Safe standing comes to Scottish football. Standing was a part of our game for over a century (and still is in the semi-professional divisions), but the Taylor Report changed the game fundamentally, as grounds were made all-seater in the 1990s. This phenomenon was not restricted to the UK, Uefa (to some extent) enforced the trend on the rest of the Continent.
Then things changed in Germany. New stadiums had railed seating, which allowed spectators to stand during games. This allowed more people to fit into the same space. The grounds still had to be converted to conventional seating for Uefa games, but the phenomenon of safe standing proved, well, safe.
In fact, it is a lot safer than the de facto situation in many UK grounds, where away fans stand in areas which are clearly unsafe for standing crowds.
I understand why Celtic have situated the safe standing area where they have lower-tier corner of North and Lisbon Lions stands, but for me it should be North Stand upper. If you’re going to have a standing section, don’t just site it where one has emerged organically, put it where it best suits the stadium, can have most impact on atmosphere and has room to grow. Make no mistake, demand will outstrip supply for the standing area, and soon enough we’ll be wondering how we grow it.
The stadium can be further-portioned off. At the moment the family area is squashed between the new standing area and away fans – this section also has nowhere to grow. If you want more families, ensure each passing decade the stadium has more targeted family areas.
There should also be greater price differentiation for tickets. The pack-em-in reality of standing areas fits the profile of a cheaper ticket, which fits the reality of the North Stand upper’s isolation from amenities like lounges. Fill the North upper full of cheap, standing tickets, extend facilities like lounges – and charge accordingly, or family facilities, to lower tiers.
You want to stand in a busy area, move about and keep warm – pay less. You want to keep warm in a lounge – pay more. You want to take penalties against Ms Hoopy, go to the family area. Just bring a child, please.
30 years from now, few will want to watch football in a stadium like Celtic Park. This happened to football in the 70s and 80s. It became stuck in the infrastructure of what was then regarded by many as a decrepit bygone era. Many football fans just stopped going. I can see history repeating itself.
Cater for the future or your local shopping mall/multiplex will. In future, everyone will want access to a warm lounge before and after the game, and at halftime. Try planning a leisure activity in northern Europe for the 21st century and come up with any other conclusion.
Ticket machines should be at the perimeter of the stadium footprint. Once inside, you should have fan zones with bars, restaurants, cafes, play areas, shops – mostly undercover. You should never be more than 5 minutes away from being able to spend money. Or spend a penny – with paper towels available all afternoon.
I’m usually in the environs of Celtic Park close to 3 hours on a match day. The opportunities for engagement are enormous, but we’re miles away for thousands of us in the ‘reasonably priced’ seats.
None of this is meant as a criticism. We have a magnificent 20th century stadium, I was one of thousands who paid to build it. All of the above wish-list would cost millions we just don’t have – this is the reality. But we need to have a vision of what our future requirement looks like.
I still miss the old Celtic Park, the new stadium cannot touch if for atmosphere, but what we expect when we go to the football is different now, and will be different again in the future. The first thing I’d do if we broke free of Scottish football is call in the bulldozers and start again.
Season ticket prices remain same as last season, confounding conspiracy theorists four-year fantasy. This caused brief spates of cognitive dissonance before a fresh wave of conspiracies washed the pain away.
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Big Eck Wang
The barrhead Paisley panda
Eats shoots and leaves
“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’
’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’
’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.
Would the Celtic stadium roof structure, be able to take, support solar panels ?
A large space, which could eliminate electricity costs for the club, and potentially generate revenue through selling spare capacity ?
See thinking oot the box :-)
Cowiebhoy.
Naw.
Nice one KevJ
Right Ghuys n Ghirls.. Lets get one thing straight.. I’m not on the Celtic Board payroll, not in P L’s pocket, dont caddy for D D and ahm not P67’s secret lover… Ahm a Hoops Supporter, one of 10,000,000 throughout the World. Were at the end of what most of us would agree was a pretty dire season, (or two) no arguing there.. dire being at the top end of the scale!!
