Well, Naismith may not have used the word cheating but he went almost as far. Fair play to him.
RC on
BURNLEY78 on 29TH OCTOBER 2023 5:37 PM
RC
Away back to your own type.
calm down , calm down . and what type’s that.
Saint Stivs on
look how dark it is already, i bliddy hate this time of year.
markiebhoy on
Could the Green Brigade maybe put up a banner about the cheating? Just asking.
lets all do the huddle on
in a pub in ek.
a boy on singing, he was just singing “Caledonia”
a wee drunk hun who had recently staggered in from their game just randomly came up to me, tapped me on the shoulder and said “its a bit irish for my liking”
😆
what a wee fanny,
RC on
any VAR decision that goes in our favour (cough) will have no bearing on the outcome of the game as it will have been won before hand ……. but any VAR decision that thems get ……..
RC on
Celtic F.C. v St. Mirren F.C.
cinch Premiership
01/11/2023 7:45pm Celtic Park
Referee:John Beaton
AR1
Graeme Stewart
AR2
Gordon Crawford
Fourth Official
Stewart Luke
VAR
Nick Walsh
AVAR
Graham Grainger
markiebhoy on
RC
Sending out the big guns
Burnley78 on
Credit to Naismith for highlighting VAR error and calling it out. Especially the blocking which had been a feature.
Prestonpans bhoys on
I would guess Naismith is on self preservation mode, lots of hertz fans have had enough of him, clueless c#*#* as one said to me. I just 😃!
Prestonpans bhoys on
A * too many ,…….
Saint Stivs on
hotline –
“Here’s some fixture ‘trickery’ that Brendan failed to highlight. During the course of November and December, Celtic have seven home games and four away games, while Rangers have seven away games and three home games.
RC on
MARKIEBHOY on 29TH OCTOBER 2023 6:19 PM
RC
Sending out the big guns
or taking the pi**
Jobo Baldie on
Not a single email since 17:04 (thank you, Dena) but still 3 hours for you to contribute. SENCELPOTY@GMAIL.COM
The Blogger Formerly Known As GM on
SS – BR was explicitly referring to the first game after Christmas when Celtic have played away from home for each of the past 7 years.
Sorry to bore, but there’s a 1 in 128 chance of that happening (0.008%) if it’s a fair draw.
The Blogger Formerly Known As GM on
Sorry, 0.8%, but you get my drift😂
lets all do the huddle on
Not a single email since 17:04 (thank you, Dena) but still 3 hours for you to contribute. SENCELPOTY@GMAIL.COM
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its not allowed on CQN to discuss yesterdays game so thats why you have had no emails for a while
Getting back to Easter Road, are we not in fear of becoming ” entitled”. No team in world football wins every game, so why do some of the pantie wetter think we are better than that.
We should easily have won the game , but guess what, we failed to do so, let’s just deal with that.
Watched the documentary about Denis Law called ” The Lawman”, fantastic stuff , and to think that the end of his playing days he had to make a living selling carpets.!!!!!!
KINGLuBO
Turkeybhoy on
Dont care about their result today,watched it,and they were no different to Beales mob.No improvement.
5 points clear,undefeated and they now.
go into the fixture run we have just completed
2 def pens today,second one sheer madness.Out in the open,unmissable,and hung on to the jersey.Moron.,just on the park.
The Blogger Formerly Known As GM on
Just watched Naismith’s interview.
Fair to say he’s not the sharpest tool in the box.
Hearts’ ire will evolve over the next day or two. The narrative will shift from the specifics of today to the generality of how decisions never go their way “in Glasgow”. 😉
Turkeybhoy on
My problem from yesterday was,BR not telling Calmac to get his ass further up the park.Iwata,Bernardo,the big Korean boy.When holdin Mid is played,Calmac stays back with them,crowding them out.He was supposed to be taking Reos forward place,yet consistently was back hitting innumerable square passes,totally unbalancing the middle.No high midfield,no service to Kyogo,who made fruitless runs all day.No support for Palma.O Riley fighting a lone battle.
Hot Smoked on
“MARKIEBHOY on 29TH OCTOBER 2023 5:47 PM
Could the Green Brigade maybe put up a banner about the cheating? Just asking.”
