The actions of the Sevco Requisitioners in undermining Newco Rangers made no sense. They invoked an almighty schism, one which will forevermore deny the emerging club from a potentially rich seam of support. An act of such potential vandalism would surely not be undertaken unless they had a plan to deliver the necessary votes?
Turns out they didn’t have a plan after all. Some Oldco Rangers fans put their money on the table but their face didn’t fit. As a consequence, another group of Oldco Rangers fans overtly and covertly campaigned against them, but refused to put cash on the table.
Say what you like about the Easdales, they paid their money fair and square (and any debts to society, for those who like to go digging in the past). The embryonic club will develop in their image, it will stand or fall on their judgement. After coughing up, they endured incredibly manipulative pressures. They don’t strike me as natural underdogs but on this occasion they were. They resisted and I’m pleased for them. If you want to buy a club, walk in the front door with your cash, don’t try to drive the price down by trashing the club and invoking an insurrection.
Paul Murray deserves a special mention in this whole process. When Charles Green was pulling a deal together to buy the liquidated assets of Rangers, Murray campaigned against him, and all others who were prepared to put money on the table. As a consequence, Green was up against it from day one.
Instead of addressing Rangers fans as the man who ensured football would continue at Ibrox, Charlie was painted as a pantomime villain. Without this act of vandalism, he would have been able to sell 30,000 season tickets at full price. He could also have chased everyone earning over £50k per annum off the premises, ensuring Newco launched profitably, with a strong fan base.
Today, Newco would have money in the bank and be laying the foundations necessary for top flight football. No ‘legend’ would have been able to hold them to ransom in return for £800k p.a. Instead, Green, with £5.5m and untold more from his consortium in the game, was put in a horrible situation. As a consequence, he overpromised and under-delivered.
Having done all this, Murray turned on the Easdales, still without the money to get the job done. It is utterly unfathomable.
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This hopefully is link to complain about ASA
http://t.co/WVt3hXv0dg
EDIT – correct post:
Forget what you read or hear about anyone else – the stability of the Zombies AGM relies on the actions and word of only THIS man:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YBYStjurPZw/Uejj8zwZXRI/AAAAAAAAILU/WIKMvqJrIgM/s1600/HenchmanCallingDC_TradingPlaces.jpg
THE HONEST MISTAKE
And he will continue to do so,IMO.
The sensible thing to do would be to allow him to be voted on to the board,and then be told that due to him having been a member of the liquidated previous entity,it is illegal for him to be there. Problem solved.
Did I say the sensible thing? Pffffft. Must be tired….
Right listen to this call it’s a must.
Via @stevendoyle75 this chap Davie on Clyde leaves the panel without an answer, particularly the Dalziel http://t.co/uL9ZBNk6s9”
TT
Celtic could have Sir Tim Bell guiding their PR and we would still be getting it stuck to us tight by the scoddish laptops…….
Clarence beek’s report on frozen orange juice?
TinyTim
They need to engage a neutral media outlet that the support will use. Can’t think of a single one that has such coverage.
BMCUWP
While your on the blog and congrats on your podium, again. I got your email but I’m having issues of the Luddite kind with my phone. Upshot is, I need to get a wean with the patience of a saint to help me fathom out how to work the bliddy thing.
Anyway, thanks for your kind wishes and I’m really pleased that your Dad and sister had a great time in Barcelona, at least they had the good sense to make the most of it unlike some I know.
Once I get the hang of the old mobile (I don’t think I’ve ever used so many profanities over an inanimate object in my puff) I’ll be in touch asap, aye I’m not a happy bunny either about what’s been going on but I’ll leave that for the email. I know the next few days do your head in so I hope the time flies quickly Bobby, take care Bud
‘The Zombies will be in the same league as us in 2 seasons’
With respect 2 seasons is a long , long , long way away.
THis time last year we were awash with CL Premier Cru, now we’re drinkin’ the dregs from an ole tin of Kestrel that’s been used as an ashtray.
Tiny TIm is correct to warn against complacency but only the unpredictable is predictable.
Bmcuwp.
Can he not get a job anywhere else?
Sfa for example?
BANKIEBHOY
His first name would set off his second one in their heads.
Paul,
Do you expect Super Salary’s next move to be a PR support spunt for his pals the Easdales?
I reckon he’ll be having “a cup of tea and a wee chat” with them early next week and calling for the fans to unite and get behind the club (or the holding company/ clumpany).
Thorughout all of this he has been canny enough to filll his pockets at every turn (he doesn’t do pay cuts) and I think even handing over the proxy for his vote had the blessing of the Spivs as they knew his vote was immaterial. Keeps the fans happy so he can help the board fleece them again next season.
Here’s an idea for the Requisitioners.
Now, I know this will sound absolutely ridiculous and implausible. But, why don’t you start a whole new club. Call yourselves “Rangers 2014” or something. Apply to join the senior football set up. Now I know clubs couldn’t possibly join the senior set up straight away as they require 3 years accounts but give it a bash. Didn’t stop Sevco afterall. Then have a sensible business plan where you spend what you earn. Pay your bills and find your natural level in Scotland. Whether that be a second tier outfit or a lower SPFL team.
