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“I’m Celtic’s problem and their supporters know that”  David Murray, 2001

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“I’m Celtic’s problem and their supporters know that.”  David Murray, 2001.  This was a fantasy, but it betrayed an unspoken truth.

Rangers under Murray was the Ultimate Vanity Project.  The above line could be interpreted as: “Know that I am the source of all joy to my followers and the suppressor of their opponents.”

Even if this was right, even if the strategy was sound, the plans carefully funded, the risks assessed and ameliorated, even if, David Murray was Celtic’s problem, this would still be an astonishing statement.

How dysfunctional would you need to be before you would have to solicit affection so openly?

Dysfunction was the truth hidden in open view in Murray’s statement, and not just his need to solicit affection.  His strategy: spend everything the bank will lend us, betrayed the gambler’s recklessness.

The greatest risk of all, that HMRC would, with 100% certainty, challenge MIH Group’s use of EBTs, was not addressed.  Creative tax ‘solutions’ are delivered with the caveat that HMRC will challenge.  That challenge would clearly impose commercial uncertainty over the club.

Craig Whyte’s nine months in charge, which ended on St Valentine’s Day 2012 when his solicitors raced to Edinburgh in order to beat HMRC to be appoint an administrator, is not where the real story is.  The club was holed below the water line well before Whyte was glad-handed down Edmiston Drive by Rangers fans in May 2011.  They needed to find a billionaire, or someone they could call a billionaire, and who was prepared to do the dirty job.  Craig was the latter.

“I’m Celtic’s problem and their supporters know that.”  That quote should be on a wall when we build the Celtic Museum.  It is one of the great morality lessons.

We’ll talk about Valencia this afternoon, you enjoy reminiscing about seven years ago until then.

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  1. F.U.B.A.R.bhoy on

    HRVATSKI JIM on 14TH FEBRUARY 2019 1:15 PM

     

     

    Thanks for posting.

     

    What about the penalty miss! Then the Ref disallowing their goal on the stroke of halftime as he’d blown his whistle after the guy took the shot! Hope none of our current referee’s watch that, might give them idea’s. HH.

  3. Philbhoy on

    WITS

     

     

    Hope to be visiting God’s country in April, staying in Dublin for 3 nights.

     

     

    Will definitely book the Kilmainham tour,

     

     

    Will give you a shout later for some pointers, if you don’t mind.

  4. What is the Stars on

    Philbhoy

     

     

    Of course

     

     

    Kilmainham is good

     

    Croke Park tour is interesting ( I am told)

     

    Book of Kells in Trinity College

     

    Pints of Guinness in Nearys,Grogans,The Palace,Doheny & Nesbitts and The Gravediggers all worth a shot

  7. mike in toronto on

    rangers is a great football club, it has a great history and it’s unfortunate that they have been relegated… Dermot Desmond

     

     

    Possibly The most important lie in Scottish football … and it wasn’t said by Sevco or the SFA

     

     

    When will we read an article on that?

  8. Philbhoy on

    WIITS

     

     

    Thanks!

     

     

    Trinity is on the list to see. Looking forward to the Guinness too!

     

     

    HH

  9. An Tearmann on

    ‘He is a problem to the material future of rfc ‘and only a couple of directors know that..

     

     

    Said by one director to another after credit checks and records at companies house were searched to show 55 of 56 companies were paper companies.OF NO VALUE..

     

    The one left was financed by Gavin Masterton.

     

     

    THEY KNEW THEY HAD A CORPORATE SHYSTER ON BOARD FROM DAY ONE..

     

     

    Let his skankery start there.

     

    I could not give 2 f…s what he thought of Celtic

     

    The same Celtic whose history being continuous,oversaw their eternal shiting out of identity and goodwill so publically after the 9 minute ‘Murray’s swirl doon the lavvy on liquidation day.

     

     

    Admin day and liquidation are to be highlighted for the rest of time.

     

     

    It was fantastic that every bit of skullduggery and cheating put in place to service their hubris turned into a self harming chib

     

    And they done themselves.

     

    And like their lamb,it became habit,chib,chib.

     

    Every bit of skankery rolled out by minty,floating pitches etc they sucked in.

     

    Told ably by a non investigative media,or waiting to be telts.

     

     

    Hell mend thum

     

     

    Beware too the South African criminal is at it now.

     

     

    God bless rtc

     

     

    HH

  11. Bhoylo83 on

    Usually when we play in Europe, James Forrest is used as our ‘out ball’ due to his pace

     

     

    Tonight we could potentially have three ‘out balls’ in Forrest, Burke and Weah

     

     

    B-)

  13. Tontine Tim on

    Bankiebhoy1 that was my first thought when reading the article, one other thing they have in common is spending OPM.

  15. An Tearmann on

    MIT

     

     

    Speaking as an individual shareholder he can say what he wants .

     

     

    An important distinction in my view as one of the main tenures of Fergus share issue was that no board member will speak a la Bob kelly as the voice of Celtic.

     

    Celtic,to shareholders and the millions of non shareholders alike is one identity.it is you and I Mike.

     

    I say unreservedly the Huns liquidated thro their own self harm.That eternal history will never change.