I agree. Indeed, maybe something a tiffo highlighting Newco`s penalty stats compared to us/others?
garygillespieshamstring on
Markiebhoy
Was the “bringing out the big guns “ intentional or did you mean to type “h” and got “g” by mistake?
Hot Smoked on
Incidentally, I couldn`t make out the first one but the second was a penalty. Whether or not other teams would have been given it I am less certain.
!!Bada Bing!! on
Last league penalty against at Ibrox was the 14th of September 2019 against Livingston. 74 league games have been played at Ibrox since and none conceded.
Also the last league penalty conceded at all was 18th of January 2022 against Aberdeen 65 games ago.
Greenpinata on
Death taxation and penalty / penalties to ” Rangers”.
Chairbhoy on
SFTBS @ 5:39 PM,
“What percentage of players in other team’s squads make the grade?
What percentage would you say is acceptable?
What is “the grade”?
Well I get it is a challenge for Celtic.
We had a reserve team back in the day, Rangers didn’t want them to win tiar.
Then a development team, with not enough games and no clear path to the first team.
Now we have a “B” team and the first team, and a huge gap between them – many of the more advanced development players out on loan or on the fringes of the first team squad.
The squad will always have some players in that situation, they will also be injuries and players who are unfit or out of form.
Add to that players that don’t flourish at Celtic.
Take Pukki, obviously a decent striker who didn’t make it at Celtic.
Yet these should be small percentages at the fringes.
The majority should be making a regular contribution to the first team – surely that’s the grade, if you are in the first team squad.
If we get laser focused on that, we will have a smaller squad but with much more options to play those players in games like yesterday.
Now transitions, like from one manager to another, will mean players not first team ready or surplus to requirements.
“The majority should be making a regular contribution to the first team – surely that’s the grade, if you are in the first team squad.”
—————————————
If you play one game you have made a contribution to the first team. Most of our squad have achieved that. I think Tillio, Kwon, McCarthy, Kobayashi. Welsh and Siegrist are the only current squad players who haven’t played a competitive game yet though some have made a bench appearance. Yang, Holm, Lagerbielke, Bain, Forrest, Johnston, Turnbull, Phillips, Nawrocki, Bernabei, Ralston, Turnbull, Holm, Iwata, Bernardo, and Oh have all “contributed”. Some are just in the door. Others (Tillio, Welsh, Abada, Nawrocki) are only unavailable due to injury.
With only 10 league games gone and an early League Cup exit we have had little chance to bleed the new ones in. By the time we have played 38 league games, 3 or more Euro ties and however many SC fixtures we achieve, some of the non-contributors will have contributed too but I have my doubts that McCarthy and Siegrist will be in that group.
If you consider over 50% making no contribution is too much, which clubs are we comparing that too. What percentage of the squads of Sevco/Liverpool/Man City/ Brentford/Brighton/Hearts etc; never get a game, how many get fewer than 5 dub appearances etc?
I have not seen any statistical evidence that we have a higher proportion of “non-contributing” squad members. I haven’t researched it but I suspect that most clubs have a core of 6-8 heavily used players, 10-12 reliable squad members , and a further 10+ who only get a handful of appearances on bench or pitch.
Nobody, bar WITS, would have dared suggest that Liam Scales was going to jump from non-contributor to reliable stalwart but, having done so, I would not dare to suggest that he is odds on to hold off the future challenges of Nawrocki and Lagerbielke, or that Bernardo will hold off Holm and Turnbull and Iwata.
As many have oft stated, our bigger worry is the lack of reliable alternatives for the positions of GK, LB and striker.
Jobo Baldie on
*SENTINEL CELTS PLAYER OF THE YEAR 2023-24*
*RESULTS FROM GAME #14 – HIBS 0 CELTIC 0*
Good evening, friends.
From early on it seemed clear yesterday that we were in for a tough afternoon and so it turned out with a pretty flat performance. And whilst we showed a little more urgency in the final 15 minutes we didn’t really test the Hibs defence and a point was just about all we deserved.
We have now played 14 games, winning 8, drawing 3 and losing 3 with 26 goals scored and 13 conceded.
A huge thank you to the 56 who voted this week (one nominated just 2 players). The total votes cast for each player are as follows, with my own nominations asterisked.
