The opening goal at yesterday’s Hibs-Newco game was a mirror of the chance James Forrest scored in the first semi-final a day earlier. Both goals had to be snatched at waist height, presenting a challenge to keep the ball down. With the score at 3-1, Newco’s Connor Goldson had a similar opportunity, if only he had the same hunger as Forrest or Boyle, the result may have been different.
After the game, the despondent Newco vice-captain questioned the hunger his side had shown all season. I have sympathy for the player, he was frustrated and trying to make sense of a decline he is unable to arrest. Is it really hunger, though?
I’ve played in teams a million levels below the Scottish professional game where no amount of hunger could lift my team. No one wants to lose, ever, it does not happen, but it takes a huge amount of symbiosis to transform a losing side. You cannot just want this phenomenon into existence.
I’ve heard countless fans, as well as professional players including some at Celtic, complain about the attitude of others in the team. No one has ever said, “I’m not really up for it today”, it’s always someone else who has the problem.
What Connor Goldson has detected is not a lack of hunger, he was talking about Newco, one trophy in their history, no one is full after the first course. It is more subtle than that.
The club had no money to invigorate the squad in the summer. A third of them are in their mid to late 30s, another third are in the final 18 months of their contracts and have not been presented with an acceptable extension that would settle their futures, while at least half of them were not very good to begin with.
What Goldson attributes as a lack of hunger is a manifestation of poorly addressed structural problems – he would have been far better explaining the problems in this manner. His new manager is now cursed with the responsibility of banging his fist on tables and shouting lots to ‘get them hungry’. It’s bullocks, a remnant of the 70s, as relevant to the game today as the Gullane Dunes are to sports science.
It is a challenge, but football clubs need to lose with some perspective, even accept that losing may be a likely outcome before returning to a successful plan. Screechy demands for fight and hunger are for losers who will never consistently escape that state. It is for others to decide whether we achieved this since losing became likely last season, next month’s #Tooraloo Final will prove informative.
#Tooraloo.
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CELTIC40ME
What is it about negative people that pisses positive people off so much?🤣😂😅
The huns have seriously overplayed their hand with the Morellos fella, believing Dembele set the market rate for successful Scottish strikers was a serious miscalculation.
If indeed Lille were hovering around £15m and that’s a big if, thy should have snapped their hands off.
Now..a good offer would be sub £5m, probably nearer £3m .
After Morellos,who can they punt? Hagi? Kamara,possibley Kent..£10m for all three?
KINGLUBO on 22ND NOVEMBER 2021 3:07 PM
What happened!!!! The poor bugger of a ref yesterday. Had the nerve to award a penalty against the ludge, how dare he indeed.
KINGLUBO, I was watching thems highlights last night when Boyle was flattened in the box. Not knowing that he had in fact awarded a penalty kick against them, I mused loudly “Typical Clancy, bottled it” (or words to that effect, ahem cough) only to then witness him actually pointing to the spot (although slightly delayed decision, to be fair).
Is this another indication that things are changing?
Paul has just contradicted everything that JHB has been saying about how Celtic should be copying the business model at Sevco – now I just don’t know who to believe!
https://twitter.com/ufob0t/status/1462839837610979330?s=20
Not heard of this scary dood before!
Are “bots” just another name for “trolls” or the other way round?
Internet is such a big and varied place, but it makes you think in ways that the MSMasonicSwamp would rather you didn’t and, just fell into line with their payed piper baloony stuff!
!!BADA BING!! on 22ND NOVEMBER 2021 5:43 PM
Hibs refused 50/50 split for Cup Final tickets, they getting 17,500
Do Hibs nit have a track record of asking for tickets and not filling their end
BACK TO BASICS – GLASS HALF FULL on 22ND NOVEMBER 2021 2:59 PM
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Many well -made points.
Those among us waiting for Ibrox to ‘crash & burn” any time soon, a la 2012, will be disappointed – it is just not going to happen. Their financial profile may be one that neither Celtic nor for that matter any Scottish club would choose, but it is totally different to the converging, colliding & catastrophic circumstances of 2011/2012.
The 2008 global financial crash had a direct bearing on the fate of Murray’s Rangers FC, however Covid, bad as it is, has not stopped the new club in it’s tracks.
