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Imperious Celtic in metaphor

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There has been a lot of noise around football in Scotland since we put Newco on the canvas to win the league on Sunday.  Notions are being peddled that directors left Newco because they had to make room for new people, who will bring bags of money any day now.  It’s just nonsense.

This photo of an imperious Ali (then Clay) and Liston on the canvas is the perfect metaphor for football in Glasgow right now.  Ali went on to set records, entertain, and become one of the world’s sporting greats.  Whereas this is the best known photo Liston; flattened two minutes into a match against his then rival.

The world had already changed for both boxers before this fight, although Liston only realised it that day, and there was nothing he could do about it.

Now Clay swings with a right, what a beautiful swing!
And the punch raises the Bear clear out of the ring.
Liston is still rising, and the ref wears a frown,
For he can’t start counting till Sonny comes down.
—Muhammad Ali

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  1. Beatbhoy at 10:55. Celtic’s second 7-in-a-row was between 1967 and 1973.

     

     

    Pat MacMahon scored the first (against Clyde) and Dixie Deans scored the last (at Easter Road)8.

  2. EUROCHAMPS67

     

     

    I like the sound of a “treble treble” so disagree with your post.

     

     

    Quadruple treble does not have any ring to it so, mibbe next year!

     

     

    Hope you are good!

  3. BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 3RD MAY 2018 12:04 PM

     

    I would imagine you will know if you log in to they Celtic website and check if you have been allocated one, or phone top the ticket office.

     

     

    LETS ALL DO THE HUDDLE ? on 3RD MAY 2018 12:12 PM

     

    If you read the link it says:

     

    All remaining tickets have been balloted amongst those Season Ticket holders NOT on the Home Cup Ticket Scheme who purchased a ticket, under their own client reference, for the home cup matches v Brechin (Jan 20), Partick Thistle (Feb 10) and Morton (Mar 3).

     

    Please note, tickets have been balloted as the club do not have a sufficient allocation to offer a ticket to all Season Ticket holders who meet the above criteria. The deadline is 4pm on Monday, May 7.

     

     

    It states there will be NO general sale.

     

     

     

    KTF

  4. Remember the fight well, Paul, for all the wrong reasons. Stayed up late with my dad to watch the fight. As I was never too interested in the opening minutes of a fight, I picked up the local paper to read something of local interest. Then the commentator’s voice going mad was all I heard, and looking up saw Liston on the canvas. End of story. Oh by the way, never had any interest in boxing after that and would never contemplate watching it now.

  5. lets all do the huddle ? on

    BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 3RD MAY 2018 12:04 PM

     

     

    I would imagine you will know if you log in to they Celtic website and check if you have been allocated one, or phone top the ticket office.

     

     

    LETS ALL DO THE HUDDLE ? on 3RD MAY 2018 12:12 PM

     

     

    If you read the link it says:

     

     

    All remaining tickets have been balloted amongst those Season Ticket holders NOT on the Home Cup Ticket Scheme who purchased a ticket, under their own client reference, for the home cup matches v Brechin (Jan 20), Partick Thistle (Feb 10) and Morton (Mar 3).

     

     

    Please note, tickets have been balloted as the club do not have a sufficient allocation to offer a ticket to all Season Ticket holders who meet the above criteria. The deadline is 4pm on Monday, May 7.

     

     

    It states there will be NO general sale.

     

     

    KTF

     

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    i sit corrected )-:

     

     

    i didnt read it in the first place, just got the info third hand!!

  6. Delaneys Dunky on

    VFR

     

     

    Could you put me down for a place at your table in Coias pre Aberdeen match please.

     

    HH

  7. BOURNESOUPRECIPE

     

     

    He didn’t say that did he??

     

     

    Nobody can be that thick he’s at it, probably got a University degree and a member of Mensa to boot:))

  8. I think Liston was told to throw the fight – or else!

     

     

    Allegedly of course!

     

     

    HH the champions!!

  9. Connaire 12,

     

     

    Similar experience. My dad got me up to watch or listen to that fight.

     

    Harry Carpenter had a late night programme about heavyweight boxing. Greatest show on Earth or something. My dad always woke me up to watch that. Loved it.

     

    Strangely now I loathe the “sport”, would close the curtains if title fight was on in the front garden.

     

     

    BSR, been to Lidl to stock up the Gazebo with Greek delicacies for the next few matches.

     

     

    Eurochamps67

     

     

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  10. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    EUROCHAMPS67

     

     

    How about we refuse to handle tickets for the SFA games in the Scottish Cup?

     

     

    It’s their responsibility after all.

  11. ….Bankiebhoy1 describes the prospect of an all-you-can-eat Chinese buffet for lunch as… “attractive”….

  12. Our very own PC Lustig’s stunt with the Police hat rang a bell with me… I remembered reading about big Tam Gemmell doing something similar so I dug out my copy of Tam’s book, The Big Shot.

     

    This book came out in late ’68 and contained great detail about the run in to the 67-68 league campaign in a chapter titled “Champions Again”.

     

     

    It was tight at the top with Celtic & Rangers on level points with a couple of games to play.

