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The largest impediment to Celtic building up a sustainable run of form is the incessant games players are faced with.  They will have competed in 14 European games by mid-December, with only Newco in Scotland doing anything similar.  Uniquely here for Celtic players, the demands of international football mean that these breaks are often more onerous, not less – ask Tom Rogic.

Scott Brown has retired from the international game but the rest of the first choice regulars are busy every international break. Of the more fringe players, Jozo Simunovic’s vacillations between Croatia and Bosnia have left him with time to rest those knees, while Scott Sinclair only represented England at youth level.

I’m not sure what work Leigh Griffiths needs to do on his fitness but hard training sessions are not permitted during spells when the team is playing seven or eight games per month.  Dropping out of the Scotland setup will allow Leigh a full week of endurance and cardio work, his first since preseason, instead of being untaxed as a squad player for Alex McLeish’s Scotland side.

Leigh has nothing to prove at international level but at 28, he knows the most important thing in his professional life is to continue scoring goals for Celtic.  International retirement would be no hardship.

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  1. Saint Stivs on

    ta Phil, this convalescing means i can look at celticwiki, and kerrydale street and pass the time with celtic things,

     

    it aint all bad.

  3. fan-a-tic on

    What did we expect when the sfa picked a D.O.B. and serial failure as the manager?

     

    McFadden playing the willing sidekick souptaker role.

     

    Neither of these dinosaurs should be anywhere need the modern football environment.

     

    Wonder if the rumours of Hampden being the location of the next Jurassic park movie?

     

    Think it’s time for Celtic to call out the sfa for their attacks on our player.

  5. mike in toronto on

    Not sure I agree with P67’s article (perhaps I am misunderstanding his point)

     

     

    Is he suggesting that it is good for LG to retire from internationals, or for all Celtic players?

     

     

    If we want to attract good quality players, they will be anxious to play for their country … Euro Championships or World Cup. And that is likelyl the standard of player we need, if we are to make any sort of mark in Euorpe.

     

     

    I think I read that KT had played more games than anyone in Europe. I suspect that is, in part, because Celtic has played more games (cup runs, plus euro games, in addition to a full league slate).

     

     

    There isn’t a lot Celtic can do about the number of games (win more… raise the ranking will help, but a lot more needs to happen), so we have to get used to playing a lot of games …so, squad management becomes more and more important. KT needs to be rested, rotated … but that means we need to have someone that we trust to come in and fill in for him.

  7. glendalystonsils on

    SAINT STIVS on 9TH OCTOBER 2018 1:48 PM

     

    one for the north american celts

     

     

    1970 tour game in toronto.

     

     

    I remember my brother and I peeing ourselves at some of the American reports on those games.

     

     

    Harry Hood scoring was described as “Hal Hood boomed one high in the cage”.

  8. fan-a-tic on

    MIT

     

    I think he means from the pathetic Scotland set up.

     

    Guys like Boyata have shown how playing in the right environment can make a difference.

     

    What can be learned from playing in a team whose style has not been seen since players nailed their studs to the boots?

     

    Our players train in a modern coaching environment with quality international players.

     

    Robertson apart can you say the same at the Scotland camp?

     

    There is nothing to be gained as whipping boys against even average teams.

     

    Good habits are coached into players but bad habits can also be and McLeish and MacFadden have shown by results and performances so far that they offer nothing but negative.

     

    With those two dumplings in charge i would not want any of our players near the Scotland squad.

  9. Hoople on

    St. Stivs

     

     

    That tackler on Jinky looks a bit like Jimmy Briggs of Dundee United, and they used to play in black and white.

  11. Park Road 67 on

    LEFTCLICKTIC

     

    Great news about wee Daniel !

     

    Like a few others on here I wish all Celtic players would withdraw from big ba heid’s Scotland team , only in Scotland would he get the gig as national team manager , listened to shortbread last night McIntyre is a dyed in the wool hun !!

  13. weebobbycollins on

    As regards Kenny McIntyre, love him or hate him, he is not a ‘dyed in the wool hun’…his father would never have allowed it…

  14. 100 trophyies on

    LEFTCLICKTIC on 9TH OCTOBER 2018 12:59 PM

     

    Daughter just off phone Daniel Bhoy on way back to recovery room :)))))))))))))))))

     

    GOD bless wee Daniel,

     

    Hail hail,

     

    C’mon the hoops,

     

    ???

