Our man on the inside, Charlie Green, seems to have upset a few people over the weekend. Charlie was playing to the gallery with his “bigotry” comment; it is not credible that the 35 clubs who voted against providing Sevco access to an elevated league are demographic significantly different from those of Rangers (1872/3). Although, there is a good chance that each of those 35 clubs will have a more mixed profile than the former club.
Green is still fending off interest from people with far greater pull with the Rangers (1872/3) support than he has (genuinely hope he succeeds here). He needs to sell tens of thousands of tickets to prevent his new club slipping into the hands of one of the other consortiums still trying to buy a piece of the action. I always caution Celtic from playing to the gallery, it delivers short term populism but is surely the alternative to a strategic plan. I am sure several clubs will express their alarm at these comments to the SFA.
Unfortunately, since the SFA failed to take action on either of Ally McCoist’s earlier inflammatory outbursts so they can expect more of the same from Green and others.
Attempts are being made to convince thousands of people a bigoted bogeyman has been out to get them. 99% of the target population will do no more than complain loudly but it’s the unpredictable >1% who exist in every community we should be concerned about.
To the best of my knowledge no Scottish club has ever accused others of bigotry, not even during ‘that’ 80 year period. If this is the new acceptable standard, the SFA are welcome to it, but it will be better for all if we go elsewhere to play our football. Our game has been potent for a century but it has now become dangerously unstable.
Let us go now, before this is whipped up any more. Anyone wanting to hold Scottish football together in its current form has a lot of explaining to do.
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Starryplough
It has gone way beyond football and still Salmond and co say nothing, and the SFA too continue to misjjudge the mood of the nation.
Saving Sevco and saving Scottish football are now mutually exclusive, time to cast both adrift.
Barcabhoy
The sheer arrogance is matched only by the sheer stupidity of the man.
What the SFA are saying, and what Greene is condoning is that without the bigot pound Scottish football cannot survive. Only the hate spectacle makes us attractive to the world via TV.
Is this the picture of the Scotish nation Salmond is happy to portray to the world?
There is an international coming along, a total boycott will send out the kind of commercial message the SFA are ready to listen to.
Sorry meant IMPORTANT
I truly pray that there are influential Celtic activists presently planning that our club plays in a different league, should Sevco 1690 ever look like returning to the SPL.
bournesouprecipe 30/07/12
Auldheid
you and I both know that when the huns are crap they support Scotland
HAil Hail
I’m pretty sure dd will have his accountants work out how much the huns’ cheating has cost him.
Together with the jiggery-pokery going on to let them away with murder, not to mention the boy McCoist and the dangerous idiot Green stoking up the fires of hatred and bigotry among them. The time is right to get out of this cesspit.
We must do all we can to get into another league. We have all the evidence and all the valid reasons now. We cant give up our best ever opportunity
TootingTim on 30 July, 2012 at 11:54said:
If I can sort finances then yes.
Bundoran
Fantastic effort from you and CRC, well done Bhoys.
Paul you write:
If this is the new acceptable standard the SFA are welcome to it, but it will be better for all if we go elsewhere to play our football. Our game has been potent for a century but it has now become dangerously unstable.
Let us go now, before this is whipped up any more. Anyone wanting to hold Scottish football together in its current form has a lot of explaining to do.
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A question: Following this debacle if there is no root and branch reform at the SFA and SFL is there anything to stop Celtic and other interested clubs simply posting intent to resign from the SFA, SPL etc going to UEFA/ FIFA and posting intent to form a new FA in Scotland as the current one is no longer fit for purpose.
We cannot be too far away from votes of no confidence in the full time SFA officials.
We now know that Platini et al are no more than empty vessels. Their many words on fairness and rules are not matched by actions. I posted earlier about how it is difficult to differentiate between Sevco and Oldco. It seems that the SFA, MSM etc simply don’t differentiate. The preferential treatment continues. It will come back to bite them – but it would seem it will be non footballing bodies that will do it.
Regan and his pals will not act on Greens outburst, McCoists incitements or the offensive chanting of the Sevco supporters yesterday. I hope the clubs will now find some cajones and collectively address their anger. I also hope that supporters of other clubs will further see what we have seen all along – that the MSM is part of the problem, that the SFA is institutionally biased toward Rangers and now it appears also to favour Sevco Rangers.
We can walk away from the fetid stench of bias in Scottish football or we can help to clean it up. It will be messy but on a point of principal I really hope Celtic don’t ‘do walking away’.
Paul67
Just a thought Greene made his statement at a football match, not on PC to check but did he breach the Offensive Behaviour bill?
I’m sure someone will check.
GIRUY Green!!
Motherwell have described as a “wonderful gesture” Ross County’s offer to pay for fans to make the 370-mile round trip to Dingwall.
Fans travelling to Saturday’s Scottish Premier League opener on official coaches will do so free of charge.
And Motherwell chief executive Leeann Dempster thanked the County board.
“It’s a clear demonstration of football clubs in the SPL working together and showing solidarity in difficult financial times,” she said.
