Instant gratification is no good for people, it gives our brains the wrong signals, but still, when it comes………. Within 4 minutes of making his Celtic debut Daizen Maeda opened the scoring against Hibernian. It was his first chance, his first proper involvement in play and pivoted the game away from Hibs, who should have already been ahead after Joe Hart and Josip Juranovic pondered in their six-yard box.
Such was the anticipation ahead of last night’s game that for some of us it brought back memories of Jorge Cadete’s debut against Aberdeen (delayed by maleficence at the SFA), or Paulo Di Canio’s against Kilmarnock the same year. Maeda’s impact was every bit as clinical. His 90 minutes was reminiscent of Kyogo; constant movement, gyroscopic balance, few touches and an outcome-determining performance.
If Maeda had a dream debut, Reo Hatate’s reached fantasy levels. When we first heard of Reo he was operating as a left back, with the cursed title of a utility player. The transformation he brought to Celtic’s play had to be seen to be believed. His role was to create and then utilise space, the former achieved by perpetual movement, the latter by ranging passes that switched play and swiftly pushed Celtic forward.
As a consequence, it all looked too easy for Celtic. They had options everywhere, a teammate in space, a forward pass tempting them into attack. Hatate’s movement impacted what happened everywhere on the field. It was a kind of omnipresence, even when he was 40 yards away (the limit of his distance from play), he was still consequential.
With so many playing their first game in over a month, the relenting pace of the first half could not continue. Celtic reduced their pressing after the break and saw the game out. With five substitutes available, it was curious that Ange Postecoglou waited until 74 minutes before brining on Yosuke Ideguchi, Giorgos Giakoumakis and Mikey Johnston.
Our third and final debutant of the night had a lot to live up to. Yosuke adopted the No. 6 role at the back of the midfield, with Callum McGregor moving one place ahead for the remainder of the game. He did enough to show comfort and competence on the ball, as Celtic subverted Hibernian hopes.
As I said above, instant gratification misleads our brains. My brain has already extrapolated last night’s performance across the remainder of the season. Let’s agree that at the very least, Celtic have embarked on an exciting road.
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Vogue – maybe he did a good job of cleaning the inside of Broonie and Fergusons pockets which is where he appeared to spend his evening. Totally anonymous
kent red was harsh – broony very clever but there was no real contact. Aberdeen deserved a draw and with a bit more belief could have won it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=972LByfB3aA
Hatate!!!!!!
Genius.
Bankiebhoy,
I gave up the Glue 1st Jan.Finding it hard to stick to the Resolution.
How is it only Tuesday?
Kent deserved a red just for being an ugly c*nt
who cares if he didnt touch broony
I was watching the game on my ipad, real time only. Now looking via Sky+ box, which has frame stop control. Penalty and linesman has perfect view, will BBC be asking for VAR again tonight ?
Hayes nearly Banjoed him.
At least he did not squeal like a Pig at the Red Card.
Turkeybhoy on 18th January 2022 10:00 pm
Boyd being almost fair.Shockeroony.
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Tom Boyd is an excellent summariser….. Kris Boyd is a rabid wan who represents Sky Sports (Jim Whites bitches).
As it is Live the Cheat will have less Opporchancities to cheat.
Shut up Bronko as your team get EVERY break going. Check out the Penalty stats. Almost Double TIME!!!!!!!!!!!
CELTIC
CELTIC
Hun Media in meltdown over Clancy.
TBH, In second half I think Clancy did give the Sheep the benefit of the doubt, probably realised he should have given penalty in first half.
Just seen the result and delighted. I rarely watch hun games because they play pish football. They are there for the taking.
Agree with CorkCelt, Tynecastle is a huge game for us.
Waited until games were over, then peeked through my fingers at score. Surprised, but absolutely delighted. What a difference a day makes! Gorgie Road a week tonight absolutely critical. It will be a tough game in a hostile environment, but I think our new lads will be up to the task.
Bournsouprecipe……….Glad you got my possible reason for the big IRA themed recital by the Green Brigade on Monday night. Just after watching the big game from Pittodrie and congrats to Celtic old Bhoys Scott and MOTM Johnny Hayes on a terrific result.
Never knew till recently that St, Mirren are named after an Irish Catholic Monk.
Every day is a school day.
Ange now has to decide how to approach the Alloa game. Give the new guys more game time and/or swap a few players.
If it was my choice, I’d put out the strongest team and only when the game is done make the changes.
Not like players need rest.
