History can pivot even for bench duties

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Scott Bain leaves Celtic as one of the most decorated players in Scottish football history.  Since signing in January 2018 the goalkeeper has collected 14 winners’ medals, including seven league titles.  The trophies arrived at a rate of one every 5.6 first team starts, which is probably a record!

He was the player Brendan Rodgers never intended to sign.  Brendan was set to bring in Trevor Carson from Motherwell that January on a four year deal, but Motherwell’s backfill (a loaner from Newcastle) went to Aberdeen instead, so ‘Well were unable to agree the deal.

Scott was brought in on a six-month loan.  In an interview last year, Carson revealed that Brendan spoke to him after the deal fell through and told him Celtic would be back in for him in summer.  When transfer business got underway the following June, Motherwell wanted £1m for a player who would make a total of 65 league and cup appearances for them over an indifferent four year stay.

That’s fewer than Scott made for Celtic in seven years.  Celtic declined. Carson’s subsequent career suggests he was not worth that valuation.  We signed Bain on a free to pick up bench duties instead.

History is fascinating because there is so much omitted.  The Trevor Carson/Scott Bain goings-on is a case in point.  History pivoted, but without a footnote.

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  1. Paul The Spark on

    Does anyone know if the 49ers are investing any money at all? Seems to be that the £20m mentioned will be raised by a share issue. Does this dilute the existing shareholding ?

  2. Paul The Spark on 31st May 2025 6:57 am

     

    Does anyone know if the 49ers are investing any money at all? Seems to be that the £20m mentioned will be raised by a share issue. Does this dilute the existing shareholding ?

     

     

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    I think the hun shares are already diluted that would shame homeopathic medicine

  3. ‘I think the hun shares are already diluted that would shame homeopathic medicine’

     

     

    😂yorkbhoy

  4. Paul the Spark

     

     

    It seems to be a PE play which will risk little or none of their capital and seek to rinse the entity whilst taking a nice return.

     

     

    They will see our exceptional performance as a benchmark for where that lot should be and the potential return they could get.

     

     

    Their fattened board aligns with similar models in other industries and indeed other clubs.

     

     

    It won’t be their money for sure.

  5. garygillespieshamstring on 30th May 2025 10:21 pm

     

    Sky sports news reporting Celtic getting “around 5 million” from a £29.5 million Liverpool offer meeting the release clause in Frimpong’s contract.

     

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    Sky just said that we would get £5.5 million. That seems to confirm the sell-on of 30% of the difference between what we sold him for and what he went for now (~18M). Nice bit of business with no US investor/gies a sugar daddy any sugar daddy involvement. During his short time with us, I thought the we man was electric going forward but not brilliant defensively. I suppose he’s improved a lot. Would I rather have Frimpong or KT back? KT all the way 😁 (and for heehaw).

  6. A Champions League final for the purists tonight. ⚽️🍀👍

     

     

    Two ACTUAL champions of their country in the final for just the second time since 1998.

  7. bournesouprecipe on

    Mr Cavenagh You now own 49% of Sevco

     

    Congratulations

     

     

    Mr Park You now own 40% of Sevco

     

    Congratulations

     

     

    Mr Green You now own 43% of Sevco

     

    Congratulations

     

     

    Mr Whyte You now own 43% of Sevco

     

    Congratulations

     

     

    Mr Boyne You now own 41% of Sevco

     

    Congratulations

     

     

    Mr Johnson You now own 39% of Sevco

     

    Congratulations

     

     

    Mr Easdale You now own 36% of Sevco

     

    Congratulations

     

     

    Etc Etc Etc

     

     

    Mel Brooks CSC

  8. BSR

     

     

    You hinting there could be a little internecine problem ahead.

     

     

    HH

  9. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    Good morning CQN.

     

     

    Hope tonight’s final is a credit to our game.

     

     

    Maestro – didn’t know that. First in 27 years? Remarkable.

  10. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Ibrox side have traded as ‘The Rangers International Football Club PLC’ since November 2012 but will now be known as ‘Rangers International Football Club Limited’ in the new era under chairman Andrew Cavenagh and 49ers enterprises – led by vice chairman Paraag Marathe – will see a shift if voted through at the club’s upcoming Extraordinary General Meeting

     

     

    Rangers who were not publicly listed on the stock exchange despite their PLC status – will now become an LTD, a move which ensures shares cannot be offered to the public and offers an added layer of control for the new regime

  11. bigrailroadblues on

    Good afternoon all from the Railway Bar, Bundoran. Another day in

     

    Ballyshannon coming up. Dearie me. 😳

  12. !!Bada Bing!! on 31st May 2025 11:47 am

     

    Ibrox side have traded as ‘The Rangers International Football Club PLC’ since November 2012 but will now be known as ‘Rangers International Football Club Limited’ in the new era under chairman Andrew Cavenagh and 49ers enterprises – led by vice chairman Paraag Marathe – will see a shift if voted through at the club’s upcoming Extraordinary General Meeting

     

     

     

    Rangers who were not publicly listed on the stock exchange despite their PLC status – will now become an LTD, a move which ensures shares cannot be offered to the public and offers an added layer of control for the new regime

     

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    Just made me wonder, which UK football clubs were private. Some research required.

  13. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    BB @11:47 am – cheers (again).

     

     

    I assume this is from a published article?

     

     

    I genuinely laughed out loud at this bit.