     

    The club/co did not day that..

     

    They said nothing.

     

    .They(we)stand alone

     

     

    Our club seen the demise of the cheating hun

     

     

    Rejoice Mike.

     

    Hope all’s good out your way and your well warm.

     

     

    Regards

     

    :-)

     

    HH

  18. Frank V on

    How things can change , when Murray and problems had nothing to do with Celtic but came from their own bampot brigade when they issued little known about death threats to him for their demise . On the financial side of things our board must have done thorough market research before before considering the hotel plan do you have any idea what would be the clubs annual return for this venture.

  19. Cosy Corner Bhoy on

    Haven’t read back……

     

    Once again CQN comes to the rescue with my request for a ticket for tonight’s game.

     

    No less than 3 posters offered me a ticket.Naturally I took the first offer(don’t look a gift horse in the mouth) but expressed my thanks to the other.

     

    HOWEVER….still need two for return leg??.

     

    Haven’t actually lit a candle yet but ……

  20. jinkyredstar on

    FUBAR Bhoy

     

    It has happened in a ‘real’ game at the same venue!

     

    Jan 1965 – Morton cam back from 0-3 down against us and ‘scored’ a fourth right on full time – the Ref blew for FT when the ball was heading goalward.

     

    These things even themselves out ?

  21. Hot Smoked on

    A great article by TBB ( from 2012) in Auldheid`s 1:42 post.

     

    I would recommend that it is published every year on Valentine`s Day.

     

     

    MiT

     

    You are an erudite and competent person.Could you not write the article yourself?

     

    DD`s comments were not particularly popular among Celtic fans. You would find a receptive audience.

     

    JJ

  23. F.U.B.A.R.bhoy on

    JINKYREDSTAR on 14TH FEBRUARY 2019 2:55 PM

     

     

    Seem to remember it happened in a World Cup game too, 1974 I think, a corner was given right at the end of the game, as soon as the player hit it ref blew for full-time, ball comes over an someone nodded it in, cant remember who though. Think they stopped it after that.

  25. F.U.B.A.R.bhoy on

    JEEZ_I_THOUGHT_BLINKER_WAS_PANTS on 14TH FEBRUARY 2019 3:09 PM

     

     

    Thats the one, I thought it was an English Referee too.

  26. Auldheid on

    mike in toronto on 14th February 2019 1:59 pm

     

    rangers is a great football club, it has a great history and it’s unfortunate that they have been relegated… Dermot Desmond

     

     

     

    Possibly The most important lie in Scottish football … and it wasn’t said by Sevco or the SFA

     

     

     

    When will we read an article on that?

     

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    Id much rather read an article of his views now.

  27. jinkyredstar on

    Yes that is the game. Would an interesting experiment to try out the Rugby rule of playing after time up until the ball goes dead (or, in Scotland only, when Celtic player is clean through!)

  30. GuyFawkesaforeverhero on

    Couldn’t care less about Rangers or Sevco.

     

     

    Inverness Courier 12 o’clock News – Jack Aitchison scores for Scotland 19s in a 1-1 friendly against Spain. Well played, Jack.

     

     

    Good luck to the Celts tonight.

  32. Chairbhoy on

    Hi Paul67,

     

     

    “I’m Celtic’s problem and their supporters know that.” 

     

     

     It’s incredible but not surprising that such a man was willing to take all the plaudits but none of the responsibility when things went so wrong.

     

     

    It’s just like the MBBillionaire thing, they knew if they were to get away with the Craig Whyte it had to be a huge lie.

     

     

    A mean, who would dream up a story about a dubious corporate recovery thousandaire* being presented as a Billionaire saviour. The big lie, it works!!

     

     

    *(c) CQN

     

     

    Hail Hail

  34. the long wait is over on

    mike in toronto on 14th February 2019 1:59 pm

     

     

    Re DDs quote

     

    “rangers is a great football club, it has a great history and it’s unfortunate that they have been relegated… Dermot Desmond”

     

     

    Mibbees I’m naïve but I’ve always taken that on the basis that DD was laughing up his sleeve at the time…

  36. hankray on

    Invariably teams coming from the big leagues to Celtic Park in European competition can destroy you with pace however on this occasion with the advent of young guns like Christie, Burke,Toljan and Weah, who I expect will make an appearence sometime during to-night’s match, in addition to Jamsie and Sinky, Celtic are very much capable of giving these continental flash-Harrys a taste of their own medicine. Come on ye Bhoys in green.

  40. Alasdair MacLean on

    The follow up to,

     

    “Happy Administration Day.”

     

     

    Is…..

     

     

    “What date is ‘Out of Administration’ day?”

  41. Oglach on

    Der Hun died in 2012 yet their fetid stench still remains, with the corpse of RFC 2012 being miraculously reanimated (some may argue rejuvenated) by those in position of power / influence within Scottish Society. Sadly including the custodians of our own club.

     

    Meanwhile CQN is going into Ad overdrive. Anyone else receiving invites to view multimillion £ apartments in London? Likely due to my posting about a recent visit to London on FB. The internet is rapidly becoming an insidious intrusive beast. Still worse to follow if the EU passes its digital copyright laws.

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