But, is there ANY cause for satisfaction or pride or pleasure, can we take anythin from the last year or 2??
Biggest concern and Worry for me is the apparent disconnect between the board and us. Res 12, the 5 way agreement and the easy ride, turn a blind eye to the Tax dodging criminals, heads the list.
But, on that point.. I’ve tried to follow our ghuys at the coal face.. they SEEM to tell us, Its in hand, it IS on the table, and it WILL be dealt with when the time is right.
We have a STUNNING concourse thats befits our Club.. we’ve honoured our favourite Sons in bronze.. we are still highly regarded in World Football circles, (ask Bren Rog).. we have managed our Manager’s departure with honour and dignity.. Our History.. Our Charity Foundation.. we have ‘reduced’ the price of our season books.. we will lead the U K with Safe Standing AND, we have won 5 in a row.
I’ll be here for the next 5 mins to take the blows..
H H
Naw.
However.
If the pitch was retractable out to the Celtic way and car park. On a wind out ratchet. No cost at all.
Professor Potts csc
COWIEBHOY on 4TH MAY 2016 10:47 PM
That’s a good ‘green’ initiative.
On that note, bed.
Right Nytol, but I will leave you all with this
The odds on Brendan Rodgers taking over as the next Celtic manager have been slashed following a flurry of bets on the Northern Irishman over the past two days.
Current Hoops boss Ronny Deila is set to leave the Parkhead side this summer, and Rodgers is just one of several high profile candidates linked with the post.
David Moyes, Paul Lambert and Neil Lennon are all considered to be in the running, but comments from Rodgers on Monday appear to have convinced onlookers that he could be the man to replace the Norwegian.
As we told you at the time, after taking part in the Belfast Marathon, Rodgers refused to rule himself out of taking the job – before going on to call Celtic one of world football’s iconic clubs.
Those comments seem to have sparked punters into action, with Ladbrokes slashing the odds on Rodgers replacing Deila from 20/1 to 7/2.
Andy.
A good summary. A pat on the back
SAINT STIVS SAYS SACK THE BOARD on 4TH MAY 2016 10:54 PM
Andy.
A good summary. A pat on the back
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What he said..
Cowiebhoy
The peepul who don’t live in glass houses would just throw stones
I have a feeling A V B will be the new manager,
Edward Daly,Michael O’Hanrahan,Joseph Plunkett and William Pearse were executed in Kilmainham Jail 100 years ago today.
ANDYR53…..
No Blows with that post……..
You missed out the part of 11 green and white jerseys ……
Bringing pleasure to millions Heh Heh……
H.H
Neganon 2
Yep you have misunderstood.
When you read this it means that I have successfully posted.
I posted. I didn’t need to tell anyone that I posted. In fact I didn’t tell anyone. Just posted it and that was enough to achieve my objective.
You see?
Avrum Grant
Wearing Jo Venglos jacket
Kevj
I haven’t read back, but it sounds like you have had good news. I suppose that means we need to put up with you for a wee bit longer :-) HH
C’mon Ghuys.. no been that great a season.. BUT WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS, an we gonna be better next year!!
Hail Hail.. K T F.
A wee footnote. To Andy.
My wee Grandson got home today from the Childrens Hospital…
Seems we live there at times … Anyhoo..Theres an Envelope addressed to him..
He opens it and stares…….Get well Kieran….From Kieran …
Only our Young player of the year ,took the time to wish wee kiers speedy recovery.
And wee Kiers will be in J.S stand this Home Game….
Ha Ha… whits sellic all aboot? ask my Grandson….
H.H.
Bada Bing and Tontine Tim, A Motherwell fan I know.cant stand Mcleish. He has the same opinion of Mcleish with regard to having an impact then leaving a club in a worst state than when he arrived.
He told me a story of Mcleish ‘s time at Fir Park. Motherwell had some sort of deal with the local Halfords. Allegedly Mcleish wanted the club to get bikes on his behalf. free of charge as Christmas presents for his children, from Halfords. He was on just short of a six figure salary as Motherwell boss at the time. Total chancer and wido.
