there have been, he’s applied himself honestly and openly. He’s also a title winning part of our history and we need to handle our history well, even as a project concludes.  Lessons from ’78 still rankle with some.

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  1. TD

     

    Your lies won’t wear.

     

    You were against it from the onset, you were delighted when it’ was kicked into the long grass.

     

    Yip, I’m a daftie alright

  2. PeterLatchfordsBelly on

    I’m not inclined to remember Ronny Dire kindly. A disaster of a manager. Couldn’t win a single pressure game. A total bottle merchant with zero tactical nous. An utter haddy.

     

     

    Nice guy though.

  3. TET

     

     

    Was never against it, you’d like to think I was or make others think I was,why? Only you know that, and I have my ideas about that, but with out any proof, and you’ll never find any, you blowing it out your arse, that’s about the best metaphor I can give you, and I cleaned it up.

  4. CultsBhoy can not relate to Celtic Board ambitions on or off the park on

    BSR

     

     

    I agree having opted not to dispense with Ronny earlier in the season (December) then we had to stick with him to the end of the season. Nobody however in reaching that decision could have factored in the humiliation of a Hunco defeat…?

     

     

    Not sure if its a big enough humiliation to warrant a knee jerk, fit of pique decision to give him the immediate punt.

     

     

    My reckoning is AFC will lose at least 1 of the run in games so we probably just need to beat them and get a draw so the high probability is Ronny will see us over the line.

     

     

    I further suspect if there was anyone lined up ready to step in the decision may still have been taken.

     

     

    My guess is that Lenny will be brought in on a rolling contract. Probably to punt season books but with a mind to finding a longer term solution. I’d be happy to hae him long term.

     

     

    DD needs to devise a new structure that sees football and business under seperate reporting arrangements.

     

     

    I think Ronny has been out of his depth from day one and has been lumbered with players he didn’t want, co coaches he didn’t chose and probably his niavety has been taken advantage of.

     

     

    I wish him well.

  5. onenightinlisbon on

    Ronny will never go down as one of our greats, that’s for sure. I don’t go along with the “feeling sorry” brigade. He knew what he was taking on and was paid handsomely for it. He failed and like others above him should pay the price.

  6. squire danaher on

    People come on here in a safe environment and express real concern that a man, who could not motivate/inspire his team to win ANY must win game in the past 2 years, is being entrusted to drag the club to the title.

     

     

    It turns out he’s now an even bigger lame duck as he’s being binned in the summer instead of right now.

     

     

    So players who haven’t done him a turn in 2 years are going to start bursting a gut for him NOW?

     

     

    And to crown it all, Donnelly thinks that me saying this makes me a Hun dafty??

  7. Chris Coleman might be a guy that could do a job for us,

     

     

    Got a fair bit of experience and his contract with Wales is running down

     

     

    HH

  8. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    YNOT67

     

     

    You are an imposter.

     

    You were totally against Res 12….and were never done slagging the guys responsible.

     

    Now you are trying to tell us you supported Res 12 all along…..Aye Right.

     

    You tried every dirty wee trick in the book to de-rail it.

     

    You should be ashamed of yourself

  9. eddieinkirkmichael on

    I can understand young players from 3rd rate leagues coming to Scotland to play for the champions with the prospect of CL football and putting themselves in the shop window. We also play in a 3rd rate league and for some of those who join us from the likes of Holland eg a move to Celtic represents a step down but as I said we have a history of moving on new recruits once they have established themselves in our team, so young players are willing to take a chance on us.

     

     

    But what incentive is there for any decent manager to come here? A club who if rumour is to be believed will sack a manager after he has won the league. A club with delusional fans that think because we beat Barcelona a few ago should be regular qualifiers from the group stage of the CL. Posters say they only want to qualify for group stages but get fecking real, you all know that once we get there a majority of posters will be telling us how shite the opposition are and we should easily qualify in second place.

     

    As well as a good run in Europe any new manager will now be expected to win the treble every year because we all know that we have the biggest squad, pay the highest wages and all the other clubs are just wee diddy teams who really shouldn’t be on the same pitch with our team of world beaters.

     

    Oh and just to make sure we do well in Europe the manager has recruit some £10m players but only pay between £2.5m-£3m because that’s all our finances dictate we can afford.

     

    Oh and never forget a new manager has to play the Celtic way, dazzling displays every week with us scoring 6-7 goals every game.

     

     

    This season, football wise hasn’t been great but we learnt a good few things about not only the team and the players but the fans too. Frankly an element within the support let the team down just as much as the team let us down.

  10. I still think we have a good manager in Ronnie. I would love him as assistant or director of football at Celtic.

     

    Celtic need to overhaul the playing staff not the management in my opinion.

     

     

    Hail Hail.

  11. onenightinlisbon on

    “This season, football wise hasn’t been great”

     

     

    An understatement if ever there was one and just this season?

  12. Delaneys Dunky on

    SD

     

     

    I cannot think of one manager who has performed well, whilst serving his notice at a club. If Ronny has been dismissed??? He should be removed with immediate effect.

