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History calls tonight, with the captain making his 400th Celtic appearance – an astonishing figure in the modern era, while Brendan’s men could equal the Lisbon Lions record of 26 unbeaten domestic games, achieved in season 1966-67.

For me, it’s also the first time I’ve seen Celtic in the flesh in 4 weeks, which itself feels like an historic gap.

Several weeks ago we discussed St Johnstone in the context of being in a league of their own, equally adrift from the top three and those below them, but that’s no longer the case. They are now 3 points behind Hearts with a game in hand, and with the way Hearts results have been heading recently, Saints will fancy their chances of finishing fourth.

After taking points off Aberdeen, Newco and three others in December, the roof fell in on St Johnstone at Dens on Hogmanay. Like all Celtic Park visitors, they will defend deep and play on the counter, but we know the task. Expect history books to be updated later tonight.

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  1. The Battered Bunnet

     

     

    No doubt that Burns, Scott and later Robert Louis Stephenson have all contributed via poetry and the novel to a view of Scottish history. Scott helped engineer the first visit of a monarch, George IV, to Scotland in two hundred years. He tried to persuade said King that he was also a Stuart, or at least directly descended from James VI, and hence Mary, which was in fact. Would never have set foot in either Scotland or England though had it not been for 1701. I noticed the other night that Scott was portrayed,unfairly in my book, as a a kind of progenitor of the Ku Klux Klan by Neil Oliver, and not for the first time. And that was Scott the novelist!

  2. The Battered Bunnet

     

     

    No doubt that Burns, Scott and later Robert Louis Stephenson have all contributed via poetry and the novel to a view of Scottish history. Scott helped engineer the first visit of a monarch, George IV, to Scotland in two hundred years. He tried to persuade said King that he was also a Stuart, or at least directly descended from James VI, and hence Mary, which was in fact true. Would never have set foot in either Scotland or England though had it not been for 1701. I noticed the other night that Scott was portrayed,unfairly in my book, as a a kind of progenitor of the Ku Klux Klan by Neil Oliver, and not for the first time. And that was Scott the novelist!

  3. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    TBB

     

     

    i also think Scott’s depiction of the ‘Porteous Riot’ is a warning of the power of popular insurrection, and the need for the strict rule of law….Scott is horrified by the random violence of insurrection, but also fascinated.

     

    In a nutshell, subdue the revolutionary impulse or go the same way as France…..re-hash of Edmund Burke in novel form…sort of:)

     

     

    HH

  4. Paul67 et al

     

     

    Apologies for the double post.

     

    The best laid plans o’ mice and men

     

    Gang aft agley

  5. The green man

     

    My son in law has a stoke SB – Bojan is very hit and miss and divides opinion – flatters to deceive – I agree that I don’t see what he would bring to us.

  6. Anybody know when the cup game against ICT will be confirmed on Feb11th or 12th, travel plans to make. H H Hebcelt

  7. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    TBB

     

     

    I also note that Scott’s warning of the possibility of popular insurrection in HOM in 1818, was followed in 1820 by the Cato St Conspiracy, and the Radical War in the West of Scotland.

     

    Anyway:)

     

     

     

    HH

  8. saltires en sevilla on

    Sandman

     

     

    Thank God, for sanity.

     

     

    There is something for everyone in Burns, or there ought to be. Give the man some time and cast an e’en eye..

     

     

    Ploughed through a volume of Waverley Novels in my teens, and loved them all.

     

     

    Difference?

     

     

    Often revisit Burns, not Scott. Never say never tho’…

     

     

    Not that it matters, I visited Scott’s home at Abbotsford a few years ago and suprised at the bells n whistles in the Chapel. First thoughts were, Episcopalian or High Anglican.

     

     

    Seems his granddaughter converted to Catholicism in 1850’s, and her husband was supportive of, or connected to, Cardinal Newman.

     

     

    http://www.scottsabbotsford.com/visit/the-house/the-chapel/193

     

     

     

    Will the present day Hope-Scotts, be supporting the Hoops tonite?… ;-)

     

     

     

    Left to my, mum by her late brother. I have expectations ;-)

  9. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    Gene

     

     

    What would be the point.

