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Hugely important League Cup tie

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We have had games which were hugely important to the club, and to our new manager, some which were ‘must win’ games, which were ultimately lost, but tomorrow’s League Cup tie against Hearts is a must win game for different reasons.

A year ago we lost in this competition to one of the worst teams to win at Celtic Park in the last half century, possibly longer, but thus Hearts side are a Premiership team in all but name and come with the weight of their history behind them to fell Scottish football’s last superpower.

I’ve seen Hearts win at Celtic Park before, there is one particular painful memory as they taunted us while drawing, but Ronny and his new recruits should know, this game ranks above all league matches in order of importance.

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  1. bognorbhoy oscar in my thoughts on

    Celtic, Celtic that’s the team for me,

     

    Celtic, Celtic on to victory,

     

    They’re the finest team in Scotland, I’m sure you will agree,

     

    We’ll never give up till we’ve won the cup and the Scottish football league.

     

     

    They come from bonnie Scotland, they come from county Cork,

     

    They come from dear old Donegal and even from New York,

     

    From every street in Glasgow they proudly make their way,

     

    To a place called dear old paradise and this is what they say.

     

     

    Celtic, Celtic that’s the team for me,

     

    Celtic, Celtic on to victory,

     

    They’re the finest team in Scotland, I’m sure you will agree,

     

    We’ll never give up till we’ve won the cup and the Scottish football league.

     

     

    There’s Fallon, Young and Gemmell who proudly wear the green,

     

    There’s Clark, McNeill and Kennedy the best there’s ever been,

     

    Jim Johnstone, Murdoch, Chalmers, John Divers and John Hughes,

     

    And sixty thousand Celtic fans who proudly shout the news.

     

     

    Celtic, Celtic that’s the team for me,

     

    Celtic, Celtic on to victory,

     

    They’re the finest team in Scotland, I’m sure you will agree,

     

    We’ll never give up till we’ve won the cup and the Scottish football league

     

     

    RIP JOHN DIVERS

  2. The Honest Cover-up on

    proudbhoy

     

    From what I’ve seen it seems to be the ramblings of paranoid conspiracy theorists.

     

    One of their gripes is that there was no unique identifying number on each ballot paper. Therefore it stinks that the press could know what proportion of each age group voted. I don’t think they realise this information was collected by a poll.

     

    Two fire alarms at Dundee is poor form but the vote was won by nearly 500,000. Every poll bar one predicted a No win. The bookies paid out early on a No win such was there confidence in a (narrow) No vote.

     

    I think disappointed Yes votes should concentrate on a plan of action to win next time or to ensure Devo Max promises are upheld rather than validating these bizarre conspiracies involving rigged votes and MI5. To be fair, the sensible ones I know are doing that.

  3. GivehimthemoneyPeterCSC on

    Great post Guernica-spot on!

     

     

    I can’t believe how many “supporters” have made a call on new players and manager already….the age of entitlement is fully upon us

     

     

    Lennys recent point on footballers being allowed to eat what they want will have done nothing for his job prospects…there’s probably a reason we haven’t been able to keep a decent tempo for the whole game in the last few years

     

     

    keep the faith!

  4. Livibhoy @12.13 hrs.

     

     

    Amazing and inspirational.

     

     

    Totally agree with you @12.34 hrs “take stock and sit and think what is important”

     

     

    I too was in Blackpool over the weekend and I witnessed amazing people with their carers ( Who are also amazing ). Especially one large group from Glasgow and another from Liverpool.

     

     

    I thought at the time this is the real Glasgow, this is the Glasgow I want to portray to the world.

     

     

    Ordinary people doing amazing things, demonstrating hope over adversity.

     

     

    HH and Many thanks for your post

  5. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    I was marginally too young to see John Divers play for Celtic.

     

     

    However…

     

     

    He played for Celtic. And he scored some amount of goals while he lived his dream. The same dream many of us shared.

     

     

    R I P.

  6. As usual I got the last post on the old thread. Slowesttypistoncqncsc. Anyways I pasted and copied this one. Normally I just go away and sulk.

     

     

    Agreed big wavy, I’m not pressing the panic button yet, I am concerned and was concerned from the day the appointment was announced that this was a huge step up for Ronny. I must say I like the guy since he came and I desperately want to see him succeed but whilst individual players have as you say let us down, some of the team selections, set ups and substitutions have been very questionable.

