Instant gratification is no good for people, it gives our brains the wrong signals, but still, when it comes………. Within 4 minutes of making his Celtic debut Daizen Maeda opened the scoring against Hibernian. It was his first chance, his first proper involvement in play and pivoted the game away from Hibs, who should have already been ahead after Joe Hart and Josip Juranovic pondered in their six-yard box.
Such was the anticipation ahead of last night’s game that for some of us it brought back memories of Jorge Cadete’s debut against Aberdeen (delayed by maleficence at the SFA), or Paulo Di Canio’s against Kilmarnock the same year. Maeda’s impact was every bit as clinical. His 90 minutes was reminiscent of Kyogo; constant movement, gyroscopic balance, few touches and an outcome-determining performance.
If Maeda had a dream debut, Reo Hatate’s reached fantasy levels. When we first heard of Reo he was operating as a left back, with the cursed title of a utility player. The transformation he brought to Celtic’s play had to be seen to be believed. His role was to create and then utilise space, the former achieved by perpetual movement, the latter by ranging passes that switched play and swiftly pushed Celtic forward.
As a consequence, it all looked too easy for Celtic. They had options everywhere, a teammate in space, a forward pass tempting them into attack. Hatate’s movement impacted what happened everywhere on the field. It was a kind of omnipresence, even when he was 40 yards away (the limit of his distance from play), he was still consequential.
With so many playing their first game in over a month, the relenting pace of the first half could not continue. Celtic reduced their pressing after the break and saw the game out. With five substitutes available, it was curious that Ange Postecoglou waited until 74 minutes before brining on Yosuke Ideguchi, Giorgos Giakoumakis and Mikey Johnston.
Our third and final debutant of the night had a lot to live up to. Yosuke adopted the No. 6 role at the back of the midfield, with Callum McGregor moving one place ahead for the remainder of the game. He did enough to show comfort and competence on the ball, as Celtic subverted Hibernian hopes.
As I said above, instant gratification misleads our brains. My brain has already extrapolated last night’s performance across the remainder of the season. Let’s agree that at the very least, Celtic have embarked on an exciting road.
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Edward hopefully still peruses these pages.
My Nephew is a Rangers Supporter but the Help & Support he provides for my maw&paw is Incredible.
SFTB
exactly
To keep myself right, I’ve looked at the profiles of our Japanese players.
Daizen Maeda (24) is the youngest. One month older is Reo Hatate, also (24). Yosuke Ideguchi (25) will be (26) later this year, but not before Kyogo Furuhashi (26) turns (27), tomorrow. I’ve got it now.
Ange may or may not win the Title this Season, I think he will despite all the odds.
And a Euro trophy.
Sensational players; Magical manager and the best Supporters. Monday was Good.
SFtBs @ 12:40 AM,
You feel that Hun is not sectarian then. Yet you do admit that Hun is a term for Rangers supporters and a derogatory term at that.
Also it is not exclusive to Rangers supporters other football supporters can be huns as well, even Celtic supporters can be Green Huns, if they are a particularly nasty type of football supporter.
Yet you can have Rangers supporters that are not Huns.
As it is a footballing term and not exclusive to either side of the sectarian divide it is not a sectarian term.
Is that about it? Seems a little convoluted.
Let’s take things away from football for a moment, the sectarian divide is after all a societal issue.
There are walks in the west of Scotland such as trade union marches etc, and they would be attended by many people from our society including both sides of the sectarian divide.
Then of course you have an Orange Walk now that would only be attended by one side of the divide therefore an Orange Walk is a sectarian event, it is lawful as long as the necessary permissions were obtained and route agreed although there can be hate and racist singing and chanting at these events which is of course illegal.
Now according to you it would be wrong to call those walking Huns.
Now, still outwith football we have songs, chants, phrases and tunes specifically from the different traditions they are associated specifically and incontrovertibly with an organisation, event, conflict, aspiration of one side of the divide or the other.