     

    Id rather have Leigh Griff:)

     

     

    HH

  10. BT.

     

     

    I’M coming into the Blane Valley around 3.00pm on Friday, wee chat regarding Lisbon.

  11. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    JC2

     

     

    On yonder hill, there stood a coo

     

    Its no there noo, it must have shifted:)

     

     

    Apologies to William MacGonagall

     

     

    HH

  12. Robert Burns,

     

     

    Robbie’s sister, Agnes ’emigrated’ to County Louth around 1817, there’s a cottage there called ‘Burn’s Cottage’. It’s a lovely place called Stephenstown Pond, near Dundalk. Agnes and her husband, William Galt worked there for the landlord, Matthew Fortescue.

     

     

    That’s why Carroll’s named their cigarettes brand ‘Sweet Afton’, which were manufactured in Dundalk to highlight Burns link with the town.

     

     

    Agnes Burns is buried in one of the two St Nicholas’s Cemeteries in Dundalk.

     

     

    http://stephenstownpond.com/?page_id=2

     

     

    Robert Burns was certainly an important figure for the Society of United Irishmen prior to 1798. Some believe that it was the proceeds of the sale of a work by Burns that financed the newspaper The Northern Star, which was published by Presbyterian United Irishmen and frequently published Burn’s work. Henry Joy McCracken and Samuel Neilsen are known to have been supporters.

     

     

    The Presbyterian’s post 1690 and the Penal Laws had been banned from holding office or holding certain professions. Presbyterian marriages were not regarded as legal until well into

     

    the nineteenth century. It was all about ‘the Anglican Ascendancy’ I suppose.

     

     

    It’s interesting how many in the Ulster Scotch fraternity (with a few notable exceptions) embrace the Scot’s tongue of Burns but neglect the facts of the United Irishmen or indeed the Society of United Scotsmen.

  13. GuyFawkesaforeverhero on

    Good luck to Celtic, with a capital c, tonight. Heading out to the game soon and I hope Leigh Griffiths has the chance to shake off the winter break cobwebs during some part of the game.

     

     

    Enjoyed the Glasgow photographs yesterday especially the Ca’d’oro building. Thanks, TD67.

     

     

    On a Burns’ Night, many many years ago, a family of Maryhill Tims joined a family of Budhill Tims at that Ca’d’oro for a celebratory fiesta as my late parents began their married life. The hills were alive with the sound of rebel and Catholic music.

     

     

    6IAR! still six to go.

  14. PS William Topaz McGonagall

     

     

    Shouldn’t be appraised against Scott and Burns as although he

     

    tried to hide it he was according to census IRISH born

  15. CELTIC MAC

     

     

    Pretty sure Neil Oliver said the people of privilege in the South felt themselves to be living in a Walter Scott novel due to their romanticised view of their heritage.

     

     

    Laird of all they saw kinda thing.))

     

     

    I didn’t get the impression he was linking Scott with the Klan.

     

     

    That’s what I took from that part of the show.

     

     

    HH

  16. CLOGHER CELT on 25TH JANUARY 2017 3:59 PM,

     

     

    Very interesting piece. There is a man living near me here in the West, who claims that Burns also visited Kildare and wrote the words to “The Curragh of Kildare”. Would you have heard or read anything to support this?

     

     

    HH

     

    Yogi

  17. One of Burns unpublished poems………..

     

     

    To a Fart

     

     

    Oh whit a sleekit horrible beastie

     

    Lurks in yer belly efter the feastie

     

    Jist as ye sit doon among yer kin

     

    There sterts tae stir an enormous win’

     

    The neeps ‘n’ tatties ‘n’ mushy peas

     

    Stert workin’ like a gentle breeze

     

    But soon the puddin’ wi’ the sauncie face

     

    Will hae ye blawin’ a’ ower the place

     

    Nae maiter whit the hell ye dae

     

    A’bodys gonnae hiv tae pay

     

    Even if ye try tae stifle

     

    It’s like a bullet oot a rifle

     

    Hawd yer bum ticht tae the chair

     

    Tae try an’ stop the leakin’ air

     

    Shify yersel fae cheek tae cheek

     

    Prae tae God it disnae reek

     

    But aw yer efforts go assunder

     

    Oot it comes like a clap o’ thunder

     

