Let us be clear, if you are found to have transgressed an SFA rule and a judicial panel is asked to apportion a punishment, you have absolutely no rights to character assassinate or question the independence of the panel. Nor in doing so, do you, or the Scottish public (good grief!) have a right to try to ‘out’ the panel.
Ally McCoist prepared for a Rangers TV interview yesterday, not normally an environment subject to the kind of spontaneous and offhand comments you get post-match, decrying the work of the “supposedly independent judicial panel”.
The SFA must take whatever steps necessary to protect those involved in their judicial process and must ensure that any appeal by Rangers is heard on the evidence of the case alone.
Despite much protest, no one has actually claimed Rangers are innocent. That being the case, the judicial panel must apply appropriate punishment. The option to revoke Rangers membership of the SFA remains open to the panel – something that would be impossible to avoid if the club were found guilty of subverting over 700 games of football and a decade worth of trophies.
These matters are not going away. Take your medicine.
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Amidst all the heavyweight goings on,one (less than) small point appears to have been missed by many.
D&P’s case v.Collyer Bristow,which D&P were desperate to have fast tracked for obvious reasons,will not be heard until October 2012.
Given the sum involved,£30m,I think this is just as important an event as others in recent days.
As I’ve banged on about for a while on here,it’s not just money that’s a problem for them,increasingly it’s about time….and it is fast running out.
This is a huge blow to any lingering hopes of survival the may have had
Thoughts?
Morning bhoys
Been offline a while
Have duff and duffer announced what the result of the CVA vote was ?
Still hope the big FTT hits them ASAP ,the last session was 16,17,18 of January.
Get a move on and end this pantomime .
That’s a good 3 months and still no verdict ?
Maybe the spl will beat them to it with the 2 contacts/ extra payments ?
Come on Neil Doncaster hit them with the fatal blow
Havingapartywhenthehunsdiex csc
Livibhoy and anyone else with huns in the workplace feeling all vulnerable and persecuted…
Tell them they’re just paranoid.
Jeezo, for the sake of entertainment I just listened to the Daily Record podcast. The outrage from Jackson, McDermott and co about the punishment given to the buns has to be heard to be believed.
It’s as if the SFA should have given them money instead of fining them.
What a shower of useless idiots these clowns are.
Top of the morning to you all from a miserable morning in Fife.
Thought provoking article as ever Paul and it is puzzling that Alistair McCoist knows the identity of the panel that imposed the sanctions on Rangers because a member of RFCIA appeared before them.
Yet he is asking for their identities to be revealed?
Is it because he believes in openness and transparency about those who make decisions that affect him/his club?
Would Alistair go further and call for a register of Masonic membership for football’s decision makers so that we know all about them?
Would he have their addresses published so that we knew if there were any geographical factors that might affect their decisions?
All in the interests of justice of course.
Or is he simply wanting to publish names that might have an Oirish ring about them? So that the thugs who attend Orange Order parades and assault and generally intimidate innocent RCs or Irish descended people could make their lives a misery? Just as they have done with Neil Lennon.
Just as Spiers comments yesterday about the safety of Craig Whyte in Glasgow might have been made with genuine Christian concern about Craigy boy, Alistairs comments about the people whose names he knows may be borne out of the high principles………..but I doubt it and suspect it is aimed at those of the lowest common denominator.
jimmci on 25 April, 2012 at 10:57 said:
funny eh
hahahah
Would be interesting to find out if Sally ever lost a 15 point lead on Question of Sport. Maybe Sue could tell us.
googybhoy ♥ Celtic and Integrity on 25 April, 2012 at 10:52 said:
Neil whispers to Sally ,
‘Don’t be a stranger …’
Posted by top corner last night:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz9stPeGbn4
Enjoy!
Big Nan on 25 April, 2012 at 10:58 said:
agree
100% m8
RogueLeader
The offices in Charlotte Square have been empty for some time now.
j77
I hear you on that one. I’m enjoying their ineptness of the situation. They really did think that they would get bailed out by someone. The only way they can get out of this mess is to pledge their cash and buy shares in the club they profess to love.
That will never happen!
LB
Court action involving Duff and Phelps / MIH / Minty Moonbeams / Craig Whyte / Collyer Bristow and Gary Withey..
It will run and run .