Motherwell face Panathinaikos in the Champions League third qualifying round and travel to Greece four days after their trip to the Highlands.
“It is particularly welcome given the additional costs, travelling and sacrifices ‘Well fans have to make due to the club’s participation in European competition,” Dempster added.
Well said Paul.
Árd Macha
CQN
Anyone going to the game on Wednesday night
From the St Andrews area with a spare seat
Staying at Clayton Park Caravan Park
MT
Hail Hail
They will be desperate to avoid a First Division team… :0)
SEVCO will face another side from the north or east of the country when the draw is made today for the second round of the Ramsdens Cup.
The next phase of the competition is still regionalised and as Sevco replaced Dundee in the first round, they remain in the North/East section.
It will be an open draw today at Ramsdens’ store at the Forge Shopping Centre in Glasgow’s east end at 2pm.
So the clubs Sevco could face are as follows:
ARBROATH
COWDENBEATH
EAST FIFE
FALKIRK
FORFAR ATHLETIC
MONTROSE
RAITH ROVERS
At work….youtube blocked……. is this any good?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFLw9AgChzw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
ASonOfDan on 30 July, 2012 at 12:05 said:
Absolutely brilliant idea from the Staggies!
Very positive, can see this idea being copied.
Vaultbhoy
I would like to think that should PL ever approach the English FA and request an admission into their league, it would be accepted – certainly if that approach was right now. Especially if we were happy to start at the bottom of the english leagues. I also think the spl would accept us going as long as we agreed to provide parachute payments – the spl clubs would have no choice especially if their financial status is as bad as doncaster claims, and the thought of champions league possibilities while sevco are down in the lower divisions might also stimulate competition in scotland once more. However if we wait until sevco are back in the top division – all bets are off.
wonkyradar on 30 July, 2012 at 11:04 said:
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Dontcha know? There ain’t no sanity clause!
: > )
HH!
HJK have in their previous five domestic games drawn 2, lost 2 and won 1. Saturday saw them lose 1-0 away to Honka in front of 4015 people, receving 6 bookings and 2 red cards. their average home gate is around 4500. Thinking that considering whats at stake,we should give this lot a doing, 16 games into their league or not.
Hail Hail
GS
TootingTim, I’m planning on going , with ma bhoy. Just the day trip though , the official trip , at £805 per head, is a bit too steep.
Well done and welcome to the SPL Ross County!
Meet the NewCo, same as the OldCo.
Though with Charles “as an outsider looking in…er although I am now an insider” Green leading the hordes, what do you expect?
El Mad
wontgetfooledagainCSC
Hope they draw Falkirk at Falkirk
Gerrys son
We need to make it count on Wednesday and have a 3 goal advantage going into the away leg.
Imagine the bile and abuse levels if Sevco get drawn against Raith Rovers – esp at Ipox.
Poor old Turnbull Hutton does not deserve this.
Paul67,
You seem to be doing alot of ground softening these days. Apologies if I am imputing motives to your posts that do no exist, but are you hinting at a possible announcement from the board on our withdrawal to a different playing environment, or are your recent posts simply indicative of some blue sky thinking on your part?
Celtic_Cross on 30 July, 2012 at 12:15 said:
TootingTim, I’m planning on going , with ma bhoy. Just the day trip though , the official trip , at £805 per head, is a bit too steep.
How much is the day trip coming in at and does it include match ticket ?
I honestly believe that the SFA WILL NOT under any circumstances put the knife into sevco. The reason for this is not their love of Rangers not their hatred of Celtic but an interest in their own personal freedom. Now the SFA know this and they know that we know it. So all we will ever see from them as has been proven since Murray sold Rangers is extreme prevarication. The corrupt house of cards That is the SFA possibly SPL & SFL is still standing. The day that the SFA make any meaningful decision is the day that all the dirt involved with those SFA officials that make the decision comes out into the open.
I am 100% convinced we are about to see a re run of last season but only on a smaller scale. Sevco in SFL3 rather than Rangers in Europe and competing in the SPL.
The only way this can be avoided is for the non footballing authorities to get their act together and act. The problems is the Scottish authorities especially the SNP government have jumped into bed with Murray before the last election. There is also the backdrop of the independence referendum.
So the powers that be are quite prepared for this farce to run and run.
Nobody will be enjoying what is happening and even more so WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN more than Sir David Murray.
Once Green Hornet starts to unravel then the extent of the corruption will be truly breathtaking and Scottish football will take an awful kicking from those with no interest in football.
What we are witnessing is a holding position engineered by those in power.
It is a waiting game.
I am convinced that UEFA are aware of this also.
We need to be very well positioned for when the proverbial coo dung hits the ventilator and I believe that we are.
Say nothing Celtic.
Keep the faith fellow tims .. especially those like myself that are spitting tacks with regards groundhog transfer window and the likelihood of a hurriedly arranged loan for ageing SPL star at the end of the current transfer window.