    Ricochets aroon the room

     

    Michty me a sonic boom

     

    God almichty it fairly reeks

     

    Hope a huvnae s**t ma breeks

     

    Tae the bog a better scurry

     

    Aw whit the hell, it’s no ma worry

     

    A’body roon aboot me chokin

     

    Wan or twa are nearly bokin

     

    A’ll feel better for a while

     

    Cannae help but raise a smile

     

    Wis him! A shout wi’ accusin glower

     

    Alas too late, he’s jist keeled ower

     

    Ye dirty bugger they shout and stare

     

    A dinnae feel welcome ony mair

     

    Where e’er ye be let yer wind gang free

     

    Sounds like jist the job fur me

     

    Whit a fuss at Rabbie’s party

     

    Ower the sake o’ wan wee farty

     

     

     

    I’ll get ma coat!

  18. The Klan programme with Neil Oliver was only first broadcast on November 1st last year,good bit of television for anyone interested in the subject matter.

     

    The one thing that struck me about the modern Klansmen/women was how uneducated they were,almost to a person they came across as simple and afraid.I found myself pitying rather than have animosity towards them.In fact,when comparing them to Klan members from old footage they don’t seem to have advanced at all in terms of education.They seem to be the exact opposite of what a ‘master race’ would be.I find them to be both ridiculous and incredibly sad.And,of course,dangerously unhinged.

     

    They reminded me of a group of beings much closer to home but just a tad more sophisticated. ;))

     

    https://youtu.be/UlzaBi_QxPw

  19. STARRY PLOUGH on 25TH JANUARY 2017 4:22 PM

     

     

     

     

     

    That was certainly what I understood he was saying.

  20. ——-

     

    Well, We Won’t Be Celebrating Burns Tonight…..

     

     

    Hell,No…..!

     

     

    He Dissed Some Of Our Ancestors…

     

     

    In A Certain Tawdry Verse….

     

     

    Back In The Day.

     

     

     

    Wee Ivanka And Barron Will Be Watchin’ The Bhoys Equalling A Lisbon Lions’ Record….

     

     

    Then We’ve Arranged A “Live” Link-Up Between The Oval Office And The Brazen Heid……

     

    And We’ll Have Ourselves A Fine Hootenannie…..

     

     

    With Tony D. And The Gang….

     

     

    Yee-Haw…!

     

     

    ———

  21. Bojan???

     

     

     

    Not sure about that at all ….Might be worth a punt

     

     

    £8m????? No way!!!!!!!

     

     

    But…..In Brendan I trust….

     

     

    HH

  22. STARRY…

     

    Plus ça change…

     

    The heart sinks at times.I guess some people will never learn. :((

  23. ——- Ol’ Cadizzy Driven North Of The Border…….

     

     

    By The Continuing Courgette Famine In Croydon….

     

     

    Due To The ‘Global Warming’ Hoax…..

     

     

    Causing Heavy Frosts In The Courgette Fields Of Southern Spain.

     

     

    ——-

  24. Yogi Hughes,

     

     

    Thanks for that. Sorry I haven’t seen anything to support what your friend told you about The Curragh (but who knows).

     

    Agnes Burns moved here in 1817 and died in 1834. Her husband William Galt, ironically died at the peak of An Gorta Mor in 1847.

     

     

    1817 was well after Rabbie’s death in 1796.

     

     

    It appears that Rabbie might have adapted ‘The Winter is Past’ from ‘The Love Sick Maid’, published in 1765. That piece was about a hanging on The Curragh.

     

    That’s interesting, however because it further highlights the links.

     

     

    The Green Man,

     

     

    Cheers.

     

     

    TD67 is a genius for stimulating so much work about Burns etc.

     

     

    Fair play Tony, an inspired post :))

  25. STARRY PLOUGH on 25TH JANUARY 2017 5:17 PM

     

     

    I saw it the first time it was shown, which I think was on BBC Scotland.

     

     

    The problem with its reception in Scotland is that Neil Oliver is something of a hate figure for the nats, so they’ll reject anything he has to say as a matter of principle.

     

     

    There seems to be a growing awareness, or recognition, of the role the slave trade had in the growth of west coast ports like Glasgow, Liverpool and Bristol.

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