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I’m sure Ronny Deila is delighted to have the backing of John Harton, now he doesn’t need it.  John’s attachment to the club is not in doubt, nor should a new manager want unquestioning support from anyone, but some clubs reach a point when they become unmanageable.  Influential voices collaborate with perma-upset media and fans to expose shoots of recovery to a winter frost.

The mea culpa, when it arrives, is often too late.

Save us from the click bait that is suggesting Craig Gordon is a ‘target’ for some or other English club.  Derk Boerrigter is interesting Real Madrid, honest, they’ve been watching him with the Development Squad.

I’ve been waiting for weeks on someone to ask the question: if a club accepts money on the condition that the lender has the right to appoint two directors, in the event the club removes those directors, do you reckon that would be a breach of the terms of the loan?

I’d be extremely worried if a well-intentioned, but nonetheless, baying mob chased away the last independent director of my club.  Many Germans celebrated the Armistice, thinking a conclusion to hostilities had been agreed.  Months later they learned the terms left them bereft of land, defensive capabilities, capital equipment, authority and self-respect.  What seemed like an end to the trauma only set in motion far greater horrors.

Our good friends at Magners have offered two premium seat tickets for tomorrow’s game at Celtic Park.  To win, email me the name of the team we’re playing at celticquicknews@gmail.com

Competition closes at 5pm tonight.  If you would like to help build a school kitchen for 909 hungry kids for Mary’s Meals in Malawi while entering the competition, you can donate £1 here.  Thank you.

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  1. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

     

    11:42 on

     

    3 March, 2015

     

    67 HEAVEN

     

     

    I kid you not,I genuinely do not recall meeting a single Celtic supporter who wants them back.

     

     

    *******

     

    ….except for the 25k+ at the LC semi!

  2. The Johnatron on

    Bhoylo83

     

    12:43 on

     

    3 March, 2015

     

    Disagree on Hartson

     

     

    IMO he always speaks highly of Celtic when I have seen him on the tele

     

     

    Maybe he genuinely didnt think Ronny was up to the job

     

     

    ++++++++++++

     

     

    I agree. I reckon at the time BBJ first stated his opinion on Ronny, a fair percentage of Celtic fans were of the same opinion about with the way things were progressing, and would therefore be feeling the same as him. Simply because he is in the public eye, and he stated his opinion in public he is somehow pushing an anti-Celtic agenda? Absolute Tosh. I think we all know, if you have ever bothered to find out about the man, that he is now a Celt for life. No harm in stating your opinion, if at the time you believe you are correct. Being the man that he is, he has now come out to say he was wrong. Takes a bigger man to do that. Well done BBJ and good health to you Sir!

     

     

    HH

  3. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    TIME magazine isn’t always the right-wing mag many think it is.

     

     

    Long c&p and I apologise for it. No apologies for the points it raises.

     

     

     

    The Real Meaning of $9 an Hour

     

    Rana Foroohar @RanaForoohar

     

     

    Feb. 26, 2015 SHARE

     

    Walmart’s decision on Feb. 19 to raise its base wage to $9 an hour, $1.75 higher than the federal minimum, has been heralded as a major victory for American labor. Wall Street punished the world’s largest retailer for the pay hike–which will cost the firm $1 billion this fiscal year–by driving down its shares. But labor economists and liberals lauded the raise as a new wave of “Fordism,” referring to Henry Ford’s historic 1914 decision to double wages in his factories, which not only boosted productivity and reduced turnover but also created more customers for his company’s products.

     

     

    Walmart’s move is seen by some as a sea change for the retail sector. “Walmart sets the standard, and the fact that they’ve kept wages so low has made it hard for others to raise them,” explains Isabel Sawhill, co-director of the Center on Children and Families at the Brookings Institution. Now it’s likely that pay for other low-income workers will rise, not just in retail but also in other sectors like home health care, child care and fast food, all of which compete for the same workers as Walmart.

