For as long as you or I can remember, Celtic’s youth teams have had a fearsome reputation, winning countless titles, even with Kenny McDowall as head coach, but something inevitably goes wrong. Clubs like Dundee United, Hibs, Hearts and even Hamilton Accies have a better record of graduating prospects, despite having a poorer youth team to pick from.
The other fearsome reputation we had, was that Celtic was one of the places young talent came to wither on the vine, before shuffling off to a minor club at around 21-years-old. Where would you send your boy, Celtic or Dundee United………?
The argument goes that clubs like United have more opportunity to blood young talent than Celtic, who for long periods of the last 20 years were locked in an all-or-nothing battle for supremacy, or the need to reach the Champions League group stage, or the next level of the Champions League. This theory doesn’t stand up to scrutiny, though, as clubs with higher still demands are able to mature young talent through first team exposure.
The truth is it’s never been a first team priority, as we have been caught in a ‘buy success’ mentality for close to 30 years.
Still only 18, Liam Henderson has as much chance as anyone who have come through the ranks in the last couple of decades of making it as a top player at Celtic, but he needs to be stretched by playing competitive senior football over the next three years, cameo appearances here and there will not provide the platform he needs. A few months at Rosenborg, who kick off a new league season on Monday, will give him opportunities he’s not going to see at Celtic between now and the end of the season.
Did you see what newco director, Paul Murray, did with his stock market announcement yesterday?
He wrote, “I have been informed by Deloitte, the existing auditor, that they informed the previous Board of their intention to resign following the June 2014 audit. The previous Board chose not to announce this nor did they find a replacement for Deloitte. With limited time to have these results reviewed the Board asked Jeffreys Henry to perform the exercise as Independent Reporting Accountants, not auditors.”
On reading this many were inclined to conclude the reason Deloitte did not act as Independent Reporting Accountants for their interims was because they had left the building. Not so. Murray later confirmed to a Daily Record financial reporter (not the football guys) that Deloittes are still newco’s auditors. I am sure there is a perfectly good reason they didn’t sign off the interims. Maybe they were busy that day.
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Mike,
Oh I don’t think they are finished. In fact I don’t think they ever will.
But they are finished as a challenge to us for the immediate future.
HH
RWE
No doubt about it. They’ll be demanding the 25 point deduction for a second offence if it comes about.
I’ll be canvassing on their behalf for justice i.e 15, and not a point more!!
who are these “average Scottish Players ” we have signed? I must have missed that exclusive.H H Hebcelt
mike in toronto
Tesco is closing stores in Scotland not opening new ones.
Poundland might be a better proposition.
Celtic Mac
I stand corrected! :)
But isn’t what Ibrox is called now? I mean, that is what they paid for the whole club, right?
problem with computer? or is it likethat other undead thing, Beetlejuice …. the system crashes if you say sevco or ibrox three times?
JonnyTheTim
Personal experience, dont reply.Camera at Bath and Pitt got me last year.Ignored all correspondence , time barred in 6 months.
It is a 40 quid gamble.Take it the now , 60 quid and 3 points.If you are unlucky police han deliver it at your adress, always right at the death.100 quid and 3 points.Take your chances.HH
mike in toronto
‘Ayebroke’ is my personal preference, but Poundland is already widely used.
Wouldn’t need a name change!
starry plough
15:29 on
1 April, 2015
Graham Spiers Scotland’s answer to Liberace…
Oh I say !!!!!!!!So what if the boy loves his MOM?.
Mike in Toronto said:
“I am getting a bad feeling that there is a sense amongst our fans that they are done,”
Whilst understanding your reluctance to accept that the Scottish Establishment would ever let them disappear completely, there is a reason why there is a growing sense `that they are done,`.
Of late, I have become one of that group who have begun to sense that they really are done and that the Establishment is letting the matter run its course gradually so as to avoid the `social disorder` that might have occurred had their death been accepted in the instant that it happened.
JJ
Cynthia Lennon RIP
rwe
16:24 on 1 April, 2015
thomthethim for Oscar OK 16:05 on 1 April, 2015
It’s the pollen season here, so I have to stay indoors and daytime tv is all very Gerry Springer. :o)
Oscar Knox CSC
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They’re having an a pollen season over in Govan too.
apollenpunsruscsc.