     

     

    “and offers an added layer of control for the new regime”

  14. burnley78 et al

     

     

    So the consortium has bought 51% of the shares of the ol’ Rangers International, leaving er 49% still owned by er sumdy else. Mmm….lets call them the 49rs

     

    Now I cannot see just how much they paid for what would be around 250,000 pieces of confetti, and from whom they actually bought them. Nor what will happen to the outstanding interest bearing loans/charges owed to various directors, £18 million In total down to former chairman John Bennett for instance, and he turned another £5 mill into share equity not so long ago. George Taylor, who is/was a major shareholder is still on the board, and wouldn’t remain if he had sold all of those would? Dave King was desperate to cash in on his diluted block so you would imagine he would have been keen to sell, but what about all the mugs who bought into the new club? And as we know, buying existing shares does not put one penny into the the club, (Dave King did not get his £20 mill back from liquidators BDO) so the only prospective investment is via a £20 mill share issue to be decided by the new board, (and a few from the old board) on June 23. (not to mention the continuing and built in losses) Cannot imagine the 49%ers (see what I did there) buying in, or anyone else outside the consortium, so yet another dilution for the mugs hanging on to the share certificates sold to them from Charlie Green onwards.

     

    The Vox Pop on BBC last night showed that they are buying into being sold out…….again

  15. Paul The Spark on 31st May 2025 6:57 am

     

     

    Does anyone know if the 49ers are investing any money at all? Seems to be that the £20m mentioned will be raised by a share issue. Does this dilute the existing shareholding ?

     

     

    *is that NOT what happened to manure, they were bought using a bank loan and then had a share issue to pay it back

  16. glendalystonsils on

    A very interesting article by Alan Morrison (Celtic by numbers) on the Huddle breakdown ‘new season , new threats’ regarding the Ibrox takeover , the rising prospects for Hearts and hibs , and most importantly what it means for Celtic .

     

     

    A refreshing relief from the kind of fairytale analysis being chucked around by the Ibrox minded media , but objective enough to acknowledge that there are potential threats our board needs to respond to .

     

     

    Unfortunately can’t copy and paste it but well worth a read if you can find it.

  17. tontine tim

     

     

    Dont think there was ever a share issue by the Glaziers. They bought the club over a couple of years, the key purchase was the shares owned by John Magnier and John McManus, plus a lesser but significant block from our very own Dermot Desmond. Over 2003-2005 or so they acquired 100% of Manchester United, delisted from the London Stock Exchange and moved the club to the NYC SE. They have sold blocks of shares over the years, most recently a 25% tranche to “Sir” Jim (The Rat) Ratcliffe for £1.3 billon. Despite that they retain the majority of the shares and control of the club leaving “Sir Jim” in charge of fitba operations, albeit one without European action next season. Long may it continue, nothing against the Glaziers they have provided hundreds of £millions to any number of managers since Fergie stepped down, but the involvement of Ratcliffe (who I believe is, in part at least, a front for the Chinese Communist Party) (and who tried to buy Chelsea before buying shares from the Glaziers), has ended any affection I may have had for the club that Matt Busby built, and rebuilt.

  18. GM – would you sell IdaH? We’re in a weird place , not too long ago wehad MOR, Hatate, Jota, Kyogo , DM

     

     

    engels, Idah, DAizen, Yang Kuhn doesn’t have the same punch.

  19. Reports from the USA confirm that around 250,000 honeybees have escaped after the truck transporting their hives rolled over on the highway North of Seattle in Washington State.

     

    A local spokesman was quoted as saying…”There’s definitely a buzz about the place”…

  20. The Glaziers borrowed the money from US hedge funds to buy united outright. The debt was loaded into the football club, the club has been servicing the debt ever since.

     

     

    It’s a different story at Leeds and likely the Huns. A group of investors bought the shares from the existing owners, no extra debt on the company. Leeds just announced another £120m of share capital, funded from the owners, the 49ers group owns 100% of Leeds

     

     

    Their investment of £20m in the Huns will come from the group that bought the shares. New shares issued and bought by the new investors. They won’t be offered to other investors or it might dilute their shareholding to below 51%. This might also explain the move to a limited company status, they no longer have to offer new shares to the public

     

     

    So no extra debt and no increased cost in servicing the debt, but dilution of their shareholding for the remaining shareholders.

  21. CELTIC MAC on 31ST MAY 2025 3:38 PM

     

     

    The Glazers have invested £45m of their own money but taken nearly ten times that in dividends.

  22. The Blogger Formerly Known As GM on

    Jackiemac, on their showing this season I’d happily take our money back for both Idah and Engels.

     

     

    That is unlikely to happen, so along with Trusty, they all need to step it up exponentially next season.

     

     

    My biggest fear, to which I’d attach a reasonable probability, is that they don’t, we lose Maeda and spend a considerable sum of money on more players like Idah, Trusty and Engels.

  23. Talking of investment Paddy Power has us 4/11 to win the spl next season.

     

     

    A return of 36%, ridiculous

  24. glendalystonsils on

    nottaclue1 on 31st May 2025 3:44 pm

     

     

    Thanks , I thought it was worth sharing .

  25. TBFKAGM

     

     

    Spot on, the three of them need to kick on next season……

     

    Both that played in the final posted missing!

  26. celtic40me on 31st May 2025 4:30 pm

     

     

    The Glaziers borrowed the money from US hedge funds to buy united outright. The debt was loaded into the football club, the club has been servicing the debt ever since.

     

     

    *thats what I was led to believe, but your next text “The Glazers have invested £45m of their own money but taken nearly ten times that in dividends.”, now thats more like it, who in their right mind would go anywhere near trumpetville right now

  27. bournesouprecipe on

    On the day they announce their long awaited ‘ takeover ‘ and a £20M investment. Celtic get a £5M -6M windfall for a player we sold 5 years ago.