Sir David Murray, Campbell Ogilvie, Dave King, as directors of a football club, you presided over tax evasion. While ordinary men and women have no choice, or criminal urge, to avoid paying for public services, you directed a deception on an industrial scale.
Sir David Murray and Campbell Ogilvie have their influence and signatures all over this act. The SFA was quick to discipline and sine die Craig Whyte after he was out of the game, it must now charge Murray and Ogilvie with bringing the game into disrepute. The stale influence of cronyism at Hampden must be routed and seen to be so.
The SPFL instructed an inquiry three years ago but with this verdict in, the SFA must appoint their own inquiry.
Why did the processes at Hampden allow this to happen and continue without check?
Why did Rangers get their European licence in 2011 despite being in arrears to HMRC, in contravention of that licence? Who was responsible for this decision?
Why was a director and signatory of Rangers illegal tax schemes elected and reappointed president of the SFA?
How transparent were the SFA and the SPL in their handling of these tax evasion charges?
Was the SPL inquiry commissioned to uncover the facts, or to meet a desired objective? Who prepared the inquiry remit and who signed off on that remit?
Lord Nimmo Smith found that legally executed Employee Benefit Trusts did not confer a significant sporting advantage. In light of what I have already read of the verdict, we must now discover if such widespread illegal Employee Benefit Trusts conferred a sporting advantage. This question has not been asked yet.
It’s time for football to shake off the shackles of corruption in Scotland, as elsewhere.
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Still early over here so catching up…
But – HMRC win the Big Tax Case Appeal
Now – Newco reveal annual losses of 7.5 million but Glibby says things are going well
John James called this yesterday. Said that today would be a good day for the new PR desk at the Asbestos Dome to bury bad news.
Instead it just made it a great day.
May – Hearts deny the new Rangers promotion.
Sunday – Hibs beat the new Rangers
Today – The Court of Session finds against the old Rangers.
What has gone wrong with the Edinburgh Establishment?
Thanks for that correction Mr Plissken.
Yes Rangers are the World record holders, in cheating every football supporter and club in Scotland well done.
Hail Hail.
Surely a statement soon from Mr Regan??
4 Horses for today
Each way on
Lucky Jim 2.15 Chepstow
Card High Nottingham 4.00
Bitter Virtue Warwick 4.10
Bun Doran 4.20 Chepstow
Card High and Bun Doran are the strongest
Surprised with the verdict from a scottish court -panel-tribunal delete as appropriate ,what happens next is anyone’s guess
Delighted for Phil ,Downfall the sequel must be imminent
Dharma Bam:
He’s quite right on the number, £90,000,000 plus.
I did a blog on it some years ago, with the help of a graphic a Celtic fan site produced, which goes into the full scale of the social consequences of this.
It’s one of the reasons a lot of us simply won’t let up on the issue … I know it drives a lot of our fellow fans mad. But these numbers are real, and the consequences are real.
http://www.onfieldsofgreen.com/more-than-a-sports-story/
I think it’s the biggest scandal in the history of sport. But it’s a social and political scandal too.
STARRY PLOUGH. So you think there will be justice after todays decision ? HMRC will be able to get at least some of the money they were cheated out of ? people will be prosecuted ? Honours they won will be taken away ? I would love to believe it will happen but the man who started this corruption Sir David Murray is still a knight of the realm and has escaped any real blame. I have no confidence that justice will be done.H.H.l
COOLMORE MAFIA on 4TH NOVEMBER 2015 12:17 PM
earn your million Peter and do some work for a change
it would appear that either he’s kidded the rest of the football business community or he’s been doing plenty of work
I wonder if there’s any chance at all that his nomination might cause some of our more supporters to stop and think
On a day when our direct competitors have been found guilty of using a tax evasion scheme, I would have thought that the board would be congratulated for making the hard decision and refusing requests for players to be paid using ebts. Imagine the mess we would be in today if we hadn’t.
Regarding the possibility of titles being stripped from RFC (in liquidation), Paul McConville seemed to think at the time that the decision was binding and final. It was clearly a stitchup, with possibly the SPL’s lawyer being in on it, or at least being misguided –
What if the Upper Tribunal Overturns the FTT Verdict?
A sensible question arising from the Commission decision is as follows.
The Commission based part of its reasoning upon the findings in fact and law of the FTT. What would happen if the Upper Tribunal reversed the FTT verdict?
The answer is simple.
Nothing.
I say that because of a concession made by Mr McKenzie for the SPL at the hearing before the Commission.
