There has been an enormous amount of guff said and written during the last five months but last night’s statement by Inverness Caledonian Thistle chairman, Kenny Cameron, is surely is up there with the most bizarre.
“All clubs will now have to live with the repercussions of this decision. Scottish football was at a cross roads today in terms of what was on the table for all clubs regarding reorganisation, financial distribution and a road map that would have taken the game forward.
“But this has now been thrown in to disarray by this decision. This is a sad day for all clubs in Scotland.
“Certain clubs in the SFL have perceived the financial information they were receiving as a ‘big stick’ to beat them into accepting Newco in the First Division. This was definitely not the case, as far as I am concerned. What they were being told was the reality of the situation.
“We will be convening an emergency board meeting over the weekend to discuss the very serious financial implications for us as a club going forward.”
Instead of explaining to the people of Inverness that buying season tickets will prevent the club making non-football staff redundant he seems to be preparing the ground for significant cutbacks.
This is the reality for every club in the SPL and several in the SFL. Fans, including Inverness fans, demanded that a sporting element was retained in their game. Now they’ve gotten their way, Inverness and the rest should be putting out the clarion call for fans to buy tickets.
As football fans, this is our responsibility. 35 out of 42 clubs voted to reject Sevco into anything other than the bottom level of Scottish football. Now we must step forward.
P.S. You don’t really need me to tell you, but buy a season ticket now!
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Whers Og? Whers wee Declan? Wee Dec? might be 6ft 14″ for all I know!! >:o):)
wee chico really does sound like a broken man
Doncaster is going to have another go at the SPL meeting on Monday – D1 football for “Rangers” in a two-tier SPL breakaway.
Afternoon Bhoys!
Stuck in work….bored.
Wee question, is it wrong for a 29 year old to buy a full home kit lol
I did and i don’t care. joined the wee lady up to the young hoops as well.
Have to laugh as as I hear much trumpeting in the MSM about Sevco possibly getting invited into the SPL on Monday.
I am totally relaxed.
Looking back at the entire farce have the MSM called ANYTHING about this shambles of an affair correctly?
Exactly. Now you can see I am totally chilled. They are gone!
OG
that was only to be expected..
he should resign now…. the SFL should seek it now..
This story is about Glasgow Celtic (it always has been).
To Paul67
Firstly, some posts refer to green huns, the bottom line is this; if that Sevco is given preferential treatment, should we turn the other cheek and turn out in great numbers to support a corrupt sport, season ticket sales at any cost?
My own view is that I would prefer to sacrifice the excitement of a derby game once and for all just to see the dismantling of the ‘us and them’ culture, more so the fixation with Ulster.
Sevco is entitled to play their football at the lowest level possible even below division 3.
I see that as a means to improve Scottish society (Ian Archer may well have agreed).
Given the latest ‘twist’, as reported in the Sun this morning (underhand deals to keep Sevco from division 3) The monkeys in suits have absolutely no desire to implement the vote of the 42 clubs. It is highly likely that a manoeuvre of some sort shall save Sevco from division 3.
From day one, the only factor in all of this is of course BOXOFFICE MONEY; the only show in town being (dare I say) the ‘OLD FIRM’?
Whether we like it or not, everyone outside the Celtic family still refer to them as r@angers; and don’t kid ourselves, if or when we play Sevco, apart from a few choruses ‘who are you’, will we really treat them any differently?
When it comes down to walking away from any partnership; tough decisions are needed, the final decision being that of one or both of the involved partners. THE Glasgow Derby has been recognised as being a partnership by most for over a century. There is now only one side of ‘the derby’ that can influence Murdoch and the rest.
Do you really think that any of the ‘suits’ at Celtic Park will volunteer to come forward and literally separate us from them? As per usual the fans are pawns and emotionally blackmailed by their own allegiance. Ultimately, if that Scottish football is betrayed by the SFA/SPL, the board at Celtic Park has a pivotal role in all of this and need to realise the strength of feeling by our supporters will not wane any time soon.
