Inconceivable wifi debate, Supporter statements

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I’ve a bit of experience at deploying wifi to stadiums at sports stadiums.  The business model is straightforward:

You offer free wifi access to spectators who otherwise would have trouble getting 3G or 4G access due to the short-term convergence of thousands of other spectators.

In return you capture spectators registration details, which you can subsequently use for marketing purposes.  You can also force visitors to a landing page after the login, which can carry advertising.  Finally, you can control access to premium event-related sites, like gambling.  The venue can prohibit access to betting sites apart from their (paying) betting partner.

This technology has been around for a while but the tools and processes to commercialise it are still relatively new.

Venues across the country are already doing all of the above, but we’re only at the beginning of how sports venues engage with the phone in the hands of their in-stadium spectators.  The venues control premium content – like replays of goals or key incidents, which they can use to entice stadium visitors to register, login and view adverts.  You can view a goal reply on stadium screens, but this technology would allow you to view incident whenever you want, from whatever camera angle you want – great if you’re stuck at one end of the ground and want to see an incident in the opposite penalty area.

Eventually you will be able to order snacks or buy shirts through the same app you use to view replays.  The possibilities are endless: view Benchcam to see who is doing what in the technical area, click on your adjacent Kioskcam to see if there’s a queue before leaving your seat.

Sizing an install is a straightforward process.  You start with the capacity of the venue, then estimate what percentage you’ll get to register, then estimate how many will want to access the internet simultaneously, then estimate their average bandwidth requirement.

From that you get an estimate of what throughput your access points need (and where they are needed), what routers you need, and the leased line bandwidth.  This exercise has been done in practically every town in the country.

It’s inconceivable # 1

It’s inconceivable that the supplier and customer have not gone through this sizing procedure.  There will be email trails confirming the process.

It’s inconceivable # 2

It’s inconceivable that a customer expects 100% of their maximum population to register, login and access the internet simultaneously.  Especially so if the customer already had a stadium wifi installation and was aware of visitor login profiles.  If they did, their supplier would size accordingly, but this would have been well covered during the preliminary conversations.

It’s inconceivable # 3

The deal Newco Rangers are trying to get out of was signed under then chief executive, Charles Green.  Star witness for the plaintiff would surely be the directors from the other side who instructed the deal:

Counsel: “Mr Green, as chief executive of Rangers International did you instruct our clients to install a wifi at Ibrox allowing around 10,000 users to simultaneously access the internet?”

Case closed.

The Association, the Affiliation and the Irish Association, by some distance the three largest supporters organisations, all issued statements condemning those who use pyrotechnics at Celtic games.

It’s difficult for any group of people counted in the tens or hundreds of thousands to self-police over decades.  One of the functions which makes this possible is that when self-criticism is needed, it happens.  There was no whatabouterry in these statements, no blaming the media, just the straightforward message about what this behaviour is doing to Celtic supporters.

I don’t know if these statements will make any difference (all points were previously known), but the wellbeing of the support depends no strong voices stepping forward at the right time, especially when they can be shouted down.

The 3rd Annual Celtic Supporter’s Féile takes place in Philadelphia from 29th-31st January, including a Tommy Burns Supper for the first time.  Events are based at The Plough & Stars, in the Old City section of Philadelphia, where Celtic supporters from all over the world will gather.

There’s live music and radio shows, a book launch and a Q&A with Supporters Liason Officer, John Paul Taylor.  $5 from each ticket also goes to the Foundation.

Book tickets for the Tommy Burns Supper here.  If you need accommodation, special rates are available at the Wyndham Philadelphia Historic District with passcode: Celtic Group.

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  1. ernie lynch on 14th January 2016 10:48 am

     

     

    I thought the party stance was that, policy was agreed within the party by a democratic process and once that decision was reached a united front was presented. Not policy is dictated and if you don’t like it get out.

     

     

    That seems like a reasonable way to go about things on the face of it. I think it’s also the system that JC is trying to instigate with Labour but obviously it’s all a little messy with them just now.