  13. I don’t care what the name of our next manager is. I don’t care what nationality is. I don’t care what religion he is. I don’t care what colour of skin he is. I don’t even care if it is a woman. None of that bothers me. What bothers me is who is pulling Peter Lawwel’s strings and why if he is such the Celtic man he purports to be, why has he not resigned over the shambolic events and silences of the past four years.

     

     

    Thank god my father is in his grave, what Celtic have achieved and their sell out of morals and ethics as witnessed – unequivocally – over the past four years is nothing less than a desecration of the history of Celtic Football Club that great men and women suffered and sacrificed to build into a global respect. The present incumbents in office at Celtic Park have pissed on the graves of every, and I mean every Celtic supporter who loved and gifted the club their love the whole of their lives. They built and mortgaged and paid off that mortgage and left us a beacon of right and beauty.

     

     

    And those in office today have made it a global laughing stock.

     

     

    Peter Lawwell is a patsy. A well paid pasty and a traitor to morals and ethics as we boast them, bloated and boasted them.

     

     

    My fathers love of Celtic died the day he died. His sons’ love of Celtic was murdered by silence.

     

     

    The silence of the corruption.

     

     

    The silence of the corruption.

     

     

    Corruption, nothing less… corruption.

     

     

    I love the history, I love what my father and all those before me loved, I despise what I see in front of me today.

     

     

    DESPISE with all my aching heart.

     

     

    Sack Ronny, that’ll buy us a wee bit of time.

     

     

    Buy who what wee bit of time to do what?

     

     

    I never watched the game on Sunday. I did not need Sunday to knee-jerk Ronnie’s demise.

     

     

    I said when he got the job it was a disgrace and he was a patsy.

     

     

    He was a patsy. For who? For what?

     

     

    Please God please, not the sectarian pound. Please never that. Not with our history and pain.

  14. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    PLB. 101

     

     

    I think RD is right to point that out,though I’d have more respect for him had he done so earlier.

     

     

    Mibbe he was warned against it,who knows?

     

     

    Either way,it is an indictment on the hiring policy that he wasn’t forewarned and therefore prepared for the onslaught.

     

     

    Just another example of hanging the fella out to dry,IMO.

  15. As for Davy Moyes,being the next manager of Celtic,I have this to say,if you can’t hack it at Man Utd,or in Spain,what chance of being a success in Scotland with Celtic, as far as I’m concerned, if Lennon is made manager ,I will not renew ,I just dont like the man,

  16. TET

     

     

    One thing you don’t need help on is spin, I don’t remember calling you a daftie, but the again let a wait four months down the road as you normaly do and accuse me of it, reality? On a blog? Ffs I’v heard it all now, my sides are away again.

  17. KITALBA on 19TH APRIL 2016 1:30 PM

     

     

    Do you expect DD to give his shareholding away? That’s only way he can resign – if he has no buyer. Can we be sure he wouldn’t give them to somebody without his means to bail us out if it all got critical (although we have no real proof DD would either to be fair)?

     

     

    It’s an issue.

  18. And now as I lie here, my body all holes

     

    I think of those traitors who bargained in souls

     

    And I wish that my rifle had given the same

     

    To those Quislings who sold out the patriot game.

  19. VESPACIDE on 19TH APRIL 2016 1:29 PM

     

    I still think we have a good manager in Ronnie. I would love him as assistant or director of football at Celtic.

     

     

    Please could you enlighten me on what you base this statement on.

  20. I’m a bit confused by the people touting WGS and NL for the non-existent managerial vacancy at Celtic Park.

     

     

    Many on this blog spent the best part of 4 years whining about WGS when he was at the helm, complaining that his team didn’t play “the Celtic way”, was boring to watch, adopted a Wattenaccio approach in Europe and, lest they forget, lost 0-5 to Artmedia Bratislava.

     

     

    When the dissenters finally got their way WGS was replaced with Tony Mowbray, a “true Celtic mhan who understands the club and the expectations of the support, etc., etc.”. Look how that turned out!

     

     

    Then we saw the emergency appointment of NL, a complete (management) rookie, and it wasn’t too far into his tenure before he had his own band of perpetual malcontents, again constantly whining about the style of play and frequent “shock” cup defeats (0-2 v second tier Ross County, 0-1 v Morton, 1-2 v Aberdeen, 0-1 v Kilmarnock, 1-2 v Hearts, 2-3 v St Mirren).

     

     

    NL presided over some significant European results, with a famous win over Barcelona. But he also had several negatives in European competition, such as a 0-3 defeat v Braga in the CL qualifiers, swiftly followed by a 0-4 v Utrecht in the UL qualifiers. The following season saw FC Sion further embarras Celtic in European competition, before an administrative blunder saw UEFA intervene to put Celtic through. His team also endured a CL group phase with just one win, culminating with a 1-6 humiliation by the aforementioned Barcelona.

     

     

    Ronny’s record isn’t actually significantly different than that of two of names being touted to replace him!

     

     

    So, I guess the message is, be careful what you wish for.

