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  1. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    MARADOMINIC 1133

     

     

    Andy Townsend said that’s exactly what happened to him too. Just went to the well once too often,and certainly couldn’t go back.

  2. Turkeybhoy on

    Sidneytim,

     

     

    Ah,the old rumoured Board meeting,courtesy of Phil.

     

    I can just see PL getting the rough edge of Desmonds tongue.

     

    So the Mc Ginn thing.We bid a fair price for a boy in his last year,but were willing to negotiate.Then Hibs moved the goalposts.Our offer remained,and at the last minute an offer from Villa of 2.7 million came in,which,as this was now the required amount needed to purchase the player,we matched the offer.The player chose Villa.Well played Peter,I would have negotiated as you did.

     

     

    The new sponsorship deal.The largest the club has ever had.All thanks to you Peter.

     

    You are sacked.

     

     

    Aye right.Too much upside down living there mate.

  3. 16 roads. on

    I wouldn’t criticise the man for installing a heated drive way though.

     

     

    It’s his own money and he is free to spend it however he choses.

     

     

    HH. ?

  4. Turkeybhoy on

    So those damed £49 ers,have struck again.I bet Big Mark Mc Ghee did not buy one.Empty the stands.

  5. mild mannered Pedro delgado on

    Anyway John McGinn would have walked over broken glass to be guaranteed a starting place at Celtic.

     

    We move on hail hail

  7. mild mannered Pedro delgado on

    That photo in the Phil Mac giollabhain piece has got to be the caption competion over on etims

  10. Auldheid on

    JAMESGANG on 13TH AUGUST 2018 11:03 AM

     

     

    https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2018/08/13/celtic-commit-a-classical-error/#more-12194

     

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    It seems to me that if we have a commercial director bringing in £10m a year from Databet and a football manager increasing the value of the footballing operation by a similar or greater amount each year then its worthwhile trying to find a solution that makes the best of both their individual talents.

     

     

    However as Phil points out the commercial wins ride on the back of the footballing wins, but the footballing wins need commercial wins for a stable platform to perform on.

     

     

    In strictly business terms the incentives for both BR and PL should recognise the inter dependency between the two and that should be written into what produces their bonuses.

     

     

    Personalities will always clash at some point, but if the reasons for clashes can be minimised by reviewing the rewards system then we supporters might be saved the “WTF?” natural reaction every third or second season.

     

     

    The Chines say every crisis (big or small) is an opportunity and this one provides such an opportunity.

     

     

    This is a business issue, the business is football and division is bad for business.

     

     

    This situation requires a bit of business analysis to propose the best way forward and that might have to mean changing some aspects of what has worked in the past to secure a more stable future.

     

     

    Stability is good for business so its good for football.

     

     

    (Stability means more than financial stability btw, it involves relationships, communication inwards and outwards, good administration management and the internal business structures need to promote and continually encourage all of that.

  11. The Battered Bunnet on

    I dunno where Phil gets his info, but £70M over 7 years for short sponsorship is a figure pulled from another club with another sponsor on another plant.

     

     

    Pure fantasy.

  15. Auldheid on

    MARADOMINIC on 13TH AUGUST 2018 11:34 AM

     

    BTW Kouassi getting loads of abuse…he has hardly played a game in over a year… when Scott Brown missed 2 games BR excused him for a poor display by saying he lacked match sharpness!

     

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    I was very disappointed in his performance v Hearts and have not seen anything of him yet that takes him above ordinary.

     

     

    That is not abuse but I remain to be convinced he will become a first team regular.

  16. Dilligafbhoy on

    THE BATTERED BUNNET on 13TH AUGUST 2018 11:58 AM

     

    Also applies to shirt sponsorship…

     

     

    PL will be spitting his coffee out, why didnt he think of that!

  18. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    16 ROADS

     

     

    That’s was 2008 that the huns hammered Manchester. And 2009 that we threw away a 7-point lead at new year to gift them the league and CL wealth.

     

     

    I recall an article on here,maybe around April 2009 where PAUL67 promised us an end-of-season report on the debacle of the previous four months in particular.

     

     

    And that he would be excoriating in his views.

     

     

    Strangely,it never happened,and I’ve long wondered why(!)

  20. The hands cant hit what the eyes cant see on

    It’s evident that Boyata will leave this window and, in all likelihood, we won’t better Fulham’s offer of £9m.

     

     

    Now, if we receive substantially less for Boyata than £9m people will lay that at Brendan’s door. I can understand that (to an extent).

     

     

    However, in the circumstances, I can understand Brendan’s decision to dig in his heels. The offer for Boyata followed a summer of transfer inertia in which players were not replaced and, on the face of it, the team is weaker now that at the beginning of the window. In addition to that, we had just missed out on John McGinn and from Brendan’s comments, no replacement had been lined up.

     

     

    From Brendan’s perspective, what is the incentive for him to sell Boyata if he can look at the example of Armstrong and realise that he won’t be replaced?