  7. the honest cover-up

     

     

    13:05 on 23 September, 2014

     

     

    Agreed

     

     

    A positive start for YESers would be those who are members of trade unions contacting their local branch and complete a declaration they no longer wish to make contributions to the Labour Party through the political levy

  8. Deeply saddened by the passing of John Divers, terrific player & the best ball winner I have ever seen in situations where a ruck of players were all trying to get the ball at the same time. Don’t think I EVER saw him lose one of those battles.

     

    Fond memories of running into John in his late teenage years when himself, Mike Jackson & John Colrain RIP would attend an occasional party in the Clydebank area.

     

    Quiet, intelligent & dignified man &, like his father before him, a truly great Celt.

     

     

    Rest In Peace, Johnny.

  9. Corkcelt

     

     

    Couldn’t disagree with any of that mate.

     

     

    I’m finding my own posts about Ronny at the moment as inconsistent as his team selections :)

  10. While I fully agree with several other posters about debatable line-ups, poor substitutions etc…..we must also remember that this was also the case with the previous encumbment.

     

    Someone who really SHOULD know better, who knew the Scottish game, players etc.

     

     

    Yet I recall getting humped at Tynecastle as we played an obviously lightweight midfield in what is always a tough encounter. Even under O’Neill we would make wholesale changes at times with the result that players coming in were thrown into the deep end after weeks of inactivity.

     

     

    Ronny should concentrate on a core of players (14-15) who DO have the attributes to play to the style he wants to pursue. It is then up to the others to sharpen up or move on.

     

     

    No messing about tomorrow, get the ‘A’ team on the park, ensure a high tempo from the off and keep the pressure on for the full 90 mins. Any slackers haul them off – don’t sit and wait for the half time whistle. It’s Ronny’s way or the exit door, time to show them who is boss.

  11. Just sat with a few of my English colleagues watching BBC News over lunch and they were all impressed by the efforts made to supply foodbanks by the people of Glasgow.

     

     

    I said that it was pretty typical of Glasgow (and Scotland), but also asked them why we needed foodbanks in the first place. They just nodded.

     

     

    On the footy, I believe Hearts will be a tough game but that Celtic will edge it.

     

     

    Scepovic to score…if someone manages to cross the ball.

  12. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    BIGWAVY

     

     

    We all want RD to succeed. Some,nevertheless,can’t see it happening.

     

     

    Each to their own.

     

     

    It’s never easy supporting a new manager in troubling times. Particularly when his selections and tactics are somewhat confusing.

     

     

    He gets my vote at the moment-and for a good time to come,btw-but he needs to settle on a first-choice eleven.

     

     

    Sometimes it looks like he draws names out of a hat!

     

     

    As an aside,he should ditch COLLINS and bring in someone that he can trust.

  13. I am a bit surprised to see John Divers being referred to as a nearly man.

     

     

    Nearly men don’t score over 100 goals for Celtic.

  14. bournesouprecipe – congratulations on your podium!

     

     

    I’m too young to have seen John Divers play, but I’d heard of him from older bhoys.

     

     

    I’m sorry to hear of his passing. As part of the Celtic story, he will never be forgotten. (thumbsup)

  15. Results so far are likely to have an adverse effect on confidence. Constantly undermining the Manager and the players will certainly not help the situation. I do not know if RD and the players read Celtic blogs but even if they do not, negative posts help create a hostile atmosphere at games. Is that what we really want?

     

    I don`t know if RD is going to get it right or not. I do know that we, as a support, are not as supportive as we could be. I am not saying criticism is not allowed. I am saying keep it in perspective and balance it with positives. If you cannot find any of the latter, there is no hope.

     

     

    JJ

  16. As a “superpower” we underperform even more so than the United Kingdom.

     

     

    We need to stop thinking we can lord it over the other teams in Scotland, and start respecting them and *working* to defeat them …

  17. Mr X loves having a "fly kick" on

    John Divers, a man whom I had the privilege of his teachings at St Patrick’s High in Dumbarton in the 80s.

     

     

    The man inspired me to make a life for myself in the business world – I still have a wonderful hand-written reference he wrote for me to show potential employers and universities.

     

     

    He was always modest & indeed reticent to be drawn on his considerable goal-scoring exploits for Celtic.

     

     

    I shall cherish his memory. God rest his soul.

