Incompetent start for VAR

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3-4 wins at Tynecastle are the stuff of legends, games when champions show their credentials.  The excitement, however, took second place to our inaugural appearance in domestic football with a Video Assistant Referee.

After taking an early lead, Celtic lost their way in the first half as Hearts pushed for an equaliser.  A minute before the break Cammy Devlin knocked the ball forward an instant before Cameron Carter-Vickers made contact with the Hearts player’s foot.  Referee Nick Walsh missed the contact, which was clear on first viewing of the replay, but the VAR seemed caught in the headlights and took several minutes to advise the ref to take a look at the video monitor.

It was all downhill from there.  Within seconds, James Forrest drove inside the Hearts box but was stopped in his path when Michael Smith’s extended arm stopped the ball inside the box.  This was the classic scenario VAR was supposed to address, a stonewaller by any measure, but fresh from his panic a few moments earlier, the VAR declined to intervene.

Anthony Ralston then scored an excellent headed goal but before the ball crossed the line, Nick Walsh blew for an apparent infringement.  That early whistle meant VAR was unable to act.  It is beyond doubt the referee made a mistake in blowing early, for my take, the goal should have stood.

Now we get to the bizarre episode.  At both Hearts penalties, Hearts and Celtic players encroached into the box before the kick was taken.  At the first, the goal stood, at the second, Joe Hart saved and Hearts scored an offside goal in the follow up.

The second penalty was retaken in line with the rules (a retake is the correct decision if players from both sides encroach).  The fist penalty, which results in a Hearts goal, was allowed to stand by the same VAR.  Either both should have been retaken, or as neither affected the outcome, both should have been allowed to stand.

Late in the game, Liel Abada scored what looked to be a good goal, but the assistant referee flagged for offside, confirmed by VAR.  I am not convinced, and broadcaster Sky did viewers a disservice by declining to apply the cross-field lines they used for other decisions during the game.

It was an incompetent start with the new technology that did not reflect well on the SFA or referees.

I don’t want to put ideas in your head, so fee free to choose any one of the 5 million Slovaks, but which of them does Reo Hatate most remind you of?

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  1. bournesouprecipe on

    VAR continues to destroy the game West Ham 1-0 clear hand ball not not revised in the check

  2. Can’t see Napoli settling for a draw against TFOD 2 on Wednesday because Liverpool would be breathing down their neck when they dispose of Ajax in the corresponding fixture .Dont think they will want to risk a final fixture showdown with Liverpool to win the Group.Hopefully they will want to put the Group to bed and put them out of sight on Wed with at least a 6-0 score line . There is also the possibilty of a consecutive fixture win record at Stake…and the small mater of a 2.75M win payment from the champions League ….Go on Napoli pile on their misery .

  3. I assume Group winners are in an advantageous position when the draw gets made for next round ?

  4. lets all do the huddle on

    they have probably got that west ham goal right

     

     

    his arms werent away from his body in any way, so the ball would have hit his body anyway.

     

     

    and there were then 3 other players who touched the ball before it went in, including a defender who moved the ball away from the goal

     

     

    i dont have a problem with that

     

     

    i also have a bet on west ham

     

     

    which is unrelated to my thoughts on the goal!

  5. MARSAPA

     

     

    Some people just don’t get the fact they can be wrong….. and admit it.

     

     

     

    🤣🤣🤣

     

     

    You’re wrong

  6. lets all do the huddle on

    watching it again, well played to the officials for allowing that

     

     

    correct decision

  7. bournesouprecipe on

    That awkward moment when you find yourself watching West Ham against Bournemouth ( and The comments are from Sean Dyche and Jamie Carragher )

     

     

    Aff oot CSC

  8. prestonpans bhoys on

    Apparently the official line is….. if the hand ball had led directly to a goal it would have been cancelled however because the resultant goal was played by three players subsequently it stands.

  9. lets all do the huddle on

    That is a handball

     

     

     

    the ball definitely hit his arm

     

     

    but what a lot of folk dont realise is that the ball hitting the hand (or arm) isnt necessarily a foul.

     

     

    the ref has to deem it deliberate to give the foul

     

     

    or in the last couple of years, the rule about unnatural position etc

     

     

    none of that could be applied to that west ham goal

     

     

    so correct decision

  10. PRESTONPANS BHOYS on 24TH OCTOBER 2022 9:03 PM

     

    Apparently the official line is….. if the hand ball had led directly to a goal it would have been cancelled however because the resultant goal was played by three players subsequently it stands.

     

     

    So….if only 2…..or as many as 4 had subsequently played it it would have been ruled out?…..these VAR decisions are getting very complex

  11. prestonpans bhoys on

    31003

     

     

    Well that’s what they said anyway Father Broon on which is a better watch😱😵

  12. Ps I have absolutely no doubt that the Calvinists despise Celtic as much if not more than The Rankers …Their fan base have consistently illustrated this over the years by their songbook and actions ..especially at Swinecastle

  13. lets all do the huddle on

    For those watching West Ham game…Pollok on BBC Scotland a better game….4-2 at present

     

     

     

    any dodgy VAR decisions yet? 😁

  14. LETS ALL DO THE HUDDLE on 24TH OCTOBER 2022 9:14 PM

     

    For those watching West Ham game…Pollok on BBC Scotland a better game….4-2 at present

     

     

     

     

     

    any dodgy VAR decisions yet? 😁

     

     

    Not yet

     

     

    Since I turned over to watch the most exciting part I’ve seen is a pal standing on the terracing eating 2 pies at the same time

  15. lets all do the huddle on

    Not yet

     

     

    Since I turned over to watch the most exciting part I’ve seen is a pal standing on the terracing eating 2 pies at the same time

     

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    i worked in the supermarket beside that pitch back in the day

     

     

    had great pies in the canteen there as well!

  16. As a consequence this fuelled my desire for a cheeky wee bottle of Chateauneuf-du-pape…1986 vintage of course on Saturday evening …to raise a toast to the famous Glasgow Celtic and a certain Albert Kidd .

  17. “The fears of Celtic supporters…….have certainly come to fruition”

     

    Could not have put it better myself

     

     

    TommyBoydCSC

  18. MARSPAPA on 24TH OCTOBER 2022 9:29 PM

     

    CQNRS…….

     

     

     

    Some top Roastirs in the top right photo 🤣🤣

     

     

    Roasting for a good cause

  19. Brill pics of social gathering in 2014 ..was that Peter Grant in the pics?..,I have not as yet managed to attend one …difficult as I reside in Edinburgh area but I fully intend to ..would be great to meet up with other CQN members …any events coming up ?