On the 18 Jan. last year 21 points split Celtic & the league leaders.
Enjoy your work like this man
https://twitter.com/aboutceltic/status/1483558359026573318?s=21
https://twitter.com/mdembele_10/status/1483565316282200077?s=24
Bring Moussa home
Corkcelt on 18th January 2022 10:33 pm
Never knew till recently that St, Mirren are named after an Irish Catholic Monk.
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Think the original spelling was ‘Mirin’ – and was my secondary school in Paisley.
Rumours too, he had Ange-like links, being a native of the city of Patras in Greece! !
CELTIC40ME @ 7:44 PM,
There have been several high profile campaigns to stop spurs fans using the y word to describe themselves, the club even did a consultation
If you go to white Hart lane you’ll hear over half the crowd using the word in their songs.
It’s a poor parallel to draw
No, that’s another good reason why it’s good parallel to draw.
These issues are not unique to Scotland and it has complexity.
How the Yiddish community or even the wider Jewish community may refer to themselves and how outsiders whether Arsenal, Spurs or any other supporter or anyone else for that matter refer to them is an important point for debate.
There are Black people that use the “N” word, some in the communities are against that – it is universally agreed now that none outside the communities use the word.
The town where I live there is a big Pakistani heritage community – some use the “P” word to describe fellow “Pakistanis”, it is now universally agreed that none outside the community use the word.
Plenty of examples.
Of course among the self righteous Celtic support it is they who get to decide what’s what….
Whether the “H” word is offensive or not.
They get to decide what is sectarian or not
And what should and shouldn’t be acceptable in a divided community is their exclusive right.
Seriously Now…
It’s the twenty first century ghuys
Stop being all Laurance Fox and get with the program.
Hail Hail
Thanks Quadrophenian, think Mirin was reputed to have came over from County Down.
THE LONG WAIT IS OVER on 18TH JANUARY 2022 8:28 PM
An tearmann
“ We had a regular rangers fan who would visit now and again. I cant remember his moniker now but he was a decent sort. ‘“
Edward Ursus iirc correctly.
Seemed like a genuine guy.
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Hi TLWIO :-)
I think it was Carrib04 asking when replying to me,think BSR confirmed earlier,I remember Edward Ursus always being well respected here then as reality caved in at ibrox in 2012 he left.must get out the ol Christmas annuals lol and check 😊
Ps Mikey I thought played well on coming on last night.👍
Playin well he can slice thro defences.
Still at p7 reading back as I ignore them.
Hope your good
HH
I’m done for the night, 2 good results last night & tonight, 4 sounds so much better than 6.
Relax for a few days & we start again,
Goodnight & God Bless All
CORKY – the historians are duking it out… HH
https://www.paisley.org.uk/paisley-history/saint-mirin-patron-saint/
CHAIRBHOY on 18TH JANUARY 2022 11:08 PM
The Yiddish community doesn’t exist. Yiddish is a language.
No Jewish person would describe themselves as being part of the Yiddish community.
A large amount of Tottenham fans describe themselves as Y’s, and the majority of them are not Jewish. Right or wrong, for them the word has non-religious connotations.
There will be arsenal fans who use the word in a discriminatory way when describing spurs fans, but for the majority it’s a football thing.
chairbhoy @ 11.08pm
“the Yiddish Community”?
Ohhhh…..
I grew up among Jewish kids – my school was majority Jewish my friends were a mix and my first girlfriend was Jewish.
I also live in near both groups, used to go to highbury a lot and go to white Hart lane with my son who supports them and my in-laws who are season ticket holders. I was there last Wednesday for the cup semi-final
My Tottenham supporting friends call themselves Ys, I’ve known Arsenal fans who definitely aren’t racist refer to them as the Ys
It’s a (not that) complex thing that’s all about context
Grounds not groups
I’m not far from manor house though, which as anyone from round here knows is as orthodox Jewish as you’ll find anywhere
Would you believe it 1-1 PK and red card to the huns.great couple of nights now keep it going Celtic.
Bada Bing on 18th January 2022 10:45PM
Moussa enjoys a wind up or two.
Reading down the thread there, FC St Pauli have knocked out Borussia Dortmund 2-1 tonight from a German Cup.
Couldn’t stop Erling Haaland scoring a goal (penalty), no team able to manage that these days. Big win for a second tier club.
18 of us got the exact score on the Dons: Sevco game and a further 6 had a 2:2 draw.