Paragraph 104 of the determination includes the following statement:-
The Tax Tribunal has held (subject to appeal) that Oldco was acting within the law in setting up and operating the EBT scheme. The SPL presented no argument to challenge the decision of the majority of the Tax Tribunal and Mr McKenzie stated expressly that for all purposes of this Commission’s Inquiry and Determination the SPL accepted that decision as it stood, without regard to any possible appeal by HMRC. Accordingly we proceed on the basis that the EBT arrangements were lawful.
So, if the Upper Tribunal decides that the FTT majority got it wrong, it will not affect this case. Mr McKenzie has made clear that the Commission decision is based on the case as it stood following the FTT.
A damning verdict at any appeal, if there ever was such an outcome, would not affect this case. The SPL has decided, even though an appeal is pending, to stick with what is present at this point.
Conclusion
What have we learned?
The verdict is binding on the SPL.
They appear to have very little or no chance of appealing and even less willingness to do so.
A favourable verdict in the Upper will be as naught. They have conceded that point.
All this leads me to believe that there will be no more proceedings in this matter.
Posted by Paul McConville
It’s not just the tax dodging that facilitated the Huns cheating. Their incestuous relationship with Masterton and his cronies at the Bank of Scotland, who provided banking facilities to virtually all Scottish Premier clubs, gave the Huns an unfair advantage in the domestic transfer market.
For example the following conversation may have taken place in 1995-
Moonbeams – “Gavin old bean, I hear those uppity tims are trying to sign Gordan Petric, can’t be having that now, tap us a couple of million and whack it onto the Murray group credit card will you?”
Masterton- “why of course your eminence. It’ll be in your account in 20 minutes. By the way, I really shouldn’t say this old chap, but Dundee Utd are quite deep into their overdraft, they won’t be hard to deal with.”
Moonbeams- “I need to gazump these tims on this one so I can give another preening interview to Traynor and the rest of the toenails brigade. Could you fix up a cheeky letter to Utd suggesting a forthcoming review of their overdraft facilities. Soften them up for when I slap in a cheeky wee bid for Petric?”
Masterton- “why of course David, I’ll have one of the chaps issue a letter tout suite. That’ll make McLean bite your hand off for the money! Incidentally, Aberdeen are a bit strapped now too so they could be suggestible if you fancy any of their young Turks……”
Moonbeams- “splendid stuff Gavin, I’ll see you at the next Tory function in the blue room. As you’ve come through for me on this one you can have first shot of the goat. Michael Forsyth will be most disappointed about that but business is business! Toodleloo!”
Hang on, did they play in Europe with those EBT fuelled players ? I said they just cheated Scottish supporters and clubs when in fact they cheated all over Europe for years and years.
Is that another first ?
Well done again Rangers another successful World record first.
Hail Hail.
Ell boy
According to Alex Thomson – hmrc will now pursue the administrators
I imagine the ongoing court action could result in the Assets being divided up between the creditors then punted onto anyone who wants to buy them to recoup the money owed.
Just read back and cannot understand why we are all so happy …….. Hahahahahahaha …….. And for an encore, Mike’s going to put the sevco board behind bars ……. I’m having trouble taking all this in
Thank you……..from the bottom of my heart….
Paul67
Oor Phil
Brogan Rogan
The Battered Bunnet
James Forrest
…and so many others…… OUR DAY HAS COME ….TRUTH AND JUSTICE HAVE PREVAILED …WE CHALLENGED THE LIE, AND WON ………
…..and let me tell you. Our Board kept silent, since they knew this would be the outcome ….. and simply concentrated on managing Celtic …..HAIL HAIL TO ALL CELTIC SUPPORTERS
Fag packet requirement to obtain a Knighthood for services to industry says £1 Billion:
Bank Debt: £650M
Shareholders’ Deficit: £225M
Tax Evasion: £100M
Pension Deficit: £22M
I’m with Bankiebhoy…
SircumcisionCSC
If we’re awarded the titles when we came second behind them..
Wull that mean we’ll huv 6 stars above oor badge ??
Most successful fitba team in the whole wide world etc! :)
One guy I see never gets a mention in all this is Gordon Smith , he was jumping back and forward from Narnia and hampden during that time no?
TBJ ….. (AS PER MY MONIKER)…… YYYYEEEESSSS !!!!
How many EBT players where Internationals ? being improperly registered as a professional football player does that have any consequence at all on International results and the coefficients ?
Hail Hail.
I might have said this before, for I have been known to repeat myself. About LNS, as somebody else said, he must be raging having been made a monkey out of. That surely comes under the offence of murmuring a judge.
I think it was the editor of the Birmingham Post in the early 1900s who called a local judge a wee twerp in horsehair, or something like it. The wee judge was livid, and had the newsman hauled up. The poor old editor had to grovel on his knees before the bench to avoid a lengthy jail term.