  21. BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

     

     

    I’d agree he was hung out to dry.

     

     

    He has let himself down big time on several occasions and as the manager of the team he has to carry the can for poor performances. Better and stronger management is needed, and that needs to come from a replacement manager.

     

     

    HOWEVER, he arrived hamstrung by a back room team chosen for him, players who didn’t try a leg for him (i know, I know, he should have dropped them and that is his fault), a recruitment strategy that preceded him and will survive him, and most crucially was never afforded any sort of protection by the club. He took all the abuse while others hid.

     

     

    The time came to change the manager, no doubt about that. But he should not be the last one to go.

  22. glendalystonsils on

    One man’s meat is another man’s poison as far as managers go. No one can foretell whether a manager will be successful or not. All we can do is look for certain key qualities…..strong man manager/leader, good tactician, good judge of a player (without favouritism). Even then it’s a gamble.

  23. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    YNOT67

     

     

    You are a lump of wid.

     

    Im not going to even bother with you.

     

    You are in serious need of an exorcism, you are possessed by demons.

     

    I remember the late John Mills playing the fool in Ryan’s Daughter….but honestly, he had feck all on you

  24. Anyway

     

    My source tells me that DD read the riot act on Sunday afternoon, and has given his shares to his son,? Let’s see what happens.

  25. Welcome back the OLD FIRM!!! Same as it always was for our fans in this case nearly fatal

     

     

     

    Police hunt blade thug in Rangers top after Celtic fan is stabbed in face following Scottish Cup tie

     

     

    THE victim, named locally as Andrew Lochrie was stabbed five times in the face, neck and chest during the frenzied attack which took place just after Sunday’s Old Firm showdown.

     

     

     

    The attack took place on Westburn Avenue in Paisley

     

    A FOOTBALL fan was stabbed five times and left for dead in the street in a frenzied murder bid.

     

     

    The 40-year-old victim – named locally as Andrew Lochrie – was wearing a Celtic t-shirt, and it’s understood his attacker had a Rangers top on at the time of the attack.

     

     

    Families in Westburn Avenue, in Paisley, said they heard men shouting about the result of a cup match between the two clubs – which had just finished – before the attack took place on Sunday afternoon.

     

     

    Mr Lochrie was stabbed in the face, chest and leg in the knife attack, which police are treating as an attempted murder.

     

     

    One stab wound was so severe it punctured a hole through his cheek.

     

     

    Mr Lochrie was left lying unconscious and soaked in blood in the street as paramedics raced to the scene.

     

     

    A shocked neighbour told the Paisley Daily Express: “The two guys had been shouting about the Rangers and Celtic game before the attack took place.

     

     

    “The Celtic supporter was stabbed multiple times, in the leg, body and even his face and was unconscious by the time a paramedic got to him.

     

     

    “He was left out cold and covered in blood, it was horrific.”

     

     

    Police in Paisley, who revealed that they are following a positive line of enquiry, last night revealed that they were investigating whether or not the murder bid was football-related.

     

     

    Rangers won the traditionally tense derby on Sunday, now police are trying to find out if the incident was football-related.

     

    A Police Scotland spokeswoman said: “At around 2.55pm on Sunday, emergency services responded to reports of a 40-year-old man having been seriously assaulted in Westburn Avenue, Paisley.

     

     

    “The injured man was taken to the Royal Alexandra Hospital, in Paisley, and then transferred to the Queen Elizabeth University Hospital, in Glasgow, where he is currently being treated for his injuries

     

     

    “Hospital staff describe his condition as stable.”

     

     

    She added; “Police are following a positive line of enquiry.”

  26. weeminger:

     

     

    I did not expect anything from anybody, ever.

     

     

    Look back on the share issues.

     

     

    It might not be DD pulling the strings but I hope to God that Celtic put the trust of generations of suffered souls into the hands of one man and gave him licence to write his own bonus cheques.

     

     

    The huns did the dirty on Scottish football.

     

     

    The SFA did the dirty on Scottish football.

     

     

    I pray my God that Celtic did not do the dirty on the Celtic Support but my bleeding bended knees and bleeding torn heart’s prayers’, meet nothing but an immoral and unethical wall of corporate silence.

     

     

    They don’t need me. I don’t need them. How sacred our history. Our scared our history’s sons’ and daughters’ sacrifices’. How flippantly squandered was their souls’ true love.

     

     

    Rhetoric or reality?

  27. The green man

     

     

    I remember the late John Mills playing the fool in Ryan’s Daughter….but honestly, he had feck all on you

     

     

    Rumour has it you beat him by a short head for the part, but you couldent remember the lines? So he got it?

  28. …well, at least everyone’s got a handle on reality and a very clear-headed sense of perspective and are able to express themselves cogently….

     

     

    …….naw?

  29. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    DAVIDOPOULOS

     

     

    Aye,mate. PL recruitment strategy seems to be-

     

     

    if he succeeds,ya beauty!

     

     

    If he fails,so what. There’s another one round the corner.

     

     

    Trebles all round in the boardroom,f… the trophy room.

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