Now some of these songs are clearly less offensive traditional songs that are loved by one side and loathed by the other. Others are songs of hate and violence, clearly beyond the pale and illegal, yet others in between are the perceived offensive songs.
Traditionally it is the illegal and perceived offensive songs that are regarded as sectarian and as you say, the fact that one side perceives something to be offensive does not necessarily make it so and just like an Orange Walk they can be lawful but sectarian in nature.
So these songs, chants, phrases and tunes are sectarian not ostensibly as some would like think but quite incontrovertibly.
And it’s around these that we have our infamous songs at Celtic debate.
The appropriatness or inappropriateness to sing these songs is a different proposition to whether these songs are sectarian or not.
Yet the fact remains at Celtic we would see ourselves as inclusive like the trade union march bringing together all walks of life and both sides of the divide.
Now let’s not kid ourselves, Celtic are associated much more with one side of the divide but we are open to all and are not sectarian in nature – like say an Orange Walk, which is exclusive to the Protestant Faith.
That been the case, and the fact that we have probably got the biggest and best repertoire of songs in football, why would we sing Sectarian songs?
Hail Hail
Conor Hazard away on loan…
https://www.celticfc.com/news/2022/january/19/conor-hazard-moves-to-hjk-helsinki-on-loan/
Morning Celts
Right!whose no smiling? :-)
Have a good day Celts
HH
SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 19TH JANUARY 2022 12:40 AM
Good post, thank you.
Sorry that we have different views on some of the Songs, however I REFUSE to be a HYPOCRITE whenever possible.
If that makes me a Dinosaur, then so be it ?
Id rather be a Dinosaur than a Hypocrite every day of the week.
A QUESTION to you and some others on here whos view differ from mine….
IF YOU and/or some others on here are in a Pub watching the Celts on TV ( especially against the Huns), what do you do IF some others in that Pub start to sing Nationalist Songs…..Do you…
(A) Approach the offending songsters and tell them that you are offended and that they should shut up ?
(B) Sit there quietly and say and do nothing ?
OR
( C) Get up and walk out of the Pub ?
I would bet good money that many on here who do NOT like to listen to Irish Nationalist songs, have been in Pubs and/or Parties and Celtic Park over the years and have JOINED IN with the singing…OR….at the very least ( whilst not joining in), have found their hands to be clapping and their toes a Tapping along to the songs ?
HH
A nice wee unexpected bonus last night with the Huns NOT winning v Aberdeen. I watched the whole game as BOTH teams could hardly string any passes together.
I also thought that the Huns MISSED…ARIBO…Big Time, as he is probably their best player most weeks and Kamara had a poor game also.
As for the REF ” Clancy” allowing the Huns goalie to stay on the Park and NOT Award a Penalty to Aberdeen just before the Huns went upfield and scored their goal was shocking.
For a start the Huns goalie ” MacGregor” in his desperation was clearly NOT in CONTROL of his Body and Limbs as he threw himself at the Dons player.
In recent years there is a Ruling, that states IF a player is NOT in control of his body etc, when making a challenge then that is a FOUL or a PENALTY, if inside the Box. Ive watched and listened to many so called TV Pundits describe such challenges as FOUL PLAY anywhere else on the Park.
Likewise some Refs have Yellow Carded or shown a Red Card for those type of challenges in numerous games.
Anyway, the Gap has now closed yet again which I am very happy about this morning.
HH
chairbhoy
Who, what and where is this “Yiddish Community” of which you speak?
Good result on Monday night , super football in the first half but once again took our foot off the gas , why do we do that . With regards to last nights game I would love to see. The boy Ferguson at the Celtic , this lad is an exceptional player big strong and plenty dig . As for his rangers connection we are open to all ,go get him ange .
I have always regarded the term ‘hun’ to mean Rangers supporter.