  21. Auldheid on

    THE BATTERED BUNNET on 13TH AUGUST 2018 11:57 AM

     

    I dunno where Phil gets his info, but £70M over 7 years for short sponsorship is a figure pulled from another club with another sponsor on another plant.

     

     

    Pure fantasy.

     

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    Even so are our commercial deals valuable in terms of our environment or could anyone with expertise negotiate them?

  24. Dilligafbhoy on

    I wouldn’t like to play poker against Brendan. I have a feeling he would be pretty good.

     

    His gamble is there are a lot of clubs in Europe that are looking to strengthen before the window closes, especially in defence as we are. We have a World Cup 3rd place winner on our books who wants away. He can go, if the price is right.

     

    DB can of course gamble too. Gamble he will still be sharp after a year trying to keep himself fit with no match fitness. Gamble there will still be the interest in him as the WC will be just a memory.

     

    I think BR has the better hand, we will see. HH.

  25. Auldheid on

    16 ROADS. on 13TH AUGUST 2018 11:35 AM

     

     

    PL should have been sacked immediately after the 2007/8 season.

     

     

    Inexplicable that the old dead club were allowed to win 3 titles in a row, during Mitty’s second spell at the dead club.

     

     

    Kept the life support machine going.

     

     

    he dead club probably should have won it season 2006/7 as well, when they reached the UEFA Cup final.

     

     

    Shocking levels of incompetence.

     

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    I’ve often wondered about that season when after looking like the only title winners after a 2-1 LC victory over Rangers, we went into reverse.

     

     

    However what did fuel the three Rangers titles from 2009 to 2011 was the decision taken by SDM and WS to increase their bank debt from £6m to £36m in order to build the team that won those titles and brought in enough UEFA income to reduce that to the £18m that the bank called in in 2012.

     

     

    Between 2007 and 2008 Rangers spent £30m purchasing players but brought in £20m in sales for a net spend of £10m (Ive done a bit of rounding).

     

     

    What makes that spending decision reckless to the point of producing a wreck, was that in the spring of 2008, when most of the spend occurred, the big tax case determinations (of what HMRC thought they were owed) arrived at Ibrox. So they pushed up the debt 6 fold whilst at the same time facing an additional potential liability around £24m before penalties etc.

     

     

    It was so stoopid a decision I don’t blame Celtic for not realising then what they were up against.

     

     

    However they face the same mindset now and if we let the same thing happen again knowing that mindset, which to me is so untrustworthy as to border on the criminal, we deserve everything we get.

     

     

    Time we stopped being Mr Nice Guy.

     

     

    I’d be demanding UEFA Licence applications are vetted independently by a firm of auditors trained in UEFA FFP and if they have any doubts about the veracity of the information, they have UEFA CFCB type powers to investigate further.

     

     

    As this would benefit all clubs it should have SPFL backing. Take the job away from the SFA. UEFA rules allow for that. Because there is no new deterrent to dysfunctional behavior it will continue as is evident.

     

     

    Where the funding of TRFC is coming from is a bit of a mystery and if there is money going in that is not reflected in their accounts, then that is a reason to reject an application on a “fair presentation” basis. That principle could have applied to every licence granted to Rangers during the ebt/side letter regime based on CFCB investigations into Giannina FC.

     

     

    One hope I have for Res12 is that the above change of Club Licensing responsibilities will become a reality because both the SFA and TRFC/RIFC are untrustworthy and how much would fill a book.

     

     

    Celtic have been passive on criminal behavior for far too long and its time the inner lion that led to Lisbon roared again.

  26. connaire12 on

    Just wondering how many of you actually contact Peter Lawwell about the issues so many have been raising. I always do and it may surprise some on here, I always receive a reply. Perhaps more of you should do likewise.

  27. fleagle1888 on

    CQN Saturday Naps Competition 2018-19 – just a wee heads-up

     

     

    Lads, is anyone interested in taking part in our CQN Naps competition this season?

     

     

    Planning to start on Sat 25th August and continue until Saturday 25th May (40 weeks in total) – hopefully finish on the same day as an historic TREBLE-TREBLE

     

     

    :)

     

     

    Cheers, fleagle1888

  30. fleagle1888 on

    CQN Napsters:

     

     

    2017-18 leftclicktic +39.75

     

    2016-17 Gweedore Celt +27.00

     

    2015-16 16 roads +19.75

     

    2014-15 twists n turns +46.88

     

    2013-14 PF ayr +12.60

     

    2012-13 green T +21.35

     

    2011-12 voguepunter +21.00

     

     

    and I think Twists ran it for at least one or two years before I started…

     

     

    fleagle1888

  36. !!Bada Bing!! on

    By far best team that half, how many shite goals in Europe have we lost in first 10 minutes, over last 15 years?

  37. !!Bada Bing!! on

    So fkn frustrating, we were the better team by far for me, Sutton said what we all have been, only louder

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