Get down to Celtic Park for Wednesday the best day of the week in Glasgow this week… make it a sell out and sing your hearts out.
We are Scottish football.
Those days are over .. this is just the beginning
WE HAVEN`T EVEN FU**ING STARTED YET WATCHING YOUR ABJECT SURRENDER THAT HAS GOT TO BE THE MESSAGE TO GET OVER
Let the whole country know that we know that they are going DOWN
StrangewaysThereYouGoCSC
An 11-year-old girl is slammed for singing the worst USA national anthem ever (DC United v LA Galaxy)
A sweet, blonde 11-year-old girl, Harper Gruzins has found herself coming under a barrage of criticism following a horrible rendition of the USA national anthem over the weekend in the MLS.
The little Texan lass attracted a shedload of abuse after she mangled the Star-Spangled Banner in front of a live stadium and TV audience.
Unfortunately for Gruzins, her decision to warble the national anthem with long, drawn out notes and pauses went down like a lead balloon, and the budding singer/songwriter has now grabbed the limelight for all the wrong reasons.
Whether it’s fair play to attack the kid is now a discussion being had by many US blogs and websites, with many quick to point out that Harper Gruzins unfortunately has set herself up for a fall by having a custom website that boasts: Harper’s captivating performances, soulful voice, and ability to write good music will eventually land her next in line to superstardom!
Why all the hoo-ha about Charlie boy’s comments?
He said: “Some of it has been driven by bigotry, some of its been driven by jealousy and some of its been driven by all the wrong motives.”
I would argue that bigotry was indeed a significant factor in the considerations of the ten clubs who voted against admitting Sevco (aka Rangers in all but debt situation) into the SPL. They all decided that they were fed up with having to tolerate the bigoted hordes who attach themselves to that institution and thought to themselves “this is a perfect opportunity to rid the SPL of bigotry for at least three seasons… so let’s do it”.
And every time Sally or Charlie open their mouths they simply reinforce how correct that decision actually was.
The most important thing on Wed is not to lose a daft or indeed any goals. 2-0 will see us through I’d even be happy with 1-0.
Incredibly hot here in Sicily and we still have Augusto to look forward too!!
Lets stop all this talk about applying for the English Leagues
Let’s get right back to our roots and apply for the Airtricity League
ASonOfDan on 30 July, 2012 at 12:05 said:
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I’m warming to Ross County. Seem to be a well run imaginiative, forward thinking club. It could catch on.
So glad we avoided this nugget.
Erik Huseklepp has made the switch from Portsmouth back to former club SK Brann to leave the club with just four senior professionals on its books.
The winger, who made 28 appearances for Pompey after signing from Bari last northern summer, has signed a four-and-a-half-year deal. It means Liam Lawrence, Tal Ben Haim, Dave Kitson and Kanu are the only senior pros remaining at Fratton Park.
Norway international Huseklepp scored six goals for the south coast club before joining Birmingham City on loan when financial troubles engulfed Portsmouth.
Pompey boss Michael Appleton told the club’s official website: “Erik was a regular in the side before the situation changed dramatically here and he had to go out on loan. He was unlucky because after playing regularly for us things didn’t quite work out for him at Birmingham.
“I think Erik feels going back to play in Norway will be best for his international career and we wish him all the best.”
gerryguk7 on 30 July, 2012 at 12:20 said:
Paul67,
You seem to be doing alot of ground softening these days. Apologies if I am imputing motives to your posts that do no exist, but are you hinting at a possible announcement from the board on our withdrawal to a different playing environment, or are your recent posts simply indicative of some blue sky thinking on your part?
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2010 Never Again
I don’t think it’s anything to do with blue skies
Meanwhile in a parallel universe (somewhere on the South Side of Glasgow)
This is what the supporters of an ex football club think……..
Green confirmed in his “soon to be infamous” bigotry interview that he has spoken with UEFA and they find the SFA and SPL’s actions unprecedented.
Hopefully this means he has gone over their heads right to UEFA and made his case regarding the way they are wrecking scottish football in their zeal to kill us off.
It sends out a few messages:
We aren’t going to sit and take it any more.
UEFA are now looking in on events and may be called upon if we get any more crap from the SFA.
The last thing the SFA and SPL need is to have their scheming, blackmailing and extortion being highlight outside scotland.
Especially not to the higher authorities.
Green getting UEFA into this may be the best thing he’s done yet.
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Did some one on here once refer to these people as “Stupid Stupid Huns” Hmmm I wonder why
Gerryguk7/Imatim, what is blue sky?
HT, Celtic_cross,
hope to see you both there. Thanks to a poster on here who alerted me to the Ryanair flight from Stansted to Tampere I managed to book flights at a reasonable cost.
I was in Tallinn in Jan, and found prices weren’t far off Tooting levels.
And Finns get the ferry over from Helsinki to have a cheap night out in Tallinn!
Every euro will be a prisoner for me…
HelsinkiCliqueCSC
What is
you missed out another “stupid” I think!