Hart*: 9
Johnston: 1
Carter-Vickers: 35
Scales: 30
Taylor: 8
McGregor: 19
Bernardo*: 2
O’Riley: 30
Maeda: 3
Kyogo: 0
Palma: 4
Ralston: 1
Turnbull: 1
Forrest*: 18
Oh: 0
Johnston: 6
And so, the players receiving POINTS for the game against Hibs are –
Carter-Vickers – 5 points
O’Riley and Scales – 4 points
McGregor – 2 points
Forrest – 1 point
The overall positions after 14 games played are –
47 points – O’Riley
35 points – Scales
19 points – Kyogo
18 points – McGregor
16 points – Maeda
11 points – Carter-Vickers and Johnston A
9 points – Nawrocki
7 points – Hart and Yang
6 points – Carter-Vickers, Lagerbielke, Palma and Taylor
5 points – Hatate
4 points – Bain and Turnbull
2 points – Ralston
1 point – Forrest
0 points – Abada, Bernabei, Bernardo, Haksabanovic, Holm, Iwata, Johnston M, Oh, Phillips, Starfelt and Welsh
*OCTOBER PLAYER OF THE MONTH*
The Player Of The Month award is based simply on the total votes received across all games played. There were 5 games during October – Lazio, Kilmarnock, Hearts, Atletico and Hibs. In 3rd place with 95 votes is Calum McGregor and the runner up on 228 votes is Matt O’Riley. October’s Player Of The Month with 243 votes is Liam Scales.
So far the monthly winners have been –
August: Kyogo (4 games, 164 votes, average 41)
September: O’Riley (5 games, 259 votes, average 52)
October: Scales (5 games, 243 votes, average 49)
We have one more game to complete the first round of this season’s Premier League when we entertain high flying St Mirren on Wednesday at 7.45pm.
Hail Hail!
RC on
appears Tillio is now fully match fit but not rated to be SPL level.
!!Bada Bing!! on
Just watched Welcome to Wrexham S2 Episode 10,about a mining disaster which I didn’t know about, it was brilliantly done
Lots of surprise results and a few difficult to predict outcomes like Motherwell’s 3:3 draw makes this a low scoring week and very compressed . Some unusual and rarely seen podium names have risen briefly to the top this week.
Joint 1st- hairlikespaghetti, Disco Desk and SFTB- all on 5.5 pts
Joint 2nd- Melvin Udall & jmccormick- 5 pts
Joint 3rd- McKenna_88 and Leggy- 4.5 pts
At the bottom, 13 posters managed to make predictions that garnered only a single point but, outdoing all those hapless levels was a professionally hopeless last minute forecasts from Aipple which gave him exactly the square root of null points and this week’s wooden spoon.
In the overall race we have:-
1. BC Milan- 62.5 pts
2. Leggy- 60 pts
3= Billy Bhoy and Scaniel- 56.5 pts
Leading the hotly contested fight for a real wooden spoon prize are:-
wee BGFC- 20 pts
Friesdorfer- 24.5 pts
TheLurkinTim- 27 pts
but Aipple’s on a determined downward drift to contest with this group of wood fetishists
We have a quick turnaround to change your fortunes or further solidify your success and/or failure. Next deadline is Tuesday night 31st October when Hibs face Ross County at 7.45pm with 5 more following on the first of November.
Good Luck! especially to those backing Dundee.
carpe diem 63 on
Just a wee note …well done Hibs ..you have once again not Hibs’ d it against us strangely enough …not !!..,you played for your draw and to take 2 points of our lead ..and you achieved this …as I said in earlier posts you wear our colours but you are NOT our friends …freemasonry is alive and well at Easter Rd …just ask Petrie 🤔😡
Chairbhoy on
SFTBS @ 21:31 PM,
Quick one before I retire for the evening!!
My point is this, fringe players making the odd appearance is fine, maybe at the end of their career, maybe at the beginning, maybe a back up goalie etc etc – fair enough.
Not half your squad though.
We lost six first team players this year for various reasons.
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Well, Naismith may not have used the word cheating but he went almost as far. Fair play to him.
BURNLEY78 on 29TH OCTOBER 2023 5:37 PM
RC
Away back to your own type.
calm down , calm down . and what type’s that.
look how dark it is already, i bliddy hate this time of year.