You make an astute observation – “Clubs without structural capacity can have their moment in the sun.” Ibrox has had a fleeting sun -kissed moment in taking last season’s title – however it needed CL qualification to underpin and propel it forward. For bragging rights last season’s title was important to them – this season’s title & automatic CL qualification is existential.
The only belief should come from thon fella who was nailed to a cross for all of our sakes, and he won’t be found sitting on a golden throne in a multi ££££ million marble castle.
His name was, Jesus.
In reference to all of the, in our faces, deceit and lies, right in front of our eyes, Jesus said,
“You have eye’s,…..but you cannot see.”
Folk who wear purple regalia, ties, dresses, etc, black & white mason regalia, yellow & black illuminati hive mind regalia, or black & red clad eastern star witches on “Not” the news, look into your eyes, and lie to you.
Sinn Fein leaders dress in the regalia and colour schemes of the swamp, and only last week they voted for a,
“Papers Please” swamp environment in the six counties, whilst DUP, rebelled against the introduction of such a swamp environment!!!!
Makes you think eh!
Did Jesus not tell us that this was going to happen?
Bad will be good
Good will be bad
Lies will be truths
Truths will be lies
Girls will be boys
Boys will be girls
Black will be white
White will be black
and so much more.
Or, was it one of those corrupted yins who wrote awe the bibles?
Confused CSC
I popped in and I’ll pop out again,
The Clyde phone in is good tonight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoIy4tcHMFc
On to another Treble Celtic.
Bayer away is a tall ask @ this Time in Ange’s tenure….. I think we will get the draw needed.
SCULLYBHOY on 22ND NOVEMBER 2021 5:59 PM
Paul has just contradicted everything that JHB has been saying about how Celtic should be copying the business model at Sevco – now I just don’t know who to believe!
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That would fit nicely on your sandwich-boards the next time you are on-shift outside Celtic Park.
good
Sorry, good stuff, as usual, JHB. 👍
JHB on 22ND NOVEMBER 2021 6:03 PM
“Those among us waiting for Ibrox to ‘crash & burn” any time soon, a la 2012, will be disappointed – it is just not going to happen”
“For bragging rights last season’s title was important to them – this season’s title & automatic CL qualification is existential.”
Those are two contradictory statements.
Did the circumstances change halfway through you typing?
JHB on 22nd November 2021 6:37 pm
SCULLYBHOY on 22ND NOVEMBER 2021 5:59 PM
Paul has just contradicted everything that JHB has been saying about how Celtic should be copying the business model at Sevco – now I just don’t know who to believe!
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That would fit nicely on your sandwich-boards the next time you are on-shift outside Celtic Park.
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One thing for sure, be it night time or day time shift, I wouldn’t expect to bump into your good self.
HH
its hard to imagine that both laurie and alex rae come from denniston.
two completely different languages.
if we thingmy , get knocked out the ruopa and go into the other confrince wan, then its still brings demands that irnae the same as they wur before.
Petec
Hopefully Ange wisens up in Europe, a cynic would say that he’s already cost us £40 million this season due to CLQ failure, Ange ball in Europe is asking for his a*se on a plate.
I would say that, parking the bus and blootiring it, has brought our best recent results in Europe, through MON, and NFL the first time, WGS deployed that thinking, (sometimes), and he got his best European results playing that way, then his wee man syndrome defiant ego would get the better of him, and he’d try to be a wee smart a*se, which would then see him, but more importantly, Celtic supporters, being handed their a*ses, because of an ego tripping PLC puppet a*sehole of a manager.
HH Petec ✋
Aliens: “Take us to your leader.”
Humans: “No… you’ll laugh at us.”
Park the bus,
As SG was want to say “thats on me”!
I hope the Legend KevJ returns, philvis like.
We need to just concentrate on making Celtic Exceptional – as good as can be in Europe.
And really Hump these Huns on the 2nd of January.
https://twitter.com/fitbaculture/status/1462529469969747976?s=20
Livorno lads.
Petec
Absolutely amigo! 👍
I love this picture,
now, who is the other ballbhoy ? anyone know who he was ?
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Lisbon Lion
@tirnaog_09
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Bhoy to man, Jimmy’s association with Celtic as player , fan and ball boy was a lifelong one.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEn6vGrX0AMciDd?format=jpg&name=small
Park the bus > blootir it > simple on 22nd November 2021 7:11 pm
Aliens: “Take us to your leader.”
Humans: “No… you’ll laugh at us.”