Nah, sorry. Silly idea!
SENGA
Smashing!
A wee word of warning re the phone. I got an iPhone in February.
I’m glad I kept my old Nokia too!
I like the way they put the manual online. How do you get online if you canny get the bloody thing to work!
PS-it took me over an hour to figure out where the SIM went…..
Bobby
Aye.
Which might be no bad thing.
The issue in scoddland is that most of the meeja are peepiled by huns – those that support the ranjurs.
Speaking up for Celtic is like a Turkey voting for Christmas.
bobby murdoch’s curled-up winklepickers ………fc not plc
Hope your keeping well mate , have a good Christmas and New Year when it comes .
Hope to see you again in the New Year for a wee swally :-)))
Paul67,
I don’t claim to understand the in and outs of the pantomime in Govan but, I’m sorry to say, your article has just made it even murkier. I appreciate you have added a huge piece of sarcastic irony but I was hoping that the upcoming AGM would have seen the final showdown, with friend Craigie emerging from the ole shadows, producing the deid team’s deeds, which he has now to give to Ticketus.
Oldtim67 – how are you? Will be through before Christmas HT will arrange it with you. Hope you’ve recovered from Barca
FFer commends to the permanently raging the words of Gustav Krupp in urging decorum at tomorrow’s pantomime:
“It is of paramount important that those attending the AGM tomorrow behave in a manner that will not give those in power the opportunity to close the meeting because of unruly behaviour. The board must be questioned, but please think about your questions, do not ramble, make them precise. Do not be aggressive or threatening. We need to ask the questions and we need to listen to their answers.
I have no doubt that there will be journalists within the audience just waiting for any misbehaviour to be reported with glee. Do not give them the ammunition!
Please Please Please do not behave in a way that will result in the support being made out to be the wrong doers in this sorry saga.
“With these men and women who work-for the cause with all their hearts, with cool heads and skilled hands we will master every fate.” Gustav Krupp
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Gustav wouldn’t stand any nonsense.
weeminger
12:47 on
18 December, 2013
Cathedral View
12:36 on
18 December, 2013
It also said that full membership transferred across and I thought they were just associate members.
I need to cross check ever reference to see where it’s flawed. A job for tonight I think.
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Weeminger
Can you check how the following on how membership was granted by the SFA (with a bit of clarification on licensing to get terminology right) stands up?
(I was looking into the subject last nigh to answer a post on tsfm and found myself checking up on SFA Articles.)
Licensing and Membership are terms often used interchangeably as if they are the same thing when they do not and it can cause confusion.
On Licensing:
UEFA set the standard for national associations and insist that teams in top tiers of leagues meet UEFA FFP standards to be eligible to play in UEFA competitions. The rules and criteria are specifically set out on UEFA FFP 2012 (an update on 2010).
Clubs in lower tiers however have to abide by the standard the national association deems necessary. In Scotland it is called National Club Licensing. Like UEFA licensing it has rules and criteria although a bit less rigorous in degree and scope than UEFA FFP.
Whilst clubs cannot play in a UEFA competition without meeting the licensing standard, there is more discretion under National Club licensing with a number of levels from Gold down to Entry Level. The idea is that standards are set, criteria to verify standards against are set out and if a club fails to meet the Entry standard it is given time to comply, but ultimately, at the discretion of the Licensing Board, a licence could be refused leading to cessation of playing.
However a club would have to behead at least 10 referees and not be contrite to suffer that fate. I exaggerate but in short football, in Scotland anyway, wants to keep football clubs alive, otherwise there is no one to play against.
On SFA Membership
Now had the normal course of events taken place new “Rangers“who had no SPL place or SPL share , it having gone to Dundee, would have become an Associate Members of the SFL and had 14 days to thereafter to apply for Associate Membership of the SFA (and after 5 years been able to apply for full membership, except reconstruction has changed that.)
What happened is that Article 14 of SFA Articles came into play which, whilst it prohibits a transfer of membership nevertheless allows any other application for transfer of membership to be reviewed by the SFA Board which will have complete discretion to reject or grant such application on such terms and conditions as the Board may think fit.
I reckon that it was this complete power of discretion that gave the SFA the authority not only to enable a transfer by allowing D&P or C Greene to apply for one, but to also set up the 5 way agreement. They could of course have said apply as a new club for Associate SFA Membership after joining the SFL, but the transfer and 5 way agreement discussions probably took place earlier against a background of staying in the SPL. Nevertheless that is what could have happened had SFA not been intent on keeping Rangers alive and I can understand why that would be their priority.
UEFA have no such concerns in terms of UEFA competitions. They say you can be a member of your national association, but if you fail OUR licencing criteria which does not recognise a transfer of membership and is there to protect the integrity of UEFA competitions, you are not allowed to play in a UEFA football competition.
