The actions of the Sevco Requisitioners in undermining Newco Rangers made no sense. They invoked an almighty schism, one which will forevermore deny the emerging club from a potentially rich seam of support. An act of such potential vandalism would surely not be undertaken unless they had a plan to deliver the necessary votes?
Turns out they didn’t have a plan after all. Some Oldco Rangers fans put their money on the table but their face didn’t fit. As a consequence, another group of Oldco Rangers fans overtly and covertly campaigned against them, but refused to put cash on the table.
Say what you like about the Easdales, they paid their money fair and square (and any debts to society, for those who like to go digging in the past). The embryonic club will develop in their image, it will stand or fall on their judgement. After coughing up, they endured incredibly manipulative pressures. They don’t strike me as natural underdogs but on this occasion they were. They resisted and I’m pleased for them. If you want to buy a club, walk in the front door with your cash, don’t try to drive the price down by trashing the club and invoking an insurrection.
Paul Murray deserves a special mention in this whole process. When Charles Green was pulling a deal together to buy the liquidated assets of Rangers, Murray campaigned against him, and all others who were prepared to put money on the table. As a consequence, Green was up against it from day one.
Instead of addressing Rangers fans as the man who ensured football would continue at Ibrox, Charlie was painted as a pantomime villain. Without this act of vandalism, he would have been able to sell 30,000 season tickets at full price. He could also have chased everyone earning over £50k per annum off the premises, ensuring Newco launched profitably, with a strong fan base.
Today, Newco would have money in the bank and be laying the foundations necessary for top flight football. No ‘legend’ would have been able to hold them to ransom in return for £800k p.a. Instead, Green, with £5.5m and untold more from his consortium in the game, was put in a horrible situation. As a consequence, he overpromised and under-delivered.
Having done all this, Murray turned on the Easdales, still without the money to get the job done. It is utterly unfathomable.
Just a few posting days left to order your CQN Annual before Christmas, £5 from every sale goes to the Malawi appeal:
Sean Fallon: Celtic’s Iron Man:
[calameo code=000390171ece27dd9e54e lang=en page=98 hidelinks=1 width=100% height=500]
641 Comments- Pages:
- «
- 1
- 2
- 3
- 4
- 5
- 6
- 7
- 8
- 9
- 10
- ...
- 17
- »
Paul Murray coming up on shortbread. Wait for it:
The debt was coming down.
This was never about Paul Murray.
Who are behind Blue Pitch Holdings?
The fans love me.
MacIntyre loves me.
I love me.
iShortie doing its best for the team it supports……………….
Flattering coverage, priceless.
bournesouprecipe @ 16:56,
“Social unrest……..Timmy”
Ah! Yes, I forgot about that one:-)
The Battered Bunnet @ 17:03,
That’s interesting – they never even applied, sad indictment when a small Club with ambition can’t progress, still they are taken seriously when it comes to getting fined.
Only read and fully understood t’uther day that Dundee had to wait until the first week in August to get their SPL membership ratified.
They seem to have ridden rough shod over everyone.
Hail Hail
I think the introduction of BT sport will prove to be pivotal. Very soon Sky will have all its eggs in the one basket i.e. The EPL. It needs to stimulate interest. There is little doubt the product is a little stale and the presence of Celtic ( Probably with a form of the reincarnated club ) would boost interest, especially with overseas viewing figures.
This is not an impossible dream; Market Forces as in all football matters will eventually prevail.
———————–
I can’t see us ever playing in Englandshire- I can see a french/dutch/american/asian club entering it before us. I think it will end up a 39th game scenario long before we come up in discussions. I’d make a crazy pitch to join the MLS
Last night’s Shortie was nothing short of astonishing.
MacIntyre stated openly to “cheer Rangers supporters up” we’ll go back and look at the Rangers CL campaign when they ALMOST made it to the CL Final.
FFS, what the hell has that got to do with anything happening today? Naked cheerleading, nothing more, nothing less and an absolute disgrace from the national broadcaster.
Spiers actually challenged Murray’s claim about halfing the debt on Saturday. Be interesting to see if he has the guts to say it again when Murray comes on……
STARRY PLOUGH
That could have been my post,total agreement,even in feeling and faith !! HH
PAUL 67
Why do u persist in writing about that new team…isn’t there enough things happening in Celtic Park for u to write about?? I’m sure there is Paul so why don’t u give it a try ? HH
UTLR
Almost feel sorry forBFDJ. A complete buffoon of a man who is still in denial.
He is without a shadow of a doubt the most ill informed of “pundits.”
Paul, reading between the lines of your somewhat unusual conciliatory post, it would seem you are resigned to enduring their sectarian hatred with Celtic Park again in a relatively short period of time.
We are seeing the divide and conquer strategy of the SMSM right now aided and abetted by the authorities. Due to us being mired in a parochial backwater and seen as small beer on planet UEFA , they are getting away with it.
Tens of millions in debt unpaid, illegal player contracts, unrestrained sectarian behavior, alleged collusion from…well we all know who.