If Sevco/rt@angers is saved from division 3 for financial reasons, where does the majority of that finance come from? (It aint Murdoch’s SKY).
It that the ‘OF’ is dead; lets hear it from Celtic Park, do not hold back Mr Lawwell.
Integrity has a price. Bluntly speaking; the Celtic board should be calling for express delivery of two ‘mutton heads’ from the SFA/SPL offices at Hampden
Either we play our part in arriving at the correct decision in all of this, or we sit back and make childish noises in the background. Don’t dare complain when the milk is spilt, the fat cats will lap it up.
Money talks? Empty promises = empty seats. IT’S OUR DECISION – MAKE IT KNOWN RIGHT NOW!
Green hun, blue Monday?
Over to you Peter. Silence is golden?
Chico young is hurting bigtime???
Don’t worry ya wee runt !
There is still 2weeks for your beloved saints to sign somebody!
Paul, 100% agree with your comments. In addition, the executives of the SPL should have been knocking head together to identify how additional revenues can be obtained. A proper marketing plan for the whole league should be at the top of the agenda. For example the clubs cooperating to build and market away package season books could increase attendances. Blanket child price across all clubs.
The SPL is a constrained market place, surely they need to start acting together to generate more revenues than would have been the case with Rangers in the league. I suspect that there will be lots of people hoping that the SPL fails.
Just think, we could have had Gordon Smith as SFA CEO, Walter Smith as the Scotland manager, Campbell Ogilvie as President of the SFA, Hugh Dallas as Head of Referees & Jim Ballantyne as President of the SFL.
Oh hang on didn’t we have that?
But just remember you are all just paranoid Tims, every single one of you.
HH
bigngreen…..I am Neil Lennon on 14 July, 2012 at 13:49 said:
THAT is the best post I have EVER read ………….With supporters like you CELTIC will NEVER walk alone …….. THANK YOU !!!!!!
SFL Clubs: Scapegoats for fiscal profligacy within the SPL since 2012
A good read
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/iar7nl
Watched smudgerr earlier on ssn saying —– fans might do this and could do that re away games. Im sure might and could were nearly replaced by SHOULD a few times!!!
blantyretim, 14:39
It will be the end for Doncaster and Regan. Alex Thomson is going to publish the email in full tomorrow
12000 at the friendly Dundee derby !
It’s a beautiful morning with no orcs at the top table !!!!
So if dundee can get 8000 Dundee fans and 4000 utd fans twice a season
Does that make up for 2000 dundee and 7000 Orc fans visiting …. Twice a season???
So if Inverness get full houses v Ross county twice a season …
Does that mean they can stop pressing their panic button
Dungcaster, Regan, Longmuir and the rest must answer one question first:
Show us the evidence that Sevco Scotland Ltd (NOT rangers) are a viable club.
Regardless of what division you think they should be in, show us the evidence, actual authenticated EVIDENCE that they are a viable business.
Till later Bhoys ansGhirls
http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/league-gentlemen-rangers/2301
Off down to Langloan to see the if the washins dry yet!!
HaiL HaiL
Raymilland …… As usual, the MSM are talking shoite……. The SFA need to re-address the punishments……sevco will not be playing in any league this season….
http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/league-gentlemen-rangers/2301
What is the Stars on 14 July, 2012 at 14:28 said:
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Aye….the Berlin Noir novels are well written,full of insight.
William Boyd is one helluva writer,too. I’d recommend anything by him.
Iain M. Banks’ ‘Transition’ is a brilliant thriller.
All good stuff for a holiday read or travelling distraction.
HH!