Could the Green Brigade maybe put up a banner about the cheating? Just asking.
in a pub in ek.
a boy on singing, he was just singing “Caledonia”
a wee drunk hun who had recently staggered in from their game just randomly came up to me, tapped me on the shoulder and said “its a bit irish for my liking”
😆
what a wee fanny,
any VAR decision that goes in our favour (cough) will have no bearing on the outcome of the game as it will have been won before hand ……. but any VAR decision that thems get ……..
Celtic F.C. v St. Mirren F.C.
cinch Premiership
01/11/2023 7:45pm Celtic Park
Referee:John Beaton
AR1
Graeme Stewart
AR2
Gordon Crawford
Fourth Official
Stewart Luke
VAR
Nick Walsh
AVAR
Graham Grainger
RC
Sending out the big guns
Credit to Naismith for highlighting VAR error and calling it out. Especially the blocking which had been a feature.
I would guess Naismith is on self preservation mode, lots of hertz fans have had enough of him, clueless c#*#* as one said to me. I just 😃!
A * too many ,…….
hotline –
“Here’s some fixture ‘trickery’ that Brendan failed to highlight. During the course of November and December, Celtic have seven home games and four away games, while Rangers have seven away games and three home games.
MARKIEBHOY on 29TH OCTOBER 2023 6:19 PM
RC
Sending out the big guns
or taking the pi**
Not a single email since 17:04 (thank you, Dena) but still 3 hours for you to contribute. SENCELPOTY@GMAIL.COM
SS – BR was explicitly referring to the first game after Christmas when Celtic have played away from home for each of the past 7 years.
Sorry to bore, but there’s a 1 in 128 chance of that happening (0.008%) if it’s a fair draw.
Sorry, 0.8%, but you get my drift😂
Not a single email since 17:04 (thank you, Dena) but still 3 hours for you to contribute. SENCELPOTY@GMAIL.COM
—
its not allowed on CQN to discuss yesterdays game so thats why you have had no emails for a while
Getting back to Easter Road, are we not in fear of becoming ” entitled”. No team in world football wins every game, so why do some of the pantie wetter think we are better than that.
We should easily have won the game , but guess what, we failed to do so, let’s just deal with that.
Watched the documentary about Denis Law called ” The Lawman”, fantastic stuff , and to think that the end of his playing days he had to make a living selling carpets.!!!!!!
KINGLuBO
Dont care about their result today,watched it,and they were no different to Beales mob.No improvement.
5 points clear,undefeated and they now.
go into the fixture run we have just completed
2 def pens today,second one sheer madness.Out in the open,unmissable,and hung on to the jersey.Moron.,just on the park.
Just watched Naismith’s interview.
Fair to say he’s not the sharpest tool in the box.
Hearts’ ire will evolve over the next day or two. The narrative will shift from the specifics of today to the generality of how decisions never go their way “in Glasgow”. 😉
My problem from yesterday was,BR not telling Calmac to get his ass further up the park.Iwata,Bernardo,the big Korean boy.When holdin Mid is played,Calmac stays back with them,crowding them out.He was supposed to be taking Reos forward place,yet consistently was back hitting innumerable square passes,totally unbalancing the middle.No high midfield,no service to Kyogo,who made fruitless runs all day.No support for Palma.O Riley fighting a lone battle.
“MARKIEBHOY on 29TH OCTOBER 2023 5:47 PM
Could the Green Brigade maybe put up a banner about the cheating? Just asking.”
I agree. Indeed, maybe something a tiffo highlighting Newco`s penalty stats compared to us/others?
Markiebhoy
Was the “bringing out the big guns “ intentional or did you mean to type “h” and got “g” by mistake?
Incidentally, I couldn`t make out the first one but the second was a penalty. Whether or not other teams would have been given it I am less certain.
Last league penalty against at Ibrox was the 14th of September 2019 against Livingston. 74 league games have been played at Ibrox since and none conceded.
Also the last league penalty conceded at all was 18th of January 2022 against Aberdeen 65 games ago.
Death taxation and penalty / penalties to ” Rangers”.
SFTBS @ 5:39 PM,
“What percentage of players in other team’s squads make the grade?
What percentage would you say is acceptable?
What is “the grade”?
Well I get it is a challenge for Celtic.
We had a reserve team back in the day, Rangers didn’t want them to win tiar.
Then a development team, with not enough games and no clear path to the first team.
Now we have a “B” team and the first team, and a huge gap between them – many of the more advanced development players out on loan or on the fringes of the first team squad.