I remember starting a new job in Edinburgh. I spent an hour with my boss on a tour of introduction during which he asked if I like football. He told me there were a lot of football fans of various teams in the building and that he himself was a Jambo. On introducing me to one guy, he added the words, “Watch him. He’s a hun.”
It was said with humour and of course meant a Rangers supporter and he definitely wasn’t referring to the man’s religion.
HUNS ?
Over the years Ive had several good mates that were ” Rangers” fans and NONE liked to be called A HUN !
However, it has always given me great joy over the years to point out to my Hun Pals, that thy should NOT be offended whenever they hear the word Hun and them being described as such.
I have told these Hun mates that they should take it as a COMPLMENT, since ” Attila the Hun” and his Hun Army even had the Roman Empire living in fear for many years.
Apparently, Attila and his Huns would raid Roman Outposts on a regular basis and slaughter anything that moved. It has been said that Attila and his Hun Army were feared the world over, and so much so, that The Roman Empire PAID ” RANSOM” Money to Attila the Hun in order to STOP them attacking Roman Outposts and killing everyone etc.
In essence, the Roman Empire KNEW that Attila and his band of men were a very REAL THREAT to Rome itself, and would pay anything to stop Attila and his Army.
Attila was apparently a very smart cookie, and once he was paid some ” RANSOM” Money from the Romans, his Armies would leave matters alone for a wee while, and put the Romans on a feeling of false security, before suddenly throwing their weight around Trashing and Killing Romans once again, only for the Roman Empire to PAY UP even more Money every time ?
That is why I have told any of my Hun mates that they should feel honoured to be called a ” HUN” due to Attilas fearsome reputation.
Attila had NO LOVE for Rome, just like his modern day contemparies !
HH
Clancy bottled the Aberdeen’s first pen call – a pen all day long with Boyd on sky even saying it was ‘probably’ a pen.
I actually think his refusal to award that pen lead him the backbone to give the Morelos handball because he knew he’d made a mistake.
And as for Walker not believing Kent’s second yellow was merited, he’s simply a fool or a soup taker. Maybe both.
CHAIRBHOY on 19TH JANUARY 2022 5:58 AM
SFtBs @ 12:40 AM,
‘Yet you can have Rangers supporters that are not Huns.’
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I don’t think you can. They’re all huns, some are worse than others, but they’re all huns.
FAO AN TEARMANN…
I had HOPED that I would feel well enough to come out and play today, but last night and again this morning I began to feel a bit unwell again.
( Although the Huns score cheered me up )
Its too risky for me to go out Bevvying for now, I guess I will need to wait a while longer, so its yet another day in the Hoose for me.
HH Mate.
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Sevco wreck dressing room at Pittodrie….
As a kid, 10 maybe,had a pal from the dark side and he would often recite this wee ditty…
If I had a tommy gun
I’d shoot every fenian HUN
Just to walk down the Queens highway
!!BADA BING!! on 19TH JANUARY 2022 9:36 AM
I’d take that with a pinch of salt. Leaving a tap or a shower on doesn’t cause a flood. And there will be staff in the building who would have checked the dressing room as soon as the huns had left.
Re Main Stand redevelopment that Tom McLaughlin and others mentioned yesterday.
Lovely thought but can’t see happening under the current ownership. When Fergus demolished 3/4 of the ground 27 years ago the Main Stand would only be about 25’ish years old, so would still be a viable asset. Now, all these years on it could certainly do with a major upgrade, something that would put us in a different league from our major rivals.
The new Main Stand at Anfield reportedly cost £110m and they have started the upgrade of the Anfield Road stand at an estimated cost of £80m.
Smart architects and engineers might be able to do something with our Main Stand at under the Liverpool figures but our board show no particular appetite for the project.
A few years in my previous local Celtic Pub, there was one or two ” Rangers/Sevco” fans who also drank in there.
On occasions one of the Sevco Guys would sometimes work behind the Bar to help out.