  19. Auldheid on

    I posted this on SFM to explain the principle behind the ten points deduction and the question it raises. Normally I wouldn’t bother but its always quiet on CQN and some might want to read.

     

     

     

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    I came across this article today when trying to explain the genesis of the points deduction for going into administration.

     

     

    The author makes a case for removing the rule now because it is not the deterrent it was intended at the time and HMRC now keep a closer eye on clubs defaulting on PAYE.

     

     

    https://www.clarkhowes.com/blog/points-deduction-for-football-clubs-going-into-administration-who-pays-the-price

     

     

    However it got me thinking.

     

     

    We all know by now that the wee tax case calculation of tax owed was based on PAYE terms on the basis that the ebts used were designed to underpay HMRC what they were owed in 2000/2001/2002.

     

    So if non payment of PAYE is deemed to have offered clubs an unfair advantage to such an extent that it was recognised in 2003 a ten points deduction was merited to offset that sporting advantage, then why was that principle not taken into account by Lord Nimmo Smith nor indeed the SFA/SPFL in his commissioning?

     

    Now I’m not sure when the SFA/SPFL introduced the points deduction for administration rule but when they did they must surely have recognised the underlying principle because they applied the rule in 2012 when RFC entered administration and deducted them 10 points for doing so and of course non payment of PAYE was one of the reasons administration became necessary.

     

     

    I appreciate that at the time LNS ruled that the early DOS ebts were wrongly treated as continuous with the BTC ebts and in any case preceded for the most part the date the points deduction rule was introduced, but after the Supreme Court ruled that RFC owed tax on the BTC ebts, as long as the tax owed was based on the same PAYE principles as a tax on wages then why was a ten points deduction not applied to each of the seasons the rule was in place in Scotland?

     

     

    It is the logical outcome of applying the principle that introduced the points deduction rule in the first place.

     

    Now if someone can be bothered to establish when the rule was introduced in Scotland and apply a ten points deduction to RFC we might get an idea of the cost to other clubs through those years in terms of prize money lost due to lower league placing.

     

     

    We might then get a greater appreciation of why the SFA/SPFL do not want to go there, who would pay compensation to whom?

     

     

    Ach its international week. Nothing else happening. Go on go on.

  21. call me Gerry on

    I feel I am in the small minority who are supporting Scotland and hope they win v Israel.

     

     

    I certainly don’t agree with Paul67’s desire to see Griffiths retire, at 28, from international scene.

  22. KINGLUBO on

    When i think of how much Scottish football does for my beloved Celtic, we all know how much that is, don’t we?

     

    I would much prefer if ALL our players withdrew, stating clearly the reasons why, and Celtic should back them up totally saying until such times as we get an even playing field, no Celtic players will be allowed to play for Scotland, end of!!!

     

    Will they, I hae ma doubts.

     

     

    KINGLuBO

  24. call me Gerry on

    King Lubo @ 4.33

     

     

    I’m trying to understand your rationale. You want Celtic to issue a statement, to back up the withdrawal of all Celtic players from the Scotland squad.

     

    What words EXACTLY should this statement contain? (I think “we want a level playing field” would be insufficient)

     

     

    HH

  26. David66 on

    Leftclicktic great news about the wee fella.

     

     

    I wish him a speedy recovery ?

     

     

    Hail Hail

     

     

    D. :)

  27. David66 on

    I just wish all our players would pull out of the Scotland set up, it’s never going to happen right enough.

     

    Tax cheats managing the International team.

     

    Cheats and liars in charge at SFA and SPFL

     

    Life time ban players back in before good honest professionals

     

     

    You could go on and on and on.

     

     

    Hail Hail

     

     

    D. :)

  29. Delaneys Dunky on

    Leftclick

     

    Both my son’s went through serious operations as babies for the same genetic condition. Both ops were 100% successful and they are healthy adults now.

     

    God bless Daniel.

     

    YNWA

  32. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    Celtic could say that they have a duty of care to their employees and this is not being served under the present SFA Administration.

     

    Of course they won’t as FIFA would drop on them from a great height.