Will we be asked to welcome them on their first visit back with a slogan from the marketing department trumpeting “new firm”?
I’m away doon the pub.
I look forward to the day that Delaney’s Dunky brings his pal Kojo into the Chandlers to let his mates meet the self avowed voice of Fascism, racism, greed & selfishness, who believes that people who are struggling in life should.. ‘end their own miserable existences’.
By the way, I promise I will be on the bell.
e=mc2-Would be interesting if BT Sport won rights for the EPL next time round.
The Battered Bunnet 17:03
But someone must have decided there would be no chance of other clubs even being ALLOWED to apply?
notthebus-No matter who wins the day,BFSDJ will ask about his Testimonial,he’s been trying to get one for about 20 years now.
chairbhoy
There was never a formal opportunity. Soundings were taken left and right, but no vacancy arose, and no applications were sought.
Speirs giving Murray a hard time re Oldco board and EBTs
“It wisnae me – it was the Murray Group”. Oh dear!
Paul Murray coming across as a decent guy
Gettin ripped by Speirs
HaHa
Fair play to Spiers grilling Murray. Murray waffling like a thing that waffles a lot.
Best of it is ……the Scum think he is the MAN
BFDJ is…… The Binman,
minus the gravitas,
sincerity
and wit.
;)
quonno @17.53 Hrs.
Yes I agree they will return, but as a new club with no history and we must be vigilant.
We have debated many times on here about redefining the word and act of liquidation, the merits of holding companies dying but not the club. etc. etc. etc.
With the greatest respect, Absolute crap. Some of their own have stated such when the CVA was rejected.
If they wanted their history then pay the debts. Simple.
However I have stated before on here that we are losing the argument. We may be winning some battles but we are losing the war. Apathy is rife. Collectively we have let them and the MSM cherry pick want they want.
The adage, If you repeat the lie often enough then it will eventually be taken as truth is the strategy.
Not from me it won’t. I’ll always remind them of this. I do however accept that we will be playing them again, maybe sooner than we think in the cup.
If it is at Parkhead and I am at home then I will be there to support our team. No ifs no buts. What is concerning is that the rivalry and hatred will be taken to extremes and society in general will suffer.
HH, Always in Celtic.
PS : Have BDO completed the act of liquidating the old club. Is there currently two entities. ? Apathy I also plead guilty.
derbyshirebhoy
16:37 on
18 December, 2013
Been trying to think who Denny Johnstone reminds me of?
Anyone old enough to remember St Pat’s Dumbarton pupil and European Cup Winner John “Solly” ‘O Hare ?
*I recall Solly well, there was a time when he couldnae get a game on a Saturday as St Pats didnae have a team in his age group and St Martins didnae have a boys guild so his da who worked with a coach of St Kessog’s BG asked if he could play for their under 16 team, both parish priests agreed and up tae Balloch he came.
My brother played in that team as my granny had a falling out with one of the priests at St Patrick’s so he used his da’s address tae play for St Kessog’s. Former Thistle, Morton and Dumbarton winger Brian Gallagher also played in that team.
One day I went intae Castlehill tae watch St K’s play St Michaels, we were a couple of men short and me and my pal who’s brother also played in that team also got a game. I was pretty young 12/13 and was stuck out on the right wing. Near the end my chance came and I raced in on goal, walloped it down low, open toe sandal and all, only for the keeper catch it at the post.
The crowd on Castlehill Road behind the goal gave the keeper scheidt, “you should have let the wee bhoy score ya big eejit” was one of the shouts. That big eejit BTW was Evan Williams.
Is that Mark Dingbat that’s on Shortbreed ?
BFSDJ…nuff said, I don’t even think he’s in denial, he’s just to thick to get it!
Paul Murray,you widnae want him going out with yer sister wid ye!!
Paul Murray-The Creative Accountant’s Accountant……
jimmci 18:15
Indeed. Had to laugh when the players were asked about being drawn against Leeds. The reality is they were NOT drawn against Leeds.
They were drawn against Stuttgart. Then it was discovered that Stuttgart had played a fourth foreigner against Leeds. The game was replayed and Leeds won.
The draw should have been re-run as Rangers and Leeds were both un-seeded. With Stuttgart dropping out, Dinamo Bucharest should have moved up to being one of the eight seeds and would have avoided playing Marseille.
Rangers benefited by playing an un-seeded team, against a British opponent (check their record v foreign teams around that time) and a team which was so poor that season they only finished three places above relegation. Should never have been in the group stage.
Don’t expect to hear any of that on our national broadcaster though……..
!!Bada Bing!!
Someone i know just calls Murray a liar (allegedly)
All of Britain’s 200 nuclear bombs are stored 30 miles from Glasgow so that alone should mean a Yes vote, however the constant harassment of Celtic supporters makes me wonder why we would. Usually a lurker now but decided to post the following due to recent events.