     

     

    Where it does present problems is when I as a constituent highlight a problem with my local MSP about OBFA – even if they agree with me, they can’t necessarily say so lest they fall foul of the above, should I go public with their thoughts. All they can say, is they’ll pass on my concerns. Far too wishy washy.

     

     

    Regarding points 1 and 2.

     

     

    It’s rubbish legislation. Rubbish at what it’s supposed to do and rubbish at what you claim it’s supposed to do.

     

     

    2. Whos’ ‘us’. If he Celtic support is a fairly broad church and therefore representative of the Scottish population as a whole, it might suggest that actually SNP voters are in a majority of those that actually vote. Perhaps not, but even then I’d think numbers are far higher than you’d hope for. ;)

     

     

    Gotta work now. A pleasure as always.

  2. TONYDONNELLY67 on 14TH JANUARY 2016 11:01 AM

     

    TIMBHOY3 and ERNIE LYNCH

     

     

     

    ‘MORE CT groupies’

     

     

     

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    For pity sake, is that the best you can do?

     

     

    Personal abuse?

     

     

    Try to engage with the argument.

  3. TONYDONNELLY67 on 14TH JANUARY 2016 10:36 AM

     

    SAINT STIVS & THE EXILED TIM

     

     

     

     

     

     

    as I’v said many times, I find it pointless getting into any sort of dialogue with malcontents, they won’t agree with me, nor I will with them, I post what I think in my opinion is right, and do not need to explain to some why or what my thoughts are, others yes, you two no, my choice, same as you have yours.

     

     

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    thats a shame. i was looking forward to the high level debate.

     

     

    whats a CT groupie ?

     

     

    can you try answer that one, as a point of clarification ?

  4. Jungle Jim Hot Smoked on

    Were it not for the fact that I have a strange aversion to the word `duty`, I would say it was the duty of all football supporters to Add to Favourites/ Bookmark this link:

     

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2CErE_uxnw

     

    and to then try to reach as wide an audience as possible with it.

     

    Thanks to Big Nan /ernie lynch.

     

     

    JJ

  5. The exiled Tim

     

    Snare people? Are you serious? I keep telling you it’s a blog ffs, get real, you the type of guy I see going into a bookies while the virtual horse racing and ask for the form sheet?

  6. Jungle Jim Hot Smoked on

    Some good guys on here behaving as though they are not good guys. If someone uses a tone/language/style you don`t like and you respond in the same fashion then discussion will be fruitless.

     

     

    JJ

  7. Yip it’s a blog ffs, as you keep saying.

     

    Just think about that for a minute, if you can.

     

    You post stuff that is your opinion, others challenge you, you slink away cos you can’t answer them.

     

    Yip it’s a blog ffs, typical trolling.

  8. WEEMINGER on 14TH JANUARY 2016 11:09 AM

     

    ernie lynch on 14th January 2016 10:48 am

     

     

     

    ‘I thought the party stance was that, policy was agreed within the party by a democratic process and once that decision was reached a united front was presented. ‘

     

     

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    I assume that this legislation was discussed and democratically agreed by all members of the SNP before it was introduced.

     

     

    Is that what happened?

     

     

    Are there any party members would could confirm that?

     

     

    Because frankly I very much doubt that is the case.

     

     

    I suspect the first any of you knew about this was when Salmond announced it after his summit. And then you all fell into line, where you have remained.

     

     

    It’s interesting though that you feel that Leninist Democratic Centralism is an appropriate way to run a party that’s in government. As I said, you’re cult like.

     

     

    Furthermore you seem to regard this legislation as some kind of aberration.

     

     

    It isn’t. It’s entirely consistent with the history and ethos of Scottish nationalism.

  9. Jungle Jim Hot Smoked on

    The OBaFA

     

     

    “Mrs Birling: If you mean that the Inspector will take offence –

     

    Inspector: No, no. I never take offence.

     

    Mrs Birling: I’m glad to hear it. Though I must add that it seems to me that we have more reason for taking offence.

     

    Inspector: Let’s leave offence out of it shall we?

     

    Gerald: I think we’d better.”

     

     

    The Act would be pointless if we were all Inspectors.