OG Rafferty
How many times has it been predicted that Regan and Doncaster will resign they wont they need to be instantly dismissed for their handling of this, they are colluding and concocting plans to keep the cheats in business, dressing this up as best for the game, they have got this totally wrong and Regan refuses to deal with dual contracts situation and the Disciplinary issues. Why?
http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/league-gentlemen-rangers/2301
I am now beginning to feel my work may soon be scaling down on the “Rangers” saga, but first something which needs to be highlighted as events move towards Monday’s Premier League meeting.
Today – the Word of Clyde, representative as it is of where most clubs and most fans now are.
As Channel 4 News reported last night, what really happened at Hampden was rather different from the spin the Football League Club Chairmen were forced to mouth to the cameras last night.
We now know – thanks to the ever-robust Clyde FC – that “Rangers” owner Charles Green only spoke candidly to the club chairmen yesterday on condition that they didn’t tell you what he said.
This is a shabby deal, as clearly many Chairmen recognise, which is why several leaked what Green said to me yards from the front steps of Hampden Park.
We know Green said the Scottish Football Association boss Stewart Regan had told him there is no way “Rangers” will be in D3 next season.
Here’s Clyde FC’s view from late yesterday which corroborates and adds to our story last night and needs quoting at length:
“We reported this morning prior to the vote of all clubs that ‘Sevco Scotland Ltd will not be playing in the Third Division in the coming season’. Nothing heard today altered that opinion, in fact, it strengthened it.
“For the good of the game we need to see the SFA accept the will of its members, who all voted today, as members of the SFL, in the clear knowledge that the SFA had it in its power to refuse to transfer SFA membership to Sevco Scotland Ltd should the vote support the entry of Sevco Scotland Ltd into SFL3.
“We were asked to respect the confidentiality of those presenting today as only that agreement would allow them to be as candid as they were. We cannot therefore share what was said, however Mr Green left the SFL member clubs in no doubt about what he had been told by the SFA.The SFL saw a level of unity and unselfishness that owes significant credit to the First Division clubs who stated their intention to seek a 42 club solution and not to take part in a divisive alternative.
“This kind of unity, if maintained, will help deliver the change that the game so badly needs and the First Division clubs in particular will merit. If the SFA now act to support any process to undermine the clear views of the SFL members, who are also members of the SFA, then this club will join others in questioning those in leadership.
“Sadly for our game, this saga is not over, teams cannot plan and that includes Rangers, who may yet be denied the opportunity to play football in SFL3 because it suits the interests of others.”
So proof again that Clyde – like many clubs – trust the FA as far as they could throw it.
Proof that a shameful attempt to gag the Chairmen into secrecy was the price for simple honesty and candour about what’s really going on. What has Scottish football come to for this nonsense to be countenanced at all?
Some positives too: the SFL with these doughty Gentlemen of Annan, Clyde, Raith, Livingston and many more cannot be bought off for short-term financial myopia. These Gentlemen understand value – not just price.
And now the SFL holds a better hand as a result, than at any time in the crisis the SPL and SFA have shamefully allowed to spread.
All they need is steady nerve and there’s plenty of that in evidence in their statements.
They know well that all the signs indicate SPL boss Neil Doncaster is going to have another go at the SPL meeting on Monday, at ignoring the vote and attempting D1 football for “Rangers” in a two-tier SPL breakaway.
The SFA statement last night at last recognises the word “opportunity” exists in the language and oppo time this most certainly is.
The issue is, if they are finally just beginning to get what this is all about and what the Chairmen are saying, will they really abandon all attempts to railroad the club into D1 in the face of comprehensive opposition? Or will they overtly or covertly assist the SPL if it really is minded to have another go next week.
I sense it is still possible, even at this hour. I also sense that any attempt to do this – and it is surely doomed – must absolutely spell the end for the leadership of SPL and SFA which has steered the game to this grisly, trust-free confrontation.
The warning to Mr Doncaster and Mr Regan’s right there in black and white from Clyde. Look again in that last paragraph where the Gentlemen of Clyde line up their tank- sights on Hampden Park.