Who uttered what to whom ?
Neil whispers to Sally
“Time to walk away…”
Gordon J
….Failed Question of Sport Captain
Hilarious! HH
Headtheball -yes , the key question turned out to be the ‘ Mystery Personality’.
Sally incorrectly identified him as a ‘Motherwell Born Billionaire, with a huge warchest just for me’.
Sue said that was wrong, it was in fact a fly wee chancer called’ Craig Whyte’.
jimmci
That’s exactly what Fat Sally alluded to last night. The FA financially assisted Portsmouth but (instead) the SFA stuck it to us (or words to that effect).
No remorse, no insight, only continuing and deluded sense of warped entitlement and unmerited privilege!
HH
Dontbrattbakkinanger
Funny!
What happened next? :-)
Yet again Alistair McCoist maintains a remarkable level of dignity and gravitas in the face of adversity.
While others in similar circumstances would resort to snarling, wearing a tracksuit, or perhaps even having ginger hair Alistair continues to wear a blazer, waistcoat and brown brogues. Remarkable.
Big Nan
Why not reveal the names? If they want to make more of a fool of themselves then the SFA should go ahead.
Swally knows the names but won’t reveal them. A coward to the end. A very sneaky coward!
It makes me sick to my stomach that football fans & journalists in this country have more sympathy for a manager who may lose his job rather than one who had his life at risk last season.
Pathetic
LB
Now imagine Neil Lennon had made similar remarks to McCoist yesterday DEMANDING the supposedly independent panel be named.
What would the back pages have looked like and any chance he may have been invited to Hampden on a disrepute charge?
Thought so too so when will we see McCoist similarly charged and harangued by the media?
Think we all know the answer to that one too.
No wonder they want to close our schools, how easy is it to control peepil whose memories can be errased and rewritten so easily.
Neil to Sally
See you in three years maybe
Captured on 25 April, 2012 at 09:51 said:
Alex Thompson UTV
Excellent. How refreshing to see an honest professional journalist at work, compared to the sub standard ones we have in Scotland. Imagine an independent Scotland, with similar sub standard politicians and King Alex, who wouldn’t make a better King than Our last King, Idi Amin.
RogueLeader on 25 April, 2012 at 10:52 said:
Deekbhoy – D&P were granted a motion that forces MIH to hand over all documents between them and Collyer Bristow relating to the sale of Rangers.
Thanks for info RL.
I assume this is them trying to get at MBB’ s shares. Because without them D&P have nothing to ‘sell’ to the bidders.
Nice throw away line missed by MSM by the Ernst and Young guy on Newsnight when asked about the full wages kicking in June as being a problem he agreed ‘because it is unlikely any CVA could be in place in time’.
merseycelt lmfao as the big house door slams shut:
That wee cameo off Shittaker throwing the ball at the Malmo player is why I can’t stand this guy above all other hun players. This is why I highlighted him the other day. A despicable coward who can give it but can’t take it. Or as the dictionary says : A Hun.
brimmer
jim Traynor, if only they would admit they, Rangers, cheated Scotland, if only they would say sorry – to Scotland, if only they said we will do all in our power to pay all our debts regardless of how long that might take to all those that we owe, in or out of Scotland, then just about every decent minded person in Scotland would say, without remission, let them serve their sentences to the maximum of the law, after all they benefitted more than the law will ever redress to the wronged, and maybe then we will not gloat and mock their fall and maybe, just ,maybe we will not seek their death that the rulesthey signed up to stipulate.
If they pay ALL their dues and refrain from sectarianism and bigotry, then they are an SPL club should only their non-MIB assisted results merit it.
The MIB and the MEDIA are complicit too mate; Very complicit. Very, very, smeared in a dirty, smelly, alliance with the immorality’s whores and you Jim were one big man in that gang.
Think about it you pretender to a scribe… how much Champions League money did Rangers deprive from Celtic and all her honest Supporters?
How much did they cheat all other Scottish Clubs?
How much did they cheat European clubs?
Think about it Jim,think about the money, the MONEY; After all, that, (THE SOILED SILVER) and the tainted glory is all that the huns ever thought about.
