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There can be no doubt that Brendan Rodgers has played his cards very publicly this week.  I don’t know the ins-and-outs of it, but it cannot be over losing a player he could not promise a starting position to.  I’m not buying that, there has to be something we are not seeing.

We have a modestly important league game tomorrow and a hugely important Champions League qualifier on Tuesday, so between now and Wednesday, at the earliest, it would be preferable not to allow this week of internally created negativity to drag on into yet another press conference.

We are also trying to convince Dedryck Boyata and Moussa Dembele to sign new contracts.  You and I know that talk getting in the way these objectives is as inexplicable as it is indulgent.

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  1. Delaneys Dunky on

    Gene

     

    I smell shoite wi this.

     

    Would back Rodgers over Lawwell all day. Both are ego maniacs I think. Brendan has achieved his right to be egotistical. Peter has not.

     

    YNWA

  2. I watched the hearts forward Ikpeazu when he played for port vale – a bit of a handful but not a lot of skill – fans love him because he causes fear in the opponents defense.

  3. Evening folks,

     

     

    Very sad to see this disagreement between Brendan and the board going public. i would imagine two years in to his reign at Celtic Brendan realises that any hint of a negative story being made public would be shown in the worse possible light by the Scottish media.

     

     

    If Brendan is fully aware how the msm work in Scotland then it suggests to me that he feels seriously aggrieved at the way the board are running some aspects of the club. I would imagine mostly player recruitment is his biggest gripe. Does he feel this is his last resort to get a resolution?

     

     

    Also as James Forrest has pointed out in his recent articles, the board also going public is not helping. Not the ideal situation at a crucial stage in the season.

     

     

    I sincerely hope this is resolved quickly. But with both the board and Brendan going public it’s very worrying to say the least.

     

     

    HH Dan

  4. mike in toronto on

    DD

     

     

    If you are waiting on the club to tell us, I’m afraid you will be waiting a long time., my friend..

     

     

    it seems like the Club thinks the only information we really need/deserve is the cost of tickets, and directions as to how to pay for them…

  5. From Paul Larkin.

     

     

    I personally love Brendan Rodgers, he’s the boss and should be as long as he wants to be. Anything being done to undermine him, whether it’s limiting funds to briefing against him, I see as a betrayal of him, Celtic and the supporters. We should all unite behind Brendan. ?

     

     

    Well said Paul.

     

     

    A man that has created history and broke record after record in Scotland is being undermined all right.

     

     

    Don’t worry I’m sure Peter Lawwell’s Merry men/minions will be along attacking Brendan soon enough on Pedro’s orders.

     

     

    It’s the same on here and twitter, as soon as you criticise the board his wee attack dogs pounce.

  6. One thing puzzles me over this “mismatch” between BR’s ambition and PL’s or DD’s ambition.

     

     

    That is, that, so far, this has been a great transfer window for retention of players.

     

     

    With all the big money going around, we did not lose Moussa, or KT or Rogic, or Boyata, or Jamesie or Ajer or Gordon or Simunovic or N’tcham.

     

     

    We did lose a regular squad contributor in Armstrong and we lost a loaned player (thus far we have, though I hope for good news yet) Paddy R.

     

     

    And the most likely departure point for these proven talents- the EPL- has just closed its windows (Big French clubs could see Moussa depart yet though). That has to be seen as an achievment. We matched ambition by providing contracts for Rogic, Ajer, Calmac and others to persuade them to stay. That cost us a lot in wages but it is never factored in by those who criticise on the “biscuit tin” argument.

     

     

    And you cannot argue that there were never any bids or enquiries for these players. We know that there were approaches for MD, KT, CG, DB, JS and KA. I would doubt that there is no interest from England in Tom Rogic, Olivier Ntcham or James Forrest though I have no information on such.

     

     

    Yet, we have kept them intact to provide BR with the continuity of squad that other managers have not been able to get. BR deserved this because we got entry to the CL stages twice in a row under his stewardship. he has not had a failing situation……. yet. But it is bound to come, maybe as soon as next week.