To round off a nice wee birthday period.I have managed to win this round in the Superbru competition with a score of 11.5 (2 exact scores and 3 forecasts- only got the United:St. Mirren game wrong). In joint second with 10.5 are Big Archie and Magnificentseven.
There was a 4 way tie for bottom spot with 1 point (Chalmersbhoy, Scaniel and wee BGFC but the wooden spoon went to Craig 76).
In the overall competition, Call me gerry remains top but Big Archie is only 1.5 points behind with Hopeful Hoops in 3rd. One good week has moved me up to 6th overall but the Top 5 have a healthy gap.
We have 3 at the bottom who have not predicted regularly, so the overall wooden spoon is with Majestic Hartson (who is tied with Chalmersbhoy).
The next prediction is due for Tuesday 25th and Wednesday 26th January
CORKCELT on 18TH JANUARY 2022 10:33 PM
Never knew till recently that St, Mirren are named after an Irish Catholic Monk.
Every day is a school day.
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The Mirin statue in Paisley is a lovely thing, outside the chapel, and I think most representative of a holy man from the dark ages.
that gaelic celtic church evangelism of its time is worth a google.
columba, mirren, conval, barra, patrick himself
Well- they blinked first in 2022
CELTIC40ME @ 11:43 PM,
Good part of London – I lived in Muswell Hill for a bit.
I have several friends who are Spurs supporters, only one Jewish and he’s not really into football – a cultural connection.
Still I believe they are still looked on as being “owned” by the Jewish Community.
As you live among it you may see it as being less complex situation within that community, as folk there tend to live and let live that’s probably the case.
You have communities but not a sectarian divide as such.
Yet I would argue its not a simple issue to resolve and I was looking at it from the perspective of widening the debate.
For me many Celtic supporters can’t see the wood for the trees when it comes to sectarianism so getting context is difficult.
Maybe by bringing in so many aspects it just confused the issue.
Yet you can see when folk are bringing in Flower of Scotland, which is not a sectarian song, or the Edinburgh, Glasgow rivalry, that doesn’t have a sectarian divide then it is obvious, that although they may feel they are experts in such matters, they don’t understand sectarianism very much at all.
Should the songs and chants be heard at Celtic Park is one aspect, if you’ll sing them at a gig but not at Paradise are you a hypocrite is a point.
But the, they are sectarian and we are not, self righteous brigade, who will condemn other forms of discrimination, that’s a different ball game.
Give me an upfront hate filled bigot any day of the week:)
Hail Hail
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finbar_of_Cork
corkcelt,
barra
CCV please sign on the Permanent dotted line. An incredible Signing He’d be.
Fingers crossed.
Super PLAYER.
Chairbhoy
I think you do us an injustice. We re-educated ourselves pretty quickly on this issue when the OBaF Act came in, an Illiberal Act seeking, it thought or said it was so, to make Hate Speech less widely used.
The danger with your argument of “You don’t get to decide!” is that the corrolary leaves you open to having all your utterances dictated to you. In seeking to avoud giving offen ce you leave yourself open to being closed down every time someone tells you they are offended.
The use of the word Hun is a case in point. Used by both fans against each other and chanted at fans of other Scottish teams too, it stuck and lasted with the Ibrox club long after it had stopped being chanted against us. For a time it even came to be accepted and owned by them as the following article by Robin McKie, Science Editor of the Observor stated back in the day:-
“They say Tierra del Fuego is pleasant at the moment – as are Ulan Bator, Antarctica, Pitcairn Island, Mount Everest and the Galapagos archipelago. I know because I checked them all out last week.
Then I remembered hearing about Boulby, in Yorkshire: the home of Britain’s Underground Laboratory for Dark Matter Research (honestly). And I knew straight away where I would be heading this week – for the Boulby laboratory has been built in an old mine where delicate instruments, stored deep underground, monitor rare cosmic particles in an atmosphere of blessed silence and complete darkness.
For a hun – a Rangers fan – it is this week’s dream location, a sanctuary where there might actually be a chance of escaping the gibbering hordes of sombrero-hatted, chanting, triumphalist, banner-waving green-and-white bedecked Celtic-supporting lunatics who have been wrecking my life and driving me mad ever since their team limped past Boavista last month and slinked their way into the Uefa Cup final. Cash-strapped boffins could make a fortune for British science by renting out that mine to equally desperate Rangers fans, I reckon.