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PTB – As Suzy would DAVIE HAY.
8 out of 10 contestants are guid, Suzies knowledge is OH Mega.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GphYmmAe-RQ
Tontine Tim is Blessed with an Incredible memory,
Rumour is Celtic Christmas video out tomorrow, Jota signs a 3 year contract in it….😃🤞🤞
https://twitter.com/HereCelts/status/1462831933348585482?t=N6Vy0yz_vbPFSYPH_pXjSQ&s=19
Make it happen Celtic
Take us to your Anagram…. Dealer.
vg read
‘As we trotted back Haynes was giving as good as he got, ‘I’ll get you the next time you little Scottish bastard.’ I snapped as we reached the centre circle and thought it would be a good idea to give him a dull one. I whacked him. Our pitch was hard as flint and he went down like a sack of spuds. His head thudded off the surface and he just lay there.’
Bertie was sent off and as he trotted from the field, Fulham’s hulking centre half Maurice Cooke approached him to extract some revenge. To the astonishment of all, the little Scot clocked him too and left him on his back on the turf.
http://tirnaog09.blogspot.com/2021/
Big Man – Jota is something Special.
I’d love it in a Kevin Keegan style if Ange won the league. Seems like a sound guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPH89zMxp6Q&t=1s
I got this on the HB.
Jota Michael ,
I dont think he can sign on until an actual transfer window.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1462813501907423236
SS- wishful thinking on my part,but maybe the 2 clubs could rip up the loan deal and make it permanent, not sure how Benfica are doing financially, but maybe they could be doing with money in January 🤞🤞
CELTIC40ME on 22ND NOVEMBER 2021 6:43 PM
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Timing is the context, old sport!!!
unique angle james
https://twitter.com/i/status/1462705222900408320
SAINT STIVS
“I love this picture,
now, who is the other ballbhoy ? anyone know who he was ?”
I’ve seen this pic before, while researching a Celtic Quiz. For the life of me, I can’t remember who it is, and it is annoying the heck out of me. Hopefully, Tontine Tim can come through with the answer.
SAINT STIVS
“unique angle james
https://twitter.com/i/status/1462705222900408320”
The second clip, all 3 seconds of it, is an absolute hoot.😊
SAINT STIVS on 22ND NOVEMBER 2021 6:52 PM
its hard to imagine that both laurie and alex rae come from denniston.
two completely different languages.
if we thingmy , get knocked out the ruopa and go into the other confrince wan, then its still brings demands that irnae the same as they wur before.
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Is auld Keevins still on the phone in?
Remember yon Kev J used to phone him in saying,…
“Mark McGhee of Motherwell should be Celtic’s manager, “NOT”, Tony Mowbray who isn’t streetwise enough to negotiate his way through the West of Scotland dynamics!”
and
“Celtic should’ve kept Macari as manager and allowed Luigi to get rid of,
Boyd
Bonner
Grant
McStay
Nicholas
and others, who formed a clique in the dressing room to bring down Luigi, effectively stabbing Luigi in the back, because they couldn’t handle it when Luigi booted their backsides for not listening to, or disobeying instructions, ie: trying to be wideos, acting like unknowing dafties, all to get the cliques favoured manager in from Kilmarnock, ie: the late TB(RIP) and get Macari out, and this sabotage by these mentioned players, who have collectively, denied Celtic supporters 3 league titles in all of that wasted time, effectively handing Rangers 9 in a row!”
Auld Keevins was having none of it.
HK said, “I’ve personally known Tommy, and a lot of the players that you’ve mentioned, Kevin, it is of course your prerogative to have viewed things in the way that you have done, it might make people view that period of time, through your eye’s, Kevin, and indeed review their own analysis of that particular troubled period in Celtic’s history, but, I, Hughie Keevins, will have to profoundly disagree with you, Kevin, but it certainly is one of those calls that might make your fellow Celtic supporters, think about that episode in the way that, Kevin, has done, seeing it through your eye’s, Kevin, but again, I profoundly, disagree with, Kevin!”
….who to believe?
Jota !!!!!!
https://celtic.vitalfootball.co.uk/oh-my-days-listen-to-clyde-1-pundits-incredible-reaction-to-jotas-piece-of-magic-as-one-of-them-criticised-the-move/
SSB winkers!
Mark (geez ma soup) Wilson!