Irish songs have been sung at Celtic Park and other grounds that we visited since the inception of the club. One particular favourite in the oul days was “Dear Little Shamrock” and as noted on here in a groundbreaking ceremony “God Save Ireland” was sung and for those that don’t know this air it commemorates the hanging of 3 members of the Irish Republican Brotherhood an organisation that staged the Easter Rising in 1916, which led to the establishment of the first Dail Eireann in 1919.
They were hanged for killing a policeman while trying to rescue their 2 colleagues from an “English Prison Van” as contained in the lyrics of “The Smashing of the Van” another song that has been aired on the terraces of Scotland.
On January 1, 1957 “A Lorry Load of Volunteers” crossed over the border at Brookeborough Co. Fermanagh (which is not far from TT’s ancestral family farm which I first visited later on that year) to launch an attack on a joint RUC/B Specials barracks. 2 of the volunteers suffered fatal wounds. Shortly after that “awful night” a song that commemorates one of those was being sung with quite gusto by our fans again on the terraces of Scottish football grounds. In fact after Stevie Chalmers scored the aggregate equalizer against Vojvodina Novi Sad the song erupted from the Celtic end, it was this wee mhan who started it.
Incidentally I can’t recall the last time I sang or even listened to a rebel song but back in the day I was a Green Brigader.
10 months earlier the Clancy Brothers in concert in Glasgow sung about the other volunteer that died that night, the song was written by Dublin born Dominic Behan who lived for a time on the south side of Glasgow and actually died there. Whilst living in Glasgow he became involved with the Scottish Republican Army. BTW his mother’s brother wrote the “Soldiers Song”.
On April of that year a young TT sat with his da and watched a programme on BBC commemorating the “50th Anniversary of the Easter Rebellion in Dublin” as it was called. One of the artists on the show was the aforementioned Dominic Behan and one of the songs that was sung was “Skibereen”. A song that discusses the Famine and the Young Irelander Rebellion of 1798. 2 of the leaders of this group were the aforementioned 2 that were rescued by the “Smashing of the Van”.
I wonder if the BBC will likewise commemorate the 100th anniversary in just over 2 years time.
It’s interesting to note that during the times where “rebel songs” were sung either on the terraces, concert halls and national TV no one was arrested and no one died.
It’s also interesting to note that wherever Celtic supporters travel out with the country either on vacation or to support the side the same affect happens.
During the dark days of the 50/60s prominent business men in Glasgow dismayed with the way the club was being run toyed with the idea of forming a “new” Celtic club?
Obviously that never happened but any effort to sanitize the support and turn the club into a West of Scotland Hibernian or Dundee United may see some of the support following the example of “FC United of Manchester” or more probably the model that was used in 1994.
Incidentally our “owner” was born in Macroom a town that traditionally and correctly is known as “the town that never reared a fool.” And was also a hotbed of IRA activity and is close to Beal na Blath where Michael Collins was ambushed.
DD is a billionaire and the 4th richest man in Ireland while his buddy and fellow Celtic shareholder Denis O’Brien is the 2nd. Billionaires are no fools whether they come from Macroom or not.
PL is just a puppet of DD and if the latter realizes that his investment is on the wane then changes similar to 1965 by Bob Kelly will occur.
The club’s future is in the hands of the support.
Let the People Sing.
Tontine Tim
I do remember John O’Hare. Got a few caps in the early seventies- scoring up at Pittodrie v Belgium after an amazing dribble by Jinky.
I seem to remember he was a Bluenose. According to the Daily Express at any rate.
Jimbo 67 supporting Oscar Knox
BFDJ says you have to remember there are 2 Ally McCoists.
Hun muppet on Snyde said Craig Whyte sold his shares to Charles Green, not one panelist had the nous to put him right.
leftclick Together we will get justice for the Dam 5
He played fives with us back in the 80’s I don’t see any signs that age has improved him!!
jimbo67
18:51 on
18 December, 2013
Tontine Tim
I do remember John O’Hare. Got a few caps in the early seventies- scoring up at Pittodrie v Belgium after an amazing dribble by Jinky.
I seem to remember he was a Bluenose. According to the Daily Express at any rate.
*nae chance, when we went down to Nottingham to play he was cheering the bhoys on.
Meant to add that in the late 70’s he played in the NASL with Dallas Tornados and when up in Toronto playing my brother took him to the New Windsor House a well know TO Irish pub.
Tontine Tim
I suspected this was another Express scoop.
Sort of like ‘ there will be no war’. During the summer of 1939 and finding Martin Bormann in 1972.
Jimbo67 supporting Oscar Knox
Tontine Tim
Smashing wee story
They keep talking about running out of money in April….they’ve got nae money the noo
Tontime tim Was that on the blaize pitch? Guess if it wasEvan it must have been. Played in thesame team with John before he went toSunderland but only for a few games. He disnae remember me!
Just what I have heard
The bestest manager that offered to take a pay cut,
This is being held through negotiations with his lawyer/agent and the board ?
Tell the truth Sally
You also got your shares for a penny ?
Hail Hail