  18. Greenpinata

     

     

    I was down for the day last Wednesday with my auntie and uncle. We were staying in Bolton for a few days after a few days in a caravan in Yorkshire.

     

     

    RIP John Divers

     

     

    One of my fathers early Celtic heroes. I’m sure he was taught at primary school by John’s sister. I will need to check that though.

     

    Just text him the sad news. I know he will be gutted.

     

     

    LB

  19. davidopoulos – asked them why we needed foodbanks in the first place

     

     

    Largely it’s because the bureaucracy of the benefits system moves slowly. People find themselves in a bind because their benefits payments are delayed, so food banks. (thumbsup)

  20. Agree with that Bobby

     

     

    In the settled piece I think he’s been unlucky. I wrote yesterday he’s had to contend with Brown and Forrests injury, an unsettled defensive line in no right backs and an out of sorts Izzy and Ambrose. Johannsson is off form big time and he’s had no settled top 3 yet.

     

     

    No excuses for some baffling stuff from him but I hope he gets the time to pull his team together and run with them over a period of weeks and months.

     

     

    No idea what Collins does too…

  21. Hoping for a match played at a high tempo tomorrow from the start,keeping the ball in the final third with crisp quick passing and for goodness sake SOME MOVEMENT OFF THE BALL!! Then on the hopefully odd occasion that the jambos have the ball we hunt in packs and close them down in their half.

     

     

    All going well we get an early goal and maintain the pressure going in at half time at least 2 goals to the good,its not much to ask is it?

     

     

    Oh and Stokes is nowhere near the starting line up.

     

     

    Anyone any idea when Lustig is due back?

  22. philvisreturns

     

     

    13:33 on 23 September, 2014

     

     

    davidopoulos – asked them why we needed foodbanks in the first place

     

     

    Largely it’s because the bureaucracy of the benefits system moves slowly. People find themselves in a bind because their benefits payments are delayed, so food banks. (thumbsup)

     

     

    ———————————————————-

     

     

    It’s good, but it’s not right…

  23. Wonder if the win bonuses, for manager and players, for the cups are lower and that might explain the poor performances over the years. Prize money will be lower than the league, so not sure cups are a priority in any sense other than experimentation and perhaps building a bit of confidence. Would expect a win against lower leage opposition in any case.

  24. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    KILBOWIEKELT

     

     

    Correct.

     

     

    100 goals-especially when he scored them!-makes him a legend.

     

     

    Without his goals,Jock might well have had to get us a promotion before he could set us on the path to glory.

  25. greendreamz

     

    13:08 on

     

    23 September, 2014

     

    Remind us again what Euro competition the League Cup Winners get an automatic shoo-in for?

     

    It is part of the Treble and a competitive tournament,if we don’t want to win it,why take part in it? We play to win games and trophies,it adds to your history,and at this stage it’s vital the manager gets a result IMO.HH

  26. The Honest Cover-Up

     

     

    I hate to get into the Independence debate again but.

     

     

    When were the electorate of Scotland offered Devo Max? Do you know what Devo Max is? And are you currently watching as all sides of The Vow of unmentioned, unsubstantiated promises ring their hands of their Vow on a daily basis since approx. 4 hours after the result came in and David Cameron sttod on his platform outside Downing Street.

     

     

     

    Fool you once. Yeah! You get it!

     

     

    MWD sais AYE

  27. a wee bit worried about the Hearts game, they will be fired up for it big time & we never seem to get fired up for the league cup.

  28. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    JJ, I don’t know if players read blogs or not so have no idea if it creates a positive or negative impact on them.

     

     

    More worrying was the booing at the game on Sunday. It was very loud at half time and a bit more muted at full time, probably because a lot of the booing support were already on their way home.

     

     

    Now that cant be good for the players and certainly doesn’t fit with the word “support”.

  29. davidopoulos – According to the Trussell Trust the largest single contributor to demand for the services of food banks is benefits delays:

     

     

    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/oct/16/charity-inquiry-food-bank-use-triples

     

     

    Delays in the payment of benefits resulted in 117,442 people (35%) being referred between April and the end of September, compared with 35,597 (33%) in the same period in 2012-13

     

     

    So if the civil service got its finger out, the need for food banks would be reduced by a third. That’s what I’d call low hanging fruit.

     

     

    (thumbsup)

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