Jock, Martin, Gordon and Neil

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You remember Celtic manager, Gordon Stachan, third manager in our history to win three-in-a-row?  Took us to the Champions League knock out stages for the first time, did much of this while comparative economics were moving against us, remember him?  Is he the same Gordon Strachan who has transformed the Scotland national team’s results?

Gordon is unequivocally a successful manager but his Scotland team is performing far better than I thought possible when he took over what looked like a poisoned chalice.  The most stunning fact of his record there is that they have not conceded a goal in three successive away games.  Gordon’s Celtic covered 15 months, across two championship winning seasons, without keeping a single clean sheet away from home, no matter how lowly or distressed the opponent.  Even good, experienced, managers learn, especially from their earlier troubles.

Jock Stein is viewed mostly through the prism of 1967 but during his final season as Celtic manager, 1977-78, the sentiment among many in the support was decidedly downbeat.  Rangers (remember them, played in blue, I think?) would win their third title in four seasons, with two trebles thrown in for good measure.  Celtic finished fifth in the league, Jock’s judgement was widely called into question.

At the time Leeds United were a top club in England and after Celtic sacked Jock they moved to secure him.  Leeds had no doubts as to his abilities.  A little over a month later the SFA offered him the Scotland job, which he took and excelled at, twice succeeding in World Cup qualifying campaigns.  His talents were without question but stood in sharp contrast to how many in the support viewed him a few years earlier.

I don’t know if Jock was a better manager in 1982 and beyond than he was in 1978 but there’s a decent chance his football education didn’t stop when the trophies dried up at Celtic.  Gordon Strachan is, like Jock was until the end, a student of the game.  Neil Lennon is too, he is also receiving some of the reviews his illustrious predecessors would recognise. Gordon was an excellent Celtic manager but he’s better now, perhaps as a result of life’s experiences along the way.

It’ll be really interesting to see how Euro qualifiers reflect on the comparative progress of Gordon and Martin O’Neill, who for my money was a better manager than Mourinho when the latter deployed some of the best players in the world against Celtic in Seville, and needed to deploy every underhand trick in the book to come out on top.

I was blown away by the stunning contributions to our Mary’s Meals campaign yesterday.  First in was an incredible £200 + £50 gift aid donation, followed by others, large and small, every one appreciated.  Ignore those who would tell you society is dead.  You can get involved here.

Seville, The Celtic Movement, launches this month.

“Porto were favourites and would go on to prove how good a team they were by winning the Champions League 12 months later. Their players would demonstrate their prowess across the world for the next decade. They had fabulous talent, so much so, that they should have aspired to better than the gamesmanship used during their run to the UEFA Cup and Champions League wins.”

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  1. ....PFayr supports WeeOscar on

    Off today …had some time to study …probably mean I’ll not even manage my customary seconds

     

     

    Here goes

     

     

    1 BROUGHTON

     

     

    2 NEVER ENOUGH TIME

     

     

    3 BRIAR HILL

     

     

    4 SILVINIACO CONTE

     

     

    5 ON THE FRINGE

     

     

    6 ROYAL REGATTA

     

     

    7 CLARET CLOAK

     

     

    good luck bhoys ..great night ahead …enjoy yer day

     

     

    HH

  2. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS .........FC not PLC on

    Today I’m on a daytrip to disaster and in bad/smashing company.

     

     

    Choices are

     

     

    PLINTH

     

     

    DIAKALI

     

     

    CAPTAIN CUTTER

     

     

    SYLVINIACO CONTE

     

     

    THATS RHYTHM

     

     

    RUM AND BUTTER

     

     

    RAYA STAR

     

     

    Didnae look at the prices before I picked them. Might be going e/w once or twice!

     

     

    FLEAGLE1888

     

     

    Thank you so much for your efforts once again,bud.

     

     

    YOU ARE A STAR!!!!!!

  3. ....PFayr supports WeeOscar on

    BMCUWP

     

     

    Have a great day

     

     

    Btw my reply to you was in jest too

     

     

    Whit a pair o fandans we are

     

     

    HH

  4. Day 4’s Selections

     

     

    Guitar Pete

     

    Cinders and Ashes

     

    Briar Hill

     

    Bobs Worth

     

    Oscar Delta

     

    Full Shift

     

    Tanks for that

     

     

    Cheers Fleagle for running the comp and hopefully catch up with some of you bhoys tonight at CQTEN HH

  5. ....PFayr supports WeeOscar on

    Fleagle

     

     

    Forgive my rudeness

     

     

    Many thanks for your efforts this week

     

     

    No doubt I’ll finish second …beat by a short head ….:-))

  6. 1.30-ROYAL IRISH HUSSAR

     

    2.05- ARCTIC FIRE

     

    2.40- KINGS PALACE

     

    3.20-BOBSWORTH

     

    4.00-DIVINE INTERVENTION

     

    4.40- VIEUX LION ROUGE

     

    5.15-COMPETITIVE EDGE

     

    THANKS FLEAGLE

  7. Lads, good luck to all for the final day…

     

     

    BMCUWP – you will have an amazing day, Cheltenham is unbelievable…

     

     

    1.30 Abbyssial

     

    2.05 Cinders & Ashes

     

    2.40 Kings Palace

     

    3.20 Bobsworth

     

    4.00 Tammys Hill

     

    4.40 Vieux Lion Rouge

     

    5.15 Tanks for That

     

     

    6 winners, easy… :o)

     

     

    fleagle1888

  8. tommytwiststommyturns on

    Bobby – have a ball (!) at Cheltenham today and win loads. Try a wee ew on Lord Windermere…he won the RSA last year on similar going!

     

     

    Fleagle – you sir, are a star for sorting this. I’m assuming you won’t be there tonight, so us horsey types will drink a toast to you at CQteN.