  33. moravcik on

    Call me Gerry

     

     

    Never saw you post on here before, and you appear today to support the SFA !!

     

     

    Are you a hun ?

  35. GlassTwoThirdsFull on

    McFadden may be a very good coach, but it’s hard to imagine that his perceived popularity with the “tartan army” wasn’t considered. The polish for the turd.

  36. Fred Colon on

    Leftclick

     

     

    Cuddles coming at wee Daniel .

     

     

    I hope the wee fella gets well soon .

  38. GreeninbingleyinOslo on

    I used to follow Scotland. I used to hope they won every game they played.

     

     

    This despite knowing that there had been many decades of anti-Celtic bias in the Scottish team selection, emphatically underlined by the boos from the support when any Celtic man who WAS selected touched the ball.

     

     

    My mother and father were Irish – Dublin and Donegal respectively – and, rightly or wrongly, they tried to instil into me the point that I was born in Glasgow, so I’m Scottish, and so I should BE Scottish.

     

     

    I am sure they did this as caring parents in the hope that, by bringing me up as Scottish, I would avoid the worst of the discrimination that they suffered.

     

     

    My ma was clever, and in another era could have gone to university, but what chance of that for a working-class Irish Catholic woman in Glasgow in the late 1940s?

     

     

    Some on here might call their attitude soup-taking; I don’t.

     

     

    Me and my brother and sisters were always very aware of where we came from, and some of the happiest memories I have of my ma spring from family hoolies in Drumchapel, Clydebank and Dalmuir – and Ballybrack and Killybegs – when my old fella would get the fiddle or accordion out and she would sing Only the Rivers Run Free before the whole lot of us would crack through the songbook.

     

     

    I thought back then, and this is 40-odd years ago, that it might be possible to be both Irish by descent and Scottish by birth, and this is the circle I’ve spent most of my adult life trying to square. That was the reason behind our name, after all. Not ‘Glasgow Hibernians’, but ‘Celtic’.

     

     

    In 2012, when the club of the Scottish Establishment was revealed at long last to be a criminal band of smug liars, cheats and thieves, I thanked God that I was alive to witness it. It felt to me like the end of Apartheid, and a new beginning.

     

     

    The last 6 years have been dismaying. About the only positive to be drawn from it is that Establishment Scotland’s stop-at-nothing buttressing of its footballing wing, built on institutionalised hatred, racism and sectarianism, has now emerged from the shadows and is now in the open.

     

     

    But that will make no difference in Scotland, because nobody cared. Including, tragically, Celtic PLC.

     

     

    Scotland needs a strong Rangers, under any circumstances. And strong Rangers men in positions of power.

     

     

    And that’s why Scotland – outside of Scotland – has become more of a figure of scorn and pity than North Korea, and why Celtic should find a league elsewhere, anywhere; and why Leigh Griffiths and every other Celtic team-mate should withdraw permanently from representing this ludicrous banana republic.

  41. Parkheadcumsalford on

    THOMTHETIM,

     

     

    Sadly, you are only too right. Celtic are on a hiding to nothing, where the SFA is concerned. FIFA will back the SFA, either having no idea how we are regarded in this country or not caring. Maybe Celtic could suggest to the likes of Tierney and McGregor that they do a “Griffiths” and see how the SFA react. An organisation that can blithely bring back someone who had been rightly banned for life says it all about them and where their true loyalties lie; never mind the appointment of a manager who has been an embarassment.

  42. call me Gerry on

    Moravcik @ 6.09

     

     

    I’m aware that newbies do get asked the question in a gentle rubbing kinda way – though your grammar suggests you are serious in your enquiry. So I will answer – I am most definitely a bhoy.

     

     

    Bateen Bhoy, of this parish, can testify – as he shared the train journey with myself, my wife, and my son from Lisbon out to Estádio Nacional on 25th May 2017. In fact, it was thanks to Bateen Bhoy that we skipped the queue at the train station (thanks again BB)

     

     

    I joined CQN more years ago than I care to remember. I would definitely class myself as a lurker, who seldom posts. So I can understand you being unaware of my existence.

     

     

    In my post, I stated my support of Scotland (the team), and my desire to see Griffiths remain part of the squad.

     

    Where did I state my support of the SFA?

     

     

    HH

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