     

     

    The question is, how much will it matter? Labor’s share of the economic pie has been decreasing since the 1970s, thanks to globalization, which has outsourced low-wage jobs (and technology, which has destroyed them outright); the shrinking of unions; and pressure from Wall Street to reduce costs, which turbocharged all these trends. The corporate share, meanwhile, is at record highs. That means Walmart’s move to $9 an hour won’t make much difference in macroeconomic terms. The $1 billion it will effectively put in the hands of 40% of its 1.3 million U.S. employees is a tiny fraction of our $16 trillion economy. Damon Silvers, the policy director of the AFL-CIO, estimates that even if all low-wage employers followed Walmart’s lead, it wouldn’t move the needle on labor’s share by even a single percentage point. “That’s not to say that the Walmart workers’ victory isn’t an important step forward for low-wage workers,” he says. “But it also shows what a small piece of the pie they’ve been getting.”

     

     

     

    Indeed, the Walmart workers who have spent much of the past year in parking lots with bullhorns were asking for $15 an hour and better schedules. “When I started, I saw how many of us were working for one of the richest companies in the world and yet we had to be on public assistance,” says Kelly Sallee, 22, who has worked for Walmart for eight months and took part in wage protests in Dayton, Ohio. Despite the pay increase, employees like Sallee, who says she’d like to work full time but can’t get enough hours, are still struggling for improvements in scheduling, an important labor-rights issue. Retailers across the country use software to optimize scheduling around store traffic. This often means less notice given for when workers must report to their jobs and erratic cuts in some of their hours, which labor activists believe may also be intended to decrease the number of workers on full-time benefits. Walmart denies this and says it would prefer more full-time workers to multiple part-timers. The company also says that the $9 it will pay is better than the $7 and change paid by many other retailers, even some unionized ones, and that it gives more notice of shift changes than many others. It says that workers can ask for more hours via Walmart’s intranet system and that 1 million hours a week regularly go unclaimed.

     

     

     

    But the fact that Walmart workers, who aren’t unionized in the U.S., got anything at all shows the PR pressure that companies like it are coming under as economic inequality gains clout as a political issue. Twenty-nine states have raised the minimum wage, and presidential candidates from both parties are expected to wrestle with the challenge for the next 18 months. Whether or not Walmart’s top brass, a conservative bunch, has experienced an ideological shift is not the point. That it is concerned about turnover costs as a better economy gives laborers more options for where to work is most significant.

     

     

    An extra couple bucks an hour will certainly help low-wage workers, and they’ll be more likely to spend it than the rich, meaning it will drive more economic growth. It will not be a net job destroyer, as some believe. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office found that while a $9 minimum wage could put from zero to 500,000 low-end jobs at risk as companies try to limit staffing, it would also lift 1 million people out of poverty and increase earnings for 16.5 million workers. As Sawhill puts it, “That’s not quite a free lunch, but it’s pretty cheap.” That’s a reason for Congress to raise the federal minimum wage. But even if it doesn’t, Walmart workers have proved they can move the most powerful retailer in the world to change. That means they, and others, can do it again. And that, more than anything else, may be the real victory

  4. BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

     

    12:37 on

     

    3 March, 2015

     

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    I owe everything I have made of my life to the Labour movement. I learned my politics from my Uncle Tam Craig (JP), a self educated Lanarkshire coal miner who lived to help folk.

     

    I was in awe of him and his fellow miners who walked from Law to the Forth to work 12 hour days in the pits, some of whom also went to Spain to fight Franco, their grasp of politics and general knowledge was impressive to this adolescent.

     

     

    I was in the very first year of comprehensive education. I don’t know if i’d have passed the 11 plus to get me to Our Ladies in Motherwell but I definately know that the 5 ‘o’ levels that I did have the chance to get (and did) was the first rung on the ladder to a MUCH better life.

     

     

    Much is said to slate Tony Blair but he paved the way which allowed my people access to levels of education previously reserved for those who could buy it. 4% to 40%.

     

     

    We do stuff as a party badly too but generally we do stuff to help people who need it. If you don’t like something you fight to change it.