     

    The prisons would be very crowded if we were all Mrs Birlings.

     

     

    JJ

  10. Jungle Jim Hot Smoked on

    ernie,

     

    You are probably correct when you say:

     

    Furthermore you seem to regard this legislation as some kind of aberration. It isn’t. It’s entirely consistent with the history and ethos of Scottish nationalism.

     

     

    Do you not think, though, that that deflects from the OBaFA argument? One day at a time, sweet ernie.

     

     

    JJ

  11. Neganon 4.48

     

     

    Dont be upset.you voted with pride in your union and defended it loyally.

     

    paint me as a nationalist if you wish.its wrong.

     

    paint me repeatedly as a nationalist and i will repeatedly say your wrong.

     

     

    Neg i have asked you before to evidence yourself especially when talking bout Catholicism and its role in Scotland.You simply dont.you make vast sweepingly incorrect statements,assume them to be correct and argue and debate your point from there.so go easy.

     

     

    Ernie 6.03

     

     

    No thank you to the confused mess that is nationalist cult of unionism.

     

     

    :-)

     

    HH

  12. What is the Stars on

    Fight fight fight

     

    Glad all that” let’s be nice to each other” nonsense is over.

     

    I’m in the” nobody wants me in their clique,” clique. .

  13. 67Heaven .. CHALLENGING THE LIE ..I am wee Oscar...... Ipox belongs to the creditors on

    KEVJUNGLE

     

     

    Bit of, a contradiction when, on the other hand, you are telling us rebels not to challenge the lie / corruption ………Timmy, “lay down your arms and surrender tonight :)”

  14. I’v had my fingers burned before in here regarding answers or debates on the CT mob, and both times it ended in them running to the janny and grassing TWICE, I took my yellows and mind who I get involved with in here, it’s no secret I’m not the poster boy with them, but I sleep ok at night, so the new tact seems to be pull the storm troopers and send in a reconnaissance group, ie the CT groupies, I could be wrong mind you, same as the CT could be wrong with all the accusations they say about my club?

     

    But it doesent work that way, you question the CT in here at your peril. They come in here and rip the board to toilet paper, you argue against it, they go Tonto on you.

     

    Naaaa I don’t need to join any trust to get my answers from Celtic, I can do that myself thanks without it being spun and taken out of context, it’s called e mail, in my opinion the CT are no better than the DR,

     

    Can I say that?….well I just did.

  15. AN TEARMANN on 14TH JANUARY 2016 11:34 AM

     

     

    ‘No thank you to the confused mess that is nationalist cult of unionism.’

     

     

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    What is that supposed to mean?

     

     

    If you hate the English, just say so. At least that would be coherent.

  16. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    WHITEDOGHUNCH

     

     

    Where? Who?

     

     

    I’m scrolling and ignoring so often nowadays,I only read about half the posts!

     

     

    How you keeping,big fella?

  17. ah the unionist seeks clarification!

     

    i am clear.The english are great,

     

    your nationalist cult of unionism is a mess.

     

    that cult you defended so ably.

     

    i hope that clear and coherent enough for you.

     

    good day

     

     

    HH

  18. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    Well Celtic have agreed to loan Anthony Stokes to Dundee Utd. is this evidence of the Parkhead clubs attitude to the Rangers push for promotion to the SPL ? Now we have been told Hibernian have been keen to secure Stokes for the run in to the Championship I am sure the player would have scored plenty of goals and put real pressure on the Rangers but of course that looks to be dead in the water now. I would like to wish Stoksie well at United but will feel he should be at Hibernian. H.H.

  19. E Times on line headlines

     

    ” Scott Brown to be back earlier than hoped”? Was the et wanting him back later.

     

    Thought Jeanatte and Paul were very good at parliment, also the chairman was very fair.I watched it on You Tube and thought McCaskill fitted right in .

     

    Off to bed, nite nite timland

  20. These cheap jibes about Sevco and the WiFi,dont go down well with me,thats there problem not ours ,i have a concession tkt for the game this evening,if anyone is wanting it contact me on 07751250558.

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