The squad will always have some players in that situation, they will also be injuries and players who are unfit or out of form.
Add to that players that don’t flourish at Celtic.
Take Pukki, obviously a decent striker who didn’t make it at Celtic.
Yet these should be small percentages at the fringes.
The majority should be making a regular contribution to the first team – surely that’s the grade, if you are in the first team squad.
If we get laser focused on that, we will have a smaller squad but with much more options to play those players in games like yesterday.
Now transitions, like from one manager to another, will mean players not first team ready or surplus to requirements.
But not over 50%, that’s just a flawed approach.
IMO – of course…
Hail Hail
Nite all
A wee tune that will not send you off to bed quietly. :)
The brilliant ‘SPRINTS’
SPRINTS – UP AND COMER
https://youtu.be/RAVgqbsw5NE?si=2zjir2W30TSIRs_i
Nite y’all
Stay classy
Tell your friends, they’ll like it.
Brian
HH
Why ask the GB to do the heavy lifting.
Flood cyberspace with FACTS.
Statistical fact 1 : Sevco get awarded far more penalties than any other top flight team in Scotland
Statistical fact 2 : Scottish referees do NOT award penalties against Sevco in league games.
Statistical fact 3 : Over a FIVE year period Sevco are the net (awarded – conceded) penalty GALACTICOS of European football.
Call it out with facts
(not opinions which can be easily swatted away as bias by anyone with the intelligence level of someone with the surname Keevins)
Set the tone and agenda NOW
Not to achieve change NOW … but certainly before cheatin’ Beatin’ becomes SFA Head of Refereeing.
Chairbhoy
“The majority should be making a regular contribution to the first team – surely that’s the grade, if you are in the first team squad.”
—————————————
If you play one game you have made a contribution to the first team. Most of our squad have achieved that. I think Tillio, Kwon, McCarthy, Kobayashi. Welsh and Siegrist are the only current squad players who haven’t played a competitive game yet though some have made a bench appearance. Yang, Holm, Lagerbielke, Bain, Forrest, Johnston, Turnbull, Phillips, Nawrocki, Bernabei, Ralston, Turnbull, Holm, Iwata, Bernardo, and Oh have all “contributed”. Some are just in the door. Others (Tillio, Welsh, Abada, Nawrocki) are only unavailable due to injury.
With only 10 league games gone and an early League Cup exit we have had little chance to bleed the new ones in. By the time we have played 38 league games, 3 or more Euro ties and however many SC fixtures we achieve, some of the non-contributors will have contributed too but I have my doubts that McCarthy and Siegrist will be in that group.
If you consider over 50% making no contribution is too much, which clubs are we comparing that too. What percentage of the squads of Sevco/Liverpool/Man City/ Brentford/Brighton/Hearts etc; never get a game, how many get fewer than 5 dub appearances etc?
I have not seen any statistical evidence that we have a higher proportion of “non-contributing” squad members. I haven’t researched it but I suspect that most clubs have a core of 6-8 heavily used players, 10-12 reliable squad members , and a further 10+ who only get a handful of appearances on bench or pitch.
Nobody, bar WITS, would have dared suggest that Liam Scales was going to jump from non-contributor to reliable stalwart but, having done so, I would not dare to suggest that he is odds on to hold off the future challenges of Nawrocki and Lagerbielke, or that Bernardo will hold off Holm and Turnbull and Iwata.
As many have oft stated, our bigger worry is the lack of reliable alternatives for the positions of GK, LB and striker.
*SENTINEL CELTS PLAYER OF THE YEAR 2023-24*
*RESULTS FROM GAME #14 – HIBS 0 CELTIC 0*
Good evening, friends.
From early on it seemed clear yesterday that we were in for a tough afternoon and so it turned out with a pretty flat performance. And whilst we showed a little more urgency in the final 15 minutes we didn’t really test the Hibs defence and a point was just about all we deserved.
We have now played 14 games, winning 8, drawing 3 and losing 3 with 26 goals scored and 13 conceded.
A huge thank you to the 56 who voted this week (one nominated just 2 players). The total votes cast for each player are as follows, with my own nominations asterisked.