Those who misled LNS surely took the juice right out of the old gentleman, making him a laughing stock in his seniority. What would be a fitting sentence for that?
Does wee Nicola know that the unpaid tax amounts to £90,000,000?
It’s Scotland’s money!!!!!
Rarely post these days , however thought I’d express my delight with HMRC result.
For me title and trophy stripping would be an adddd bonus. The joy of facing all the sevco fans that have told me “we’ve not been found guilty ” will do just fine.
Think I’ll change my name to ” 4 stars and a Asterisk “”
Good day to all tims and good luck to Ronny and the bhoys tomorrow night.
Snyde’s sooper score bored will be cancelled tonight i take it.
Have I understood this correctly?
On Turnover of 16.5 million you make a loss of 7.5 million
You have no credit line – anywhere.
You have a 5 million loan that’s overdue and you can’t pay it back.
You have a monthly wage bill that is increasingly difficult to meet.
You are spending a six figure sum more than you earn every month.
You postponed a share issue due to ongoing criminal proceedings against the people that sold you the club.
The man that sold you the club is declared bankrupt and his assets are being seized.
A central figure in the criminal proceedings has a viable claim against you for his legal costs.
One of your directors has just been directly implicated in a big money illegal tax dodging scheme.
And you announce that
“The year under way is already much more promising on all fronts.”
Who said comedy was a dying art?
HAPPY HECTOR DAY EVERYBODY!
Justice for Queen Liz over the Real Rangers Men.
RWE:
You seem to have a grasp on all the pertinent facts yes :)
CHAVEZ on 4TH NOVEMBER 2015 1:30 PM
If there is no scope to reopen the existing enquiry, then a new enquiry will need to be established.
RWE
Lovely article about young Tony.
An inspiration to us all.
God bless.
Strip the honours and titles now.. NOW…
Every Club in Scotland and those involved in European campaigns have been cheated.. CHEATED.
Willmacufree – LNS wasn’t duped – or if he was it’s because he allowed himself to be “duped”. These guys aren’t naive – they do their masters’ bidding.
wilmacufree
Ould LNS did his thang as a private arrangement with the SFA so he will have to just keep his head down when he’s shopping in the M&S Metro. They wanted his posh pseudo legal reputation and name to lend credence to something that was a sham. He would have been well paid for his myopia.
Nae Comeback CSC
This is a massive Scottish story, football is part of the Scottish psyche. The only thing that can bring this entire scandal to a head is a full public enquiry that provides whoever would be nominated to head up such an enquiry, with the powers to summon all the major players (pardon the pun) to appear under oath and not be allowed to hide behind any corporate vehicles or to invoke any manner of get out clause. This should have happened years ago, it would also allow any and all parties to come to the enquiry and articulate their losses in relation to the cheating without turning the whole affair into a Celtic v Oldco charade.
Anything short of this type of set-up will result in not only nothing happening but the very real chance that a similar thing could happen again in the future given that either the same or like-minded goons will still be in charge at the SFA asylum.
TBJ SAYS WEE OSCAR KNOX IS IN HEAVEN WITH THE ANGELS
According to Alex Thomson – hmrc will now pursue the administrators
I imagine the ongoing court action could result in the Assets being divided up between the creditors then punted onto anyone who wants to buy them to recoup the money owed.
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Yes I think this seems logical, just wondering if HMRC are now a preferred creditor. I suppose the small matter of Green & Whythe needs to played out before ownership of assets can be established & thendivided up.
Did his masters bidding?
Mibbe he is the “master”.
Philbhoy
Thanks. We’ll be at the thing tonight and are just so proud even if his name isn’t in the golden envelope.
Hope you are well.
James Forrest
Can’t stop smiling
:o)))))
Hope you are well
RWE
Please keep us posted and best of luck!
Everyone well thanks!
I vividly remember the day, it was November, dreary, chilly, damp. Occassional rain.
We had sent the kids up the stairs, and the pair of us – my Wife and I – listened to what the Counter-Terrorism Officers had to tell us.
There were 3 main risks, they said: Attack at home; Devices in the mail; and Harm when out.
It was all a little surreal, what with Mail handling, the School run, checking under the car. The house would be sureveilled they said, the local Station appraised, Fast Response notified, but in the end, it was all about common sense, they said. Just use common sense.
Surreal that is until the Wife caught my eye and the reality dawned on us. I was a target. We were targets. Our kids were targets.
This same conversation played out in half a dozen other homes that week that I’m aware of, doubtless more besides, different folk, same message.
I’d like to express my personal thanks to those who made it all possible, particularly David, Jack and the lads. Well played.