     

     

    The only area where we have failed BR is in recruitment and, particularly, in defensive recruitment. BR’s own signings of De Vries, Gamboa and Comperr have not been able to replace any of the defenders bought or developed by previous managers. Despite this lack of recruitment success, he deserves one, maybe two, big money punts on these important positions.

     

     

    Yet, apart from a Phil Mac rumour identifying a Sporting Lisbon RB, Schar and Mbemba, we have heard remarkably little about who we are or were interested in for these positions. Certainly, John McGinn, Paddy Roberts, Pedro Chirivella nor Daniel Arzani do nothing about rectifying this.

     

     

    I hope there are still viable targets out there. WIth big countries like Germany, Spain, Brazil and Argentina having disappointing WC campaigns, there might be a dearth of Scouts looking t their markets compared to the fashionably successful markets of France, Croatia, England, Belgium and Colombia/Uruguay.

     

     

    We still have 3 weeks to stiffen our defence for the upcoming campaign. Let’s hope we have the same continuity in Board and Management to get the benefit of all this hard to achieve continuity.

  7. JMcG wages conundrum…

     

     

    AV = Offered X

     

    Basic high or very high with low bonus element.

     

     

    CFC = Offered “X”.

     

    Basic lower but with bigger bonus and an appearance fee.

     

     

    X = “X” if JMCG started every game.

     

     

    He then asks BR will he be guaranteed a first team start every week?

     

    BR says no naturally as he is not the captain.

     

    JMcG works the guaranteed numbers.

     

    PL can claim we matched AV.

     

     

    AV win — in a gunfighter vs knife fighter type of way.

  8. GENE on 10TH AUGUST 2018 4:43 PM

     

    I watched the hearts forward Ikpeazu when he played for port vale – a bit of a handful but not a lot of skill – fans love him because he causes fear in the opponents defense.

     

    —-

     

    Gene he will fit right in at the Edininburgh hun hammer throwers.

     

     

    D. :)

  9. BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 10TH AUGUST 2018 4:29 PM

     

    Who would win in a fight between gin and craft beer?

     

     

    ——

     

     

    That should NEVER be a conflict.

     

    Add a wee diet tonic and a perfect start to the weekend.

     

     

    HH jg

  10. Bhoys

     

    Looking for a bar showing the game in Split Croatia for the game tomorrow. Any ideas?

     

     

    Kikinthenakas

     

    ??? x 2

  11. All this talk about BR V Pl et al is at best ,crap.

     

    We have a game tomorrow against the Edinburgh Scum who want to give us a doing. This must be the total focus of CELTIC, total .

     

    Nothing else will do , we must put everything in to beating them, all our thoughts and focus must be on that, nothing else, nothing!!!!!

     

     

    I was thinking, perhaps if hunman go breasts up again, they could amalgamate with Hertz, call themselves Hun United. At least then we could see what we are up against for sure, as if there was ever a doubt.

     

     

    I want us to get at them 100 m,ph, for 90 minutes and really put them to the sword. After all, we are more than capable. Levein is a horror of a human being and should be consigned to the cessspit where he belongs.

     

    KINGLuBO

  12. the glorious balance sheet on

    CQN State of the Club Report, 31 December 2019:

     

     

    Interim Celtic manager Lee Congerton will imminently make way for new manager Neil Lennon in what is a stunning coup for the Glasgow side.

     

     

    After months of negotiations between Rod Petrie and Peter Lawwell which were finally settled in a penis size competition adjudicated upon by Hibs CEO Leann Dempster and a best of five game of paper, scissors, stone, Hibs finally agreed to release their manager for a fee of £1 million plus Scott Allan and Jack Hendry (signed to replace the departing Efe Ambrose).

     

     

    Lennon will not however be free to sit in the Celtic dug out having been banned by the SFA from the dug out for 24 months after comments made in the press after hibs had 4 guys sent off, 3 goals wrongly disallowed and 5 penalties given against them in a crucial match at

     

     

    The SFA compliance officer ruled that Lennon’s comments of “the referee may have got a few decisions wrong there” defamed match official Bobby Madden and his assistants Tommy Robinson and Douglas Ross.