     

     

    Nationalism is a bad thing, devisive, myopic, insular, greedy, self serving, apart from that it’s just wrong.

  5. Kevjungle

     

     

    I saw the post-match interview with Jose M in which he was asked to name his man of the match.

     

     

    His highly original answer named players who had played a crucial role in the rounds leading up to the final but who had, unfortunately, been left out of the final itself, not anyone who had played in the game. They didn’t need any more bigging -up.

     

     

    Man-management par excellence.

  6. leftclicktic on

    Well done to Sannabhoys youngster Caoilfhinn his 27 friends for volunteering to help out with the Lourdes trip.

  7. It is my belief that midway through last season PL called NFL in to the office.

     

     

    He told him that the football side needed a change of direction. he wanted players developed and a new attacking style adopted – crowds dwindling , dissatisfaction with the product on the park etc.

     

     

    I think also that PL wanted NFL to buy into the new approach. PL believed that changes would have to be made within the coaching structure and told NFL that Johan Mjalby would not be offered a new contract and that they had a new guy lined up as his assistant.

     

     

    NFL got the chance to be part of the change.

     

     

    I think that, not without good reason, NFL felt undermined and felt that he was doing the dirty on his mate. He had a think about it and he decided to leave.

     

     

    He didn’t mouth off publicly but I suspect he wasn’t best pleased.

     

     

    His other mates Sutton and Hartson probably felt that Celtic had done the dirty on him and made a conscious decision to undermine the stranger in town with all the new fangled ideas, what was up with the old way after all? The new guy came in and it looked like we had the new Paul Le Guen in place and they believed that they had chosen the right side. They ramped it up.

     

     

    A few months later there’s been a massive turnaround and everyone can see that the changes were for the good and we have improved the product and are still likely to see more improvement. Still not saying RD is a genius here..

     

     

    Anyway Sutton and Hartson can see with their own eyes that they were wrong and they think that they can say sorry and everything in the garden will be rosey.

     

     

    The problem was – it wasn’t an honest mistake. It was an agenda to make Celtic FC look like fools for appointing a clown in place of their mate. it wasn’t done without malice and that’s what’s unforgiveable.

     

     

    Hartson and Sutton both great players in the hoops but they sold the jerseys

  8. Alfie Noakes on

    The media employ ex-Celtic players, because any criticism they deliver, and they MUST deliver to stay in their job, is MUCH more powerful than say an ex-Rangers man having a go at Celtic.

     

     

    They know that when the likes of Nicholas, Provan, Walker, Sutton and Hartson, attack Celtic, it is like a ‘dagger in the heart’ to the Celtic support.

     

     

    Has anyone ever heard an ex-Rangers player, even during this farce to end all farces, be as bitingly critical to their own as some of the above pundits?

     

     

    The commentators and journalists are emboldened in their anti-Celtic rhetoric by these people – their justification being – “well if ——— said it, and he’s one of your own, it must be right!!!

  9. fanadpatriot on

    winning captains

     

    You mean the one our super scouts missed,playing on our doorstep.

  10. Well said John Hartson.The only thing he said which is the whole point of the argument about RD,I find ridiculous,was at the start his results were poor.

     

    A new foreign manager,does not know his players,training regimes,his assistants,seperated from his family,living in a hotel.He has a host of different playing philosophies,training,diet.Has no idea what players are good enough,or willing enough to accept his style or ideas.There are probably other mitigating circumstances,but surely with the ones mentioned it was not too much to give the guy time before slaughtering him in the media like Hartson and Sutton did.

     

    I dont know anybody that is crowing about knowing RD was going to be a great manager.No one knew.What many were prepared to do was GIVE HIM TIME.

     

    Thank God it happened.

  11. Alfie Noakes on

    charliemac

     

    13:10 on

     

    3 March, 2015

     

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    First class analysis – even though it may be pure speculation – is it?

  12. Jamabhoy

     

    “Professional football players intelligence”

     

    This is where you might come unstuck.