Ironically Both UEFA and SFA have the same aim, to protect the game.
The problem is UEFA think this can best be done by removing cheating, the SFA think our game can only be saved by indulging in it.
FOURGREENFIELDS
Cheers,bud. To you and yours by return.
You’ll have a few months to let your liver recover from the festive season. I doubt I’ll be home till April.
I also doubt I’ll be allowed out after September’s shenanigans!
But I have a plan…..
Paul67
“He could also have chased everyone earning over £50k per annum off the premises, ensuring Newco launched profitably, with a strong fan base.”
See, this confuses me.
I thought we were being told that we should “never interrupt an enemy while they are making a mistake”.
It seems now we are being told that they were not making a mistake but were instead set for a successful launch, and, furthermore, it was only the meddling, confused, intervention of Paul Murray et al (No! not that one) that scuppered them.
This begs the question:- “Why were we standing back while they were attempting to make a success of it? Why did we depend on Paul Murray’s dogged but failed fumblings?
‘I reckon he’ll be having “a cup of tea and a wee chat” with them early next week ‘
-presumably before they nail his head to the coffee table.
Paul 67 et al,
With a passing reference to your article.
A quandary for Paul Murray regarding his image and “Rangers” boardroom strategy.
When he was caught out and told If you drink too much alcohol you can become an alcoholic, being such a clever fellow he thought I’ll go on the Fanta and maybe become Fantastic.
Credibility : Green and Whyte saw him coming.
Last word from the last article.
China-Fake Viagra, fake iPads, fake perfume ,fake trainers, fake handbags, fake watches, fake DVDs, fake everything.
But their recent moon landing was real right?
Hat, coat. off oot as Kev-J would say.
HH, Always in Celtic.
MONAGHAN 1900
Please tell me you added that quote yourself!
Ffs,you’ll be telling me next Krupp was a master of the red-hand salute….
Gustav Krupp; purveyor of death on an industrial scale; ‘super- Nazi’, died of syphilis.
All in all the ideal chap to inspire the Horribles.
Gustav Krupp died of syphilis.
Re the ASA case – we have cost them time, money and a great deal of inconvenience. We got uncomfortable questions asked and have exposed the sham even further causing unease and embarrassment for those in the game who have failed the integrity of the sport due to their desire to protect them.
This involved exposing their lies about being endorsed by the Panel at the London Stock Exchange. It even involved ASA themselves curiously bending over to help and receiving sharp criticism from Sir Hayden Phillips for doing so.
Read the judgement carefully. Clever use of words – linguistic gymnastics – to get them there and all contrary to the ASA’s own published guidelines which basically say – if you want to claim the history of a liquidated business pay the debts in full. There are 130 million reasons why this is wrong but a well done to the 82 for shining a bright light on these crooks.
Bobby,
I’m posting from the communal laptop and as for the online manual? Well the other half printed it off for me after my last strop but it’s still all gobblygook to me. Smart phone? Just makes me look like a complete diddy but it seems to cause a lot of hilarity for my nearest and dearest, barstewards the lot of them
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS ………FC not PLC
13:11 on
18 December, 2013
MONAGHAN 1900
Please tell me you added that quote yourself!
Ffs,you’ll be telling me next Krupp was a master of the red-hand salute….
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LOL! – I’m afraid I can’t lay claim to adding the quote. A master of the red-hand salute indeed!
SOUTH OF TUNIS
That’s at least the second time today you’ve echoed DBBIA.
How weird.
Are you sure you took a plane to USA and not a Chinese rocket to the moon?
Or maybe you should point your phone East and not West as the signal is going the long way round.
Gustav Krupp Loyal
CQN Annual arrived this morning.
Thanks for prompt delivery and for putting my moniker on the same page as Auldheid.
It has been a long time since I have been in such illustrious company.
Dontbrattbakkinanger
12:58 on
18 December, 2013
‘The Zombies will be in the same league as us in 2 seasons’
With respect 2 seasons is a long , long , long way away.
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With respect, naw it isnae;)
This time next year the MSM will be trumpetting their ‘return’ as only a few months away and we all know what happens when these games are hyped to the max and the huns lose.
Don’t forget there could be a little cup tie not too far away to test the water.
The Celtic board will delight in taking the money from the hun masses while they destroy our stadium – I wonder if the harassment of our fans will be complete by then?
I hope they’ve thought this through. On the face of it its been an almighty balls up so far.
HH
HH
SENGA
I feel your pain,oh very much so!
Do what I did. Ignore their calls for a few days,say that they know you canny work the thing,so jooooost gonny bloody show me?!
Hen1rik 12.54
Your link doesn’t work.
TT
BMCUW.
Haven’t left the ground yet —— delayed !
Oooooops.
Forgot my family lurk on here.
I made that bit up about the phone,honest!
SOUTH OF TUNIS
Oh,hell.
Are there any expensive shoe outlets in the airport?