“This club will join others in questioning those in leadership” say Clyde. I say that means: “Try anything that ignores our vote on Monday and we’re heading towards a vote of no confidence.”
The Gentlemen of the League have spoken. The bosses of the game must heed their words.
Paul67
Is he not just preparing the ground for SPL 2 ?
TT
Miki
Yes I like William Boyd,Ordinary Thunderstorms was good,wasnt too impressed by his latest offering though
OG
thats how I read the SFL statement yesterday, they said to listen to all clubs…
seems as though that has been ignored..
Seems pretty clear to me that Regan and Doomcaster have been fully aware that their “careers” in Scottish football maladministration would be brought to an abrupt end during this fiasco.
So what is their motivation to stomp all over the wishes of the majority of Scottish football clubs and their supports in support of a hun zombie fc. (yet to be formed)?
The irony is that it looks like CO will retain his position after these two are gone, as he feels he need answer to no one.
BTW……it’s thanks to you peeps on here that we re-negotiated our Virgin deal,and got,because of being long-standing customers,a much better deal for less than we were paying. Better broadband service and a ‘Tivo’ box….lots of fun stuff of the ‘bread & circuses’ variety.
I’m not advertising Virgin….it’s just the way we went years ago.
So…..thanks to you lot…..again!
HH!
Mullet heed ” thers so much money going out the game” Rapid V for a start??
Scramble Ogilvie.
Stuart “last call” McCall. Get it right roon ye.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DQSDaNIdmV-Y&v=QSDaNIdmV-Y&gl=US
Maybe when all of their players are playing with other clubs in the new season….
Maybe when there is no one playing football out of Ibrox in the new season…
They will grasp the reality of the situation.
They are an ex-football club.
What is the Stars on 14 July, 2012 at 14:51 said:
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‘Waiting for Sunrise’….not so good? Shame,I was looking forward to that!
:- (
With talk of stich-ups, ‘arrangements’, boycotts and the underlying menace emanating from sevco, the msm and soapy soutar, Ceelo reminds me of the guy who joins a group in the pub and when it eventually comes to his round, picks a fight with the bar staff and gets papped out.Sevco couldn’t survive a year without footie, in fact with bare running costs of £2.5M per month,they can’t survive in Div 3.
Ceelo has an asset sale splits with CW and sashays his sorry can back t’moors.
Follow the money!
According to the sun ‘newspaper’, as quoted on the BBC Scotland Sport website, SPL chiefs are to have talks with SKY regarding the TV deal in light of the decision by the SFL clubs on Friday. No doubt from the perpsective thaty SKY will want out or pay a reduced amount.
Well, lets look at some facts in all this.
The majority of SPL clubs voted the way they did because their fans told them, in an unprecidented manner that they would not be back if huns were allowed into SPL.
The SPL and SFA keep harping on about ‘armaggedon’ if huns go to D3 due to SKY pulling out.
Well instead of SPL/SFA bemoaning the loss of the huns, why do they not turn this into a positive when meeting SKY.
Quite simply say they can guarantee ( through the representation of fans received by them and member clubs and the unity and strength of feelings of fans), that if SKY in any way pull out of the proposed deal in the next 5 years, that en mass, at least 100,000 Scottish football supporters, from all clubs, will cancel their SKY deals and go with Virgin, BT or one of the myriad of new competitors out there.
I pay approx. £80 a month. £80 x 100,000 = £8M loss a month to SKY.
My numbers and arithmatic may be out, but the SFA/ SPL should be using the unity and strength of feeling of all football fans in Scotland to their advantage.
(incidently I calculate that approx. 700,000 households in Scotland have SKY)
I know there has been an attempt in recent weeks for guys on here to cancel SKY, but this will only work if the threat is backed by as many people and fans as possible.
miki
glad you got the loyalty discount… thinking about uprading to tivo..
did you pay for installation and is it worth it..?
“punishment”
Have you ever heard a more misused word in the last few days.
there has been ZERO punishment dished out