     

    It feels sometimes that there may be more intelligence in apack of barking dogs

     

    Pet hate during a match.

     

    After a nasty challenge and no foul you will always get some ex pro tell us “The ref had a good view of that.”

     

  13. fanadpatriot

     

     

    Celtic scouting system seems to be these days pretty effective at that level and younger. It is very professional and every player is known and rated. At the very young end for instance the current St Mirren captain’s boy is regarded as among the best in Scotland at his age. At the older level the Aberdeen player has been identified as a real talent. Think the boy was out for a while with a injury.

  14. Bawsman

     

    13:05 on

     

    3 March, 2015

     

     

    I owe everything I have made of my life to the Labour movement.

     

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    Yes, many of us do but that is not to say that our ascendants will not be able to declare the same of a Labour movement in an independent Scotland.

  15. FAVOURITE UNCLE on

    Kano , Pablo , Celticlover , StJohnDoyle – CQN in heaven must be mental

     

     

     

    last tenner sent.tell him to remember me and family at LOURDES.

  16. Scanned the newspaper headlines in Tesco at lunchtime.

     

     

    Tragic puns already started as the hacks lube-up for Dave King’s arrival – ‘The King and I-brox’ being todays biggest facepalm.

     

     

    Yuo could really give the lurking Huns wi’ laptops theior own headline generator on here; Here you are, ya lazy scribblers – just insert ‘King’ for the asterisks –

     

     

    ‘Return Of The ****’

     

     

    ‘God Save The ****’

     

     

    ‘Long Live The ****’

     

     

    ‘**** Of The Hill’

     

     

    And a speacial Sandman gift to you hacks for approx 6 months time when it all goes tetas to the sky again:

     

     

    ‘FU-**** HELL!’

  17. the long wait is over on

    Just occurred to me –

     

     

    Has anyone ever seen WITS and John Hartson in the same room..?

     

     

     

    NotThatIKnowWhatWITSLooksLikeCSC

  18. West End of East End on

    On Hartson & Sutton, I think that BBJ was calling it as he was seeing it at the time, the team were playing poorly and he blamed the new manager. Sutton’s was more vindictive and personal, it came across that he just didn’t like Ronny. I was surprised with him at the start of the Milan away game where he genuinely looked pleased and wondered why the change.

     

     

    Sutton is usually track side in front of me during the Euro games and spends ages having photo’s taken, signing autographs but I think at the last one he got a few home truths as well…

  19. The Battered Bunnet on

    What’s all this about “the continued presence of Roy Keane at Celtic Park- Hmmmm!”?

  20. Alfie Noakes

     

     

     

     

    13:13 on

     

     

    3 March, 2015

     

     

     

     

    charliemac

     

    13:10 on

     

    3 March, 2015

     

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    First class analysis – even though it may be pure speculation – is it?

     

     

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    100%

  21. fanadpatriot on

    winning captains

     

    If we want the Aberdeen lad it will cost us,he just signed a new contract until summer of 2017.By that time he will be a regular scoring goals,then the English clubs will be all over him.

     

    I also think in most Development games our squad will have a older element playing than most.Some teams have 15/16 years old playing.I am not convince our scouting system is the best.IMHO

  22. !!Bada Bing!! on

    thomthethim for oscar ok

     

     

    12:58 on 3 March, 2015BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS11:42 on3 March, 201567 HEAVENI kid you not,I genuinely do not recall meeting a single Celtic supporter who wants them back.*******….except for the 25k+ at the LC semi!

     

     

    I don’t want them back either,but i reserve my right of going to support my team.HH

  23. At one stage it looked like Ronny wasn’t up to it and now it looks like he’s more than up to it and fans are happy.

     

     

    My question is…is Ronny happy? Hopefully he is and will stay to see the revolution continue.

  24. TheOriginalSadiesBhoy on

    fanadpatriot

     

     

    13:24 on 3 March, 2015

     

    winning captains

     

    If we want the Aberdeen lad it will cost us,he just signed a new contract until summer of 2017.By that time he will be a regular scoring goals,then the English clubs will be all over him.