Certainly, putting several thousand feet of rock between ourselves and the tims – Celtic fans – would seem to be our only hope of surviving the next few days without developing serious stress or mental illness. For, if nothing else, it would at least mean there would be no more rhyming text messages such as, ‘You watching The Bill , while we’re in Seville’; no more emails suggesting that Rangers change their sponsors to Tampax because the club are going through a bad period; no more jokes about my team and three-pin plugs both being useless in Europe; and no more faxes filled with crap doggerel:
Tell all the huns that you know,
That we’re sorry they’re feeling so low
Cause we don’t mean to tease,
But it’s 90 degrees
And the San Miguel is starting to flow
It’s that kind of stuff – ‘You’ll be in chip shops, while we’re in our flip-flops’ – that makes me want to choke someone, though I admit I may be a bit biased. There’s not much love lost between a hun and a tim, after all.
At first, I didn’t care that much about the prospect of Celtic winning the Uefa Cup on Wednesday, for their victory would raise all Scottish teams’ rankings with European football’s governing body and make it easier for Rangers to qualify for Europe.
On the other hand, I was also aware that if Porto let us down, and Celtic fluked it, it would just trigger more outpourings of those ‘You’ll be cursing and minging, while we’re cheering and singing’ emails that keep making my computer crash. (One of my ‘correspondents’, a very amiable Celtic-supporting cabbie, is unfortunately called Martin O’Neill. Imagine a good Protestant like me finding a name like that in his inbox. It’s like getting a cheque from Saddam Hussein.)
But in the past few days, things have changed. I have begun to suffer increasingly frequent bouts of unsettling déjà vu and midnight terrors. I started going to Ibrox as a fledgling hun just as Jock Stein gave notice of his greatness at Parkhead in 1967 when he took his team of local lads to Lisbon and an historic European Cup final victory over Inter Milan. He followed this up by winning nine consecutive Scottish league titles, while inflicting a series of grievous drubbings of Rangers. Easily the worst was the 1969 Cup final when we were 3-0 down at half-time and so outplayed it still makes me flinch to think about it. My mate Hugh draped his arm round me as I sobbed on the terracing. ‘We’ll get three quick goals. It’ll be all right,’ he kept saying. Amazingly, I never hit him.
Since then, Rangers – under Graeme Souness and Walter Smith – have had their day, achieving their own nine-in-a-row series of titles. But that was then, this is now. Celtic have the real Martin O’Neill, and that ghastly, brilliant man has all the look of a latter-day Stein. And that is why I am so afraid. A European victory early in his reign at Celtic, just like Stein’s at Lisbon, could be a trigger for horrible things to come. Being a particle physicist in a Tierra del Fuegan mine would have a sudden, unexpected appeal.
Robin McKie, The Observer’s science editor, has supported Rangers since 1961. ”
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At some point- post McKie’s article, some in the Ibrox support made their own definition of what a Hun was i.e. a derogatory term used against a PROTESTANT. It wasn’t a usage that we were familiar with nor one with which we agreed. Many of us thought that some Rangers fans were Huns and some fans of other clubs were Huns too, regardless of their religion. We also thought that the likes of Willie Henderson and Jim Baxter were not Huns even though they had played for The Huns. We even called some of our own GreenHuns.
So, if we stopped calling anyone Huns tomorrow, would the Ibrox Word Re-definers be happy? Or would they seek to declare ever more expressions as “sectarian” (the most loosely and inaccurately defined term since holistic). Bluenoses are out if you hand over the definition of offence to them, Zombies too. You have to call them something neutral or nice or they’ll cry sectarian.
it’s a lot more complex than racist slurs. Pakistani- British or vice versa can be an accurate definition of origin for a person just as Scots-Irish would be for me. The P word, if not shortened need not be used offensively but that is not an option for the N word. Some Celts and Irish people take ofence at being called Fenians; others take the badge with pride. I have never been offended by that F word – it is usually the paired noun that goes with it that I find offensive.
The one thing you got right is that it is a complex issue. It should not start with the viewpoint that you are exposing us to some outside truth on the way others see it.
Rivalries abound across religious divides, ethnic divides, political divides, private and public sectors, rich and poor, North and South and East and West, even between blocks of houses where gang divisions thrive.
Not all rivalries are sectarian. Not all divisions are unhealthy. Above all, you have to make a stand for the right to ascribe your own long held meaning to words. For the rest of the world, the word Presently has come to mean the same as currently but I’ll continue to use it as it was intended.
Someone has the right to inform me that they find my words or phrases ofensive but they do not have the right to tell me that it means or meant something other than I, as its user, intended it to mean. I think Alice in Wonderland dealt with that issue well