     

     

    Lennon inherits a strong squad. Although Dembele, Rogic and Tierney were sold in summer 2019, the Celtic board, recognising the huge opportunities presented by the inadequacies of glasgow’s public transport system, invested all the proceeds in a massive fleet of skoda Octavia cars to be used as taxis to ferry people to and from the Celtic hotel when it opens in 2027.

     

     

    The fleet of skoda Octavias have the finest set of high powered brake lights ever seen on Scotland’s roads and are jealously coveted by the boards of Ajax, Porto, anderlecht etc as another example of how Celtic are the best run club in the world.

     

     

    Although failure to qualify for the 2019/20 CL and EL group stages was a disappointment, the smaller squad has had less games to manage – a blessing if ever there was one.

     

     

    Albanian Man City loanee Hazni Plaid-Much is due to recover from the groin strain that has sidelined him since signing in the summer. The chronic injury is thought to be a legacy of the 25 year olds days of sitting on the bench at City reserves and during various loan spells at vitesse arnhem, malmo, vardar skopje, Melbourne city and now Celtic.

     

     

    In short everything is great. As it always is. All hail the plc board.

  13. David 17 @ 16:42

     

     

    If John McGinn is sitting with more money in the bank ,when and if Celtic complete 10IAR, by choosing to go to England what regrets is he going to have. Trophies and trebles won’t pay his pension in the future.

  14. David 4.44.

     

    That’s the post of the day for me.

     

    In my opinion, D.D, that’s part of your jigsaw, as to why J.McGinn ended up at Villa.

     

    I think there was a complacency by someone at Celtic that no matter what J.McG would choose Celtic.

     

    Hail Hail

  15. The hands cant hit what the eyes cant see on

    @ SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 10TH AUGUST 2018 4:55 PM

     

     

    “And you cannot argue that there were never any bids or enquiries for these players. We know that there were approaches for MD, KT, CG, DB, JS and KA. I would doubt that there is no interest from England in Tom Rogic, Olivier Ntcham or James Forrest though I have no information on such.”

     

     

    Aside from Boyata, has Brendan or Celtic confirmed that a concrete offer has been received for a player and rejected? We seem to be lowering the bar as to showing ambition- are we taking credit for not selling players that we have received no offer for?

     

     

    Of course, the media have said that we are about to lose everyone (to unsettle us), but as I say, aside from Boyata, has there been concrete offers?

     

     

    “That cost us a lot in wages but it is never factored in by those who criticise on the “biscuit tin” argument.”

     

     

    I think some people do not factor it in or give it the merit it deserves, but the reason these players are earning more is because they have been successful and Brendan has developed them into valuable assets.

     

     

    How much is McGregor, Forrest, Boyata, Armstrong, Rogic etc worth now compared to when Brendan arrived? You would expect that they would want more money if their value in the market has increased. The question is, would you rather they had not increased in value or performance and were still on a lesser wage, but take the increase in performance value and accept that as a result you have to pay them more?

     

     

    I think it’s often overlooked by some, but you cannot expect large profits and bigger revenue without any increase in outgoings.

     

     

    Expenditure may have increased but so has: our success, exposure, value of squad, reputation, income stream and profit.

  16. Talk about arrogance – 10 IAR is not a certainty. In fact, with that Celtic defense we will be lucky to finish second this season. The energy has been sucked from the team. BR and the board no longer aligned. Signing small , young and inexperienced midfielders and wingers.

     

     

    What about the effin defense?? right back has been torture for years – too many crosses coming into our box from that area. get it fixed!!! when the balls come into the box we don’t deal with it. Why ? Boyata was not the answer last season , is he the answer all of a sudden since he played a could of WC games? the rest are inexperienced potentials (KT exempt).

     

     

    When we have a corner – do you expect a center to head a goal?

     

     

    Last few seasons we got away with it – this season, watch how many goals we lose from set pieces. Hearts are stronger, Rangers are stronger, Hibs always capable and Aberdeen can do damage.