Well done Hearts for featuring Save the Children on their shirts for the next three seasons.
Sponsored by benefactors.
WONGA nae Mari.
Paul67 et al
Graham Speirs? Just read the article in the Herald.
April Fool
Ronny on Celtic’s interest in Danny Wilson of Hearts…which the MSM picked up today!
http://www.cqnmagazine.com/?p=4387
angelgabriel 13:47
This pair have a better grasp of reality than yon Richard Wilson on BBC shortbread.
His interpretation of the published accounts. The benign questions to Mr McCall and championing of the Valencia assistant manager (Scottish guy Cathro) to be the next Sevco manager were an insult to anyone listening.
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I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry. It was like a wee boy who had just spotted the present he wants from Santa in a shop window!
You can just see him going (back?) to King and Murray – hey I reckon I’ve got your (our?) guy for you!
Great use of licence fee money, eh……
Jungle Jim
The real worrying part for me is that it is not just the “Scottish Establishment” that wants them to survive … but when so many prominent Celtics (including our major shareholder and de facto owner) seem to think that we would be better off with them, I do worry that the game is a bogey.
I am surprised at the number of posters on here who rate Graham Spiers as a good writer. I can only assume it is in comparison with the dreadful standard which passes for journalism in Scotland today.
His pseudo intellectual approach leads to fragmented, insincere and contrived expression.Were he in his early days as a writer, I would say his immaturity is obvious. That he is not ,leaves me bereft of a plausible explanation for his manufactured style….other than his admitted lack of objectivity.
JJ
Spiers is a strange one. He was actually one of the (very) few who was critical of the debt built up by Murray (the original!), but somehow doesn’t see that the success they had was BECAUSE of that spending.
Maybe someone should point him to the Battered Bunnet’s post.
Thomthetim.
rwe
16:24 on 1 April, 2015
thomthethim for Oscar OK 16:05 on 1 April, 2015
It’s the pollen season here, so I have to stay indoors and daytime tv is all very Gerry Springer. :o)
Oscar Knox CSC
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“They’re having an a pollen season over in Govan too.”
apollenpunsruscsc.
Puns like that are not to be sneezed at!
Wizard wheeze!
So thanks to RDs presser,we now know that Charlie is still not fit,that Celtic are considering a Hearts player,that he is really trying to get Jason for another year,and that the scouts are at the moment scouring fresh signings.Wished someone would have asked about Odegaard.
I like RDs press conferences.
I admit listening to clyde last night because it was a bad news day for ibrox,the focus was on the 500,000 NUFC will receive should Sevco get promotion.
Typical of the msm,focus on generating sympathy rather than on how the club is going to fund itself fairly and transparently.
Anyone else driven mad by the pop-up adds on this site that bring the PC to a standstill?
Without being on the AIM.
Mike
I understand your concern. It takes a while to believe, after a lifetime of them being accorded their undeservedly exalted position in our society, that they would ever truly disappear but I do think it is happening now.
There will be many important Celts who don`t want them`back` but they are not given any publicity ( Tom Boyd?). As for DD. He MIGHT have been sincere in what he said but his being politic in his utterances is also a possibility.
Anyway, I now feel I have devoted too much time on them but I wanted to respond to an excellent poster like yourself.
JJ
RWE
15:37 on 1 April, 2015
Sir Minty bought a business worth £21m for £6m and borrowed every penny to buy it. He trousered at least £100m cash in his 20 years through a variety of sole supplier channels, share sales, and other murky deals. For his vanity, owner of RFC got him to top table, BOS governers in his back pocket and added countless millions to his personal bank account. he’s even bought the Liquidated MIM for tuppence.
I dont think that for Green or Whyte Sevco was a vanity project, they both are dodgy, bordering on criminal, asset strippers and purchasers of absolute last resort. Both were simply out to fleece the Orcs for every penny and both seen a get rich quick scam. Whyte took it on when no one but a Liquidator would see any value in it ( if indeed there was any value)
The irony there is that, they paid £5m for a business that is currently yielding rent approx 70% a year. 8 years at over £3M nets them a cool £26m. Not bad for a £5m investment ( wherever that £5m came from)
One of the 70%@16.14
I know you should just scroll on past but such stupidity cannot be ignored.