Following on from the square slice routine:
“Euromillions £36m Jackpot Mass ticket purchase
Get every bear and their granny to buy numerous tickets, someone pockets £36m and saves our magnificent club. Spread the word ! A lad can dream. “
Ole Johnny Clash – the waistcoat in question -is it Alastair’s own, or is it a hand me down from ole Uncle Walter, like Bilbo giving Frodo his simmit made of mithril, only with less obvious effect in terms of invincibility?
If corrupt fc already know who was on the panel, their managers outburst appears to want something done about them, is that no threatening behaviour.
Take your medicine is the new Pay your bills.
I like both to be honest.
SwanseaBhoy
Tom English: ‘The level of punditry is patronising and insulting’
Published on Tuesday 15 June 2010 21:53
IT’S FAIR to say that it’s not just ITV that has taken some stick for some of their coverage at this World Cup, particularly the coverage of the tournament’s lesser lights. The BBC have been getting it in the neck as well. To give you an example, what I’m talking about here is things like Alan Shearer’s self-proclaimed “expert analysis” that amounts to a conveyor belt of cliches and the kind of insight that even a child of six would describe as laughable.
• Alan Shearer deserves criticism for lack of research and overall enthusiasm as a BBC pundit.
Before the Algeria versus Slovenia game in Group C on Sunday, Shearer seemed to be speaking for the entire BBC panel when he said, “Our knowledge of these two teams is limited.” Limited! What the former England striker was saying was that he hadn’t done his homework, that he hadn’t spoken to any of his vast array of contacts in the game, hadn’t tapped into the BBC’s huge research machinery, hadn’t even bothered, seemingly, to peruse the internet for some background on Algeria and Slovenia or even flick through a newspaper or a magazine. Shearer was content to sit in front of the cameras and tell the viewers that, really, he didn’t know much. Hardly a revelation to those of us who have groaned our way through his anodyne commentaries in the past, but embarrassing all the same.
Why do the BBC deem that acceptable? Why is Shearer not taken aside and told, ‘Listen, if you can’t be bothered doing some research on this game then get lost’. It’s a different, and entirely more professional story, on radio where the wonderful 5 Live and, closer to home, the award-winning Radio Scotland present their football coverage in a proper fashion. How does Shearer (but not just Shearer) get away with opting out like that?
And here’s another one. The Beeb got carpeted by some viewers for their treatment of that Algeria game. So what happened before the kick-off in yesterday’s lunch-time match between New Zealand and Slovakia? In a six-and-a-half minute introduction just one player out of the 22 on show was given a name-check, and here is how it happened.
Lee Dixon: “Slovakia have got some decent players, Hamsik, the pick of them. Young player, plays on the left side.”
Gary Lineker: “He’s at Napoli.”
Lee Dixon: “That’s right.”
Alan Hansen (chuckling): “Somebody gave you him, by the way.”
What Hansen meant, I think, was that his colleagues must have been fed the Hamsik reference by another party, that they couldn’t have come up with his name all by themselves. It’s not like Dixon or Lineker produced a dossier of facts about Hamsik, a file of information on who he is and where he has been. All they did was mention his name and the fact that he was rather good. That was it. Hansen seemed to think this was worthy of a gently-mocking put-down, as if the other two were some kind of class swots. As such, he was almost revelling in his own ignorance.
There’s a lot of this going about, on BBC and ITV. The level of punditry is cringe-making. It’s lowest common denominator stuff. Patronising and insulting, much of it. Emmanuel Adebayor’s mobile phone started ringing in his pocket live on air the other day. His respect for the viewers didn’t even amount to him making sure the thing was switched off. Edgar Davids has been unintelligible, Gareth Southgate hasn’t said one interesting thing, Kevin Keegan has been nothing more than a cheerleader for England and Andy Townsend has been his usual bland self, trotting out statements of the obvious with a rapid-fire gusto. “I tell you what, for me, he’s gotta hit the target from there!”
And you are paid how much, Andy?
Clarence Seedorf was in the BBC studio the other night for the Italy versus Paraguay match and he was making a point about the positive impact an Italian substitute had made on the game. He was referring to Antonio Di Natale, winner of more than 30 caps for the Azzurri and the leading goalscorer in Serie A in the season just gone, but Seedorf couldn’t remember his name. Hadn’t a clue. Neither did the blokes alongside him, Hansen among them. “He was the No 10,” said a smiling Seedorf, who then reached for a team-sheet on the desk for help before realising that it was the Dutch team-sheet. “That’s no use,” he laughed. Indeed, Clarence.