     

     

    Athens will expose our failure to address the defense!

  17. It’s not just the McGinn deal we failed to get over the line, the Italian Right Back from Sporting (Picini?) we apparently thought we had only for him to go to Valencia. That’s 2 players the manager wanted, were within budget and the players seemingly wanted to join but we didn’t complete and left the door open. It appeRs that someone is not doing their job propoerly or are working to a different agenda.

  18. CQN Transfer Style Guide

     

     

     

    A cracking player – Brendan Rodgers – signing.

     

     

     

    A pile of steaming dung – Peter Lawwell – signing.

     

     

     

    A Marvin Compper – nobody’s owned up – signing

     

     

     

    As ever CSC

  19. STEPBHOY,

     

    in spl defense was not the problem, putting the ball in the back of the net was.

     

     

    we needed a box player against aek not two centres who played on the wings or close to it.

     

     

    and for gods sake why did ss and jf cut inside where a packed defense was waiting, get to the byline get the ball over and two or three celts in the box.

     

     

    now the defense in cl thats another kettle of fish.

     

     

    db still here why did we turn offer(s) down, he can walk free next year.

  20. The hands can’t hit

     

     

    “Aside from Boyata, has Brendan or Celtic confirmed that a concrete offer has been received for a player and rejected? ”

     

     

    Don’t know but that is why I sadi “bids and enquiries” in my post. Do you think none of these successful players elicited enquiries from down South?

     

     

    As for the rest of your reply, we seem to be agreeing. People do not appreciate that retention of good players is expensive. I agree it is worthwhile as we continue to keep good proven players and their sell on value improves if they are not near their contract ending.

     

     

    All I am saying is that all of that has to be put into the Matching the Manager’s Ambition column.

     

     

    We both still want a centre half.

  21. Despite the current issues between BR and the Board, i am convinced BR has absolute respect for the support. He will prepare the team well for tomorrow and to be perfectly honest, having met a few of the players, they are unlikely to have taken notice or give a damn. I am expecting a dog fight but wont be surprised if we come out like a wounded animal. Hearts have been doing some talking and with this Celtic side that is very dangerous.

     

     

    The support tomorrow will leave PL in no doubt as to who they are backing. BR’s name will echo around Gorgie throughout, you can take that to the bank.

  22. Tim Horton

     

     

    “and for gods sake why did ss and jf cut inside where a packed defense was waiting, get to the byline get the ball over and two or three celts in the box”

     

     

    I saw both players do both these things, to pretty good effect. Well, apart from ensuring there were 3 players in the box (how could they do that?)

     

     

    SS danced along the by-line, at least twice in the 13+ minutes he was on. JF put over a stand up cross from the by-line that cut out the keeper and still landed at the far post but there were no takers. This was far from a no by-line approach- I remember KT firing a couple in from there too.

     

     

    Unfortunately the by-line strategy was more ineffective than the go through the middle strategy as that was where we scored our only goal.

  23. David 17

     

     

    I have no doubt that the away support will give us full backing.

     

     

    Our Home Support- I do have well grounded doubts on.

     

     

    And to Brendan’s credit, there were no signs on Wednesday that he had let our players get distracted by the Soap Opera and angct that was created after the presser.

  24. weebobbycollins on

    Jobo, good evening sir…I think happiness is in short supply on here at the moment. Could change after tomorrow though…

  25. weebobbycollins on

    Paul67 says, “We have a modestly important league game tomorrow….”

     

    I beg to differ…for me it’s a very important game, massively important, and not just because I don’t like Levein and also enjoy pumping the jambos. Can you imagine the consequences of losing tomorrow? It would be a jolt to our confidence and a real boost for our rivals, to say nothing of the meltdown that would take place on here…No siree! A good performance and victory would give us the momentum to go to forward to Athens with a greater degree of conviction…and Levein has already given our team talk saying we were lucky last season…and I’m not a violent man but I hope someone gives that big lanky hun Lafferty one for me…

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