His 132 years of unsurpassed dignity comment sums him up.
Drambowiecelt on 4th May 2016 11:15 pm
Both Kieran’s are what it is all about
Hello again all you young rebels.
Just scrolling back and i see some talk of the stickies eyeing
up Scott Mcdonald well i think they would be better looking
elsewhere, having sat with his father and younger brother
resplendent in his hoops top last week in the local club and
a load of his signed Celtic tops all round the rebel peninsula
which Scott donated for charitable causes they are wasting
their time, and yes he could still do a job for us
H.H Mick
Kev J
Quality news
To you and yours
All the best
HH
Drambowiecelt… Wow.. what a gift !!! Brilliant.
Watch this space in the next couple of days… ahm workin wi Jane in the Foundation on a wee pipedream of mine.. with the Foundations help.. I might just realise it, and hopefully open up the world of football to lots of disadvantage in our Communities.
The Foundation dont get the credit they deserve.
Will keep the CQN’ers updated.
K T F.
@Mag7 11.15…….
And that’s what CQN is all about ……
Thank You…….
H.H.
Winnings please explain what I have misunderstood.
Andy53 again why can’t Celtic explain their reluctance to take forward res 12?
Auldheid, BRTH, Canamalar. It seems that many think it’s ok to wait and see what happens with res12. They trust that you have told them the board are on top of it.
Do you agree?
@11.36
And that’s what weans don’t understand….
H.H.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36205523
Peter.
Yer a stoater.
Drambowie what is it I don’t understand?
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KevJ….
Marco Will Be So Pleased..!
Comhghairdeas
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Mags….
Oh Dear..!
Bruce “Ups The Ante” Noo…
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/05/04/bruce-jenner-to-pose-nude-with-olympic-gold-medal-for-sports-illustrated-cover/
Somehow, Posing For Page 3 O’ The Rug’glen Reformer…
Wearin’ Only A Ginger Toupee….
Disnae Carry Quite The Same Cachet..?
Agreed..?
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And scrolling back further, ( this time difference for us tims on
the other side of the world is murder ) condolences to EMERALD BEE.
And a big cheer for Kev j’s good news.
H.H Mick
Evening Celts
Kevj
The rebel flag will be flying high tonight:)
Wits
I will always take the time to remember brave men.
Rebels and Heroes.
UTLR
HH
Bada Bing 10:23
That’s funny. I read on the BBC website that McLeish had – ahem – “left”……
MACJAY1 FOR NEIL LENNON on 4TH MAY 2016 11:45 PM
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36205523
Peter.
Yer a stoater.
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Good to see this finally reaching fruition. I disagree with Paul67 on his proposed choice of location. Upper tier?? Others have already pointed out the technical issues, but I imagine that the Council would have dismissed that location immediately for safety reasons. Not saying they’re correct – but it makes it easy for them. Note that the delay in implementing this has been Council dragging their heels…
Gotta Say…I Find CQN..Really Funny These Days..I Mean…I Really Like the Poster Who Say..” Im Not Renewing My Season Ticket Because Weve been Cheated”..like That Was a new Phenominom..or..Im not Renewing Till LAWWELL Goes…Or Im Not Renewing Till We Do something About Res 12…LISTEN UP…Thats YOUR Decsion..And Thats Ok…BUT..FFS…Keep it To YOURSELF..I For One Am Bored the Fk Hearing About it…If You Dont Want to Go See CELTIC…THen Dont…Keep Your Moanin Bitchin Woman Soul Searching ive been betrayed Crap you Yourself..Dont Go watch Celtic ..Dont watch Them on TV..Take the Fk Up Knitting….
.Who The Fk Cares…COYBIG.
BGX
Yeah…let them cheat us.
Who gives a feck eh
@Neg2…….
You understand a lot ..Your clever,fluent, artistic, passionate..
All I’m sayin is ..The weans just want to see the sellic……
Have you got weans? grand weans? great grand weans?
Who worship Celts?
Every generation asks the question .. Please enjoy this 5 in a row….
H.H.