Hart*: 9
Johnston: 1
Carter-Vickers: 35
Scales: 30
Taylor: 8
McGregor: 19
Bernardo*: 2
O’Riley: 30
Maeda: 3
Kyogo: 0
Palma: 4
Ralston: 1
Turnbull: 1
Forrest*: 18
Oh: 0
Johnston: 6
And so, the players receiving POINTS for the game against Hibs are –
Carter-Vickers – 5 points
O’Riley and Scales – 4 points
McGregor – 2 points
Forrest – 1 point
The overall positions after 14 games played are –
47 points – O’Riley
35 points – Scales
19 points – Kyogo
18 points – McGregor
16 points – Maeda
11 points – Carter-Vickers and Johnston A
9 points – Nawrocki
7 points – Hart and Yang
6 points – Carter-Vickers, Lagerbielke, Palma and Taylor
5 points – Hatate
4 points – Bain and Turnbull
2 points – Ralston
1 point – Forrest
0 points – Abada, Bernabei, Bernardo, Haksabanovic, Holm, Iwata, Johnston M, Oh, Phillips, Starfelt and Welsh
*OCTOBER PLAYER OF THE MONTH*
The Player Of The Month award is based simply on the total votes received across all games played. There were 5 games during October – Lazio, Kilmarnock, Hearts, Atletico and Hibs. In 3rd place with 95 votes is Calum McGregor and the runner up on 228 votes is Matt O’Riley. October’s Player Of The Month with 243 votes is Liam Scales.
So far the monthly winners have been –
August: Kyogo (4 games, 164 votes, average 41)
September: O’Riley (5 games, 259 votes, average 52)
October: Scales (5 games, 243 votes, average 49)
We have one more game to complete the first round of this season’s Premier League when we entertain high flying St Mirren on Wednesday at 7.45pm.
Hail Hail!
appears Tillio is now fully match fit but not rated to be SPL level.
Just watched Welcome to Wrexham S2 Episode 10,about a mining disaster which I didn’t know about, it was brilliantly done
Superbru Round 10 update
Lots of surprise results and a few difficult to predict outcomes like Motherwell’s 3:3 draw makes this a low scoring week and very compressed . Some unusual and rarely seen podium names have risen briefly to the top this week.
Joint 1st- hairlikespaghetti, Disco Desk and SFTB- all on 5.5 pts
Joint 2nd- Melvin Udall & jmccormick- 5 pts
Joint 3rd- McKenna_88 and Leggy- 4.5 pts
At the bottom, 13 posters managed to make predictions that garnered only a single point but, outdoing all those hapless levels was a professionally hopeless last minute forecasts from Aipple which gave him exactly the square root of null points and this week’s wooden spoon.
In the overall race we have:-
1. BC Milan- 62.5 pts
2. Leggy- 60 pts
3= Billy Bhoy and Scaniel- 56.5 pts
Leading the hotly contested fight for a real wooden spoon prize are:-
wee BGFC- 20 pts
Friesdorfer- 24.5 pts
TheLurkinTim- 27 pts
but Aipple’s on a determined downward drift to contest with this group of wood fetishists
We have a quick turnaround to change your fortunes or further solidify your success and/or failure. Next deadline is Tuesday night 31st October when Hibs face Ross County at 7.45pm with 5 more following on the first of November.
Good Luck! especially to those backing Dundee.
Just a wee note …well done Hibs ..you have once again not Hibs’ d it against us strangely enough …not !!..,you played for your draw and to take 2 points of our lead ..and you achieved this …as I said in earlier posts you wear our colours but you are NOT our friends …freemasonry is alive and well at Easter Rd …just ask Petrie 🤔😡
SFTBS @ 21:31 PM,
Quick one before I retire for the evening!!
My point is this, fringe players making the odd appearance is fine, maybe at the end of their career, maybe at the beginning, maybe a back up goalie etc etc – fair enough.
Not half your squad though.
We lost six first team players this year for various reasons.
Giakoumakis, Juranovic, Jenz, Mooy, Starfelt, Jota.
We have a signing policy that replaces them with prospects.
It doesn’t work, too hit and miss.
By all means bring in development players, Matt O’Riley, Liel Abada level.
But replace experience and quality with better experience and quality.
Ange and Dominic McKay proved it can be done. Our flawed strategy has to be abandoned.
Have A Good night…
Hail Hail
Many observers reckoned George Harrison was only a fringe player with The Beatles….
But he proved them all wrong
He’s So Fine CSC