     

    We were at home to Morton and had a tricky last game of the season away to a very good Dunfermline team who would go on to win the Scottish Cup that year after knocking the Celts out in the first round.

     

    Morton also had a strong team that season and the previous week had taken a point off Rangers which helped us enormously.

     

     

    The game was entering it’s last stages tied at 1-1 and we were struggling to get the winner and what made it worse was news filtering thru on the trannies that the huns were 2-1 up at Rugby Park. If we dropped a point it would put them in the driving seat for the final game of the season – they had Aberdeen at home for that.

     

     

    Like so many times that season, wee Bobby Lennox delivered when it really mattered. He scored with the last kick of the ball. A scrappy goal but one of the most significant in his Celtic career. This goal kept us level on points going into the last game but we had a better goal average which kept us in the driving seat.

     

    Celtic Park erupted. When I checked Tam’s book, he describes the elation and bedlam and “for a carry on” he spotted a policeman on the track and decided to pinch his hat. As he went over however, a Police Inspector in the background started wagging his finger at Tam and he thought better of it and joined the celebratory mob on wee Bobby.

     

     

    So there you go – the desire to pinch a Polis Hat in celebration connects 2 x Celtic full backs – albeit 50 years apart.

     

     

    The final games were played on different days. Bizarrely Rangers played Aberdeen on the same day as the Scottish Cup Final (where along the road at Hampden, Dunfermline beat Hearts 3-1 with future Celt Tommy “TC” Callaghan in their line up). Aberdeen won 3-2 at Ibrox so we were Champions.

     

     

    We played new Cup Winners Dunfermline the following Wednesday night at East End Park – yep, the game with hundreds of fans on the roof – and we beat them 2-1. Who do you think scored both Celtic goals? – no wonder there’s a statue being built of him in his home town.

     

     

    “Champions Again” indeed, but it could have been hugely different if Bobby Lennox (God bless him) hadn’t scored that last second winner against Morton.

  13. mike in toronto on

    Ali stood up the injustice he saw ….

     

     

    He refused the draft, and did so publicly, even though he knew it would cost him .. he was stripped of his title and the ability to work at his job, and suffered death threats …. but he didn’t hide … he fought his case publicly …. all the way to the Supreme Court …

  14. bankiebhoy1 on

    When asked if the prospect of a ravenous Scotsman with an hour and a quarter to spare might be a good thing for his lunch-orientated Chinese restaurant……….

     

    ………an obliging Chinese waiter responded positively and enthusiastically.

     

     

     

    ……..

  15. Tallybhoy,

     

     

    There’s little doubt Liston threw the fight(s). In an earlier fight he virtually fought from the first round with a broken jaw and on another occasion he boxed with a broken bone in his hand. He was tough as an old boot and no way was Ali’s punching good enough to ko Liston. Unfortunately, Liston’s handlers had other ideas however.

  16. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    MALORBHOY

     

     

    I saw your suggestion earlier about the “booze cruise”

     

     

    If you think about it,there’s a 35% saving on standard cans of lager/cider/beer,based on typical prices down here.

     

     

    Particularly at Bank Holidays and World Cups.

     

     

    Go Compare,I was paying £10 for 20 Carling lager plus 4 Carling cider earlier this year.

     

     

    42p a can.

     

     

    It’s not just a van you would need,I’d suggest a warehouse!

     

     

    Btw,my Movano carries 1.7tonnes. Standard size van. Approx 3800 cans which would cost £3400 in Scotland,and about £2200 in England.

     

     

    Just for one trip.

     

     

    I’m not suggesting that anyone on here do it. But we all know others will.

  17. soukous- agreed.

     

     

    I can’t see how a team who shifted 6 goals in the semi, and led a charmed life troughout the knock out rounds, can even be contemplated as worthy CL winners. They are off their head down there.

  18. The ole Giffnock Glaswegians are pure ragin that their fancy dan Wholefoods went pair shaped and is being replaced by Lidl.

     

     

    Brings the wrong fag smoking, sqwerr eating urinating up a close cooncil types to the area.

     

     

    Allegedly CSC

  19. cathedral view on

    Sonny took a dive. Twice.

     

     

    The mob owned him.

     

     

    NightTrainCSC

  20. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    CONNAIRE12

     

     

    My Papa-born in 1892!-loved his boxing. He could wax lyrical about the greats he had seen,or read about. Let’s be honest,until his later years,it was newsreels and newspapers.

     

     

    His favourites as he neared his last days in 1974 were Ali and Frazier. He couldn’t split them.

     

     

    And KEN BUCHANAN. He adored that man. Rightly so.

  21. BMCUW

     

     

    Budding Del Bhoys will no doubt be looking at the profit marging – as you say Approx 3800 cans cost £3400 in Scotland,and about £2200 in England.

     

     

    However, as soon as they start to sell them to anyone above the minumim price of 50p a unit it becomes illegal and a black market trade. Also if you’re the one taking all the risk and buying nearly 4,000 cans up front you’re going to charge more than the cost price of 42p per can- but you cant sell at £1 so you have to cut your margins. So the cost to the punter will be nearer 60-65p, meaning at best around £800 profit.

     

     

    Then there’s your market- how do you shift 10000 cans a week for instance without being caught?

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