In the Pub one day with many Celtic supporters in the Bar, this Sevco fan went to put money in the Till.
on seeing this, I shouted out….” Look Bhoys, its a TILL with a HUN” !
I’ll get ma coat.
LOL
HH.
Big Jimmy@9:29
Adding another historical note, the term Hun was attributed to the Germans in the First World War for their atrocities in Belgium. Calling them marauding hordes, rings well with the mob out of the bigot dome!!
ERNIE LYNCH on 19TH JANUARY 2022 9:34 AM
CHAIRBHOY on 19TH JANUARY 2022 5:58 AM
SFtBs @ 12:40 AM,
‘Yet you can have Rangers supporters that are not Huns.’
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I don’t think you can. They’re all huns, some are worse than others, but they’re all huns.”
That is an interesting claim/viewpoint ,ernie.
Full blown Huns or diluted Huns but Huns just the same….hmmm…
I think that if I knew someone who supported Rangers (sic) but was left wing politically,anti-monarchy and an atheist , I would struggle to think of him as a Hun.
What do others think.
BIG JIMMY on 19TH JANUARY 2022 9:49 AM
Many years ago,my brother and his mates used to call a Rangers supporting bartender in Montrose The Hun at the till.
Hope your health improves soon enough.
Anyway, golf time.
Cheerio for now.
HOT SMOKED on 19TH JANUARY 2022 9:56 AM
Bottom line, they were all prepared to support a club that wouldn’t knowingly employ a Catholic.
And whatever his politics or whatever the likes of Jimmy Reid was a hun (in the Sun).
TFOD2.1 support classification — Hun vs Bluenose vs (Ran)Gers fan?
Too many are Huns.
Some are Bluenoses — house trained / mannerly / biased / not open to football reason.
Not enough are (Ran)Gers fans — able to hold a educated conversation in mixed company.
The animals are nobodies mugs.
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PPB @ 9.54
Huns as Germans — interesting …
Kaiser Willi in 1900’ish introduced the term to describe how his boys would fight in the Boxer Rebellion to keep the outside influence on the Eastern seaboard of China in the face in an upsurge of local nationalism.
Not sure why he made the connection that he did.
The original Huns were an Asiatic nomadic tribe who headed west as the Roman Empire collapsed in the west looking for better grazing and gave their name to the country of Hungary.
The Germans would appear to be sedentary tribes east of the Rhine who lived in forests and who had an up and down relationship with the Roman Empire for hundreds of years.
Consequently Kaiser Willi was blethering his own waste water for some reason.
However 14 years later it helped the Allies PR effort to galvanise their own populations against the menace of German hyper militarism.
Seats are joost boring if not snobby.
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I could watch Broony waving farewell to the Banjo boy all day.Brilliant.He had Morelos wound up like a Banjo string all night as well.
A true Celtic legend.Even gone,he still gives it to them in spades.Luv him.
Free State fkrs should be pitchforked doon Kerrydale Street.
Rebels my arse!
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Thanks Bhoys for the links last night to Mirin & Barra,
Very interesting.
Obviously I am very familiar with the story of St. Finbarr & Gougane Barra is one of my favorite spots in the world, never associated him with the Scottish Island of Barra.
JHB and Turkeybhoys weans at school.
Deary me.
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Park the Bus
Finally cracked it.
Your posts always reminded me of something but I could never quite place what that was.
Your last post brought it back to me.
It reminds me of a visit to the Monkey House and seeing a chimp sticking a finger up it’s own arse and then precede to put it in his mouth.
Thanks. That’s been bugging me for a while
Nae herm tae thur real weans ✌ 👍
Rangers fans are huns…..rangers players are huns ……they may be Catholic (nowadays) but they are huns…..my best man …was a hun…..a great friend and we were thick as thieves….but he supports ( not so much nowadays) rangers ……it has absolutely nothing to do with religion…..and everything to do with who you support ….
CLINKO on 19TH JANUARY 2022 10:48 AM
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