     

    I also think in most Development games our squad will have a older element playing than most.Some teams have 15/16 years old playing.I am not convince our scouting system is the best.IMHO

     

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    Who is the Aberdeen lad?

  25. Allyhuntersgloves on

    Bawsman, which nationalism is it that is so wicked?

     

     

    Scottish Nationalism like the SNP pushed at the referendum or

     

     

    UK Nationalism that Labour did?

     

     

    Like many on here, left the labour party the day they abandoned the working classes to win over Tory voters, now only 3 socialist parties left in Scotland and Labour under Murphy certainly isn’t one of them. Tory’s with red ties on.

  26. Alfie Noakes on

    ger57

     

    13:16 on

     

    3 March, 2015

     

    BMCUWP & Chairbhoy

     

     

    No doubt about it; the Labour Party has legislated for social and economic change, most of it to the benefit of the most needy in our society. Indeed, Harold Wilson’s Govt from 1964-70 saw the greatest transfer of wealth from the rich to the poor in history. The power of the Labour Party derived from the Trades Unions. Why do you think the Tories bang on about it so much, even now when the Unions are emasculated?

     

    In the 1970s there were over 400,000 card carrying, subs paying members; plus affilliated TU members paying the political levy. We had clout, open debate, proper non stage managed conferences. Then the Alfie Noakes/Jim Murphys/ Tony Blairs infiltrated. They blamed the proper socialists for electoral defeat and allowed the Sun, yes the Sun, to set the agenda.

     

    They thought just get power and change will come. Aye right!

     

    There is no Labour Party on the ground. No canvassers. Sorry, Bawsman, the LP is a totally busted flush. Solution to economy; let banks decide everything. A Labour Chancellor?? WTF??

     

    Imagine Harold Wilson agreeing to war in Iraq based on lies? Not a chance. Not one British soldier went to Vietnam.

     

    The Labour party needs Socialists, not apologists for globalisation. Every company needs PEOPLE to operate, maintain their computers. They need educated workers. Mobilise these and other vital workers. The banks need us more than e need them. That’s the message a socialist party should send. No, we have the Alfies with their noses in the expenses trough telling us that socialism is impractical.

     

    And he has the effrontery to come on here and lecture me. Aye right, diddy!

     

     

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    I take you to task only on one point in your post, although I could challenge everything you say.

     

     

    “The banks need us more than we need them”

     

     

    Like the broadband companies need us to work for them – they have shipped all their customer services posts offshore to India and the like – there are four billion people in the undeveloped world desperate for work and will to do it for much less than us.

     

     

    Pure socialism is dead, like it or not – as I said the next big challenge, and it will fall to the Labour party to take it on – is to ensure that the ordinary ‘man/woman in the street gets a fairer and bigger share of the wealth we generate.

  27. Thomthethim

     

     

    I know scores of Celtic who attended the LC final. Not a single one of them feels the way you suggested. To suggest so is a sweeping generalisation and wholly inaccurate.

  28. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    If charliemac is correct that Lennie was told by Lawwell that he wanted a change in the style of football Celtic played and that Mjalbys contract would not be renewed if Lennie did not agree with big Peter he I am sure would have argued his corner if at the end of the day he was told it was going to happen why did he not walk and tell why he was doing it ? Rather we are told he hung on until the end of the season before walking why ? I think for every manager there comes a time when change is required or things can go stale I saw that with WGS and to an extent with Lennie and in time it is likely to happen with Rony.I am not sure that you can blame anyone for it we all can grow stale if we are in a job for to long.H.H.

  29. Alfie Noakes

     

    Has anyone ever heard an ex-Rangers player, even during this farce to end all farces, be as bitingly critical to their own as some of the above pundits?

     

     

    Richard Gough: Rangers team ‘probably worst ever’

     

    Maybe we take the pundits far too seriously.

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