“Stopped buying AVERAGE players from other Scottish clubs”.
You really should start fixing things with that glue instead of sniffing it.
Armstrong ,in particular, will go on to be a Celtic great. Back to your own site monkey.
JJHS
Have a good one.
Cheers!
judester
16:36 on 1 April, 2015
JonnyTheTim
Personal experience, dont reply.Camera at Bath and Pitt got me last year.Ignored all correspondence , time barred in 6 months.
It is a 40 quid gamble.Take it the now , 60 quid and 3 points.If you are unlucky police han deliver it at your adress, always right at the death.100 quid and 3 points.Take your chances.
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It’s £100 and 3 points at the moment! Was caught by 2 cops in a van.
I’m not denying it, just hoping that I can stall them and get it time-barred. General concensus on here is that I should pay up and get on with it. Not my style unfortunately!!
Turkeybhoy
Aye but he disnae need to wear her clothes:))
RWE
On reflection, if the pollen affects you so badly that you have to stay indoors all day, that can’t be much fun, so no offence meant.
Big Nan
I notice a few people have been complaining about pop-ups. I have Adblocker on my browser so I’m mostly free of it. However, when I first log on I still get a scummy betting site load up. I’d find a soft porn link less offensive to be honest but that’s just me.
Judester
P.S. Still looking to buy in. Been let down again this week by a retiree who changed his mind!
HH
jungle jim hot smoked
16:54 on 1 April, 2015
I am surprised at the number of posters on here who rate Graham Spiers as a good writer. I can only assume it is in comparison with the dreadful standard which passes for journalism in Scotland today.
His pseudo intellectual approach leads to fragmented, insincere and contrived expression.Were he in his early days as a writer, I would say his immaturity is obvious. That he is not ,leaves me bereft of a plausible explanation for his manufactured style….other than his admitted lack of objectivity.
JJ
glasstwothirdsfull
16:56 on 1 April, 2015
Spiers is a strange one. He was actually one of the (very) few who was critical of the debt built up by Murray (the original!), but somehow doesn’t see that the success they had was BECAUSE of that spending.
Maybe someone should point him to the Battered Bunnet’s post.
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glasstwothirdsfull – agree bud
JJ – you’re in a fine vein of literary form yourself today youngster!
HH jamesgang
Big Nan same prob but installed Adblocker, much better. H H Hebcelt
Good to hear Liam Henderson is off to Rosenberg to further his football education and no doubt playing on good pitches with summer football close by his undoubted skills will benefit. We will have him back with us in July which is good news. With the football season about to begin gives us an idea of the task faced by SPFL teams facing sides who are fully match-fit by the time we play them in the early rounds of European competition. Surely a reason for a rethink on the football season in Scotland. Tony Watt for me was the biggest disappointment of all the young prospects at Celtic Park, I thought this lad had everything but alas it was not to be.
Interesting to read Paul’s previous article about the financial demands and the large amount of people employed at the club. You are mindful of the great job the people who continue to guide Celtic in the right direction are doing and are able to compete in Europe despite the financial constraints.
A wee word on the Cqn POTY. Up until the time Nir Bitton stepped into the team the team were struggling and no one more so than Stefan Johansson. He was a pretty unpopular guy on here. Enter Nir; the team clicks, Johnsson clicks, allbeit further forward.He has played very well since then,but in my opinion Nir changed our season he may have played less games but I think we would struggle without him and he got my vote for player of the year. Please feel free to make me change my mind.
Just saw Mathews and Forest on Argyle St.
2 things……
They were walking. WALKING. Strolling back into position. Bet Joe Hanson never slows down to walking pace when he’s out shopping.
They are tiny wee things. Like a couple of wee school kids off on study leave and avoiding higher physics past papers at all costs……
PS saw VVD in Royal Exchange Square last year. Didn’t walk. He glided – more smoothly than a Hunnish hover pitch. And carried a Louis Vuitton man purse thing…..heading straight towards the Blane Valley.
I suspected then and now that he was off to meet Oldtim for some additional fashion tips.
HH JamesGang