Hansen thought this was priceless. “That might be highlight of the World Cup so far,” he trumpeted. The programme ended and still nobody had figured out that the No 10 was Di Natale. You would hope that behind the scenes the BBC producers were holding their heads in their hands with embarrassment, but you wouldn’t bank on it. Of course, in the squirm factor stakes there are many challengers. Mick McCarthy claimed just before kick-off in the Argentina versus Nigeria game that he’d only just realised that the Juan Sebastian Veron that appeared on his team-sheet was the same Veron who’d played for Manchester United and Chelsea. Quite a statement of ignorance, that.
In fairness to McCarthy, he does have something to offer in his reading of the game. It’s just that there is so much that makes you wince in between. What we’re getting a lot of from both sides is glib nonsense, crap jokes and crass stereotyping. Adrian Chiles is flavour of the month on ITV, but his popularity is not what it was. It wasn’t his fault that ITV HD pressed the wrong button at the wrong time during England’s opening game and missed Steven Gerrard’s goal, but Chiles has been distinctly unconvincing in the anchor role. He wants to be the funny man when the job demands gravitas. He wants to throw in one-liners when he should be attempting to spearhead a proper discussion about a match.
His introduction to England’s game against the Americans was mortifying. Wielding a baseball bat and sending a message to America, he said, “Just stick to your sports, why don’t you?” Chiles was also seen patting a burger, adding: “We really love Americans, just wouldn’t eat a whole one.” He made himself look like a clown.
Keegan’s summing-up: “It was a very, very good performance, good enough to win any game.” This classic piece of Keegan claptrap should have been jumped upon and ripped apart for the nonsensical garbage that it was, but it sailed through pretty much. Chiles doesn’t do confrontation – neither does the BBC – and it’s a terrible weakness. There is no edge, no passion. It’s all so bloody harmless and dull.
ITV needed somebody with a backbone to turn around to Keegan and say to him, ‘Okay Kevin, what you’re saying there is a load of junk. Explain how getting a draw against a team of journeymen like America is very good, explain the selection of James Milner out of position, explain why the rank ordinary Shaun Wright-Phillips was brought on instead of the classy Joe Cole, explain the failure of Gerrard and Frank Lampard to function together yet again, explain why this negated Wayne Rooney’s impact’. Kev didn’t do any of that, though.
There are many days ahead when our intelligence will be insulted by “expert analysts” who speak to us like simpletons who’ve just staggered home from the pub. We could do a lot worse than hitting the mute button from here on in. Or getting the commentary off the radio
Moisty epitomises to the nth. degree the worst that humanity has to offer.
Bigoted,racist,thick sociopath.
kitalba
How much did they cheat European clubs?
This question is important. UEFA will be right on top of this one. More than anything this will contribute to the Hun downfall.
Murray’s obssession with Europe cost them their club!
Will they have any sympathy across Europe?
I doubt it with the sacking of some beautiful cities and towns still fresh in people’s minds. Outwith our shores not many will cry if this club die.
LB
RanchoFranco on 25 April, 2012 at 10:48 said:
I laughed out loud at that, good one!
HH
Did i really read that article that is under the pen-name of Leckie???
surely not!
is he the first one trying to distance himself from the huns after all those years of bile he spouted???
fat useless waster…….and no i dont mean TTTT ;-)
HAIL! HAIL!
new article posted.
A new happy smiley census
http://i.imgur.com/yB5LD.jpg
5 star & Rfc Tattoo removal
http://i.imgur.com/AnOTM.jpg
HH
Brimmer
Know what you mean but, of late, for me it has to be:
1. Novo (nasty and no cultural background to use in mitigation)
2. Naismith (just a horrible little hun)
3. Bougherra (thought he was clever but anywhere else he would have been vilified as the thug he was)
4. Lafferty (something a bit pathetic about him to prevent a higher ranking)
5. Boyd (most over-rated player ever as his record SPHell proves)
5. Healy (mainly for his shocking tackle on James Forrest which exposed his cultural leanings)
Just missing out, Diouf (no explanation required-I’m sure he was born as a horrible, whingeing baby)
HH