     

     

    Haven’t seen one race this week due to feckin work, but just heading home to watch a great days racing. Good luck all and hope to meet some new faces tonight in the Kerrydale.

     

     

    HH

     

    TTTT

  9. Som mes que un club on

    Guitar Pete 1330

     

     

    Never Enough Time 1405

     

     

    Briar Hill 1440

     

     

    Last Installment 1520

     

     

    Oscar Delta 1600

     

     

    The Skyfarmer 1640

     

     

    Eastlake 1715

     

     

    All the best everyone and thanks again to Fleagle1888 for the organisation.

  10. The Token Tim on

    last minute rush due to feckin work getting in the way. Not got a scooby on these.

     

     

    1.30: Royal Irish Hussar

     

    2.05: Cheltenian

     

    2.40: Kings Palace

     

    3.20: Triolo D’Alene

     

    4.00: On the Fringe

     

    4.40: Royal Regatta

     

    5.15: Next Sensation

     

     

    HAIL! HAIL!

     

    Token

  11. whitedoghunch on

    trutherglen

     

    alaivan

     

    captain cutter

     

    Silviniaco Conti

     

    on the fringe

     

    leo luna

     

    ned buntline

  12. tommytwiststommyturns on

    BB – looked like a broken arm. He was lucky it wasn’t worse! Maniacs, the lot of them!!

     

     

    T4

  13. !!Bada Bing!! on

    T4-tough game,McCoy could hardly walk yesterday and still rode a winner.Compound fracture of upper arm for RW.

  14. tommytwiststommyturns on

    BB – puts into perspective these diving primas donnas we see on a football pitch!

     

    You going tonight, big yin?

     

     

    T4

  15. tommytwiststommyturns on

    BB – a right good winner. What a forecast that would have been!

     

    Enjoy the gowf. Catch a beer with you at another CQN sesh.

     

     

    T4

  16. !!Bada Bing!! on

    T4-for sure,i know CQN has only 1 thread,i think a separate one for punters,buying/selling tickets etc could be viable…….oh and one for the Yes/No vote ….:(

  17. tommytwiststommyturns on

    Davy Russell had his whip in his right hand….he must keep the race. Near greeting here, he ran that poorly for 2/3 of the race! What a finish….!

     

     

    T4

  18. Lads,

     

     

    I will be stepping onto a 4 hour light in 10mins, so final updates in the morning…

     

     

    Hope it’s as close as the Gold Cup !!!

     

     

    fleagle1888

  19. TTTT

     

     

    Some tipping mate…….wish the fek I had saw it earlier……hate Cheltenham :O(

  20. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS .........FC not PLC on

    TOMMYTWISTSTOMMYTURNS

     

     

    If I had been able to get a signal on course I’d have put a tenner on each way.

     

     

    That was a marvellous spot. Well done,bud.

     

     

    Personally,got pasted. Heyho…

  21. Lads, final results from Cheltenham…

     

     

    is it any surprise that the bookies are minted, when today’s winners were :

     

     

    10/1, 11/1, 33/1, 20/1, 15/2, 12/1, and 16/1…

     

     

    I guess no-one had the 177,044,867-1 accumulator ???

     

     

    Drum roll…

     

     

    eddieinkirkmichael takes the Cheltenham honours, with Don Poli sealing his victory in the penultimate race… well done Eddie !

     

     

    Hard lines to TTTT who finished second… but was surely financially compensated by finding the biggest priced winner of the week :

     

    Lord Windermere (20/1) in the Gold Cup…

     

     

    It will be no surprise that PFayr finished in the places, overall third – 8 runners-up selections in 4 days, agonizing my friend…

     

     

    Day 4 and Final Leaderboard :

     

     

    eddieinkirkmichael 32.00 138.75

     

    tommytwiststommyturns 33.00 116.00

     

    PFayr 6.00 111.50

     

    Som mes que un club 3.00 100.50

     

    twists n turns 0.00 96.23

     

    Eurochamps67 3.00 94.48

     

    FrankMarker 21.00 94.48

     

    BMCUWP 0.00 90.73

     

    Cathal 8.00 83.98

     

    valentinesday 0.00 76.73

     

    16 Roads – 3IAR 30.00 74.73

     

    fleagle1888 17.50 70.48

     

    Bada Bing 21.00 68.50

     

    green T 8.00 66.23

     

    Sandman 3.00 66.00

     

    The Token Tim 3.00 65.00

     

    MHARK67 26.00 64.50

     

    Hutchybhoy 3.00 59.73

     

    voguepunter 8.00 40.73

     

    Hotel de Paris 0.00 40.50

     

    whitedoghunch 8.00 34.00

     

    LiviBhoy 0.00 25.00

     

    call me Gerry 0.00 10.00

  22. 16 roads - 3-IAR on

    Congratulations and well done Eddieinkirkmichael.

     

     

    I really enjoyed that wee competition.

     

     

    HH.

  23. MHARK67 prayin for OSCAR KNOX on

    Kudos and doffing of cap to Eddieinkirkmichael/TTTT/PFAyr

     

    It certainly Was a bookies festival but the excitement of the gold cup itself was one to remember

     

     

    Again many many thanks go to FLEAGLE for making it a very enjoyable ….if frustrating competition :-)

     

    I just about cleaned my face with three winners but daughter has still got bragging rights with WHISPER AT 22/1 !!! Sigh

  24. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS .........FC not PLC on

    Well,it comes as no surprise that I got a sebo on the last day!

     

     

    Thanks to FLEAGLE 1888 for organising.

     

     

    Away to lick my wounds.

  25. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS .........FC not PLC on

    Bar de Ligne 330k

     

     

    It won’t be carrying my money though as not that confident. Oh,and there’s another reason too.

     

     

    Cheltenham!